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Posted to user@jmeter.apache.org by Rishay Marajah <ri...@consology.com> on 2006/09/18 16:59:15 UTC
Performance Testing (Embedded Resources)
Hi Guys,
Could some explain me the following:
1. What is difference between turning embedded resources on and
off?
2. When I turn embedded resources on certain pages...I get -> "The
pages has temp...moved to"
3. My testing env =
a. Weblogic 8.1 SP4
b. Oracle 9i DB
c. J2EE Application
d. HTTPS protocol
Regards,
Rishay Marajah
QA Developer / Test Analyst / Jmeter Dark Templer
Mobile: +27 84 884 8633
MSN: Rishay@hotmail.com
Direct Line: +27 11 575 1355
Direct Fax: +27 11 576 1355
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Re: Performance Testing (Embedded Resources)
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 18/09/06, Rishay Marajah <ri...@consology.com> wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
>
>
> Could some explain me the following:
>
> 1. What is difference between turning embedded resources on and
> off?
See:
http://jakarta.apache.org/jmeter/usermanual/component_reference.html#HTTP_Request
this describes what the check-box means.
> 2. When I turn embedded resources on certain pages...I get -> "The
> pages has temp...moved to"
Perhaps one of the embedded resource fetches is returning a redirect.
> 3. My testing env =
>
> a. Weblogic 8.1 SP4
> b. Oracle 9i DB
> c. J2EE Application
> d. HTTPS protocol
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Rishay Marajah
>
> QA Developer / Test Analyst / Jmeter Dark Templer
>
> Mobile: +27 84 884 8633
>
> MSN: Rishay@hotmail.com
>
> Direct Line: +27 11 575 1355
>
> Direct Fax: +27 11 576 1355
>
> Consology (Pty) Ltd
>
> www.consology.com
>
> Connect to better Business
>
>
>
> The Definition of an Upgrade: Take out old bugs and put new ones in
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: Performance Testing (Embedded Resources)
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
Just to add that JMeter won't download CSS and gifs/jpegs etc unless
you tell it to:
Either:
- by explicitly downloading them - in which case they will be shown as
separate samples
Or:
- by setting the "embedded" checkbox, in which case they will be shown
as children of the original sample, and the total time for the
original sample will include the times of all its children.
You can see this clearly by using the View Tree Listener.
S.
On 18/09/06, Peter Lin <wo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> JMeter will only measure the first byte sent to last byte recieved.
>
> Depending on the page layout, rendering could take a lot longer. What's your
> goal? JMeter is meant to test a server's ability to handle requests, not the
> browser's ability to render a page.
>
> I don't know how CompuWare QA load works, so maybe it's parsing the response
> from the server. I would suggest reading my article on load and stress
> testing on jmeter's homepage. hopefully that will explain things a bit
> better and help bring focus to your customer's qa testing.
>
> peter
>
> On 9/18/06, Rishay Marajah <ri...@consology.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> > I am currently measuring the performance of a J2EE application. The
> > Customer QA is using CompuWare QA Load and the results between this
> > product and jmeter are vastly different.
> >
> > The team has indicated to me that JMeter is NOT measuring the time it
> > takes from the moment of click until the page has fully loaded. It is
> > merely measuring the page request time.
> >
> > Even though jmeter does not show the CSS...Does it download it?
> > Does the timings include all the gifs/jpgs on the web page?
> >
> > Regards,
> > Rishay Marajah
> > QA Developer / Test Analyst / Jmeter Dark Templer
> > Mobile: +27 84 884 8633
> > MSN: Rishay@hotmail.com
> > Direct Line: +27 11 575 1355
> > Direct Fax: +27 11 576 1355
> > Consology (Pty) Ltd
> > www.consology.com
> > Connect to better Business
> >
> > The Definition of an Upgrade: Take out old bugs and put new ones in
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rishay Marajah [mailto:rishay@consology.com]
> > Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 4:59 PM
> > To: JMeter Users List
> > Subject: Performance Testing (Embedded Resources)
> >
> > Hi Guys,
> >
> >
> >
> > Could some explain me the following:
> >
> > 1. What is difference between turning embedded resources on and
> > off?
> > 2. When I turn embedded resources on certain pages...I get -> "The
> > pages has temp...moved to"
> > 3. My testing env =
> >
> > a. Weblogic 8.1 SP4
> > b. Oracle 9i DB
> > c. J2EE Application
> > d. HTTPS protocol
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Rishay Marajah
> >
> > QA Developer / Test Analyst / Jmeter Dark Templer
> >
> > Mobile: +27 84 884 8633
> >
> > MSN: Rishay@hotmail.com
> >
> > Direct Line: +27 11 575 1355
> >
> > Direct Fax: +27 11 576 1355
> >
> > Consology (Pty) Ltd
> >
> > www.consology.com
> >
> > Connect to better Business
> >
> >
> >
> > The Definition of an Upgrade: Take out old bugs and put new ones in
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: Performance Testing (Embedded Resources)
Posted by Peter Lin <wo...@gmail.com>.
JMeter will only measure the first byte sent to last byte recieved.
Depending on the page layout, rendering could take a lot longer. What's your
goal? JMeter is meant to test a server's ability to handle requests, not the
browser's ability to render a page.
I don't know how CompuWare QA load works, so maybe it's parsing the response
from the server. I would suggest reading my article on load and stress
testing on jmeter's homepage. hopefully that will explain things a bit
better and help bring focus to your customer's qa testing.
peter
On 9/18/06, Rishay Marajah <ri...@consology.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> I am currently measuring the performance of a J2EE application. The
> Customer QA is using CompuWare QA Load and the results between this
> product and jmeter are vastly different.
>
> The team has indicated to me that JMeter is NOT measuring the time it
> takes from the moment of click until the page has fully loaded. It is
> merely measuring the page request time.
>
> Even though jmeter does not show the CSS...Does it download it?
> Does the timings include all the gifs/jpgs on the web page?
>
> Regards,
> Rishay Marajah
> QA Developer / Test Analyst / Jmeter Dark Templer
> Mobile: +27 84 884 8633
> MSN: Rishay@hotmail.com
> Direct Line: +27 11 575 1355
> Direct Fax: +27 11 576 1355
> Consology (Pty) Ltd
> www.consology.com
> Connect to better Business
>
> The Definition of an Upgrade: Take out old bugs and put new ones in
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rishay Marajah [mailto:rishay@consology.com]
> Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 4:59 PM
> To: JMeter Users List
> Subject: Performance Testing (Embedded Resources)
>
> Hi Guys,
>
>
>
> Could some explain me the following:
>
> 1. What is difference between turning embedded resources on and
> off?
> 2. When I turn embedded resources on certain pages...I get -> "The
> pages has temp...moved to"
> 3. My testing env =
>
> a. Weblogic 8.1 SP4
> b. Oracle 9i DB
> c. J2EE Application
> d. HTTPS protocol
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Rishay Marajah
>
> QA Developer / Test Analyst / Jmeter Dark Templer
>
> Mobile: +27 84 884 8633
>
> MSN: Rishay@hotmail.com
>
> Direct Line: +27 11 575 1355
>
> Direct Fax: +27 11 576 1355
>
> Consology (Pty) Ltd
>
> www.consology.com
>
> Connect to better Business
>
>
>
> The Definition of an Upgrade: Take out old bugs and put new ones in
>
>
>
>
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RE: TPN POSSIBLE SPAM:RE: Performance Testing (Embedded Resources)
Posted by Alex Turner <Al...@Project-Network.com>.
Rishay,
This is not simple. If you set an http sampler to load all embedded objects that it should be measuring the entire time as you would want. However, browsers do it slightly differently.
IE for example will start requesting embedded objects as soon as it has parsed enough of the document to know what it should ask for. It may ask for the embedded objects in the same thread as the main page or using different threads/sockets, this will depend on how the objects are embedded and if you are using keep-alive or not.
I am not quite so familiar with Firefox, however, I have seen it using multiple threads and it seems to hang onto sockets for keep-alive much longer and IE under some situations. This can improve performance, but then make mimicking its behavior even more difficult because performance will alter according to how fast the user clicks through the site!
The simple answer is that you will have to carefully observe the traffic between the browser and the server and then work out how best to mimic that using JMeter. It is never going to be a 'point and click' situation.
Such is life!
AJ
Alexander J Turner Ph.D.
www.deployview.com
www.nerds-central.blogspot.com
www.project-network.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Rishay Marajah [mailto:rishay@consology.com]
Sent: 18 September 2006 16:12
To: JMeter Users List
Subject: TPN POSSIBLE SPAM:RE: Performance Testing (Embedded Resources)
Hi Guys,
I am currently measuring the performance of a J2EE application. The
Customer QA is using CompuWare QA Load and the results between this
product and jmeter are vastly different.
The team has indicated to me that JMeter is NOT measuring the time it
takes from the moment of click until the page has fully loaded. It is
merely measuring the page request time.
Even though jmeter does not show the CSS...Does it download it?
Does the timings include all the gifs/jpgs on the web page?
Regards,
Rishay Marajah
QA Developer / Test Analyst / Jmeter Dark Templer
Mobile: +27 84 884 8633
MSN: Rishay@hotmail.com
Direct Line: +27 11 575 1355
Direct Fax: +27 11 576 1355
Consology (Pty) Ltd
www.consology.com
Connect to better Business
The Definition of an Upgrade: Take out old bugs and put new ones in
-----Original Message-----
From: Rishay Marajah [mailto:rishay@consology.com]
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 4:59 PM
To: JMeter Users List
Subject: Performance Testing (Embedded Resources)
Hi Guys,
Could some explain me the following:
1. What is difference between turning embedded resources on and
off?
2. When I turn embedded resources on certain pages...I get -> "The
pages has temp...moved to"
3. My testing env =
a. Weblogic 8.1 SP4
b. Oracle 9i DB
c. J2EE Application
d. HTTPS protocol
Regards,
Rishay Marajah
QA Developer / Test Analyst / Jmeter Dark Templer
Mobile: +27 84 884 8633
MSN: Rishay@hotmail.com
Direct Line: +27 11 575 1355
Direct Fax: +27 11 576 1355
Consology (Pty) Ltd
www.consology.com
Connect to better Business
The Definition of an Upgrade: Take out old bugs and put new ones in
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RE: Performance Testing (Embedded Resources)
Posted by Rishay Marajah <ri...@consology.com>.
Hi Guys,
I am currently measuring the performance of a J2EE application. The
Customer QA is using CompuWare QA Load and the results between this
product and jmeter are vastly different.
The team has indicated to me that JMeter is NOT measuring the time it
takes from the moment of click until the page has fully loaded. It is
merely measuring the page request time.
Even though jmeter does not show the CSS...Does it download it?
Does the timings include all the gifs/jpgs on the web page?
Regards,
Rishay Marajah
QA Developer / Test Analyst / Jmeter Dark Templer
Mobile: +27 84 884 8633
MSN: Rishay@hotmail.com
Direct Line: +27 11 575 1355
Direct Fax: +27 11 576 1355
Consology (Pty) Ltd
www.consology.com
Connect to better Business
The Definition of an Upgrade: Take out old bugs and put new ones in
-----Original Message-----
From: Rishay Marajah [mailto:rishay@consology.com]
Sent: Monday, September 18, 2006 4:59 PM
To: JMeter Users List
Subject: Performance Testing (Embedded Resources)
Hi Guys,
Could some explain me the following:
1. What is difference between turning embedded resources on and
off?
2. When I turn embedded resources on certain pages...I get -> "The
pages has temp...moved to"
3. My testing env =
a. Weblogic 8.1 SP4
b. Oracle 9i DB
c. J2EE Application
d. HTTPS protocol
Regards,
Rishay Marajah
QA Developer / Test Analyst / Jmeter Dark Templer
Mobile: +27 84 884 8633
MSN: Rishay@hotmail.com
Direct Line: +27 11 575 1355
Direct Fax: +27 11 576 1355
Consology (Pty) Ltd
www.consology.com
Connect to better Business
The Definition of an Upgrade: Take out old bugs and put new ones in
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