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Mac build of 1.4.x ?

Hi,

Does anyone know the status of Mac builds? Both the links on the  
downloads pages are stuck at 1.3.1 or earlier.

--Tim

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Re: Mac build of 1.4.x ?

Posted by Jeremy Pereira <je...@jeremyp.net>.
On 4 Nov 2006, at 23:24, Tim Hill wrote:

> I only wanted a client, so I just:
>
> -- Downloaded the stable 1.0.0 tar and expanded it using Finder
> -- Opened a terminal window and navigated to the subversion-1.4.0  
> folder
> -- ran ./configure with the defaults
> -- ran make
> -- ran sudo make install

That won't include Neon.  From the INSTALL file:

       If you're just installing a Subversion client, the Subversion
       team has created a package containing the minimal prerequisite
       libraries (Apache Portable Runtime, Neon, and Zlib) called the
       "dependency package" tarball or zipfile.  You should be able to
       find it at the same place that you downloaded the Subversion
       tarball itself from. (Note that this is new as of Subversion
       1.4.0; previous releases packaged the dependencies in the same
       tarball as Subversion itself.)  If you don't have these
       libraries installed already, you can simply unpack the
       dependency package "on top of" the Subversion package; for
       example, if you are using a .tar.gz bundle on Unix, you could
       type:

           $ tar xzvf subversion-1.x.x.tar.gz
           $ tar xzvf subversion-deps-1.x.x.tar.gz
           $ cd subversion-1.x.x



>
> There were a few complaints because of the lack of Apache, but the  
> client build was fine (it was all I wanted).
>
> --Tim
>
> On Nov 4, 2006, at 3:58 AM, Duncan Murdoch wrote:
>
>> On 11/4/2006 2:25 AM, Tim Hill wrote:
>>> Thanks to all for the suggestions. I bit the bullet and did my  
>>> own  build, which seems to be working fine. :-)
>>
>> Could you write up the details of what's changed since http:// 
>> developer.apple.com/tools/subversionxcode.html?
>>
>> And is it necessary to build Apache if I only want an http or  
>> https client, not a server?
>>
>> Duncan Murdoch
>>
>>> --Tim
>>> On Nov 2, 2006, at 1:13 PM, John Burwell wrote:
>>>> If you're referring to Matt Porter's builds at metissian.com, I   
>>>> suggest you drop him a note. All subversion binaries are  
>>>> maintained  by volunteers; the subversion project doesn't  
>>>> maintain any official  binaries.
>>>>
>>>> j
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 1, 2006, at 7:40 PM, Tim Hill wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone know the status of Mac builds? Both the links on  
>>>>> the  downloads pages are stuck at 1.3.1 or earlier.
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Re: Mac build of 1.4.x ?

Posted by Tim Hill <dr...@comcast.net>.
I only wanted a client, so I just:

-- Downloaded the stable 1.0.0 tar and expanded it using Finder
-- Opened a terminal window and navigated to the subversion-1.4.0 folder
-- ran ./configure with the defaults
-- ran make
-- ran sudo make install

There were a few complaints because of the lack of Apache, but the  
client build was fine (it was all I wanted).

--Tim

On Nov 4, 2006, at 3:58 AM, Duncan Murdoch wrote:

> On 11/4/2006 2:25 AM, Tim Hill wrote:
>> Thanks to all for the suggestions. I bit the bullet and did my  
>> own  build, which seems to be working fine. :-)
>
> Could you write up the details of what's changed since http:// 
> developer.apple.com/tools/subversionxcode.html?
>
> And is it necessary to build Apache if I only want an http or https  
> client, not a server?
>
> Duncan Murdoch
>
>> --Tim
>> On Nov 2, 2006, at 1:13 PM, John Burwell wrote:
>>> If you're referring to Matt Porter's builds at metissian.com, I   
>>> suggest you drop him a note. All subversion binaries are  
>>> maintained  by volunteers; the subversion project doesn't  
>>> maintain any official  binaries.
>>>
>>> j
>>>
>>> On Nov 1, 2006, at 7:40 PM, Tim Hill wrote:
>>>
>>>> Does anyone know the status of Mac builds? Both the links on  
>>>> the  downloads pages are stuck at 1.3.1 or earlier.
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Re: Mac build of 1.4.x ?

Posted by Tim Hill <dr...@comcast.net>.
As an fyi to others on this thread, I have since located a kind soul  
who does regular Mac OS X subversion builds, Martin Ott...

	http://www.codingmonkeys.de/mbo/articles

I have downloaded his builds and they work very well, nicely wrapped  
into Mac packages.

I don't know who maintains the Subversion downloads page, but I think  
it should be updated with a pointer to Martin's site (assuming he is  
happy with this, of course).

--Tim



On Nov 8, 2006, at 7:52 PM, Duncan Murdoch wrote:

> Ryan Schmidt wrote:
>> On Nov 4, 2006, at 17:05, Duncan Murdoch wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>> And is it necessary to build Apache if I only want an http or   
>>>>> https  client, not a server?
>>>>>
>>>> No, of course not. :) But you do need the Neon library, which    
>>>> Subversion uses to talk over http and https.
>>>>
>>> Does that come with Apache, is it already there on a Mac, or is   
>>> there another download necessary?
>>>
>>
>> It is not part of nor related to Apache; it's not already on a  
>> Mac;  you need to download it. As of Subversion 1.4.0, it's part  
>> of the  subversion-deps download:
>>
>> http://subversion.tigris.org/project_packages.html#source-release
>>
>> In Subversion 1.3.2 and before, I believe it was part of the  
>> regular  subversion package download.
> I finally got around to doing the build.  It went fairly smoothly,  
> though I was a little worried about repeated warnings from gcc:
>
> i686-apple-darwin8-gcc-4.0.3: unrecognized option '-no-cpp-precomp'
>
> Should I have done something differently when configuring to avoid  
> this?
>
> I used the options listed on the Apple Xcode page
>
> http://developer.apple.com/tools/subversionxcode.html
>
> except that I deleted the options relating to Apache, i.e. I used
>
> ./configure --prefix=/usr/local \
>    --mandir=/usr/local/share/man --with-ssl \
>    --with-zlib \
>    --enable-swig-bindings=no --without-berkeley-db
>
> I also added
>
> /usr/local/share/man
>
> to my MANPATH, but it's sort of useless:  the man pages mostly just  
> tell you to read the book.
>
>
> Duncan Murdoch
>
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Re: Mac build of 1.4.x ?

Posted by Duncan Murdoch <mu...@stats.uwo.ca>.
Ryan Schmidt wrote:
> On Nov 4, 2006, at 17:05, Duncan Murdoch wrote:
>
>   
>>>> And is it necessary to build Apache if I only want an http or  
>>>> https  client, not a server?
>>>>         
>>> No, of course not. :) But you do need the Neon library, which   
>>> Subversion uses to talk over http and https.
>>>       
>> Does that come with Apache, is it already there on a Mac, or is  
>> there another download necessary?
>>     
>
> It is not part of nor related to Apache; it's not already on a Mac;  
> you need to download it. As of Subversion 1.4.0, it's part of the  
> subversion-deps download:
>
> http://subversion.tigris.org/project_packages.html#source-release
>
> In Subversion 1.3.2 and before, I believe it was part of the regular  
> subversion package download.
I finally got around to doing the build.  It went fairly smoothly, 
though I was a little worried about repeated warnings from gcc:

i686-apple-darwin8-gcc-4.0.3: unrecognized option '-no-cpp-precomp'

Should I have done something differently when configuring to avoid this?

I used the options listed on the Apple Xcode page

http://developer.apple.com/tools/subversionxcode.html

except that I deleted the options relating to Apache, i.e. I used

./configure --prefix=/usr/local \
    --mandir=/usr/local/share/man --with-ssl \
    --with-zlib \
    --enable-swig-bindings=no --without-berkeley-db 


I also added

/usr/local/share/man

to my MANPATH, but it's sort of useless:  the man pages mostly just tell 
you to read the book.


Duncan Murdoch

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Re: Mac build of 1.4.x ?

Posted by Ryan Schmidt <su...@ryandesign.com>.
On Nov 4, 2006, at 17:05, Duncan Murdoch wrote:

>>> And is it necessary to build Apache if I only want an http or  
>>> https  client, not a server?
>>
>> No, of course not. :) But you do need the Neon library, which   
>> Subversion uses to talk over http and https.
>
> Does that come with Apache, is it already there on a Mac, or is  
> there another download necessary?

It is not part of nor related to Apache; it's not already on a Mac;  
you need to download it. As of Subversion 1.4.0, it's part of the  
subversion-deps download:

http://subversion.tigris.org/project_packages.html#source-release

In Subversion 1.3.2 and before, I believe it was part of the regular  
subversion package download.

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Re: Mac build of 1.4.x ?

Posted by Duncan Murdoch <mu...@stats.uwo.ca>.
On 11/4/2006 1:30 PM, Ryan Schmidt wrote:
> On Nov 4, 2006, at 05:58, Duncan Murdoch wrote:
> 
>> And is it necessary to build Apache if I only want an http or https  
>> client, not a server?
> 
> No, of course not. :) But you do need the Neon library, which  
> Subversion uses to talk over http and https.

Does that come with Apache, is it already there on a Mac, or is there 
another download necessary?

Duncan Murdoch


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Re: Mac build of 1.4.x ?

Posted by Ryan Schmidt <su...@ryandesign.com>.
On Nov 4, 2006, at 05:58, Duncan Murdoch wrote:

> And is it necessary to build Apache if I only want an http or https  
> client, not a server?

No, of course not. :) But you do need the Neon library, which  
Subversion uses to talk over http and https.


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Re: Mac build of 1.4.x ?

Posted by Duncan Murdoch <mu...@stats.uwo.ca>.
On 11/4/2006 2:25 AM, Tim Hill wrote:
> Thanks to all for the suggestions. I bit the bullet and did my own  
> build, which seems to be working fine. :-)

Could you write up the details of what's changed since 
http://developer.apple.com/tools/subversionxcode.html?

And is it necessary to build Apache if I only want an http or https 
client, not a server?

Duncan Murdoch

> --Tim
> 
> On Nov 2, 2006, at 1:13 PM, John Burwell wrote:
> 
>> If you're referring to Matt Porter's builds at metissian.com, I  
>> suggest you drop him a note. All subversion binaries are maintained  
>> by volunteers; the subversion project doesn't maintain any official  
>> binaries.
>>
>> j
>>
>> On Nov 1, 2006, at 7:40 PM, Tim Hill wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone know the status of Mac builds? Both the links on the  
>>> downloads pages are stuck at 1.3.1 or earlier.
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Re: Mac build of 1.4.x ?

Posted by Tim Hill <dr...@comcast.net>.
Thanks to all for the suggestions. I bit the bullet and did my own  
build, which seems to be working fine. :-)

--Tim

On Nov 2, 2006, at 1:13 PM, John Burwell wrote:

> If you're referring to Matt Porter's builds at metissian.com, I  
> suggest you drop him a note. All subversion binaries are maintained  
> by volunteers; the subversion project doesn't maintain any official  
> binaries.
>
> j
>
> On Nov 1, 2006, at 7:40 PM, Tim Hill wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know the status of Mac builds? Both the links on the  
>> downloads pages are stuck at 1.3.1 or earlier.
>
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Re: Mac build of 1.4.x ?

Posted by John Burwell <jo...@galvnews.com>.
If you're referring to Matt Porter's builds at metissian.com, I  
suggest you drop him a note. All subversion binaries are maintained  
by volunteers; the subversion project doesn't maintain any official  
binaries.

j

On Nov 1, 2006, at 7:40 PM, Tim Hill wrote:

> Does anyone know the status of Mac builds? Both the links on the  
> downloads pages are stuck at 1.3.1 or earlier.

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Re: Mac build of 1.4.x ?

Posted by Andy Peters <de...@latke.net>.
On Nov 1, 2006, at 11:29 PM, Andy Peters wrote:

> On Nov 1, 2006, at 7:40 PM, Tim Hill wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know the status of Mac builds? Both the links on the  
>> downloads pages are stuck at 1.3.1 or earlier.
>
> Build it yourself:
>
> http://developer.apple.com/tools/subversionxcode.html
>
> Substitute subversion 1.4.0 and apache 2.2.3.  It works for me.
>
> (NB: I can't get the WebSVN to work because I can't get the PHP  
> stuff to work.)

Replying to myself: I got WebSVN working last night.  The various PHP  
scripts in ht_docs were owned by root:wheel but httpd runs as  
svnowner:svnowner.  chown-ing the files to svnowner:svnowner did the  
trick.  Not at all obvious.

-a

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Re: Mac build of 1.4.x ?

Posted by Blair Zajac <bl...@orcaware.com>.
It's easier just to use MacPorts to build the subversion and the  
subversion-javahlbindings ports which will do all the work for you.

My normal sets are

port -v test subversion
port -v install subversion
port -v test subversion-javahlbindings
port -v install subversion-javahlbindings

This way you also test the build.

Regards,
Blair

-- 
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http://www.orcaware.com/svn/

On Nov 2, 2006, at 5:14 AM, Bradley Wagner wrote:

> Yeah, building it is pretty easy. Plus, it lets you put the install  
> where you want to. One note of caution. If you think you're going  
> to need the java bindings for any reason (you use Subclispe, etc.)  
> read this first: http://www.oreillynet.com/lpt/wlg/5210
>
> On Nov 2, 2006, at 1:29 AM, Andy Peters wrote:
>
>> On Nov 1, 2006, at 7:40 PM, Tim Hill wrote:
>>
>>> Does anyone know the status of Mac builds? Both the links on the  
>>> downloads pages are stuck at 1.3.1 or earlier.
>>
>> Build it yourself:
>>
>> http://developer.apple.com/tools/subversionxcode.html
>>
>> Substitute subversion 1.4.0 and apache 2.2.3.  It works for me.
>>
>> (NB: I can't get the WebSVN to work because I can't get the PHP  
>> stuff to work.)
>>
>> -a
>>
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Re: Mac build of 1.4.x ?

Posted by Bradley Wagner <br...@hannonhill.com>.
Yeah, building it is pretty easy. Plus, it lets you put the install  
where you want to. One note of caution. If you think you're going to  
need the java bindings for any reason (you use Subclispe, etc.) read  
this first: http://www.oreillynet.com/lpt/wlg/5210

On Nov 2, 2006, at 1:29 AM, Andy Peters wrote:

> On Nov 1, 2006, at 7:40 PM, Tim Hill wrote:
>
>> Does anyone know the status of Mac builds? Both the links on the  
>> downloads pages are stuck at 1.3.1 or earlier.
>
> Build it yourself:
>
> http://developer.apple.com/tools/subversionxcode.html
>
> Substitute subversion 1.4.0 and apache 2.2.3.  It works for me.
>
> (NB: I can't get the WebSVN to work because I can't get the PHP  
> stuff to work.)
>
> -a
>
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Re: Mac build of 1.4.x ?

Posted by Andy Peters <de...@latke.net>.
On Nov 1, 2006, at 7:40 PM, Tim Hill wrote:

> Does anyone know the status of Mac builds? Both the links on the  
> downloads pages are stuck at 1.3.1 or earlier.

Build it yourself:

http://developer.apple.com/tools/subversionxcode.html

Substitute subversion 1.4.0 and apache 2.2.3.  It works for me.

(NB: I can't get the WebSVN to work because I can't get the PHP stuff  
to work.)

-a

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Re: Mac build of 1.4.x ?

Posted by Bradley Wagner <br...@hannonhill.com>.
From what I've heard, you have to go get the port on codingmonkeys  
or one of the other sites as Metissian is no longer updating theirs.

On Nov 1, 2006, at 9:40 PM, Tim Hill wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Does anyone know the status of Mac builds? Both the links on the  
> downloads pages are stuck at 1.3.1 or earlier.
>
> --Tim
>
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AW: Mac build of 1.4.x ?

Posted by Felix Gilcher <gi...@exozet.com>.
Tim Hill <ma...@comcast.net> schrieb am Donnerstag, 2. November 2006 03:40:

> Hi,
> 
> Does anyone know the status of Mac builds? Both the links on the
> downloads pages are stuck at 1.3.1 or earlier.

you might want to try macports (http://www.macports.org/), a port of the *BSD port repository to macos. Installing subversion with port works like a charm, if you know your way around on the shell at least a little. 

> 
> --Tim
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regards

felix

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