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[GitHub] [incubator-uniffle] smallzhongfeng opened a new issue, #211: [Feature] User's resources quota
smallzhongfeng opened a new issue, #211:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-uniffle/issues/211
At present, we can not limit the user's resources. Maybe we can manually update the number of tasks submitted by the user through a configuration file. When the quota is exceeded, the app will be rejected, and the number of apps of different users can be used to represent resource quotas. What do u think? @jerqi
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[GitHub] [incubator-uniffle] smallzhongfeng commented on issue #211: [Feature] User's resources quota
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smallzhongfeng commented on issue #211:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-uniffle/issues/211#issuecomment-1244860446
Very coincidentally, our ideas are similar :) .
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[GitHub] [incubator-uniffle] zuston commented on issue #211: [Feature] User's resources quota
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zuston commented on issue #211:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-uniffle/issues/211#issuecomment-1244851169
Maybe this could be solved by implementing a custom AccessChecker to limit the users quota, I have done this.
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[GitHub] [incubator-uniffle] jerqi commented on issue #211: [Feature] User's resources quota
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jerqi commented on issue #211:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-uniffle/issues/211#issuecomment-1292967941
Offline Discussion Result:
We should consider the quota of coordinator and the quota of shuffle server .
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[GitHub] [incubator-uniffle] smallzhongfeng commented on issue #211: [Feature] User's resources quota
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smallzhongfeng commented on issue #211:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-uniffle/issues/211#issuecomment-1280393206
OK, I will add later.
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[GitHub] [incubator-uniffle] zuston commented on issue #211: [Feature] User's resources quota
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zuston commented on issue #211:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-uniffle/issues/211#issuecomment-1277612434
Currently I have no ideas on concrete design. If you want to contribute this feature, it’s better to have a simple design doc for reviewing. @Gustfh
Do u have some plan to invest this ticket? @smallzhongfeng
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[GitHub] [incubator-uniffle] smallzhongfeng commented on issue #211: [Feature] User's resources quota
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smallzhongfeng commented on issue #211:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-uniffle/issues/211#issuecomment-1283409047
Sorry, I forgot to give you permission, it has been updated.@jerqi @zuston
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[GitHub] [incubator-uniffle] Gustfh commented on issue #211: [Feature] User's resources quota
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Gustfh commented on issue #211:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-uniffle/issues/211#issuecomment-1291569631
ye, we are looking forward to it
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[GitHub] [incubator-uniffle] smallzhongfeng commented on issue #211: [Feature] User's resources quota
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smallzhongfeng commented on issue #211:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-uniffle/issues/211#issuecomment-1244855350
Because I haven't seen similar PR for the time being, so I create this issue.
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[GitHub] [incubator-uniffle] jerqi commented on issue #211: [Feature] User's resources quota
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jerqi commented on issue #211:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-uniffle/issues/211#issuecomment-1280581847
Could you give us the authority of the `comment`?
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[GitHub] [incubator-uniffle] smallzhongfeng commented on issue #211: [Feature] User's resources quota
Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
smallzhongfeng commented on issue #211:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-uniffle/issues/211#issuecomment-1280334791
[https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MApSMFQgoS1VAoKbZjomqSRm0iTbSuKG1yvKNlWW65c/edit?usp=sharing](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MApSMFQgoS1VAoKbZjomqSRm0iTbSuKG1yvKNlWW65c/edit?usp=sharing) If u have time, PTAL @jerqi @zuston
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[GitHub] [incubator-uniffle] smallzhongfeng commented on issue #211: [Feature] User's resources quota
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smallzhongfeng commented on issue #211:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-uniffle/issues/211#issuecomment-1247731633
When will this feature be available? @zuston
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[GitHub] [incubator-uniffle] jerqi commented on issue #211: [Feature] User's resources quota
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jerqi commented on issue #211:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-uniffle/issues/211#issuecomment-1291438952
@Gustfh @smallzhongfeng I have already send an email https://lists.apache.org/thread/2jlm3fswmsxy619ldyo4px700p3ybnvc. Do you have time at 11 am (UTC +8) Thursday this week?
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[GitHub] [incubator-uniffle] Gustfh commented on issue #211: [Feature] User's resources quota
Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
Gustfh commented on issue #211:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-uniffle/issues/211#issuecomment-1283513458
so it's user level quota, what if single app produce large shuffle data, then impact other app, for example a app have large shuffle data and also have lots of stage, and running for days, if you enable memory storage, this app's shuffle could live in memory for long times, am wonder should we have a quota for this situation.
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[GitHub] [incubator-uniffle] smallzhongfeng commented on issue #211: [Feature] User's resources quota
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smallzhongfeng commented on issue #211:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-uniffle/issues/211#issuecomment-1247750555
Well, although I think this may actually have some effect on user isolation, we can try to let users with high priority use more resources. I can understand what you mean.
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[GitHub] [incubator-uniffle] smallzhongfeng commented on issue #211: [Feature] User's resources quota
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smallzhongfeng commented on issue #211:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-uniffle/issues/211#issuecomment-1289359236
> Could you add some diagrams?
I added a simple graphic to illustrate the process of Spark's resource limitation. A more complete pr will be proposed this week.
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[GitHub] [incubator-uniffle] jerqi commented on issue #211: [Feature] User's resources quota
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jerqi commented on issue #211:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-uniffle/issues/211#issuecomment-1291556872
@smallzhongfeng @Gustfh
Meeting link is https://meeting.tencent.com/dm/oR95wASCNe91
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[GitHub] [incubator-uniffle] zuston commented on issue #211: [Feature] User's resources quota
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zuston commented on issue #211:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-uniffle/issues/211#issuecomment-1244856887
> At present, the app level is also limited, right?
Yes, I introduce a custom access checker to do following operation
1. Do grey-scale.
2. Add the blacklist for some jobs to fallback ESS.
3. ...
And so I think the resource quotas limitation could be implemented in custom access checker.
Please let me know If I misunderstand u.
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[GitHub] [incubator-uniffle] zuston commented on issue #211: [Feature] User's resources quota
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zuston commented on issue #211:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-uniffle/issues/211#issuecomment-1244869298
> Very coincidentally, our ideas are similar :) .
Maybe this is the best practice
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[GitHub] [incubator-uniffle] smallzhongfeng commented on issue #211: [Feature] User's resources quota
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smallzhongfeng commented on issue #211:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-uniffle/issues/211#issuecomment-1247763744
In fact, we have also achieved it, and completed the launch, the effect is still obvious, the user's resources are effectively managed, and it is easier to calculate the cost of the user's use for billing, so this issue is mentioned.
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[GitHub] [incubator-uniffle] jerqi commented on issue #211: [Feature] User's resources quota
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jerqi commented on issue #211:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-uniffle/issues/211#issuecomment-1286660371
@smallzhongfeng If you add some extra interfaces, you should describe them in the document.
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[GitHub] [incubator-uniffle] smallzhongfeng commented on issue #211: [Feature] User's resources quota
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smallzhongfeng commented on issue #211:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-uniffle/issues/211#issuecomment-1291416900
Of course, I'm looking forward to it.
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[GitHub] [incubator-uniffle] smallzhongfeng commented on issue #211: [Feature] User's resources quota
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smallzhongfeng commented on issue #211:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-uniffle/issues/211#issuecomment-1277951314
In the versions used internally in our company, we use quotas to limit the number of apps that a single user can submit. I don't have much idea about the number of shuffle servers that a single user can use. But I will write a simple document this weekend to discuss whether there are other requirements that can be developed in the future.@jerqi @zuston @Gustfh
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[GitHub] [incubator-uniffle] jerqi commented on issue #211: [Feature] User's resources quota
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jerqi commented on issue #211:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-uniffle/issues/211#issuecomment-1259106620
> I can raise a pr if needed. @jerqi
If the pr is large, you could write a design document first.
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[GitHub] [incubator-uniffle] jerqi commented on issue #211: [Feature] User's resources quota
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jerqi commented on issue #211:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-uniffle/issues/211#issuecomment-1280372591
Could you add some diagrams?
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[GitHub] [incubator-uniffle] smallzhongfeng commented on issue #211: [Feature] User's resources quota
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smallzhongfeng commented on issue #211:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-uniffle/issues/211#issuecomment-1280334901
[https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MApSMFQgoS1VAoKbZjomqSRm0iTbSuKG1yvKNlWW65c/edit?usp=sharing](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1MApSMFQgoS1VAoKbZjomqSRm0iTbSuKG1yvKNlWW65c/edit?usp=sharing) If u have time, PTAL @jerqi @zuston
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[GitHub] [incubator-uniffle] zuston commented on issue #211: [Feature] User's resources quota
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zuston commented on issue #211:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-uniffle/issues/211#issuecomment-1283814299
> so it's user level quota, what if single app produce large shuffle data, then impact other app, for example a app have large shuffle data and also have lots of stage, and running for days, if you enable memory storage, this app's shuffle could live in memory for long times, am wonder should we have a quota for this situation.
+1. I think the quota of bytes used by app/hadoop-user also should be involved in the design. And I think the different quota limitation like app-number/storage-bytes could be enabled by user.
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[GitHub] [incubator-uniffle] smallzhongfeng commented on issue #211: [Feature] User's resources quota
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smallzhongfeng commented on issue #211:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-uniffle/issues/211#issuecomment-1289371553
> so it's user level quota, what if single app produce large shuffle data, then impact other app, for example a app have large shuffle data and also have lots of stage, and running for days, if you enable memory storage, this app's shuffle could live in memory for long times, am wonder should we have a quota for this situation.
This is a good suggestion. I am currently developing it, which may be implemented in the next pr.
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[GitHub] [incubator-uniffle] jerqi closed issue #211: [Feature] User's resources quota
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jerqi closed issue #211: [Feature] User's resources quota
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-uniffle/issues/211
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[GitHub] [incubator-uniffle] smallzhongfeng closed issue #211: [Feature] User's resources quota
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smallzhongfeng closed issue #211: [Feature] User's resources quota
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-uniffle/issues/211
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[GitHub] [incubator-uniffle] Gustfh commented on issue #211: [Feature] User's resources quota
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Gustfh commented on issue #211:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-uniffle/issues/211#issuecomment-1275669602
any update? we also have plan to do this. may i ask whats the scope of the quota limit ? is it on single shuffle server ? or for the whole shuffle size. am thinking maybe we can do it as server level quota, so this feature can work with multiple server feature, the shuffle write could write to rest blocks to another server.
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[GitHub] [incubator-uniffle] smallzhongfeng commented on issue #211: [Feature] User's resources quota
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smallzhongfeng commented on issue #211:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-uniffle/issues/211#issuecomment-1244854675
At present, the app level is also limited, right?
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[GitHub] [incubator-uniffle] zuston commented on issue #211: [Feature] User's resources quota
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zuston commented on issue #211:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-uniffle/issues/211#issuecomment-1247741187
I think you misunderstand my thought. I implement the custom access checker to solve the problem you mentioned. You can do similar operations like me. And I think I wont submit this access checker to the uniffle codebase, because maybe it's not general.
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[GitHub] [incubator-uniffle] jerqi commented on issue #211: [Feature] User's resources quota
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jerqi commented on issue #211:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-uniffle/issues/211#issuecomment-1290045558
@smallzhongfeng @Gustfh @zuston Do you want to discuss this issue through a meeting? I will start a meeting to discuss the issue #80, I want to discuss this issue, too. There are some other issues which we need to discuss, so I will send a email to our dev mail list, and select a proper date to start the meeting. You can tell me what time you are free by the email.
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[GitHub] [incubator-uniffle] zuston commented on issue #211: [Feature] User's resources quota
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zuston commented on issue #211:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-uniffle/issues/211#issuecomment-1280612116
> Could you give us the authority of the `comment`?
+1
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[GitHub] [incubator-uniffle] smallzhongfeng commented on issue #211: [Feature] User's resources quota
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smallzhongfeng commented on issue #211:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-uniffle/issues/211#issuecomment-1254460187
I can raise a pr if needed.
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[GitHub] [incubator-uniffle] jerqi commented on issue #211: [Feature] User's resources quota
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jerqi commented on issue #211:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-uniffle/issues/211#issuecomment-1253594133
User quota is ok for us. I think it's the part work of multi-tent user support.
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[GitHub] [incubator-uniffle] jerqi commented on issue #211: [Feature] User's resources quota
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jerqi commented on issue #211:
URL: https://github.com/apache/incubator-uniffle/issues/211#issuecomment-1322926303
close by #311
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