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[PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
Hi All,
I'd propose we start a new component called "Apache Commons JUnit".
The goal would be to gather useful and reusable code like JUnit rules.
This component would be focused on JUnit 4.x only.
For example: org.apache.commons.collections4.junit.SetDefaultLocaleTestRule
I have other rules stashed here and there as well, for example a Set
Default Charset Rule.
Thoughts?
Gary
Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
Posted by Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>.
[PROPOSAL REDUX]
Component Name: Apache Commons Testing
A multi-module project focused on providing code for testing applications
using various testing frameworks with an initial focus on JUnit 4.
Modules:
commons-testing: no dependencies, contains code like to list all non-daemon
threads after a test run (to see there is no resource leak) can be used
independent of the Unit Test Framework (as proposed by Oliver Heger.)
commons-testing-junit4: Depends on JUnit 4.12 only and provides code based
on JUnit 4 like JUnit "Rule"s.
SCM: Git.
Cut a 1.0-alpha1 from the above.
Gary
On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 5:11 PM, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I'd propose we start a new component called "Apache Commons JUnit".
>
> The goal would be to gather useful and reusable code like JUnit rules.
>
> This component would be focused on JUnit 4.x only.
>
> For example: org.apache.commons.collections4.junit.
> SetDefaultLocaleTestRule
>
> I have other rules stashed here and there as well, for example a Set
> Default Charset Rule.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Gary
>
>
Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
Posted by Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 5:35 AM, Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 03/11/17 23:11, Gary Gregory wrote:
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I'd propose we start a new component called "Apache Commons JUnit".
>
> -1 on the name. It is infringing.
>
> "Apache Commons Tools for JUnit" would be fine. As would any similar
> construction.
>
OK, I'm not a fan of "tools", which for me would be command-line things;
how about"
- "Apache Commons for JUnit"
- "Apache Commons Add-ons for JUnit"
- "Apache Commons Extras for JUnit"
- ?
Gary
>
>
> > The goal would be to gather useful and reusable code like JUnit rules.
> >
> > This component would be focused on JUnit 4.x only.
> >
> > For example: org.apache.commons.collections4.junit.
> SetDefaultLocaleTestRule
> >
> > I have other rules stashed here and there as well, for example a Set
> > Default Charset Rule.
> >
> > Thoughts?
>
> No views either way on the rest of the proposal.
>
> Mark
>
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
Posted by Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>.
On 03/11/17 23:11, Gary Gregory wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I'd propose we start a new component called "Apache Commons JUnit".
-1 on the name. It is infringing.
"Apache Commons Tools for JUnit" would be fine. As would any similar
construction.
> The goal would be to gather useful and reusable code like JUnit rules.
>
> This component would be focused on JUnit 4.x only.
>
> For example: org.apache.commons.collections4.junit.SetDefaultLocaleTestRule
>
> I have other rules stashed here and there as well, for example a Set
> Default Charset Rule.
>
> Thoughts?
No views either way on the rest of the proposal.
Mark
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AW: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
Posted by "Jan Matèrne (jhm)" <ap...@materne.de>.
+1.
But when we want to support JUnit4, JUnit5 and AssertJ maybe we could call that "Apache Commons Test" with three components.
Jan
> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: Romain Manni-Bucau [mailto:rmannibucau@gmail.com]
> Gesendet: Samstag, 4. November 2017 08:45
> An: Bruno P. Kinoshita; Commons Developers List
> Betreff: Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
>
> Looks like a good idea but wonder if it fits commons. I kind of see a
> lot of modules already so maybe incubator?
>
> Ps: if interesting I m happy to give
> https://github.com/rmannibucau/rule-them-all and help integrating it
> with
> junit5 too
>
>
> Le 4 nov. 2017 05:45, "Bruno P. Kinoshita"
> <br...@yahoo.com.br.invalid> a écrit :
>
> > +1 for the idea and for looking at JUnit 5.x and maybe AssertJ.
> > CheersBruno
> >
> > From: Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
> > To: Commons Developers List <de...@commons.apache.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, 4 November 2017 1:44 PM
> > Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
> >
> > I certainly like the idea, especially if the docs are good about
> > pulling in other related dependencies to complement the whole thing.
> > General resource management rules would be great, though, like the
> ones we have in Log4j.
> >
> > Also, I haven't looked closely at it yet, but supporting JUnit 5.x as
> > well would be nice.
> >
> > On 3 November 2017 at 18:11, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > I'd propose we start a new component called "Apache Commons JUnit".
> > >
> > > The goal would be to gather useful and reusable code like JUnit
> rules.
> > >
> > > This component would be focused on JUnit 4.x only.
> > >
> > > For example: org.apache.commons.collections4.junit.
> > > SetDefaultLocaleTestRule
> > >
> > > I have other rules stashed here and there as well, for example a
> Set
> > > Default Charset Rule.
> > >
> > > Thoughts?
> > >
> > > Gary
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
Posted by Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 1:44 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Looks like a good idea but wonder if it fits commons. I kind of see a lot
> of modules already so maybe incubator?
>
> Ps: if interesting I m happy to give
> https://github.com/rmannibucau/rule-them-all and help integrating it with
> junit5 too
>
Thank you for pointing out your work.
I think we are going toward are multi-module project if only to manage
dependencies. I would not want to depend on commons-testing only to have a
ton of jars dragged in, optional or not. But I could see bringing in
commons-testing-ftp-server.
Gary
>
>
> Le 4 nov. 2017 05:45, "Bruno P. Kinoshita"
> <br...@yahoo.com.br.invalid> a écrit :
>
> > +1 for the idea and for looking at JUnit 5.x and maybe AssertJ.
> > CheersBruno
> >
> > From: Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
> > To: Commons Developers List <de...@commons.apache.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, 4 November 2017 1:44 PM
> > Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
> >
> > I certainly like the idea, especially if the docs are good about pulling
> in
> > other related dependencies to complement the whole thing. General
> resource
> > management rules would be great, though, like the ones we have in Log4j.
> >
> > Also, I haven't looked closely at it yet, but supporting JUnit 5.x as
> well
> > would be nice.
> >
> > On 3 November 2017 at 18:11, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > I'd propose we start a new component called "Apache Commons JUnit".
> > >
> > > The goal would be to gather useful and reusable code like JUnit rules.
> > >
> > > This component would be focused on JUnit 4.x only.
> > >
> > > For example: org.apache.commons.collections4.junit.
> > > SetDefaultLocaleTestRule
> > >
> > > I have other rules stashed here and there as well, for example a Set
> > > Default Charset Rule.
> > >
> > > Thoughts?
> > >
> > > Gary
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
> >
> >
> >
>
Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
Posted by Rob Tompkins <ch...@gmail.com>.
+1. Seems like a good plan.
> On Nov 4, 2017, at 3:44 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Looks like a good idea but wonder if it fits commons. I kind of see a lot
> of modules already so maybe incubator?
>
> Ps: if interesting I m happy to give
> https://github.com/rmannibucau/rule-them-all and help integrating it with
> junit5 too
>
>
> Le 4 nov. 2017 05:45, "Bruno P. Kinoshita"
> <br...@yahoo.com.br.invalid> a écrit :
>
>> +1 for the idea and for looking at JUnit 5.x and maybe AssertJ.
>> CheersBruno
>>
>> From: Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
>> To: Commons Developers List <de...@commons.apache.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, 4 November 2017 1:44 PM
>> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
>>
>> I certainly like the idea, especially if the docs are good about pulling in
>> other related dependencies to complement the whole thing. General resource
>> management rules would be great, though, like the ones we have in Log4j.
>>
>> Also, I haven't looked closely at it yet, but supporting JUnit 5.x as well
>> would be nice.
>>
>>> On 3 November 2017 at 18:11, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I'd propose we start a new component called "Apache Commons JUnit".
>>>
>>> The goal would be to gather useful and reusable code like JUnit rules.
>>>
>>> This component would be focused on JUnit 4.x only.
>>>
>>> For example: org.apache.commons.collections4.junit.
>>> SetDefaultLocaleTestRule
>>>
>>> I have other rules stashed here and there as well, for example a Set
>>> Default Charset Rule.
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
Looks like a good idea but wonder if it fits commons. I kind of see a lot
of modules already so maybe incubator?
Ps: if interesting I m happy to give
https://github.com/rmannibucau/rule-them-all and help integrating it with
junit5 too
Le 4 nov. 2017 05:45, "Bruno P. Kinoshita"
<br...@yahoo.com.br.invalid> a écrit :
> +1 for the idea and for looking at JUnit 5.x and maybe AssertJ.
> CheersBruno
>
> From: Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
> To: Commons Developers List <de...@commons.apache.org>
> Sent: Saturday, 4 November 2017 1:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
>
> I certainly like the idea, especially if the docs are good about pulling in
> other related dependencies to complement the whole thing. General resource
> management rules would be great, though, like the ones we have in Log4j.
>
> Also, I haven't looked closely at it yet, but supporting JUnit 5.x as well
> would be nice.
>
> On 3 November 2017 at 18:11, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I'd propose we start a new component called "Apache Commons JUnit".
> >
> > The goal would be to gather useful and reusable code like JUnit rules.
> >
> > This component would be focused on JUnit 4.x only.
> >
> > For example: org.apache.commons.collections4.junit.
> > SetDefaultLocaleTestRule
> >
> > I have other rules stashed here and there as well, for example a Set
> > Default Charset Rule.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > Gary
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
>
>
>
Re: AW: [PROPOSAL][test] Apache Commons JUnit
Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
@Mark: this is already not the case and users are used to gather them
putside Junit. Also it is pby as true as saying it would be easier to push
commons in openjdk directly no?
I see a lot of values to have a uniform backbone - rule API - and making it
easy to reuse accross test stacks so commons testing really makes sense for
me on the long term even if v1 target junit 4 only.
Le 5 nov. 2017 21:21, "Mark Fortner" <ph...@gmail.com> a écrit :
Just out of curiosity, wouldn't it be easier (and more intuitive) for users
of JUnit to find a collection of JUnit-related tools on the JUnit project
site?
Regards,
Mark
On 5 Nov 2017 11:51 a.m., "Romain Manni-Bucau" <rm...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> This is a bit different since my case was to get annoutput of where a test
> can lock and not a diff. But technically it is close.
>
> Le 5 nov. 2017 20:21, "Bernd Eckenfels" <ec...@zusammenkunft.net> a écrit :
>
> > Hello,
> >
> >
> > commons-vfs does this (at the Moment it only dumps the threads and does
> > not break the build)
> >
> > https://github.com/apache/commons-vfs/blob/trunk/
> > commons-vfs2/src/test/java/org/apache/commons/vfs2/test/
> > AbstractTestSuite.java#L213
> >
> >
> > Gruss
> > Bernd
> > --
> > http://bernd.eckenfels.net
> >
> > Von: Romain Manni-Bucau
> > Gesendet: Sonntag, 5. November 2017 16:31
> > An: Commons Developers List
> > Betreff: Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
> >
> > This daemon thing is interesting, I something similar to dump each N
> > seconds threads to investigate some tests locking on a CI. Can goes
> > there as well probably.
> >
> > Romain Manni-Bucau
> > @rmannibucau | Blog | Old Blog | Github | LinkedIn
> >
> >
> > 2017-11-05 16:23 GMT+01:00 Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>:
> > > On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> So are you advocating for a multi-module project?
> > >>
> > >> - commons-testing
> > >> - commons-testing-junit4
> > >> - commons-testing-junit5
> > >>
> > >> ?
> > >>
> > >> Gary
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Bernd Eckenfels <
> > ecki@zusammenkunft.net>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I like the idea (and prefer Commons Testing), for example a method
to
> > >>> list all non-daemon threads after a test run (to see there is no
> > resource
> > >>> leak) can be used independent of the Unit Test Framework.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > > Do you have such a gadget?
> > >
> > > Gary
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >>> Gruss
> > >>> Bernd
> > >>> --
> > >>> http://bernd.eckenfels.net
> > >>> ________________________________
> > >>> From: Hasan Diwan <ha...@gmail.com>
> > >>> Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 5:42:39 PM
> > >>> To: Commons Developers List
> > >>> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
> > >>>
> > >>> How about "Apache Commons Testing"? -- H
> > >>>
> > >>> On 4 November 2017 at 09:10, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> > On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 9:32 AM, Pascal Schumacher <
> > >>> > pascalschumacher@gmx.net>
> > >>> > wrote:
> > >>> >
> > >>> > > JUnit 5 is not backwards compatible (Package/Annotation-Names
> have
> > >>> > > changed, Rules were replaced by a new extension model), but it
> can
> > run
> > >>> > > JUnit 3 and JUnit 4 Tests if you add an additional dependency.
> See
> > >>> > > http://junit.org/junit5/docs/current/user-guide/#migrating-f
> > >>> rom-junit4
> > >>> > > for details.
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > OK, so "Apache Commons Extras for Junit 4"
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Gary
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Am 04.11.2017 um 15:53 schrieb Gary Gregory:
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >> I am assuming that JUnit 5 will be backward compatible with
> JUnit
> > 4,
> > >>> I
> > >>> > >> might be wrong. I'd like to focus on a single dependency for
now
> > >>> (JUnit)
> > >>> > >> and not do a multi-module project. If someone want to do the
> same
> > for
> > >>> > >> TestNG, then have at it. KISS and small for 1.0.
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >> Gary
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >> On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 10:41 PM, Bruno P. Kinoshita <
> > >>> > >> brunodepaulak@yahoo.com.br.invalid> wrote:
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >> +1 for the idea and for looking at JUnit 5.x and maybe AssertJ.
> > >>> > >>> CheersBruno
> > >>> > >>>
> > >>> > >>> From: Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
> > >>> > >>> To: Commons Developers List <de...@commons.apache.org>
> > >>> > >>> Sent: Saturday, 4 November 2017 1:44 PM
> > >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
> > >>> > >>>
> > >>> > >>> I certainly like the idea, especially if the docs are good
> about
> > >>> > pulling
> > >>> > >>> in
> > >>> > >>> other related dependencies to complement the whole thing.
> General
> > >>> > >>> resource
> > >>> > >>> management rules would be great, though, like the ones we have
> in
> > >>> > Log4j.
> > >>> > >>>
> > >>> > >>> Also, I haven't looked closely at it yet, but supporting JUnit
> > 5.x
> > >>> as
> > >>> > >>> well
> > >>> > >>> would be nice.
> > >>> > >>>
> > >>> > >>> On 3 November 2017 at 18:11, Gary Gregory <
> > garydgregory@gmail.com>
> > >>> > >>> wrote:
> > >>> > >>>
> > >>> > >>> Hi All,
> > >>> > >>>>
> > >>> > >>>> I'd propose we start a new component called "Apache Commons
> > JUnit".
> > >>> > >>>>
> > >>> > >>>> The goal would be to gather useful and reusable code like
> JUnit
> > >>> rules.
> > >>> > >>>>
> > >>> > >>>> This component would be focused on JUnit 4.x only.
> > >>> > >>>>
> > >>> > >>>> For example: org.apache.commons.collections4.junit.
> > >>> > >>>> SetDefaultLocaleTestRule
> > >>> > >>>>
> > >>> > >>>> I have other rules stashed here and there as well, for
> example a
> > >>> Set
> > >>> > >>>> Default Charset Rule.
> > >>> > >>>>
> > >>> > >>>> Thoughts?
> > >>> > >>>>
> > >>> > >>>> Gary
> > >>> > >>>>
> > >>> > >>>>
> > >>> > >>>
> > >>> > >>> --
> > >>> > >>> Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
> > >>> > >>>
> > >>> > >>>
> > >>> > >>>
> > >>> > >>>
> > >>> > >>>
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Re: AW: [PROPOSAL][test] Apache Commons JUnit
Posted by Mark Fortner <ph...@gmail.com>.
Just out of curiosity, wouldn't it be easier (and more intuitive) for users
of JUnit to find a collection of JUnit-related tools on the JUnit project
site?
Regards,
Mark
On 5 Nov 2017 11:51 a.m., "Romain Manni-Bucau" <rm...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> This is a bit different since my case was to get annoutput of where a test
> can lock and not a diff. But technically it is close.
>
> Le 5 nov. 2017 20:21, "Bernd Eckenfels" <ec...@zusammenkunft.net> a écrit :
>
> > Hello,
> >
> >
> > commons-vfs does this (at the Moment it only dumps the threads and does
> > not break the build)
> >
> > https://github.com/apache/commons-vfs/blob/trunk/
> > commons-vfs2/src/test/java/org/apache/commons/vfs2/test/
> > AbstractTestSuite.java#L213
> >
> >
> > Gruss
> > Bernd
> > --
> > http://bernd.eckenfels.net
> >
> > Von: Romain Manni-Bucau
> > Gesendet: Sonntag, 5. November 2017 16:31
> > An: Commons Developers List
> > Betreff: Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
> >
> > This daemon thing is interesting, I something similar to dump each N
> > seconds threads to investigate some tests locking on a CI. Can goes
> > there as well probably.
> >
> > Romain Manni-Bucau
> > @rmannibucau | Blog | Old Blog | Github | LinkedIn
> >
> >
> > 2017-11-05 16:23 GMT+01:00 Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>:
> > > On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > >> So are you advocating for a multi-module project?
> > >>
> > >> - commons-testing
> > >> - commons-testing-junit4
> > >> - commons-testing-junit5
> > >>
> > >> ?
> > >>
> > >> Gary
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Bernd Eckenfels <
> > ecki@zusammenkunft.net>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I like the idea (and prefer Commons Testing), for example a method to
> > >>> list all non-daemon threads after a test run (to see there is no
> > resource
> > >>> leak) can be used independent of the Unit Test Framework.
> > >>>
> > >>
> > > Do you have such a gadget?
> > >
> > > Gary
> > >
> > >
> > >>
> > >>> Gruss
> > >>> Bernd
> > >>> --
> > >>> http://bernd.eckenfels.net
> > >>> ________________________________
> > >>> From: Hasan Diwan <ha...@gmail.com>
> > >>> Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 5:42:39 PM
> > >>> To: Commons Developers List
> > >>> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
> > >>>
> > >>> How about "Apache Commons Testing"? -- H
> > >>>
> > >>> On 4 November 2017 at 09:10, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> > On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 9:32 AM, Pascal Schumacher <
> > >>> > pascalschumacher@gmx.net>
> > >>> > wrote:
> > >>> >
> > >>> > > JUnit 5 is not backwards compatible (Package/Annotation-Names
> have
> > >>> > > changed, Rules were replaced by a new extension model), but it
> can
> > run
> > >>> > > JUnit 3 and JUnit 4 Tests if you add an additional dependency.
> See
> > >>> > > http://junit.org/junit5/docs/current/user-guide/#migrating-f
> > >>> rom-junit4
> > >>> > > for details.
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > OK, so "Apache Commons Extras for Junit 4"
> > >>> >
> > >>> > Gary
> > >>> >
> > >>> >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > > Am 04.11.2017 um 15:53 schrieb Gary Gregory:
> > >>> > >
> > >>> > >> I am assuming that JUnit 5 will be backward compatible with
> JUnit
> > 4,
> > >>> I
> > >>> > >> might be wrong. I'd like to focus on a single dependency for now
> > >>> (JUnit)
> > >>> > >> and not do a multi-module project. If someone want to do the
> same
> > for
> > >>> > >> TestNG, then have at it. KISS and small for 1.0.
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >> Gary
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >> On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 10:41 PM, Bruno P. Kinoshita <
> > >>> > >> brunodepaulak@yahoo.com.br.invalid> wrote:
> > >>> > >>
> > >>> > >> +1 for the idea and for looking at JUnit 5.x and maybe AssertJ.
> > >>> > >>> CheersBruno
> > >>> > >>>
> > >>> > >>> From: Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
> > >>> > >>> To: Commons Developers List <de...@commons.apache.org>
> > >>> > >>> Sent: Saturday, 4 November 2017 1:44 PM
> > >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
> > >>> > >>>
> > >>> > >>> I certainly like the idea, especially if the docs are good
> about
> > >>> > pulling
> > >>> > >>> in
> > >>> > >>> other related dependencies to complement the whole thing.
> General
> > >>> > >>> resource
> > >>> > >>> management rules would be great, though, like the ones we have
> in
> > >>> > Log4j.
> > >>> > >>>
> > >>> > >>> Also, I haven't looked closely at it yet, but supporting JUnit
> > 5.x
> > >>> as
> > >>> > >>> well
> > >>> > >>> would be nice.
> > >>> > >>>
> > >>> > >>> On 3 November 2017 at 18:11, Gary Gregory <
> > garydgregory@gmail.com>
> > >>> > >>> wrote:
> > >>> > >>>
> > >>> > >>> Hi All,
> > >>> > >>>>
> > >>> > >>>> I'd propose we start a new component called "Apache Commons
> > JUnit".
> > >>> > >>>>
> > >>> > >>>> The goal would be to gather useful and reusable code like
> JUnit
> > >>> rules.
> > >>> > >>>>
> > >>> > >>>> This component would be focused on JUnit 4.x only.
> > >>> > >>>>
> > >>> > >>>> For example: org.apache.commons.collections4.junit.
> > >>> > >>>> SetDefaultLocaleTestRule
> > >>> > >>>>
> > >>> > >>>> I have other rules stashed here and there as well, for
> example a
> > >>> Set
> > >>> > >>>> Default Charset Rule.
> > >>> > >>>>
> > >>> > >>>> Thoughts?
> > >>> > >>>>
> > >>> > >>>> Gary
> > >>> > >>>>
> > >>> > >>>>
> > >>> > >>>
> > >>> > >>> --
> > >>> > >>> Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
> > >>> > >>>
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Re: AW: [PROPOSAL][test] Apache Commons JUnit
Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
This is a bit different since my case was to get annoutput of where a test
can lock and not a diff. But technically it is close.
Le 5 nov. 2017 20:21, "Bernd Eckenfels" <ec...@zusammenkunft.net> a écrit :
> Hello,
>
>
> commons-vfs does this (at the Moment it only dumps the threads and does
> not break the build)
>
> https://github.com/apache/commons-vfs/blob/trunk/
> commons-vfs2/src/test/java/org/apache/commons/vfs2/test/
> AbstractTestSuite.java#L213
>
>
> Gruss
> Bernd
> --
> http://bernd.eckenfels.net
>
> Von: Romain Manni-Bucau
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 5. November 2017 16:31
> An: Commons Developers List
> Betreff: Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
>
> This daemon thing is interesting, I something similar to dump each N
> seconds threads to investigate some tests locking on a CI. Can goes
> there as well probably.
>
> Romain Manni-Bucau
> @rmannibucau | Blog | Old Blog | Github | LinkedIn
>
>
> 2017-11-05 16:23 GMT+01:00 Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>:
> > On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> So are you advocating for a multi-module project?
> >>
> >> - commons-testing
> >> - commons-testing-junit4
> >> - commons-testing-junit5
> >>
> >> ?
> >>
> >> Gary
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Bernd Eckenfels <
> ecki@zusammenkunft.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I like the idea (and prefer Commons Testing), for example a method to
> >>> list all non-daemon threads after a test run (to see there is no
> resource
> >>> leak) can be used independent of the Unit Test Framework.
> >>>
> >>
> > Do you have such a gadget?
> >
> > Gary
> >
> >
> >>
> >>> Gruss
> >>> Bernd
> >>> --
> >>> http://bernd.eckenfels.net
> >>> ________________________________
> >>> From: Hasan Diwan <ha...@gmail.com>
> >>> Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 5:42:39 PM
> >>> To: Commons Developers List
> >>> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
> >>>
> >>> How about "Apache Commons Testing"? -- H
> >>>
> >>> On 4 November 2017 at 09:10, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 9:32 AM, Pascal Schumacher <
> >>> > pascalschumacher@gmx.net>
> >>> > wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > > JUnit 5 is not backwards compatible (Package/Annotation-Names have
> >>> > > changed, Rules were replaced by a new extension model), but it can
> run
> >>> > > JUnit 3 and JUnit 4 Tests if you add an additional dependency. See
> >>> > > http://junit.org/junit5/docs/current/user-guide/#migrating-f
> >>> rom-junit4
> >>> > > for details.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > OK, so "Apache Commons Extras for Junit 4"
> >>> >
> >>> > Gary
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Am 04.11.2017 um 15:53 schrieb Gary Gregory:
> >>> > >
> >>> > >> I am assuming that JUnit 5 will be backward compatible with JUnit
> 4,
> >>> I
> >>> > >> might be wrong. I'd like to focus on a single dependency for now
> >>> (JUnit)
> >>> > >> and not do a multi-module project. If someone want to do the same
> for
> >>> > >> TestNG, then have at it. KISS and small for 1.0.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Gary
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 10:41 PM, Bruno P. Kinoshita <
> >>> > >> brunodepaulak@yahoo.com.br.invalid> wrote:
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> +1 for the idea and for looking at JUnit 5.x and maybe AssertJ.
> >>> > >>> CheersBruno
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> From: Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
> >>> > >>> To: Commons Developers List <de...@commons.apache.org>
> >>> > >>> Sent: Saturday, 4 November 2017 1:44 PM
> >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> I certainly like the idea, especially if the docs are good about
> >>> > pulling
> >>> > >>> in
> >>> > >>> other related dependencies to complement the whole thing. General
> >>> > >>> resource
> >>> > >>> management rules would be great, though, like the ones we have in
> >>> > Log4j.
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> Also, I haven't looked closely at it yet, but supporting JUnit
> 5.x
> >>> as
> >>> > >>> well
> >>> > >>> would be nice.
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> On 3 November 2017 at 18:11, Gary Gregory <
> garydgregory@gmail.com>
> >>> > >>> wrote:
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> Hi All,
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>> I'd propose we start a new component called "Apache Commons
> JUnit".
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>> The goal would be to gather useful and reusable code like JUnit
> >>> rules.
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>> This component would be focused on JUnit 4.x only.
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>> For example: org.apache.commons.collections4.junit.
> >>> > >>>> SetDefaultLocaleTestRule
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>> I have other rules stashed here and there as well, for example a
> >>> Set
> >>> > >>>> Default Charset Rule.
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>> Thoughts?
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>> Gary
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> --
> >>> > >>> Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >
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> ---------
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AW: [PROPOSAL][test] Apache Commons JUnit
Posted by Bernd Eckenfels <ec...@zusammenkunft.net>.
Hello,
commons-vfs does this (at the Moment it only dumps the threads and does not break the build)
https://github.com/apache/commons-vfs/blob/trunk/commons-vfs2/src/test/java/org/apache/commons/vfs2/test/AbstractTestSuite.java#L213
Gruss
Bernd
--
http://bernd.eckenfels.net
Von: Romain Manni-Bucau
Gesendet: Sonntag, 5. November 2017 16:31
An: Commons Developers List
Betreff: Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
This daemon thing is interesting, I something similar to dump each N
seconds threads to investigate some tests locking on a CI. Can goes
there as well probably.
Romain Manni-Bucau
@rmannibucau | Blog | Old Blog | Github | LinkedIn
2017-11-05 16:23 GMT+01:00 Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>:
> On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> So are you advocating for a multi-module project?
>>
>> - commons-testing
>> - commons-testing-junit4
>> - commons-testing-junit5
>>
>> ?
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Bernd Eckenfels <ec...@zusammenkunft.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I like the idea (and prefer Commons Testing), for example a method to
>>> list all non-daemon threads after a test run (to see there is no resource
>>> leak) can be used independent of the Unit Test Framework.
>>>
>>
> Do you have such a gadget?
>
> Gary
>
>
>>
>>> Gruss
>>> Bernd
>>> --
>>> http://bernd.eckenfels.net
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Hasan Diwan <ha...@gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 5:42:39 PM
>>> To: Commons Developers List
>>> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
>>>
>>> How about "Apache Commons Testing"? -- H
>>>
>>> On 4 November 2017 at 09:10, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 9:32 AM, Pascal Schumacher <
>>> > pascalschumacher@gmx.net>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > JUnit 5 is not backwards compatible (Package/Annotation-Names have
>>> > > changed, Rules were replaced by a new extension model), but it can run
>>> > > JUnit 3 and JUnit 4 Tests if you add an additional dependency. See
>>> > > http://junit.org/junit5/docs/current/user-guide/#migrating-f
>>> rom-junit4
>>> > > for details.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > OK, so "Apache Commons Extras for Junit 4"
>>> >
>>> > Gary
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > Am 04.11.2017 um 15:53 schrieb Gary Gregory:
>>> > >
>>> > >> I am assuming that JUnit 5 will be backward compatible with JUnit 4,
>>> I
>>> > >> might be wrong. I'd like to focus on a single dependency for now
>>> (JUnit)
>>> > >> and not do a multi-module project. If someone want to do the same for
>>> > >> TestNG, then have at it. KISS and small for 1.0.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Gary
>>> > >>
>>> > >> On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 10:41 PM, Bruno P. Kinoshita <
>>> > >> brunodepaulak@yahoo.com.br.invalid> wrote:
>>> > >>
>>> > >> +1 for the idea and for looking at JUnit 5.x and maybe AssertJ.
>>> > >>> CheersBruno
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> From: Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
>>> > >>> To: Commons Developers List <de...@commons.apache.org>
>>> > >>> Sent: Saturday, 4 November 2017 1:44 PM
>>> > >>> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> I certainly like the idea, especially if the docs are good about
>>> > pulling
>>> > >>> in
>>> > >>> other related dependencies to complement the whole thing. General
>>> > >>> resource
>>> > >>> management rules would be great, though, like the ones we have in
>>> > Log4j.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> Also, I haven't looked closely at it yet, but supporting JUnit 5.x
>>> as
>>> > >>> well
>>> > >>> would be nice.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> On 3 November 2017 at 18:11, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>
>>> > >>> wrote:
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> Hi All,
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> I'd propose we start a new component called "Apache Commons JUnit".
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> The goal would be to gather useful and reusable code like JUnit
>>> rules.
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> This component would be focused on JUnit 4.x only.
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> For example: org.apache.commons.collections4.junit.
>>> > >>>> SetDefaultLocaleTestRule
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> I have other rules stashed here and there as well, for example a
>>> Set
>>> > >>>> Default Charset Rule.
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> Thoughts?
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> Gary
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> --
>>> > >>> Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
Posted by Jörg Schaible <jo...@bpm-inspire.com>.
Am Sun, 05 Nov 2017 08:43:06 -0700 schrieb Gary Gregory:
> It sounds like we all like the idea of this new component. I'll create
> the git repo tonight or by tomorrow morning at the latest.
Hehe, it seems this idea pops up every decade ...
http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/commons/dormant/test/
That TLP never got anywhere though.
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
Posted by Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>.
It sounds like we all like the idea of this new component. I'll create the
git repo tonight or by tomorrow morning at the latest.
Gary
On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 8:30 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> This daemon thing is interesting, I something similar to dump each N
> seconds threads to investigate some tests locking on a CI. Can goes
> there as well probably.
>
> Romain Manni-Bucau
> @rmannibucau | Blog | Old Blog | Github | LinkedIn
>
>
> 2017-11-05 16:23 GMT+01:00 Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>:
> > On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> So are you advocating for a multi-module project?
> >>
> >> - commons-testing
> >> - commons-testing-junit4
> >> - commons-testing-junit5
> >>
> >> ?
> >>
> >> Gary
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Bernd Eckenfels <
> ecki@zusammenkunft.net>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I like the idea (and prefer Commons Testing), for example a method to
> >>> list all non-daemon threads after a test run (to see there is no
> resource
> >>> leak) can be used independent of the Unit Test Framework.
> >>>
> >>
> > Do you have such a gadget?
> >
> > Gary
> >
> >
> >>
> >>> Gruss
> >>> Bernd
> >>> --
> >>> http://bernd.eckenfels.net
> >>> ________________________________
> >>> From: Hasan Diwan <ha...@gmail.com>
> >>> Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 5:42:39 PM
> >>> To: Commons Developers List
> >>> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
> >>>
> >>> How about "Apache Commons Testing"? -- H
> >>>
> >>> On 4 November 2017 at 09:10, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 9:32 AM, Pascal Schumacher <
> >>> > pascalschumacher@gmx.net>
> >>> > wrote:
> >>> >
> >>> > > JUnit 5 is not backwards compatible (Package/Annotation-Names have
> >>> > > changed, Rules were replaced by a new extension model), but it can
> run
> >>> > > JUnit 3 and JUnit 4 Tests if you add an additional dependency. See
> >>> > > http://junit.org/junit5/docs/current/user-guide/#migrating-f
> >>> rom-junit4
> >>> > > for details.
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > OK, so "Apache Commons Extras for Junit 4"
> >>> >
> >>> > Gary
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Am 04.11.2017 um 15:53 schrieb Gary Gregory:
> >>> > >
> >>> > >> I am assuming that JUnit 5 will be backward compatible with JUnit
> 4,
> >>> I
> >>> > >> might be wrong. I'd like to focus on a single dependency for now
> >>> (JUnit)
> >>> > >> and not do a multi-module project. If someone want to do the same
> for
> >>> > >> TestNG, then have at it. KISS and small for 1.0.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Gary
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 10:41 PM, Bruno P. Kinoshita <
> >>> > >> brunodepaulak@yahoo.com.br.invalid> wrote:
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> +1 for the idea and for looking at JUnit 5.x and maybe AssertJ.
> >>> > >>> CheersBruno
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> From: Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
> >>> > >>> To: Commons Developers List <de...@commons.apache.org>
> >>> > >>> Sent: Saturday, 4 November 2017 1:44 PM
> >>> > >>> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> I certainly like the idea, especially if the docs are good about
> >>> > pulling
> >>> > >>> in
> >>> > >>> other related dependencies to complement the whole thing. General
> >>> > >>> resource
> >>> > >>> management rules would be great, though, like the ones we have in
> >>> > Log4j.
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> Also, I haven't looked closely at it yet, but supporting JUnit
> 5.x
> >>> as
> >>> > >>> well
> >>> > >>> would be nice.
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> On 3 November 2017 at 18:11, Gary Gregory <
> garydgregory@gmail.com>
> >>> > >>> wrote:
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> Hi All,
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>> I'd propose we start a new component called "Apache Commons
> JUnit".
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>> The goal would be to gather useful and reusable code like JUnit
> >>> rules.
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>> This component would be focused on JUnit 4.x only.
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>> For example: org.apache.commons.collections4.junit.
> >>> > >>>> SetDefaultLocaleTestRule
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>> I have other rules stashed here and there as well, for example a
> >>> Set
> >>> > >>>> Default Charset Rule.
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>> Thoughts?
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>> Gary
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>> --
> >>> > >>> Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >>>
> >>> > >
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
This daemon thing is interesting, I something similar to dump each N
seconds threads to investigate some tests locking on a CI. Can goes
there as well probably.
Romain Manni-Bucau
@rmannibucau | Blog | Old Blog | Github | LinkedIn
2017-11-05 16:23 GMT+01:00 Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>:
> On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> So are you advocating for a multi-module project?
>>
>> - commons-testing
>> - commons-testing-junit4
>> - commons-testing-junit5
>>
>> ?
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Bernd Eckenfels <ec...@zusammenkunft.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I like the idea (and prefer Commons Testing), for example a method to
>>> list all non-daemon threads after a test run (to see there is no resource
>>> leak) can be used independent of the Unit Test Framework.
>>>
>>
> Do you have such a gadget?
>
> Gary
>
>
>>
>>> Gruss
>>> Bernd
>>> --
>>> http://bernd.eckenfels.net
>>> ________________________________
>>> From: Hasan Diwan <ha...@gmail.com>
>>> Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 5:42:39 PM
>>> To: Commons Developers List
>>> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
>>>
>>> How about "Apache Commons Testing"? -- H
>>>
>>> On 4 November 2017 at 09:10, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> > On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 9:32 AM, Pascal Schumacher <
>>> > pascalschumacher@gmx.net>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > JUnit 5 is not backwards compatible (Package/Annotation-Names have
>>> > > changed, Rules were replaced by a new extension model), but it can run
>>> > > JUnit 3 and JUnit 4 Tests if you add an additional dependency. See
>>> > > http://junit.org/junit5/docs/current/user-guide/#migrating-f
>>> rom-junit4
>>> > > for details.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > OK, so "Apache Commons Extras for Junit 4"
>>> >
>>> > Gary
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > Am 04.11.2017 um 15:53 schrieb Gary Gregory:
>>> > >
>>> > >> I am assuming that JUnit 5 will be backward compatible with JUnit 4,
>>> I
>>> > >> might be wrong. I'd like to focus on a single dependency for now
>>> (JUnit)
>>> > >> and not do a multi-module project. If someone want to do the same for
>>> > >> TestNG, then have at it. KISS and small for 1.0.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Gary
>>> > >>
>>> > >> On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 10:41 PM, Bruno P. Kinoshita <
>>> > >> brunodepaulak@yahoo.com.br.invalid> wrote:
>>> > >>
>>> > >> +1 for the idea and for looking at JUnit 5.x and maybe AssertJ.
>>> > >>> CheersBruno
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> From: Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
>>> > >>> To: Commons Developers List <de...@commons.apache.org>
>>> > >>> Sent: Saturday, 4 November 2017 1:44 PM
>>> > >>> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> I certainly like the idea, especially if the docs are good about
>>> > pulling
>>> > >>> in
>>> > >>> other related dependencies to complement the whole thing. General
>>> > >>> resource
>>> > >>> management rules would be great, though, like the ones we have in
>>> > Log4j.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> Also, I haven't looked closely at it yet, but supporting JUnit 5.x
>>> as
>>> > >>> well
>>> > >>> would be nice.
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> On 3 November 2017 at 18:11, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>
>>> > >>> wrote:
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> Hi All,
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> I'd propose we start a new component called "Apache Commons JUnit".
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> The goal would be to gather useful and reusable code like JUnit
>>> rules.
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> This component would be focused on JUnit 4.x only.
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> For example: org.apache.commons.collections4.junit.
>>> > >>>> SetDefaultLocaleTestRule
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> I have other rules stashed here and there as well, for example a
>>> Set
>>> > >>>> Default Charset Rule.
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> Thoughts?
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>> Gary
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>> --
>>> > >>> Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
>>> > >>>
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
Posted by Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> So are you advocating for a multi-module project?
>
> - commons-testing
> - commons-testing-junit4
> - commons-testing-junit5
>
> ?
>
> Gary
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Bernd Eckenfels <ec...@zusammenkunft.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I like the idea (and prefer Commons Testing), for example a method to
>> list all non-daemon threads after a test run (to see there is no resource
>> leak) can be used independent of the Unit Test Framework.
>>
>
Do you have such a gadget?
Gary
>
>> Gruss
>> Bernd
>> --
>> http://bernd.eckenfels.net
>> ________________________________
>> From: Hasan Diwan <ha...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 5:42:39 PM
>> To: Commons Developers List
>> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
>>
>> How about "Apache Commons Testing"? -- H
>>
>> On 4 November 2017 at 09:10, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 9:32 AM, Pascal Schumacher <
>> > pascalschumacher@gmx.net>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > JUnit 5 is not backwards compatible (Package/Annotation-Names have
>> > > changed, Rules were replaced by a new extension model), but it can run
>> > > JUnit 3 and JUnit 4 Tests if you add an additional dependency. See
>> > > http://junit.org/junit5/docs/current/user-guide/#migrating-f
>> rom-junit4
>> > > for details.
>> >
>> >
>> > OK, so "Apache Commons Extras for Junit 4"
>> >
>> > Gary
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Am 04.11.2017 um 15:53 schrieb Gary Gregory:
>> > >
>> > >> I am assuming that JUnit 5 will be backward compatible with JUnit 4,
>> I
>> > >> might be wrong. I'd like to focus on a single dependency for now
>> (JUnit)
>> > >> and not do a multi-module project. If someone want to do the same for
>> > >> TestNG, then have at it. KISS and small for 1.0.
>> > >>
>> > >> Gary
>> > >>
>> > >> On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 10:41 PM, Bruno P. Kinoshita <
>> > >> brunodepaulak@yahoo.com.br.invalid> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> +1 for the idea and for looking at JUnit 5.x and maybe AssertJ.
>> > >>> CheersBruno
>> > >>>
>> > >>> From: Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
>> > >>> To: Commons Developers List <de...@commons.apache.org>
>> > >>> Sent: Saturday, 4 November 2017 1:44 PM
>> > >>> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
>> > >>>
>> > >>> I certainly like the idea, especially if the docs are good about
>> > pulling
>> > >>> in
>> > >>> other related dependencies to complement the whole thing. General
>> > >>> resource
>> > >>> management rules would be great, though, like the ones we have in
>> > Log4j.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Also, I haven't looked closely at it yet, but supporting JUnit 5.x
>> as
>> > >>> well
>> > >>> would be nice.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On 3 November 2017 at 18:11, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>
>> > >>> wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Hi All,
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> I'd propose we start a new component called "Apache Commons JUnit".
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> The goal would be to gather useful and reusable code like JUnit
>> rules.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> This component would be focused on JUnit 4.x only.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> For example: org.apache.commons.collections4.junit.
>> > >>>> SetDefaultLocaleTestRule
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> I have other rules stashed here and there as well, for example a
>> Set
>> > >>>> Default Charset Rule.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Thoughts?
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Gary
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> --
>> > >>> Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >
>> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org
>> > > For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@commons.apache.org
>> > >
>> > >
>> >
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
Posted by Bernd Eckenfels <ec...@zusammenkunft.net>.
Hello,
I would try to stick with a single artifact with optional dependencies to the Frameworks supported. If the Project becomes too specific/cumbersome in Terms of dependencies we might turn it into a Multi module build with a common and Framework specific part.
But my comment was more about the Name and the Mission and less about the maven structure.
Gruss
Bernd
Von: Gary Gregory
Gesendet: Samstag, 4. November 2017 18:12
An: Commons Developers List
Betreff: Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
So are you advocating for a multi-module project?
- commons-testing
- commons-testing-junit4
- commons-testing-junit5
?
Gary
On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Bernd Eckenfels <ec...@zusammenkunft.net>
wrote:
> I like the idea (and prefer Commons Testing), for example a method to list
> all non-daemon threads after a test run (to see there is no resource leak)
> can be used independent of the Unit Test Framework.
>
> Gruss
> Bernd
> --
> http://bernd.eckenfels.net
> ________________________________
> From: Hasan Diwan <ha...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 5:42:39 PM
> To: Commons Developers List
> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
>
> How about "Apache Commons Testing"? -- H
>
> On 4 November 2017 at 09:10, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 9:32 AM, Pascal Schumacher <
> > pascalschumacher@gmx.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > JUnit 5 is not backwards compatible (Package/Annotation-Names have
> > > changed, Rules were replaced by a new extension model), but it can run
> > > JUnit 3 and JUnit 4 Tests if you add an additional dependency. See
> > > http://junit.org/junit5/docs/current/user-guide/#migrating-from-junit4
> > > for details.
> >
> >
> > OK, so "Apache Commons Extras for Junit 4"
> >
> > Gary
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Am 04.11.2017 um 15:53 schrieb Gary Gregory:
> > >
> > >> I am assuming that JUnit 5 will be backward compatible with JUnit 4, I
> > >> might be wrong. I'd like to focus on a single dependency for now
> (JUnit)
> > >> and not do a multi-module project. If someone want to do the same for
> > >> TestNG, then have at it. KISS and small for 1.0.
> > >>
> > >> Gary
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 10:41 PM, Bruno P. Kinoshita <
> > >> brunodepaulak@yahoo.com.br.invalid> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> +1 for the idea and for looking at JUnit 5.x and maybe AssertJ.
> > >>> CheersBruno
> > >>>
> > >>> From: Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
> > >>> To: Commons Developers List <de...@commons.apache.org>
> > >>> Sent: Saturday, 4 November 2017 1:44 PM
> > >>> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
> > >>>
> > >>> I certainly like the idea, especially if the docs are good about
> > pulling
> > >>> in
> > >>> other related dependencies to complement the whole thing. General
> > >>> resource
> > >>> management rules would be great, though, like the ones we have in
> > Log4j.
> > >>>
> > >>> Also, I haven't looked closely at it yet, but supporting JUnit 5.x as
> > >>> well
> > >>> would be nice.
> > >>>
> > >>> On 3 November 2017 at 18:11, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Hi All,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I'd propose we start a new component called "Apache Commons JUnit".
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The goal would be to gather useful and reusable code like JUnit
> rules.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> This component would be focused on JUnit 4.x only.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> For example: org.apache.commons.collections4.junit.
> > >>>> SetDefaultLocaleTestRule
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I have other rules stashed here and there as well, for example a Set
> > >>>> Default Charset Rule.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thoughts?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Gary
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >
> > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> > >
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
+ commons-testing-testng probably
Romain Manni-Bucau
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2017-11-04 18:12 GMT+01:00 Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>:
> So are you advocating for a multi-module project?
>
> - commons-testing
> - commons-testing-junit4
> - commons-testing-junit5
>
> ?
>
> Gary
>
>
> On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Bernd Eckenfels <ec...@zusammenkunft.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I like the idea (and prefer Commons Testing), for example a method to list
>> all non-daemon threads after a test run (to see there is no resource leak)
>> can be used independent of the Unit Test Framework.
>>
>> Gruss
>> Bernd
>> --
>> http://bernd.eckenfels.net
>> ________________________________
>> From: Hasan Diwan <ha...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 5:42:39 PM
>> To: Commons Developers List
>> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
>>
>> How about "Apache Commons Testing"? -- H
>>
>> On 4 November 2017 at 09:10, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> > On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 9:32 AM, Pascal Schumacher <
>> > pascalschumacher@gmx.net>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > JUnit 5 is not backwards compatible (Package/Annotation-Names have
>> > > changed, Rules were replaced by a new extension model), but it can run
>> > > JUnit 3 and JUnit 4 Tests if you add an additional dependency. See
>> > > http://junit.org/junit5/docs/current/user-guide/#migrating-from-junit4
>> > > for details.
>> >
>> >
>> > OK, so "Apache Commons Extras for Junit 4"
>> >
>> > Gary
>> >
>> >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > Am 04.11.2017 um 15:53 schrieb Gary Gregory:
>> > >
>> > >> I am assuming that JUnit 5 will be backward compatible with JUnit 4, I
>> > >> might be wrong. I'd like to focus on a single dependency for now
>> (JUnit)
>> > >> and not do a multi-module project. If someone want to do the same for
>> > >> TestNG, then have at it. KISS and small for 1.0.
>> > >>
>> > >> Gary
>> > >>
>> > >> On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 10:41 PM, Bruno P. Kinoshita <
>> > >> brunodepaulak@yahoo.com.br.invalid> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> +1 for the idea and for looking at JUnit 5.x and maybe AssertJ.
>> > >>> CheersBruno
>> > >>>
>> > >>> From: Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
>> > >>> To: Commons Developers List <de...@commons.apache.org>
>> > >>> Sent: Saturday, 4 November 2017 1:44 PM
>> > >>> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
>> > >>>
>> > >>> I certainly like the idea, especially if the docs are good about
>> > pulling
>> > >>> in
>> > >>> other related dependencies to complement the whole thing. General
>> > >>> resource
>> > >>> management rules would be great, though, like the ones we have in
>> > Log4j.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Also, I haven't looked closely at it yet, but supporting JUnit 5.x as
>> > >>> well
>> > >>> would be nice.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On 3 November 2017 at 18:11, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>
>> > >>> wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Hi All,
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> I'd propose we start a new component called "Apache Commons JUnit".
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> The goal would be to gather useful and reusable code like JUnit
>> rules.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> This component would be focused on JUnit 4.x only.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> For example: org.apache.commons.collections4.junit.
>> > >>>> SetDefaultLocaleTestRule
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> I have other rules stashed here and there as well, for example a Set
>> > >>>> Default Charset Rule.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Thoughts?
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Gary
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> --
>> > >>> Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >
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>> > >
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
Posted by Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>.
So are you advocating for a multi-module project?
- commons-testing
- commons-testing-junit4
- commons-testing-junit5
?
Gary
On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 10:58 AM, Bernd Eckenfels <ec...@zusammenkunft.net>
wrote:
> I like the idea (and prefer Commons Testing), for example a method to list
> all non-daemon threads after a test run (to see there is no resource leak)
> can be used independent of the Unit Test Framework.
>
> Gruss
> Bernd
> --
> http://bernd.eckenfels.net
> ________________________________
> From: Hasan Diwan <ha...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 5:42:39 PM
> To: Commons Developers List
> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
>
> How about "Apache Commons Testing"? -- H
>
> On 4 November 2017 at 09:10, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 9:32 AM, Pascal Schumacher <
> > pascalschumacher@gmx.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > JUnit 5 is not backwards compatible (Package/Annotation-Names have
> > > changed, Rules were replaced by a new extension model), but it can run
> > > JUnit 3 and JUnit 4 Tests if you add an additional dependency. See
> > > http://junit.org/junit5/docs/current/user-guide/#migrating-from-junit4
> > > for details.
> >
> >
> > OK, so "Apache Commons Extras for Junit 4"
> >
> > Gary
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Am 04.11.2017 um 15:53 schrieb Gary Gregory:
> > >
> > >> I am assuming that JUnit 5 will be backward compatible with JUnit 4, I
> > >> might be wrong. I'd like to focus on a single dependency for now
> (JUnit)
> > >> and not do a multi-module project. If someone want to do the same for
> > >> TestNG, then have at it. KISS and small for 1.0.
> > >>
> > >> Gary
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 10:41 PM, Bruno P. Kinoshita <
> > >> brunodepaulak@yahoo.com.br.invalid> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> +1 for the idea and for looking at JUnit 5.x and maybe AssertJ.
> > >>> CheersBruno
> > >>>
> > >>> From: Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
> > >>> To: Commons Developers List <de...@commons.apache.org>
> > >>> Sent: Saturday, 4 November 2017 1:44 PM
> > >>> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
> > >>>
> > >>> I certainly like the idea, especially if the docs are good about
> > pulling
> > >>> in
> > >>> other related dependencies to complement the whole thing. General
> > >>> resource
> > >>> management rules would be great, though, like the ones we have in
> > Log4j.
> > >>>
> > >>> Also, I haven't looked closely at it yet, but supporting JUnit 5.x as
> > >>> well
> > >>> would be nice.
> > >>>
> > >>> On 3 November 2017 at 18:11, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Hi All,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I'd propose we start a new component called "Apache Commons JUnit".
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The goal would be to gather useful and reusable code like JUnit
> rules.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> This component would be focused on JUnit 4.x only.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> For example: org.apache.commons.collections4.junit.
> > >>>> SetDefaultLocaleTestRule
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I have other rules stashed here and there as well, for example a Set
> > >>>> Default Charset Rule.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thoughts?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Gary
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
Posted by Oliver Heger <ol...@oliver-heger.de>.
On 04.11.2017 17:58, Bernd Eckenfels wrote:
> I like the idea (and prefer Commons Testing), for example a method to list all non-daemon threads after a test run (to see there is no resource leak) can be used independent of the Unit Test Framework.
We already had a Commons Test project. It has been moved to dormant, but
is not explicitly listed: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/commons/dormant/test/
I also like the idea and would prefer a broader scope with
general-purpose utilities for unit tests.
Oliver
>
> Gruss
> Bernd
> --
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> ________________________________
> From: Hasan Diwan <ha...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 5:42:39 PM
> To: Commons Developers List
> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
>
> How about "Apache Commons Testing"? -- H
>
> On 4 November 2017 at 09:10, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 9:32 AM, Pascal Schumacher <
>> pascalschumacher@gmx.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> JUnit 5 is not backwards compatible (Package/Annotation-Names have
>>> changed, Rules were replaced by a new extension model), but it can run
>>> JUnit 3 and JUnit 4 Tests if you add an additional dependency. See
>>> http://junit.org/junit5/docs/current/user-guide/#migrating-from-junit4
>>> for details.
>>
>>
>> OK, so "Apache Commons Extras for Junit 4"
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 04.11.2017 um 15:53 schrieb Gary Gregory:
>>>
>>>> I am assuming that JUnit 5 will be backward compatible with JUnit 4, I
>>>> might be wrong. I'd like to focus on a single dependency for now (JUnit)
>>>> and not do a multi-module project. If someone want to do the same for
>>>> TestNG, then have at it. KISS and small for 1.0.
>>>>
>>>> Gary
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 10:41 PM, Bruno P. Kinoshita <
>>>> brunodepaulak@yahoo.com.br.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> +1 for the idea and for looking at JUnit 5.x and maybe AssertJ.
>>>>> CheersBruno
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
>>>>> To: Commons Developers List <de...@commons.apache.org>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, 4 November 2017 1:44 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
>>>>>
>>>>> I certainly like the idea, especially if the docs are good about
>> pulling
>>>>> in
>>>>> other related dependencies to complement the whole thing. General
>>>>> resource
>>>>> management rules would be great, though, like the ones we have in
>> Log4j.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also, I haven't looked closely at it yet, but supporting JUnit 5.x as
>>>>> well
>>>>> would be nice.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3 November 2017 at 18:11, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd propose we start a new component called "Apache Commons JUnit".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The goal would be to gather useful and reusable code like JUnit rules.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This component would be focused on JUnit 4.x only.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For example: org.apache.commons.collections4.junit.
>>>>>> SetDefaultLocaleTestRule
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have other rules stashed here and there as well, for example a Set
>>>>>> Default Charset Rule.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
Posted by Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>.
+1 for a name like Commons Testing
On 4 November 2017 at 11:58, Bernd Eckenfels <ec...@zusammenkunft.net> wrote:
> I like the idea (and prefer Commons Testing), for example a method to list
> all non-daemon threads after a test run (to see there is no resource leak)
> can be used independent of the Unit Test Framework.
>
> Gruss
> Bernd
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> Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 5:42:39 PM
> To: Commons Developers List
> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
>
> How about "Apache Commons Testing"? -- H
>
> On 4 November 2017 at 09:10, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 9:32 AM, Pascal Schumacher <
> > pascalschumacher@gmx.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > JUnit 5 is not backwards compatible (Package/Annotation-Names have
> > > changed, Rules were replaced by a new extension model), but it can run
> > > JUnit 3 and JUnit 4 Tests if you add an additional dependency. See
> > > http://junit.org/junit5/docs/current/user-guide/#migrating-from-junit4
> > > for details.
> >
> >
> > OK, so "Apache Commons Extras for Junit 4"
> >
> > Gary
> >
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > Am 04.11.2017 um 15:53 schrieb Gary Gregory:
> > >
> > >> I am assuming that JUnit 5 will be backward compatible with JUnit 4, I
> > >> might be wrong. I'd like to focus on a single dependency for now
> (JUnit)
> > >> and not do a multi-module project. If someone want to do the same for
> > >> TestNG, then have at it. KISS and small for 1.0.
> > >>
> > >> Gary
> > >>
> > >> On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 10:41 PM, Bruno P. Kinoshita <
> > >> brunodepaulak@yahoo.com.br.invalid> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> +1 for the idea and for looking at JUnit 5.x and maybe AssertJ.
> > >>> CheersBruno
> > >>>
> > >>> From: Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
> > >>> To: Commons Developers List <de...@commons.apache.org>
> > >>> Sent: Saturday, 4 November 2017 1:44 PM
> > >>> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
> > >>>
> > >>> I certainly like the idea, especially if the docs are good about
> > pulling
> > >>> in
> > >>> other related dependencies to complement the whole thing. General
> > >>> resource
> > >>> management rules would be great, though, like the ones we have in
> > Log4j.
> > >>>
> > >>> Also, I haven't looked closely at it yet, but supporting JUnit 5.x as
> > >>> well
> > >>> would be nice.
> > >>>
> > >>> On 3 November 2017 at 18:11, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> Hi All,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I'd propose we start a new component called "Apache Commons JUnit".
> > >>>>
> > >>>> The goal would be to gather useful and reusable code like JUnit
> rules.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> This component would be focused on JUnit 4.x only.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> For example: org.apache.commons.collections4.junit.
> > >>>> SetDefaultLocaleTestRule
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I have other rules stashed here and there as well, for example a Set
> > >>>> Default Charset Rule.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Thoughts?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Gary
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >>> --
> > >>> Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
Posted by Bernd Eckenfels <ec...@zusammenkunft.net>.
I like the idea (and prefer Commons Testing), for example a method to list all non-daemon threads after a test run (to see there is no resource leak) can be used independent of the Unit Test Framework.
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Sent: Saturday, November 4, 2017 5:42:39 PM
To: Commons Developers List
Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
How about "Apache Commons Testing"? -- H
On 4 November 2017 at 09:10, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 9:32 AM, Pascal Schumacher <
> pascalschumacher@gmx.net>
> wrote:
>
> > JUnit 5 is not backwards compatible (Package/Annotation-Names have
> > changed, Rules were replaced by a new extension model), but it can run
> > JUnit 3 and JUnit 4 Tests if you add an additional dependency. See
> > http://junit.org/junit5/docs/current/user-guide/#migrating-from-junit4
> > for details.
>
>
> OK, so "Apache Commons Extras for Junit 4"
>
> Gary
>
>
> >
> >
> > Am 04.11.2017 um 15:53 schrieb Gary Gregory:
> >
> >> I am assuming that JUnit 5 will be backward compatible with JUnit 4, I
> >> might be wrong. I'd like to focus on a single dependency for now (JUnit)
> >> and not do a multi-module project. If someone want to do the same for
> >> TestNG, then have at it. KISS and small for 1.0.
> >>
> >> Gary
> >>
> >> On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 10:41 PM, Bruno P. Kinoshita <
> >> brunodepaulak@yahoo.com.br.invalid> wrote:
> >>
> >> +1 for the idea and for looking at JUnit 5.x and maybe AssertJ.
> >>> CheersBruno
> >>>
> >>> From: Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
> >>> To: Commons Developers List <de...@commons.apache.org>
> >>> Sent: Saturday, 4 November 2017 1:44 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
> >>>
> >>> I certainly like the idea, especially if the docs are good about
> pulling
> >>> in
> >>> other related dependencies to complement the whole thing. General
> >>> resource
> >>> management rules would be great, though, like the ones we have in
> Log4j.
> >>>
> >>> Also, I haven't looked closely at it yet, but supporting JUnit 5.x as
> >>> well
> >>> would be nice.
> >>>
> >>> On 3 November 2017 at 18:11, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi All,
> >>>>
> >>>> I'd propose we start a new component called "Apache Commons JUnit".
> >>>>
> >>>> The goal would be to gather useful and reusable code like JUnit rules.
> >>>>
> >>>> This component would be focused on JUnit 4.x only.
> >>>>
> >>>> For example: org.apache.commons.collections4.junit.
> >>>> SetDefaultLocaleTestRule
> >>>>
> >>>> I have other rules stashed here and there as well, for example a Set
> >>>> Default Charset Rule.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thoughts?
> >>>>
> >>>> Gary
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
Posted by Hasan Diwan <ha...@gmail.com>.
How about "Apache Commons Testing"? -- H
On 4 November 2017 at 09:10, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 9:32 AM, Pascal Schumacher <
> pascalschumacher@gmx.net>
> wrote:
>
> > JUnit 5 is not backwards compatible (Package/Annotation-Names have
> > changed, Rules were replaced by a new extension model), but it can run
> > JUnit 3 and JUnit 4 Tests if you add an additional dependency. See
> > http://junit.org/junit5/docs/current/user-guide/#migrating-from-junit4
> > for details.
>
>
> OK, so "Apache Commons Extras for Junit 4"
>
> Gary
>
>
> >
> >
> > Am 04.11.2017 um 15:53 schrieb Gary Gregory:
> >
> >> I am assuming that JUnit 5 will be backward compatible with JUnit 4, I
> >> might be wrong. I'd like to focus on a single dependency for now (JUnit)
> >> and not do a multi-module project. If someone want to do the same for
> >> TestNG, then have at it. KISS and small for 1.0.
> >>
> >> Gary
> >>
> >> On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 10:41 PM, Bruno P. Kinoshita <
> >> brunodepaulak@yahoo.com.br.invalid> wrote:
> >>
> >> +1 for the idea and for looking at JUnit 5.x and maybe AssertJ.
> >>> CheersBruno
> >>>
> >>> From: Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
> >>> To: Commons Developers List <de...@commons.apache.org>
> >>> Sent: Saturday, 4 November 2017 1:44 PM
> >>> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
> >>>
> >>> I certainly like the idea, especially if the docs are good about
> pulling
> >>> in
> >>> other related dependencies to complement the whole thing. General
> >>> resource
> >>> management rules would be great, though, like the ones we have in
> Log4j.
> >>>
> >>> Also, I haven't looked closely at it yet, but supporting JUnit 5.x as
> >>> well
> >>> would be nice.
> >>>
> >>> On 3 November 2017 at 18:11, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi All,
> >>>>
> >>>> I'd propose we start a new component called "Apache Commons JUnit".
> >>>>
> >>>> The goal would be to gather useful and reusable code like JUnit rules.
> >>>>
> >>>> This component would be focused on JUnit 4.x only.
> >>>>
> >>>> For example: org.apache.commons.collections4.junit.
> >>>> SetDefaultLocaleTestRule
> >>>>
> >>>> I have other rules stashed here and there as well, for example a Set
> >>>> Default Charset Rule.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thoughts?
> >>>>
> >>>> Gary
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> --
> >>> Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
Posted by Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 9:32 AM, Pascal Schumacher <pa...@gmx.net>
wrote:
> JUnit 5 is not backwards compatible (Package/Annotation-Names have
> changed, Rules were replaced by a new extension model), but it can run
> JUnit 3 and JUnit 4 Tests if you add an additional dependency. See
> http://junit.org/junit5/docs/current/user-guide/#migrating-from-junit4
> for details.
OK, so "Apache Commons Extras for Junit 4"
Gary
>
>
> Am 04.11.2017 um 15:53 schrieb Gary Gregory:
>
>> I am assuming that JUnit 5 will be backward compatible with JUnit 4, I
>> might be wrong. I'd like to focus on a single dependency for now (JUnit)
>> and not do a multi-module project. If someone want to do the same for
>> TestNG, then have at it. KISS and small for 1.0.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 10:41 PM, Bruno P. Kinoshita <
>> brunodepaulak@yahoo.com.br.invalid> wrote:
>>
>> +1 for the idea and for looking at JUnit 5.x and maybe AssertJ.
>>> CheersBruno
>>>
>>> From: Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
>>> To: Commons Developers List <de...@commons.apache.org>
>>> Sent: Saturday, 4 November 2017 1:44 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
>>>
>>> I certainly like the idea, especially if the docs are good about pulling
>>> in
>>> other related dependencies to complement the whole thing. General
>>> resource
>>> management rules would be great, though, like the ones we have in Log4j.
>>>
>>> Also, I haven't looked closely at it yet, but supporting JUnit 5.x as
>>> well
>>> would be nice.
>>>
>>> On 3 November 2017 at 18:11, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>>
>>>> I'd propose we start a new component called "Apache Commons JUnit".
>>>>
>>>> The goal would be to gather useful and reusable code like JUnit rules.
>>>>
>>>> This component would be focused on JUnit 4.x only.
>>>>
>>>> For example: org.apache.commons.collections4.junit.
>>>> SetDefaultLocaleTestRule
>>>>
>>>> I have other rules stashed here and there as well, for example a Set
>>>> Default Charset Rule.
>>>>
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> Gary
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
Posted by Pascal Schumacher <pa...@gmx.net>.
JUnit 5 is not backwards compatible (Package/Annotation-Names have
changed, Rules were replaced by a new extension model), but it can run
JUnit 3 and JUnit 4 Tests if you add an additional dependency. See
http://junit.org/junit5/docs/current/user-guide/#migrating-from-junit4
for details.
Am 04.11.2017 um 15:53 schrieb Gary Gregory:
> I am assuming that JUnit 5 will be backward compatible with JUnit 4, I
> might be wrong. I'd like to focus on a single dependency for now (JUnit)
> and not do a multi-module project. If someone want to do the same for
> TestNG, then have at it. KISS and small for 1.0.
>
> Gary
>
> On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 10:41 PM, Bruno P. Kinoshita <
> brunodepaulak@yahoo.com.br.invalid> wrote:
>
>> +1 for the idea and for looking at JUnit 5.x and maybe AssertJ.
>> CheersBruno
>>
>> From: Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
>> To: Commons Developers List <de...@commons.apache.org>
>> Sent: Saturday, 4 November 2017 1:44 PM
>> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
>>
>> I certainly like the idea, especially if the docs are good about pulling in
>> other related dependencies to complement the whole thing. General resource
>> management rules would be great, though, like the ones we have in Log4j.
>>
>> Also, I haven't looked closely at it yet, but supporting JUnit 5.x as well
>> would be nice.
>>
>> On 3 November 2017 at 18:11, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi All,
>>>
>>> I'd propose we start a new component called "Apache Commons JUnit".
>>>
>>> The goal would be to gather useful and reusable code like JUnit rules.
>>>
>>> This component would be focused on JUnit 4.x only.
>>>
>>> For example: org.apache.commons.collections4.junit.
>>> SetDefaultLocaleTestRule
>>>
>>> I have other rules stashed here and there as well, for example a Set
>>> Default Charset Rule.
>>>
>>> Thoughts?
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
Posted by Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>.
I am assuming that JUnit 5 will be backward compatible with JUnit 4, I
might be wrong. I'd like to focus on a single dependency for now (JUnit)
and not do a multi-module project. If someone want to do the same for
TestNG, then have at it. KISS and small for 1.0.
Gary
On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 10:41 PM, Bruno P. Kinoshita <
brunodepaulak@yahoo.com.br.invalid> wrote:
> +1 for the idea and for looking at JUnit 5.x and maybe AssertJ.
> CheersBruno
>
> From: Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
> To: Commons Developers List <de...@commons.apache.org>
> Sent: Saturday, 4 November 2017 1:44 PM
> Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
>
> I certainly like the idea, especially if the docs are good about pulling in
> other related dependencies to complement the whole thing. General resource
> management rules would be great, though, like the ones we have in Log4j.
>
> Also, I haven't looked closely at it yet, but supporting JUnit 5.x as well
> would be nice.
>
> On 3 November 2017 at 18:11, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > I'd propose we start a new component called "Apache Commons JUnit".
> >
> > The goal would be to gather useful and reusable code like JUnit rules.
> >
> > This component would be focused on JUnit 4.x only.
> >
> > For example: org.apache.commons.collections4.junit.
> > SetDefaultLocaleTestRule
> >
> > I have other rules stashed here and there as well, for example a Set
> > Default Charset Rule.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > Gary
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
>
>
>
>
Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
Posted by "Bruno P. Kinoshita" <br...@yahoo.com.br.INVALID>.
+1 for the idea and for looking at JUnit 5.x and maybe AssertJ.
CheersBruno
From: Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>
To: Commons Developers List <de...@commons.apache.org>
Sent: Saturday, 4 November 2017 1:44 PM
Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
I certainly like the idea, especially if the docs are good about pulling in
other related dependencies to complement the whole thing. General resource
management rules would be great, though, like the ones we have in Log4j.
Also, I haven't looked closely at it yet, but supporting JUnit 5.x as well
would be nice.
On 3 November 2017 at 18:11, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I'd propose we start a new component called "Apache Commons JUnit".
>
> The goal would be to gather useful and reusable code like JUnit rules.
>
> This component would be focused on JUnit 4.x only.
>
> For example: org.apache.commons.collections4.junit.
> SetDefaultLocaleTestRule
>
> I have other rules stashed here and there as well, for example a Set
> Default Charset Rule.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Gary
>
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
Posted by Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>.
I certainly like the idea, especially if the docs are good about pulling in
other related dependencies to complement the whole thing. General resource
management rules would be great, though, like the ones we have in Log4j.
Also, I haven't looked closely at it yet, but supporting JUnit 5.x as well
would be nice.
On 3 November 2017 at 18:11, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I'd propose we start a new component called "Apache Commons JUnit".
>
> The goal would be to gather useful and reusable code like JUnit rules.
>
> This component would be focused on JUnit 4.x only.
>
> For example: org.apache.commons.collections4.junit.
> SetDefaultLocaleTestRule
>
> I have other rules stashed here and there as well, for example a Set
> Default Charset Rule.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Gary
>
--
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
Posted by kenneth mcfarland <ke...@gmail.com>.
Sounds like a logical category of reusable components. I'm a lurker but I
think that is a very very cool idea!
On Nov 3, 2017 4:11 PM, "Gary Gregory" <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I'd propose we start a new component called "Apache Commons JUnit".
>
> The goal would be to gather useful and reusable code like JUnit rules.
>
> This component would be focused on JUnit 4.x only.
>
> For example: org.apache.commons.collections4.junit.
> SetDefaultLocaleTestRule
>
> I have other rules stashed here and there as well, for example a Set
> Default Charset Rule.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Gary
>
Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
Posted by Claude Warren <cl...@xenei.com>.
I don't know if this fits but I have junit-contract-testing (
https://github.com/Claudenw/junit-contracts) that I would like to
contribute.
It is an extension that performs contract tests for java interface
implementations.
Cluade
On Fri, Nov 3, 2017 at 11:11 PM, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I'd propose we start a new component called "Apache Commons JUnit".
>
> The goal would be to gather useful and reusable code like JUnit rules.
>
> This component would be focused on JUnit 4.x only.
>
> For example: org.apache.commons.collections4.junit.
> SetDefaultLocaleTestRule
>
> I have other rules stashed here and there as well, for example a Set
> Default Charset Rule.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Gary
>
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Re: [PROPOSAL] Apache Commons JUnit
Posted by Martin van den Bemt <ml...@mvdb.net>.
I still have some code lying around in this area. Need refreshing though :
http://mvdb.org/projects/beanunit/
It tests getters and setters automagically.
Maybe because of the magic code involved the code is not very "clean"
and maybe not suitable for a commons test component.
Mvgr,
Martin
On Sat, Nov 4, 2017 at 12:11 AM, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I'd propose we start a new component called "Apache Commons JUnit".
>
> The goal would be to gather useful and reusable code like JUnit rules.
>
> This component would be focused on JUnit 4.x only.
>
> For example: org.apache.commons.collections4.junit.SetDefaultLocaleTestRule
>
> I have other rules stashed here and there as well, for example a Set
> Default Charset Rule.
>
> Thoughts?
>
> Gary
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