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Re: com/oracle/ojdbc14 where are Oracle driver jars?
Any follow up on this ?
SiSi'mon wrote:
>
> I spoke with Oracle and they said in order for anyone to distribute the
> jars, an agreement is needed from the distributor as a vendor.
>
> I don't have the details yet on what the receiver of the jars may need to
> agree to or sign but hope there is a way around this.
>
> Thanks
>
>
> Si'mon
>
>
> Carlos Sanchez-4 wrote:
>>
>> it would be the Apache Maven PMC but I'm pretty sure it won't be possible
>> AFAIK They require explicit agreement of the license from people
>> downloading it which is something maven can't do yet
>>
>> On 6/1/07, SiSi'mon <s_...@purpleblade.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Yea, I thought of this but it seemed like more trouble than it is worth
>>> and I
>>> even worked at Oracle and know people there. My first attempt will be
>>> to
>>> get the Maven team to sign some paper allowing them to post the jars and
>>> then work on Oracle.
>>>
>>> Who do I talk to at maven.org?
>>>
>>>
>>> Si'mon
>>>
>>>
>>> Wayne Fay wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Another reasonable question is why does Oracle not simply set up a
>>> > Maven repo to host their files, like JBoss and Sun etc have already
>>> > done? Or even better, why doesn't someone from Oracle contact the
>>> > Maven dev team and ask them to pretty please, with sugar on top, host
>>> > these files so our customers will receive this great benefit with very
>>> > little effort on the part of Oracle?
>>> >
>>> > Wayne
>>> >
>>> > On 6/1/07, SiSi'mon <s_...@purpleblade.net> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> Oracle simply requires an agreement to distribute the jars (or put on
>>> a
>>> >> public repository). I am wondering why Apache Maven VIP's could not
>>> sign
>>> >> the agreement and distribute them from the repo1 repository.
>>> >>
>>> >> Any idea who I could be put in touch with to do this? I have copies
>>> of
>>> >> the
>>> >> documents and contacts on the way to help get this in the queue.
>>> These
>>> >> are
>>> >> widely used jars and would save a lot of people a lot of time.
>>> >>
>>> >> thanks
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Si'mon
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Wayne Fay wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > If you plan to distribute Oracle's proprietary jars etc, make sure
>>> you
>>> >> > have the proper licensing etc necessary to do so.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > (These issues are exactly why these jars are not already available
>>> in
>>> >> > the Maven repo.)
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Wayne
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On 5/31/07, Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> >> On 5/31/07, SiSi'mon <s_...@purpleblade.net> wrote:
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Yes, we have already done this (downloaded an put in local
>>> >> repository)
>>> >> >> and
>>> >> >> > internally we are doing this in development. But we do not have
>>> the
>>> >> >> ability
>>> >> >> > to serve as a Maven2 repository to customers we ship to so when
>>> they
>>> >> >> run the
>>> >> >> > installer it will need to fetch the Oracle jars from somewhere.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > suggestions would be appreciated. We may need to ship the
>>> actual
>>> >> .jar
>>> >> >> in
>>> >> >> > the release and somehow tell maven to look at the lib/*.jars
>>> instead
>>> >> of
>>> >> >> > trying to fetch it from a repository.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Maven can use filesystem based repositories (with file:// urls).
>>> You
>>> >> >> could create the repository structure as part of your build, add a
>>> >> >> <repository> element pointing to it to the pom, and then the build
>>> >> >> should work. I saw this done once... I think it was in the Celtix
>>> >> >> project.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> --
>>> >> >> Wendy
>>> >> >>
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Re: com/oracle/ojdbc14 where are Oracle driver jars?
Posted by Wayne Fay <wa...@gmail.com>.
It would certainly be nice if Oracle would copy similar moves by Sun,
JBoss, etc and make their own repository where they could host various
artifacts such as these. (Assuming of course their own licensing etc
would permit such an approach.)
Of course, Sun and JBoss are just hosting open source jars (CDDL and
GPL etc), so it is probably not worth holding your breath waiting for
Oracle to do this, considering it seems unlikely that they will open
source the Oracle driver jars any time soon. (Although in my opinion
this seems like a very reasonable thing to do, but what do I know...)
Wayne
On 5/16/08, Dan Tran <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I wished the pom should never have been there at the first place. Too
> many repeated discussions of this matter and
> no results :-)
>
> -D
>
> On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 1:38 PM, mfs <fa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > yeah..thats what i plan to do, but i wish oracle (being such a big share
> > holder in the industry) realize that exposing these as maven-ized jars would
> > really save the extra effort people have to put in, in maintaining these
> > jars locally.
> >
> > I wish they had given more weight to the problem.
> >
> > Farhan.
> >
> >
> >
> > Wendy Smoak-3 wrote:
> >>
> >> On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 8:06 PM, mfs <fa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Any follow up on this ?
> >>
> >> AFAIK, no one is working on it. The Oracle client/driver jars are
> >> unlikely to be available in a public repository any time soon, unless
> >> Oracle changes the license to make it possible to distribute them
> >> without jumping through legal hoops.
> >>
> >> You can establish a private/internal repository for your team to use,
> >> or provide instructions for your developers to download and install
> >> the jars into their local repo.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Wendy
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Re: com/oracle/ojdbc14 where are Oracle driver jars?
Posted by Dan Tran <da...@gmail.com>.
I wished the pom should never have been there at the first place. Too
many repeated discussions of this matter and
no results :-)
-D
On Fri, May 16, 2008 at 1:38 PM, mfs <fa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> yeah..thats what i plan to do, but i wish oracle (being such a big share
> holder in the industry) realize that exposing these as maven-ized jars would
> really save the extra effort people have to put in, in maintaining these
> jars locally.
>
> I wish they had given more weight to the problem.
>
> Farhan.
>
>
>
> Wendy Smoak-3 wrote:
>>
>> On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 8:06 PM, mfs <fa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Any follow up on this ?
>>
>> AFAIK, no one is working on it. The Oracle client/driver jars are
>> unlikely to be available in a public repository any time soon, unless
>> Oracle changes the license to make it possible to distribute them
>> without jumping through legal hoops.
>>
>> You can establish a private/internal repository for your team to use,
>> or provide instructions for your developers to download and install
>> the jars into their local repo.
>>
>> --
>> Wendy
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Re: com/oracle/ojdbc14 where are Oracle driver jars?
Posted by mfs <fa...@gmail.com>.
yeah..thats what i plan to do, but i wish oracle (being such a big share
holder in the industry) realize that exposing these as maven-ized jars would
really save the extra effort people have to put in, in maintaining these
jars locally.
I wish they had given more weight to the problem.
Farhan.
Wendy Smoak-3 wrote:
>
> On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 8:06 PM, mfs <fa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Any follow up on this ?
>
> AFAIK, no one is working on it. The Oracle client/driver jars are
> unlikely to be available in a public repository any time soon, unless
> Oracle changes the license to make it possible to distribute them
> without jumping through legal hoops.
>
> You can establish a private/internal repository for your team to use,
> or provide instructions for your developers to download and install
> the jars into their local repo.
>
> --
> Wendy
>
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Re: com/oracle/ojdbc14 where are Oracle driver jars?
Posted by Wendy Smoak <ws...@gmail.com>.
On Thu, May 15, 2008 at 8:06 PM, mfs <fa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Any follow up on this ?
AFAIK, no one is working on it. The Oracle client/driver jars are
unlikely to be available in a public repository any time soon, unless
Oracle changes the license to make it possible to distribute them
without jumping through legal hoops.
You can establish a private/internal repository for your team to use,
or provide instructions for your developers to download and install
the jars into their local repo.
--
Wendy
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