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Posted to dev@whimsical.apache.org by Ross Gardler <Ro...@microsoft.com> on 2016/02/17 18:13:05 UTC
Perhaps I ought to step down as PMC Chair after-all
While I'm happy to continue as PMC Chair I do not feel I'm doing the job well. I typically have almost no hand in submitting the board report and this month I feel that I would be unable to adequately answer any questions the board had for me.
I'm happy to continue, and should the board have an issue I would find the time to address it, however, it might be in the projects best interests to appoint someone else (Sam is the obvious candidate since he is already doing the work of Chair, but I'm sure there are others around here too)
Ross
RE: Perhaps I ought to step down as PMC Chair after-all
Posted by Ross Gardler <Ro...@microsoft.com>.
:-)
If you have the time, yes please.
-----Original Message-----
From: sa3ruby@gmail.com [mailto:sa3ruby@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Sam Ruby
Sent: Monday, March 7, 2016 2:41 PM
To: dev@whimsical.apache.org
Subject: Re: Perhaps I ought to step down as PMC Chair after-all
On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 8:23 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980) <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> My rationale is that the chair also makes sense to be someone heavily
> vested in the project’s success which of course you are Sam. We don’t
> have to worry about BDFL here. You’re the opposite and someone we
> trust.
>
> Beyond that, if someone else really comes up in Whimsy (like Sebb is
> doing), maybe at some point he steps in as chair..
OK, the board meeting is coming up in a little over a week. I guess I should submit a chair change resolution?
- Sam Ruby
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: <sa...@gmail.com> on behalf of Sam Ruby
> <ru...@intertwingly.net>
> Reply-To: "dev@whimsical.apache.org" <de...@whimsical.apache.org>
> Date: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 12:08 PM
> To: "dev@whimsical.apache.org" <de...@whimsical.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: Perhaps I ought to step down as PMC Chair after-all
>
>>On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 1:51 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
>><ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>> +1 thank you for your service Ross.
>>>
>>> Sam prepared the report this month - any objections to him being the
>>> chair?
>>
>>I'm not opposed to the workload, but if there is anybody else
>>willing/able to take this role, I think it would help ensure that
>>there were multiple eyes on the project. I think that was part of the
>>thinking behind Ross's original volunteering for this role; but (quite
>>understandably given his workload), it didn't quite work out as hoped.
>>
>>- Sam Ruby
>
Re: Perhaps I ought to step down as PMC Chair after-all
Posted by Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net>.
On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 8:23 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
<ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> My rationale is that the chair also makes sense to be someone
> heavily vested in the project’s success which of course you are
> Sam. We don’t have to worry about BDFL here. You’re the opposite
> and someone we trust.
>
> Beyond that, if someone else really comes up in Whimsy (like Sebb
> is doing), maybe at some point he steps in as chair..
OK, the board meeting is coming up in a little over a week. I guess I
should submit a chair change resolution?
- Sam Ruby
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
> Chief Architect
> Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398)
> NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
> Office: 168-519, Mailstop: 168-527
> Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
> WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department
> University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: <sa...@gmail.com> on behalf of Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net>
> Reply-To: "dev@whimsical.apache.org" <de...@whimsical.apache.org>
> Date: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 12:08 PM
> To: "dev@whimsical.apache.org" <de...@whimsical.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: Perhaps I ought to step down as PMC Chair after-all
>
>>On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 1:51 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
>><ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>>> +1 thank you for your service Ross.
>>>
>>> Sam prepared the report this month - any objections to him
>>> being the chair?
>>
>>I'm not opposed to the workload, but if there is anybody else
>>willing/able to take this role, I think it would help ensure that
>>there were multiple eyes on the project. I think that was part of the
>>thinking behind Ross's original volunteering for this role; but (quite
>>understandably given his workload), it didn't quite work out as hoped.
>>
>>- Sam Ruby
>
Re: Perhaps I ought to step down as PMC Chair after-all
Posted by "Mattmann, Chris A (3980)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
My rationale is that the chair also makes sense to be someone
heavily vested in the project’s success which of course you are
Sam. We don’t have to worry about BDFL here. You’re the opposite
and someone we trust.
Beyond that, if someone else really comes up in Whimsy (like Sebb
is doing), maybe at some point he steps in as chair..
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Chief Architect
Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398)
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 168-519, Mailstop: 168-527
Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
-----Original Message-----
From: <sa...@gmail.com> on behalf of Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net>
Reply-To: "dev@whimsical.apache.org" <de...@whimsical.apache.org>
Date: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 12:08 PM
To: "dev@whimsical.apache.org" <de...@whimsical.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Perhaps I ought to step down as PMC Chair after-all
>On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 1:51 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
><ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
>> +1 thank you for your service Ross.
>>
>> Sam prepared the report this month - any objections to him
>> being the chair?
>
>I'm not opposed to the workload, but if there is anybody else
>willing/able to take this role, I think it would help ensure that
>there were multiple eyes on the project. I think that was part of the
>thinking behind Ross's original volunteering for this role; but (quite
>understandably given his workload), it didn't quite work out as hoped.
>
>- Sam Ruby
Re: Perhaps I ought to step down as PMC Chair after-all
Posted by Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net>.
On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 1:51 PM, Mattmann, Chris A (3980)
<ch...@jpl.nasa.gov> wrote:
> +1 thank you for your service Ross.
>
> Sam prepared the report this month - any objections to him
> being the chair?
I'm not opposed to the workload, but if there is anybody else
willing/able to take this role, I think it would help ensure that
there were multiple eyes on the project. I think that was part of the
thinking behind Ross's original volunteering for this role; but (quite
understandably given his workload), it didn't quite work out as hoped.
- Sam Ruby
Re: Perhaps I ought to step down as PMC Chair after-all
Posted by "Mattmann, Chris A (3980)" <ch...@jpl.nasa.gov>.
+1 thank you for your service Ross.
Sam prepared the report this month - any objections to him
being the chair?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Chris Mattmann, Ph.D.
Chief Architect
Instrument Software and Science Data Systems Section (398)
NASA Jet Propulsion Laboratory Pasadena, CA 91109 USA
Office: 168-519, Mailstop: 168-527
Email: chris.a.mattmann@nasa.gov
WWW: http://sunset.usc.edu/~mattmann/
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Adjunct Associate Professor, Computer Science Department
University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA 90089 USA
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
-----Original Message-----
From: Ross Gardler <Ro...@microsoft.com>
Reply-To: "dev@whimsical.apache.org" <de...@whimsical.apache.org>
Date: Wednesday, February 17, 2016 at 9:13 AM
To: "dev@whimsical.apache.org" <de...@whimsical.apache.org>
Subject: Perhaps I ought to step down as PMC Chair after-all
>While I'm happy to continue as PMC Chair I do not feel I'm doing the job
>well. I typically have almost no hand in submitting the board report and
>this month I feel that I would be unable to adequately answer any
>questions the board had for me.
>
>I'm happy to continue, and should the board have an issue I would find
>the time to address it, however, it might be in the projects best
>interests to appoint someone else (Sam is the obvious candidate since he
>is already doing the work of Chair, but I'm sure there are others around
>here too)
>
>Ross