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Posted to dev@ofbiz.apache.org by Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org> on 2017/07/25 10:59:15 UTC

Re: New Website Branch Created

Hi Everyone

I've pretty much completed what I think could be an initial version of our new website so please feel free to take a look and let me have any feedback. (Just for info - all the pictures I've used are from Pixabay.com and are free to use and don't need any attribution)

It would be good to have some sample OFBiz pictures (and community feedback supported this too - instead of the all generic ones) especially on the home page so I have contacted Kenneth Paskett who has helped with the graphic design so far, to ask for a little more help doing that.  So once that is done, pending any other feedback, I think we could be ready to publish.

Thanks
Sharan


On 2017-06-25 18:54 (+0200), Taher Alkhateeb <sl...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> +1 for switching the website to the new one and completing it as we go.
> 
> We should try to automate publishing the website. One solution is to
> publish the website as is. Another solution is to restructure the
> website so that only the "generated" stuff gets published to the
> server. So the directory structure could be something like the below.
> And then we can have commands like ./gradlew generateHtml or ./gradlew
> publishHtml
> 
> website-project/
> ├── build.gradle
> ├── public
> │   ├── about-ofbiz.html
> │   ├── business-users.html
> │   ├── developers.html
> │   ├── bootstrap
> │   ├── css
> │   └── etc...
> └── template
>     ├── html.tpl.php
>     ├── page
>     │   ├── about-ofbiz.tpl.php
>     │   ├── business-users.tpl.php
>     │   ├── developers.tpl.php
>     │   └── etc ...
>     └── region
>         ├── footer.tpl.php
>         ├── header.tpl.php
>         ├── head.tpl.php
>         └── scripts.tpl.php
> 
> On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 7:35 PM, Sharan Foga <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Michael
> >
> > I like the idea (I'd been looking at an all or nothing approach :-) so just
> > putting the minimum we need live is OK with me. I have some changes in
> > progress for the main page, so will commit those tomorrow. Essentially I've
> > removed the bottom slider panel and instead added a section on OFBiz
> > Features, modules and benefits. I'll also take a look at the key pages and
> > update what I can.
> >
> > I'm not sure what to do about the php template conversion to html. I've been
> > doing it manually but it probably needs a script and I know we talked about
> > replacing the php templates with Freemarker ones but not sure how easy that
> > would be so ideas welcome.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Sharan
> >
> >
> >
> > On 25/06/17 18:03, Michael Brohl wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Sharan,
> >>
> >> Taher gave me a hint on this topic so I had a look at the new website code
> >> and display. I like it and think we should put some effort  in this to get
> >> it ready for production.
> >>
> >> I'm thinking about leaving some of the new contents out of sight for the
> >> first release, namely the service providers page and "what customers said"
> >> etc. (everything which is new and not ready for production.
> >> I think it would be enough to have the up-to-date informations from the
> >> old site plus some more which are ready (or near ready) to speed things up.
> >>
> >> What do you think?
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >>
> >> Michael Brohl
> >> ecomify GmbH
> >> www.ecomify.de
> >>
> >>
> >> Am 20.03.17 um 13:54 schrieb Sharan Foga:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Everyone
> >>>
> >>> A quick update. I've created a new branch called under the branches
> >>> directory called ofbiz-new-website and have uploaded all the work done so
> >>> far on the new website structure and pages.
> >>>
> >>> The plan is to complete the work in this branch and then copy it over to
> >>> the new site when we are ready. I think the content itself is the most
> >>> important so will continue to to tidy up and complete any missing pages or
> >>> information. It's in our repository now so hopefully more accessible to
> >>> people who want to help out.
> >>>
> >>> I'd encourage you all to take a look at what has been done to so that I
> >>> can get some feedback of what people think of the general look and feel.
> >>>
> >>> Once again – I'd like to thank Kenneth Paskett for helping out with the
> >>> graphics.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>> Sharan
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
>

Re: New Website Branch Created

Posted by Paul Foxworthy <pa...@cohsoft.com.au>.
On 30 July 2017 at 19:42, Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>
wrote:


> For demos, why do you prefer a link to accounting than product (catalog
> webapp) as we did before (David did it long ago)? BTW developers, was
> catalog the best place?
>

Hi all,

Kathy Sierra was head of Java training at Sun and co-founder of the Head
First series of books at O'Reilly. She was and is very opinionated about
how people learn. See http://www.headfirstlabs.com/readme.php . In
particular:

"We use *people*. In stories, examples, pictures, etc., because, well,
because *you're* a person. And your brain pays more attention to people
than it does to things."

The first thing people should see should be something they can relate to.
People, or in OFBiz terms, Parties. Next best are products - they are
tangible. Accounting should not be the first thing people see. It only
makes sense to count the money after we've earned it.

Cheers

Paul

-- 
Coherent Software Australia Pty Ltd
PO Box 2773
Cheltenham Vic 3192
Australia

Phone: +61 3 9585 6788
Web: http://www.coherentsoftware.com.au/
Email: info@coherentsoftware.com.au

Re: New Website Branch Created

Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
Hi Sharan,

First congrats for the excellent work. I think we are ready to replace the old site. I have not checked all yet, but yes, we can do once online...

I agree with Taher about "The three main pitches". I'd prefer links, we can refer to 
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Apache+OFBiz+User+Stories a sole and same link from all points should be enough

For the FAQ page we can expand it later. For now I'd simply add a link to the wiki page, of course we can clean it up...

For demos, why do you prefer a link to accounting than product (catalog webapp) as we did before (David did it long ago)? BTW developers, was catalog 
the best place?

Do we say a word about plugins (did not find anything)?

|For ML page, what about our policy? Is it, should it be, somewhere else? Should we not add a link to Bertrand's "|Large Mailing Lists Survival Guide|"?

Don't we lose something about the news? Like we have a short FAQ page, could we not have a short News page for at least last releases short information?

Don't we miss a link to the official (and required) http://www.apache.org/foundation/thanks.html page? Is 
http://www.apache.org/foundation/sponsorship.html not required too?

Do we have a link to HipChat? Though I'm not sure it's a good idea :D

Thanks!

Jacques

|Le 26/07/2017 à 11:47, Sharan Foga a écrit :
> Thanks Taher and Pranay
>
> Initial feedback from Kenneth is that a couple of the images look a bit out of place so I've asked for his suggestions for improving that.
> Also he is preparing some images of OFBiz screenshots that we can use on the site so I'd like to get at least those changes in before publishing.
>
> I've noted your feedback and agree these are good points that can improve the site so will look at those. If I can incorporate some before publishing then I will, otherwise we can do it as an ongoing thing once the new site is up.
>
> Thanks
> Sharan
>
> On 2017-07-26 08:13 (+0200), Taher Alkhateeb <sl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Thank you very much Sharan. The website looks really beautiful! my
>> recommendation is to go ahead and publish it immediately and we can
>> start to fix things as we go.
>>
>> Some notes for things to work on later:
>> - The three main pitches should be either without a link, or a link to
>> relevant documentation (I'm referring to: "Powerful Java Web
>> Framework", "Developer Friendly", etc ...)
>> - The FAQ needs to be expanded, maybe we can get stuff from the
>> original FAQ documentation after we clean it up [1]
>> - We need to find a more appealing solution for the social media
>> links. I believe they should be in the top as icons instead of links
>> in the footer. I think the template used already has a solution for
>> this but I need to review it at some point.
>>
>> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/FAQ+-+Tips+-+Tricks+-+Cookbook+-+HowTo
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> Hi Everyone
>>>
>>> I've pretty much completed what I think could be an initial version of our new website so please feel free to take a look and let me have any feedback. (Just for info - all the pictures I've used are from Pixabay.com and are free to use and don't need any attribution)
>>>
>>> It would be good to have some sample OFBiz pictures (and community feedback supported this too - instead of the all generic ones) especially on the home page so I have contacted Kenneth Paskett who has helped with the graphic design so far, to ask for a little more help doing that.  So once that is done, pending any other feedback, I think we could be ready to publish.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Sharan
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2017-06-25 18:54 (+0200), Taher Alkhateeb <sl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> +1 for switching the website to the new one and completing it as we go.
>>>>
>>>> We should try to automate publishing the website. One solution is to
>>>> publish the website as is. Another solution is to restructure the
>>>> website so that only the "generated" stuff gets published to the
>>>> server. So the directory structure could be something like the below.
>>>> And then we can have commands like ./gradlew generateHtml or ./gradlew
>>>> publishHtml
>>>>
>>>> website-project/
>>>> ├── build.gradle
>>>> ├── public
>>>> │   ├── about-ofbiz.html
>>>> │   ├── business-users.html
>>>> │   ├── developers.html
>>>> │   ├── bootstrap
>>>> │   ├── css
>>>> │   └── etc...
>>>> └── template
>>>>      ├── html.tpl.php
>>>>      ├── page
>>>>      │   ├── about-ofbiz.tpl.php
>>>>      │   ├── business-users.tpl.php
>>>>      │   ├── developers.tpl.php
>>>>      │   └── etc ...
>>>>      └── region
>>>>          ├── footer.tpl.php
>>>>          ├── header.tpl.php
>>>>          ├── head.tpl.php
>>>>          └── scripts.tpl.php
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 7:35 PM, Sharan Foga <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Michael
>>>>>
>>>>> I like the idea (I'd been looking at an all or nothing approach :-) so just
>>>>> putting the minimum we need live is OK with me. I have some changes in
>>>>> progress for the main page, so will commit those tomorrow. Essentially I've
>>>>> removed the bottom slider panel and instead added a section on OFBiz
>>>>> Features, modules and benefits. I'll also take a look at the key pages and
>>>>> update what I can.
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not sure what to do about the php template conversion to html. I've been
>>>>> doing it manually but it probably needs a script and I know we talked about
>>>>> replacing the php templates with Freemarker ones but not sure how easy that
>>>>> would be so ideas welcome.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Sharan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 25/06/17 18:03, Michael Brohl wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Sharan,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Taher gave me a hint on this topic so I had a look at the new website code
>>>>>> and display. I like it and think we should put some effort  in this to get
>>>>>> it ready for production.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm thinking about leaving some of the new contents out of sight for the
>>>>>> first release, namely the service providers page and "what customers said"
>>>>>> etc. (everything which is new and not ready for production.
>>>>>> I think it would be enough to have the up-to-date informations from the
>>>>>> old site plus some more which are ready (or near ready) to speed things up.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What do you think?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Michael Brohl
>>>>>> ecomify GmbH
>>>>>> www.ecomify.de
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 20.03.17 um 13:54 schrieb Sharan Foga:
>>>>>>> Hi Everyone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A quick update. I've created a new branch called under the branches
>>>>>>> directory called ofbiz-new-website and have uploaded all the work done so
>>>>>>> far on the new website structure and pages.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The plan is to complete the work in this branch and then copy it over to
>>>>>>> the new site when we are ready. I think the content itself is the most
>>>>>>> important so will continue to to tidy up and complete any missing pages or
>>>>>>> information. It's in our repository now so hopefully more accessible to
>>>>>>> people who want to help out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'd encourage you all to take a look at what has been done to so that I
>>>>>>> can get some feedback of what people think of the general look and feel.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Once again – I'd like to thank Kenneth Paskett for helping out with the
>>>>>>> graphics.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> Sharan
>>>>>>
>>>>>>

Re: New Website Branch Created

Posted by Taher Alkhateeb <sl...@gmail.com>.
The pictures are lovely. The website is looking refined and the menu is
logical and makes sense. It looks great both on my mobile and my laptop. I
tested it with both chrome and firefox.

+1 for replacement. For any minor changes we can always improve later.

Once it is published, I can start working on adding gradle to automate
publishing and maybe later change the underlying templates to FreeMarker.

Thank you for this work, it's a breath of fresh air and a big marketing
boost to OFBiz.

On Aug 24, 2017 7:01 PM, "Sharan Foga" <sh...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi All
>
> Kenneth sent me some updated images and code for the slider on the new
> home page, so I've committed all the changes. I also took another look
> through and fixed a few typos, links etc that I think we don't need for the
> first version.
>
> For the demos – I've changed the default application from accounting to
> order manager. My thought is that most people would know the main steps
> involved in creating an order. (But am happy to go with what the community
> agrees on – parties, products whatever...).
>
> So if people want to give this a final review, I think we could be ready
> to do the changeover to the new site. I'm not sure exactly how it needs to
> be done so would need some help and advice there :-)
>
> You can see the latest version of the website here
>
> http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz/branches/ofbiz-new-
> website/index.html
>
> Let me know if there are any final changes / tweaks etc. And thanks again
> to everyone (and especially Kenneth) for help getting us to this stage.
>
> Thanks
> Sharan
>
>
> On 2017-07-26 11:47, "Sharan Foga"<sh...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Thanks Taher and Pranay
> >
> > Initial feedback from Kenneth is that a couple of the images look a bit
> out of place so I've asked for his suggestions for improving that.
> > Also he is preparing some images of OFBiz screenshots that we can use on
> the site so I'd like to get at least those changes in before publishing.
> >
> > I've noted your feedback and agree these are good points that can
> improve the site so will look at those. If I can incorporate some before
> publishing then I will, otherwise we can do it as an ongoing thing once the
> new site is up.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Sharan
> >
> > On 2017-07-26 08:13 (+0200), Taher Alkhateeb <sl...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > Thank you very much Sharan. The website looks really beautiful! my
> > > recommendation is to go ahead and publish it immediately and we can
> > > start to fix things as we go.
> > >
> > > Some notes for things to work on later:
> > > - The three main pitches should be either without a link, or a link to
> > > relevant documentation (I'm referring to: "Powerful Java Web
> > > Framework", "Developer Friendly", etc ...)
> > > - The FAQ needs to be expanded, maybe we can get stuff from the
> > > original FAQ documentation after we clean it up [1]
> > > - We need to find a more appealing solution for the social media
> > > links. I believe they should be in the top as icons instead of links
> > > in the footer. I think the template used already has a solution for
> > > this but I need to review it at some point.
> > >
> > > [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/FAQ+-
> +Tips+-+Tricks+-+Cookbook+-+HowTo
> > >
> > > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > > > Hi Everyone
> > > >
> > > > I've pretty much completed what I think could be an initial version
> of our new website so please feel free to take a look and let me have any
> feedback. (Just for info - all the pictures I've used are from Pixabay.com
> and are free to use and don't need any attribution)
> > > >
> > > > It would be good to have some sample OFBiz pictures (and community
> feedback supported this too - instead of the all generic ones) especially
> on the home page so I have contacted Kenneth Paskett who has helped with
> the graphic design so far, to ask for a little more help doing that.  So
> once that is done, pending any other feedback, I think we could be ready to
> publish.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Sharan
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 2017-06-25 18:54 (+0200), Taher Alkhateeb <
> slidingfilaments@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> +1 for switching the website to the new one and completing it as we
> go.
> > > >>
> > > >> We should try to automate publishing the website. One solution is to
> > > >> publish the website as is. Another solution is to restructure the
> > > >> website so that only the "generated" stuff gets published to the
> > > >> server. So the directory structure could be something like the
> below.
> > > >> And then we can have commands like ./gradlew generateHtml or
> ./gradlew
> > > >> publishHtml
> > > >>
> > > >> website-project/
> > > >> ├── build.gradle
> > > >> ├── public
> > > >> │   ├── about-ofbiz.html
> > > >> │   ├── business-users.html
> > > >> │   ├── developers.html
> > > >> │   ├── bootstrap
> > > >> │   ├── css
> > > >> │   └── etc...
> > > >> └── template
> > > >>     ├── html.tpl.php
> > > >>     ├── page
> > > >>     │   ├── about-ofbiz.tpl.php
> > > >>     │   ├── business-users.tpl.php
> > > >>     │   ├── developers.tpl.php
> > > >>     │   └── etc ...
> > > >>     └── region
> > > >>         ├── footer.tpl.php
> > > >>         ├── header.tpl.php
> > > >>         ├── head.tpl.php
> > > >>         └── scripts.tpl.php
> > > >>
> > > >> On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 7:35 PM, Sharan Foga <sh...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > >> > Hi Michael
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I like the idea (I'd been looking at an all or nothing approach
> :-) so just
> > > >> > putting the minimum we need live is OK with me. I have some
> changes in
> > > >> > progress for the main page, so will commit those tomorrow.
> Essentially I've
> > > >> > removed the bottom slider panel and instead added a section on
> OFBiz
> > > >> > Features, modules and benefits. I'll also take a look at the key
> pages and
> > > >> > update what I can.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > I'm not sure what to do about the php template conversion to
> html. I've been
> > > >> > doing it manually but it probably needs a script and I know we
> talked about
> > > >> > replacing the php templates with Freemarker ones but not sure how
> easy that
> > > >> > would be so ideas welcome.
> > > >> >
> > > >> > Thanks
> > > >> > Sharan
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> >
> > > >> > On 25/06/17 18:03, Michael Brohl wrote:
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Hi Sharan,
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Taher gave me a hint on this topic so I had a look at the new
> website code
> > > >> >> and display. I like it and think we should put some effort  in
> this to get
> > > >> >> it ready for production.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> I'm thinking about leaving some of the new contents out of sight
> for the
> > > >> >> first release, namely the service providers page and "what
> customers said"
> > > >> >> etc. (everything which is new and not ready for production.
> > > >> >> I think it would be enough to have the up-to-date informations
> from the
> > > >> >> old site plus some more which are ready (or near ready) to speed
> things up.
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> What do you think?
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Best regards,
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Michael Brohl
> > > >> >> ecomify GmbH
> > > >> >> www.ecomify.de
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Am 20.03.17 um 13:54 schrieb Sharan Foga:
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> Hi Everyone
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> A quick update. I've created a new branch called under the
> branches
> > > >> >>> directory called ofbiz-new-website and have uploaded all the
> work done so
> > > >> >>> far on the new website structure and pages.
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> The plan is to complete the work in this branch and then copy
> it over to
> > > >> >>> the new site when we are ready. I think the content itself is
> the most
> > > >> >>> important so will continue to to tidy up and complete any
> missing pages or
> > > >> >>> information. It's in our repository now so hopefully more
> accessible to
> > > >> >>> people who want to help out.
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> I'd encourage you all to take a look at what has been done to
> so that I
> > > >> >>> can get some feedback of what people think of the general look
> and feel.
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> Once again – I'd like to thank Kenneth Paskett for
> helping out with the
> > > >> >>> graphics.
> > > >> >>>
> > > >> >>> Thanks
> > > >> >>> Sharan
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >
> > > >>
> > >
> >
>

Re: New Website Branch Created

Posted by Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org>.
Hi All

Kenneth sent me some updated images and code for the slider on the new home page, so I've committed all the changes. I also took another look through and fixed a few typos, links etc that I think we don't need for the first version.

For the demos – I've changed the default application from accounting to order manager. My thought is that most people would know the main steps involved in creating an order. (But am happy to go with what the community agrees on – parties, products whatever...).

So if people want to give this a final review, I think we could be ready to do the changeover to the new site. I'm not sure exactly how it needs to be done so would need some help and advice there :-)

You can see the latest version of the website here

http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/ofbiz/branches/ofbiz-new-website/index.html

Let me know if there are any final changes / tweaks etc. And thanks again to everyone (and especially Kenneth) for help getting us to this stage.

Thanks
Sharan


On 2017-07-26 11:47, "Sharan Foga"<sh...@apache.org> wrote: 
> Thanks Taher and Pranay
> 
> Initial feedback from Kenneth is that a couple of the images look a bit out of place so I've asked for his suggestions for improving that.
> Also he is preparing some images of OFBiz screenshots that we can use on the site so I'd like to get at least those changes in before publishing. 
> 
> I've noted your feedback and agree these are good points that can improve the site so will look at those. If I can incorporate some before publishing then I will, otherwise we can do it as an ongoing thing once the new site is up. 
> 
> Thanks
> Sharan
> 
> On 2017-07-26 08:13 (+0200), Taher Alkhateeb <sl...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> > Thank you very much Sharan. The website looks really beautiful! my
> > recommendation is to go ahead and publish it immediately and we can
> > start to fix things as we go.
> > 
> > Some notes for things to work on later:
> > - The three main pitches should be either without a link, or a link to
> > relevant documentation (I'm referring to: "Powerful Java Web
> > Framework", "Developer Friendly", etc ...)
> > - The FAQ needs to be expanded, maybe we can get stuff from the
> > original FAQ documentation after we clean it up [1]
> > - We need to find a more appealing solution for the social media
> > links. I believe they should be in the top as icons instead of links
> > in the footer. I think the template used already has a solution for
> > this but I need to review it at some point.
> > 
> > [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/FAQ+-+Tips+-+Tricks+-+Cookbook+-+HowTo
> > 
> > On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > Hi Everyone
> > >
> > > I've pretty much completed what I think could be an initial version of our new website so please feel free to take a look and let me have any feedback. (Just for info - all the pictures I've used are from Pixabay.com and are free to use and don't need any attribution)
> > >
> > > It would be good to have some sample OFBiz pictures (and community feedback supported this too - instead of the all generic ones) especially on the home page so I have contacted Kenneth Paskett who has helped with the graphic design so far, to ask for a little more help doing that.  So once that is done, pending any other feedback, I think we could be ready to publish.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Sharan
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2017-06-25 18:54 (+0200), Taher Alkhateeb <sl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> +1 for switching the website to the new one and completing it as we go.
> > >>
> > >> We should try to automate publishing the website. One solution is to
> > >> publish the website as is. Another solution is to restructure the
> > >> website so that only the "generated" stuff gets published to the
> > >> server. So the directory structure could be something like the below.
> > >> And then we can have commands like ./gradlew generateHtml or ./gradlew
> > >> publishHtml
> > >>
> > >> website-project/
> > >> ├── build.gradle
> > >> ├── public
> > >> │   ├── about-ofbiz.html
> > >> │   ├── business-users.html
> > >> │   ├── developers.html
> > >> │   ├── bootstrap
> > >> │   ├── css
> > >> │   └── etc...
> > >> └── template
> > >>     ├── html.tpl.php
> > >>     ├── page
> > >>     │   ├── about-ofbiz.tpl.php
> > >>     │   ├── business-users.tpl.php
> > >>     │   ├── developers.tpl.php
> > >>     │   └── etc ...
> > >>     └── region
> > >>         ├── footer.tpl.php
> > >>         ├── header.tpl.php
> > >>         ├── head.tpl.php
> > >>         └── scripts.tpl.php
> > >>
> > >> On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 7:35 PM, Sharan Foga <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >> > Hi Michael
> > >> >
> > >> > I like the idea (I'd been looking at an all or nothing approach :-) so just
> > >> > putting the minimum we need live is OK with me. I have some changes in
> > >> > progress for the main page, so will commit those tomorrow. Essentially I've
> > >> > removed the bottom slider panel and instead added a section on OFBiz
> > >> > Features, modules and benefits. I'll also take a look at the key pages and
> > >> > update what I can.
> > >> >
> > >> > I'm not sure what to do about the php template conversion to html. I've been
> > >> > doing it manually but it probably needs a script and I know we talked about
> > >> > replacing the php templates with Freemarker ones but not sure how easy that
> > >> > would be so ideas welcome.
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks
> > >> > Sharan
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> > On 25/06/17 18:03, Michael Brohl wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Hi Sharan,
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Taher gave me a hint on this topic so I had a look at the new website code
> > >> >> and display. I like it and think we should put some effort  in this to get
> > >> >> it ready for production.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> I'm thinking about leaving some of the new contents out of sight for the
> > >> >> first release, namely the service providers page and "what customers said"
> > >> >> etc. (everything which is new and not ready for production.
> > >> >> I think it would be enough to have the up-to-date informations from the
> > >> >> old site plus some more which are ready (or near ready) to speed things up.
> > >> >>
> > >> >> What do you think?
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Best regards,
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Michael Brohl
> > >> >> ecomify GmbH
> > >> >> www.ecomify.de
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >> Am 20.03.17 um 13:54 schrieb Sharan Foga:
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Hi Everyone
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> A quick update. I've created a new branch called under the branches
> > >> >>> directory called ofbiz-new-website and have uploaded all the work done so
> > >> >>> far on the new website structure and pages.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> The plan is to complete the work in this branch and then copy it over to
> > >> >>> the new site when we are ready. I think the content itself is the most
> > >> >>> important so will continue to to tidy up and complete any missing pages or
> > >> >>> information. It's in our repository now so hopefully more accessible to
> > >> >>> people who want to help out.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> I'd encourage you all to take a look at what has been done to so that I
> > >> >>> can get some feedback of what people think of the general look and feel.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Once again – I'd like to thank Kenneth Paskett for helping out with the
> > >> >>> graphics.
> > >> >>>
> > >> >>> Thanks
> > >> >>> Sharan
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >>
> > >> >
> > >>
> > 
>

Re: New Website Branch Created

Posted by Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org>.
Thanks Taher and Pranay

Initial feedback from Kenneth is that a couple of the images look a bit out of place so I've asked for his suggestions for improving that.
Also he is preparing some images of OFBiz screenshots that we can use on the site so I'd like to get at least those changes in before publishing. 

I've noted your feedback and agree these are good points that can improve the site so will look at those. If I can incorporate some before publishing then I will, otherwise we can do it as an ongoing thing once the new site is up. 

Thanks
Sharan

On 2017-07-26 08:13 (+0200), Taher Alkhateeb <sl...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> Thank you very much Sharan. The website looks really beautiful! my
> recommendation is to go ahead and publish it immediately and we can
> start to fix things as we go.
> 
> Some notes for things to work on later:
> - The three main pitches should be either without a link, or a link to
> relevant documentation (I'm referring to: "Powerful Java Web
> Framework", "Developer Friendly", etc ...)
> - The FAQ needs to be expanded, maybe we can get stuff from the
> original FAQ documentation after we clean it up [1]
> - We need to find a more appealing solution for the social media
> links. I believe they should be in the top as icons instead of links
> in the footer. I think the template used already has a solution for
> this but I need to review it at some point.
> 
> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/FAQ+-+Tips+-+Tricks+-+Cookbook+-+HowTo
> 
> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Hi Everyone
> >
> > I've pretty much completed what I think could be an initial version of our new website so please feel free to take a look and let me have any feedback. (Just for info - all the pictures I've used are from Pixabay.com and are free to use and don't need any attribution)
> >
> > It would be good to have some sample OFBiz pictures (and community feedback supported this too - instead of the all generic ones) especially on the home page so I have contacted Kenneth Paskett who has helped with the graphic design so far, to ask for a little more help doing that.  So once that is done, pending any other feedback, I think we could be ready to publish.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Sharan
> >
> >
> > On 2017-06-25 18:54 (+0200), Taher Alkhateeb <sl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> +1 for switching the website to the new one and completing it as we go.
> >>
> >> We should try to automate publishing the website. One solution is to
> >> publish the website as is. Another solution is to restructure the
> >> website so that only the "generated" stuff gets published to the
> >> server. So the directory structure could be something like the below.
> >> And then we can have commands like ./gradlew generateHtml or ./gradlew
> >> publishHtml
> >>
> >> website-project/
> >> ├── build.gradle
> >> ├── public
> >> │   ├── about-ofbiz.html
> >> │   ├── business-users.html
> >> │   ├── developers.html
> >> │   ├── bootstrap
> >> │   ├── css
> >> │   └── etc...
> >> └── template
> >>     ├── html.tpl.php
> >>     ├── page
> >>     │   ├── about-ofbiz.tpl.php
> >>     │   ├── business-users.tpl.php
> >>     │   ├── developers.tpl.php
> >>     │   └── etc ...
> >>     └── region
> >>         ├── footer.tpl.php
> >>         ├── header.tpl.php
> >>         ├── head.tpl.php
> >>         └── scripts.tpl.php
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 7:35 PM, Sharan Foga <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> > Hi Michael
> >> >
> >> > I like the idea (I'd been looking at an all or nothing approach :-) so just
> >> > putting the minimum we need live is OK with me. I have some changes in
> >> > progress for the main page, so will commit those tomorrow. Essentially I've
> >> > removed the bottom slider panel and instead added a section on OFBiz
> >> > Features, modules and benefits. I'll also take a look at the key pages and
> >> > update what I can.
> >> >
> >> > I'm not sure what to do about the php template conversion to html. I've been
> >> > doing it manually but it probably needs a script and I know we talked about
> >> > replacing the php templates with Freemarker ones but not sure how easy that
> >> > would be so ideas welcome.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> > Sharan
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 25/06/17 18:03, Michael Brohl wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi Sharan,
> >> >>
> >> >> Taher gave me a hint on this topic so I had a look at the new website code
> >> >> and display. I like it and think we should put some effort  in this to get
> >> >> it ready for production.
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm thinking about leaving some of the new contents out of sight for the
> >> >> first release, namely the service providers page and "what customers said"
> >> >> etc. (everything which is new and not ready for production.
> >> >> I think it would be enough to have the up-to-date informations from the
> >> >> old site plus some more which are ready (or near ready) to speed things up.
> >> >>
> >> >> What do you think?
> >> >>
> >> >> Best regards,
> >> >>
> >> >> Michael Brohl
> >> >> ecomify GmbH
> >> >> www.ecomify.de
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Am 20.03.17 um 13:54 schrieb Sharan Foga:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Hi Everyone
> >> >>>
> >> >>> A quick update. I've created a new branch called under the branches
> >> >>> directory called ofbiz-new-website and have uploaded all the work done so
> >> >>> far on the new website structure and pages.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The plan is to complete the work in this branch and then copy it over to
> >> >>> the new site when we are ready. I think the content itself is the most
> >> >>> important so will continue to to tidy up and complete any missing pages or
> >> >>> information. It's in our repository now so hopefully more accessible to
> >> >>> people who want to help out.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I'd encourage you all to take a look at what has been done to so that I
> >> >>> can get some feedback of what people think of the general look and feel.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Once again – I'd like to thank Kenneth Paskett for helping out with the
> >> >>> graphics.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Thanks
> >> >>> Sharan
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
>

Re: New Website Branch Created

Posted by Pranay Pandey <pr...@hotwaxsystems.com>.
+1 Taher.

Best regards,
Pranay Pandey
www.hotwaxsystems.com
www.hotwax.co

On Wed, Jul 26, 2017 at 11:43 AM, Taher Alkhateeb <
slidingfilaments@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thank you very much Sharan. The website looks really beautiful! my
> recommendation is to go ahead and publish it immediately and we can
> start to fix things as we go.
>
> Some notes for things to work on later:
> - The three main pitches should be either without a link, or a link to
> relevant documentation (I'm referring to: "Powerful Java Web
> Framework", "Developer Friendly", etc ...)
> - The FAQ needs to be expanded, maybe we can get stuff from the
> original FAQ documentation after we clean it up [1]
> - We need to find a more appealing solution for the social media
> links. I believe they should be in the top as icons instead of links
> in the footer. I think the template used already has a solution for
> this but I need to review it at some point.
>
> [1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/FAQ+-
> +Tips+-+Tricks+-+Cookbook+-+HowTo
>
> On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Hi Everyone
> >
> > I've pretty much completed what I think could be an initial version of
> our new website so please feel free to take a look and let me have any
> feedback. (Just for info - all the pictures I've used are from Pixabay.com
> and are free to use and don't need any attribution)
> >
> > It would be good to have some sample OFBiz pictures (and community
> feedback supported this too - instead of the all generic ones) especially
> on the home page so I have contacted Kenneth Paskett who has helped with
> the graphic design so far, to ask for a little more help doing that.  So
> once that is done, pending any other feedback, I think we could be ready to
> publish.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Sharan
> >
> >
> > On 2017-06-25 18:54 (+0200), Taher Alkhateeb <sl...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> +1 for switching the website to the new one and completing it as we go.
> >>
> >> We should try to automate publishing the website. One solution is to
> >> publish the website as is. Another solution is to restructure the
> >> website so that only the "generated" stuff gets published to the
> >> server. So the directory structure could be something like the below.
> >> And then we can have commands like ./gradlew generateHtml or ./gradlew
> >> publishHtml
> >>
> >> website-project/
> >> ├── build.gradle
> >> ├── public
> >> │   ├── about-ofbiz.html
> >> │   ├── business-users.html
> >> │   ├── developers.html
> >> │   ├── bootstrap
> >> │   ├── css
> >> │   └── etc...
> >> └── template
> >>     ├── html.tpl.php
> >>     ├── page
> >>     │   ├── about-ofbiz.tpl.php
> >>     │   ├── business-users.tpl.php
> >>     │   ├── developers.tpl.php
> >>     │   └── etc ...
> >>     └── region
> >>         ├── footer.tpl.php
> >>         ├── header.tpl.php
> >>         ├── head.tpl.php
> >>         └── scripts.tpl.php
> >>
> >> On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 7:35 PM, Sharan Foga <sh...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >> > Hi Michael
> >> >
> >> > I like the idea (I'd been looking at an all or nothing approach :-)
> so just
> >> > putting the minimum we need live is OK with me. I have some changes in
> >> > progress for the main page, so will commit those tomorrow.
> Essentially I've
> >> > removed the bottom slider panel and instead added a section on OFBiz
> >> > Features, modules and benefits. I'll also take a look at the key
> pages and
> >> > update what I can.
> >> >
> >> > I'm not sure what to do about the php template conversion to html.
> I've been
> >> > doing it manually but it probably needs a script and I know we talked
> about
> >> > replacing the php templates with Freemarker ones but not sure how
> easy that
> >> > would be so ideas welcome.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> > Sharan
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > On 25/06/17 18:03, Michael Brohl wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> Hi Sharan,
> >> >>
> >> >> Taher gave me a hint on this topic so I had a look at the new
> website code
> >> >> and display. I like it and think we should put some effort  in this
> to get
> >> >> it ready for production.
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm thinking about leaving some of the new contents out of sight for
> the
> >> >> first release, namely the service providers page and "what customers
> said"
> >> >> etc. (everything which is new and not ready for production.
> >> >> I think it would be enough to have the up-to-date informations from
> the
> >> >> old site plus some more which are ready (or near ready) to speed
> things up.
> >> >>
> >> >> What do you think?
> >> >>
> >> >> Best regards,
> >> >>
> >> >> Michael Brohl
> >> >> ecomify GmbH
> >> >> www.ecomify.de
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Am 20.03.17 um 13:54 schrieb Sharan Foga:
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Hi Everyone
> >> >>>
> >> >>> A quick update. I've created a new branch called under the branches
> >> >>> directory called ofbiz-new-website and have uploaded all the work
> done so
> >> >>> far on the new website structure and pages.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> The plan is to complete the work in this branch and then copy it
> over to
> >> >>> the new site when we are ready. I think the content itself is the
> most
> >> >>> important so will continue to to tidy up and complete any missing
> pages or
> >> >>> information. It's in our repository now so hopefully more
> accessible to
> >> >>> people who want to help out.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> I'd encourage you all to take a look at what has been done to so
> that I
> >> >>> can get some feedback of what people think of the general look and
> feel.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Once again – I'd like to thank Kenneth Paskett for helping out
> with the
> >> >>> graphics.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Thanks
> >> >>> Sharan
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >
> >>
>

Re: New Website Branch Created

Posted by Taher Alkhateeb <sl...@gmail.com>.
Thank you very much Sharan. The website looks really beautiful! my
recommendation is to go ahead and publish it immediately and we can
start to fix things as we go.

Some notes for things to work on later:
- The three main pitches should be either without a link, or a link to
relevant documentation (I'm referring to: "Powerful Java Web
Framework", "Developer Friendly", etc ...)
- The FAQ needs to be expanded, maybe we can get stuff from the
original FAQ documentation after we clean it up [1]
- We need to find a more appealing solution for the social media
links. I believe they should be in the top as icons instead of links
in the footer. I think the template used already has a solution for
this but I need to review it at some point.

[1] https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/FAQ+-+Tips+-+Tricks+-+Cookbook+-+HowTo

On Tue, Jul 25, 2017 at 1:59 PM, Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi Everyone
>
> I've pretty much completed what I think could be an initial version of our new website so please feel free to take a look and let me have any feedback. (Just for info - all the pictures I've used are from Pixabay.com and are free to use and don't need any attribution)
>
> It would be good to have some sample OFBiz pictures (and community feedback supported this too - instead of the all generic ones) especially on the home page so I have contacted Kenneth Paskett who has helped with the graphic design so far, to ask for a little more help doing that.  So once that is done, pending any other feedback, I think we could be ready to publish.
>
> Thanks
> Sharan
>
>
> On 2017-06-25 18:54 (+0200), Taher Alkhateeb <sl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> +1 for switching the website to the new one and completing it as we go.
>>
>> We should try to automate publishing the website. One solution is to
>> publish the website as is. Another solution is to restructure the
>> website so that only the "generated" stuff gets published to the
>> server. So the directory structure could be something like the below.
>> And then we can have commands like ./gradlew generateHtml or ./gradlew
>> publishHtml
>>
>> website-project/
>> ├── build.gradle
>> ├── public
>> │   ├── about-ofbiz.html
>> │   ├── business-users.html
>> │   ├── developers.html
>> │   ├── bootstrap
>> │   ├── css
>> │   └── etc...
>> └── template
>>     ├── html.tpl.php
>>     ├── page
>>     │   ├── about-ofbiz.tpl.php
>>     │   ├── business-users.tpl.php
>>     │   ├── developers.tpl.php
>>     │   └── etc ...
>>     └── region
>>         ├── footer.tpl.php
>>         ├── header.tpl.php
>>         ├── head.tpl.php
>>         └── scripts.tpl.php
>>
>> On Sun, Jun 25, 2017 at 7:35 PM, Sharan Foga <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi Michael
>> >
>> > I like the idea (I'd been looking at an all or nothing approach :-) so just
>> > putting the minimum we need live is OK with me. I have some changes in
>> > progress for the main page, so will commit those tomorrow. Essentially I've
>> > removed the bottom slider panel and instead added a section on OFBiz
>> > Features, modules and benefits. I'll also take a look at the key pages and
>> > update what I can.
>> >
>> > I'm not sure what to do about the php template conversion to html. I've been
>> > doing it manually but it probably needs a script and I know we talked about
>> > replacing the php templates with Freemarker ones but not sure how easy that
>> > would be so ideas welcome.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > Sharan
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On 25/06/17 18:03, Michael Brohl wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hi Sharan,
>> >>
>> >> Taher gave me a hint on this topic so I had a look at the new website code
>> >> and display. I like it and think we should put some effort  in this to get
>> >> it ready for production.
>> >>
>> >> I'm thinking about leaving some of the new contents out of sight for the
>> >> first release, namely the service providers page and "what customers said"
>> >> etc. (everything which is new and not ready for production.
>> >> I think it would be enough to have the up-to-date informations from the
>> >> old site plus some more which are ready (or near ready) to speed things up.
>> >>
>> >> What do you think?
>> >>
>> >> Best regards,
>> >>
>> >> Michael Brohl
>> >> ecomify GmbH
>> >> www.ecomify.de
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Am 20.03.17 um 13:54 schrieb Sharan Foga:
>> >>>
>> >>> Hi Everyone
>> >>>
>> >>> A quick update. I've created a new branch called under the branches
>> >>> directory called ofbiz-new-website and have uploaded all the work done so
>> >>> far on the new website structure and pages.
>> >>>
>> >>> The plan is to complete the work in this branch and then copy it over to
>> >>> the new site when we are ready. I think the content itself is the most
>> >>> important so will continue to to tidy up and complete any missing pages or
>> >>> information. It's in our repository now so hopefully more accessible to
>> >>> people who want to help out.
>> >>>
>> >>> I'd encourage you all to take a look at what has been done to so that I
>> >>> can get some feedback of what people think of the general look and feel.
>> >>>
>> >>> Once again – I'd like to thank Kenneth Paskett for helping out with the
>> >>> graphics.
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks
>> >>> Sharan
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
>>