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Posted to user@uima.apache.org by Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com> on 2011/12/16 00:13:34 UTC
Re: UIMA Python integration?
Hi
6 months later.
Jens what experience have you learn about UIMA and Python ? Is
Pythonnator still the simplest solution for working with XMI ?
No other alternative ?
Best
/Nicolas
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 11:48 PM, Eddie Epstein <ea...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The last update with uimapy on Apache UIMA was that it had problems
> deserializing somewhat complex XmiCas examples.
>
> The previous problem with jython was that it was backlevel relative to
> the needs of some python analytic code. Jython seems like the simplest
> integration, assuming it works.
>
> The Pythonnator requires a uimacpp runtime. More complicated, but
> perhaps a much faster python execution environment? Uimacpp fully
> supports XmiCas serialization methods.
>
> Eddie
>
> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 4:42 AM, Jens Grivolla <j+...@grivolla.net> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> what's the current status on combining UIMA and Python?
>>
>> I know that it should be possible to write AEs in Python using either the
>> BSF Annotator (and jython) or Pythonnator (using SWIG). I haven't tried
>> either one yet, so I'm open to recommendations on which to use.
>>
>> I would also very much like to write UIMA (and especially UIMA AS) clients
>> in Python. Is it possible at all to use an annotation pipeline from a
>> language other than Java? We are currently using the simple REST server for
>> this, but it has serious limitations.
>>
>> Lastly, and probably more simply, I would like to be able to work with XMI
>> files using Python. There used to be uimapy by Ed Loper, but I can't find a
>> copy anywhere and the sourcefore repository is empty. I found no mention on
>> the mailing list of what happened to the project and the discussion about
>> seems to just have ended quite abruptly.
>>
>> Thanks for any suggestions or hints,
>>
>> Jens
>>
>>
Re: UIMA Python integration?
Posted by Nicolas Hernandez <ni...@gmail.com>.
Thanks for your answers.
To pursue the discussion,
I d like to develop python applications which manage UIMA workflows
(creation, instantiation of AE, ...) in a similar way to the
org.apache.uima.UIMAFramework class described in the Chapter 3.
Application Developer's Guide of UIMA Tutorial and Developers' Guides
[1]
Any hints ? Or code examples ?
Best
[1] http://uima.apache.org/d/uimaj-2.4.0/tutorials_and_users_guides.html#ugr.tug.application
On Fri, Dec 23, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Renaud Richardet
<re...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Nicholas,
>
> Here is an example Annotation Engine that will let you use Python scripts
> (using Jython):
> https://gist.github.com/1513709
> https://gist.github.com/1513763
>
> If there is any interest, I could contribute the code & tests to UIMA.
>
> Merry Xmas, Renaud
>
>
>
> On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Jens Grivolla <j+...@grivolla.net> wrote:
>
>> Hi Nicolas,
>>
>> we haven't really made any progress. Right now we're using only Java
>> within the UIMA pipeline (and one C++ annotator).
>>
>> We then generate XMIs (or in some cases inline XML to get annotations
>> aligned automatically) and work on that in Python, without a library and
>> probably not even dealing with the XMI format entirely correctly. :-(
>>
>> Anyway, things are not pretty, but we just don't have time to actually
>> develop a better solution.
>>
>> Bye,
>> Jens
>>
>>
>> On 12/16/2011 12:13 AM, Nicolas Hernandez wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> 6 months later.
>>>
>>> Jens what experience have you learn about UIMA and Python ? Is
>>> Pythonnator still the simplest solution for working with XMI ?
>>> No other alternative ?
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>> /Nicolas
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 11:48 PM, Eddie Epstein<ea...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The last update with uimapy on Apache UIMA was that it had problems
>>>> deserializing somewhat complex XmiCas examples.
>>>>
>>>> The previous problem with jython was that it was backlevel relative to
>>>> the needs of some python analytic code. Jython seems like the simplest
>>>> integration, assuming it works.
>>>>
>>>> The Pythonnator requires a uimacpp runtime. More complicated, but
>>>> perhaps a much faster python execution environment? Uimacpp fully
>>>> supports XmiCas serialization methods.
>>>>
>>>> Eddie
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 4:42 AM, Jens Grivolla<j+...@grivolla.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> what's the current status on combining UIMA and Python?
>>>>>
>>>>> I know that it should be possible to write AEs in Python using either
>>>>> the
>>>>> BSF Annotator (and jython) or Pythonnator (using SWIG). I haven't tried
>>>>> either one yet, so I'm open to recommendations on which to use.
>>>>>
>>>>> I would also very much like to write UIMA (and especially UIMA AS)
>>>>> clients
>>>>> in Python. Is it possible at all to use an annotation pipeline from a
>>>>> language other than Java? We are currently using the simple REST
>>>>> server for
>>>>> this, but it has serious limitations.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lastly, and probably more simply, I would like to be able to work with
>>>>> XMI
>>>>> files using Python. There used to be uimapy by Ed Loper, but I can't
>>>>> find a
>>>>> copy anywhere and the sourcefore repository is empty. I found no
>>>>> mention on
>>>>> the mailing list of what happened to the project and the discussion
>>>>> about
>>>>> seems to just have ended quite abruptly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for any suggestions or hints,
>>>>>
>>>>> Jens
>>>>>
>>>>>
--
Dr. Nicolas Hernandez
Associate Professor (Maître de Conférences)
Université de Nantes - LINA CNRS
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Re: UIMA Python integration?
Posted by Renaud Richardet <re...@gmail.com>.
Hi Nicholas,
Here is an example Annotation Engine that will let you use Python scripts
(using Jython):
https://gist.github.com/1513709
https://gist.github.com/1513763
If there is any interest, I could contribute the code & tests to UIMA.
Merry Xmas, Renaud
On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 1:08 PM, Jens Grivolla <j+...@grivolla.net> wrote:
> Hi Nicolas,
>
> we haven't really made any progress. Right now we're using only Java
> within the UIMA pipeline (and one C++ annotator).
>
> We then generate XMIs (or in some cases inline XML to get annotations
> aligned automatically) and work on that in Python, without a library and
> probably not even dealing with the XMI format entirely correctly. :-(
>
> Anyway, things are not pretty, but we just don't have time to actually
> develop a better solution.
>
> Bye,
> Jens
>
>
> On 12/16/2011 12:13 AM, Nicolas Hernandez wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> 6 months later.
>>
>> Jens what experience have you learn about UIMA and Python ? Is
>> Pythonnator still the simplest solution for working with XMI ?
>> No other alternative ?
>>
>> Best
>>
>> /Nicolas
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 11:48 PM, Eddie Epstein<ea...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> The last update with uimapy on Apache UIMA was that it had problems
>>> deserializing somewhat complex XmiCas examples.
>>>
>>> The previous problem with jython was that it was backlevel relative to
>>> the needs of some python analytic code. Jython seems like the simplest
>>> integration, assuming it works.
>>>
>>> The Pythonnator requires a uimacpp runtime. More complicated, but
>>> perhaps a much faster python execution environment? Uimacpp fully
>>> supports XmiCas serialization methods.
>>>
>>> Eddie
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 4:42 AM, Jens Grivolla<j+...@grivolla.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> what's the current status on combining UIMA and Python?
>>>>
>>>> I know that it should be possible to write AEs in Python using either
>>>> the
>>>> BSF Annotator (and jython) or Pythonnator (using SWIG). I haven't tried
>>>> either one yet, so I'm open to recommendations on which to use.
>>>>
>>>> I would also very much like to write UIMA (and especially UIMA AS)
>>>> clients
>>>> in Python. Is it possible at all to use an annotation pipeline from a
>>>> language other than Java? We are currently using the simple REST
>>>> server for
>>>> this, but it has serious limitations.
>>>>
>>>> Lastly, and probably more simply, I would like to be able to work with
>>>> XMI
>>>> files using Python. There used to be uimapy by Ed Loper, but I can't
>>>> find a
>>>> copy anywhere and the sourcefore repository is empty. I found no
>>>> mention on
>>>> the mailing list of what happened to the project and the discussion
>>>> about
>>>> seems to just have ended quite abruptly.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for any suggestions or hints,
>>>>
>>>> Jens
>>>>
>>>>
Re: UIMA Python integration?
Posted by Jens Grivolla <j+...@grivolla.net>.
Hi Nicolas,
we haven't really made any progress. Right now we're using only Java
within the UIMA pipeline (and one C++ annotator).
We then generate XMIs (or in some cases inline XML to get annotations
aligned automatically) and work on that in Python, without a library and
probably not even dealing with the XMI format entirely correctly. :-(
Anyway, things are not pretty, but we just don't have time to actually
develop a better solution.
Bye,
Jens
On 12/16/2011 12:13 AM, Nicolas Hernandez wrote:
> Hi
>
> 6 months later.
>
> Jens what experience have you learn about UIMA and Python ? Is
> Pythonnator still the simplest solution for working with XMI ?
> No other alternative ?
>
> Best
>
> /Nicolas
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 11:48 PM, Eddie Epstein<ea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> The last update with uimapy on Apache UIMA was that it had problems
>> deserializing somewhat complex XmiCas examples.
>>
>> The previous problem with jython was that it was backlevel relative to
>> the needs of some python analytic code. Jython seems like the simplest
>> integration, assuming it works.
>>
>> The Pythonnator requires a uimacpp runtime. More complicated, but
>> perhaps a much faster python execution environment? Uimacpp fully
>> supports XmiCas serialization methods.
>>
>> Eddie
>>
>> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 4:42 AM, Jens Grivolla<j+...@grivolla.net> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> what's the current status on combining UIMA and Python?
>>>
>>> I know that it should be possible to write AEs in Python using either the
>>> BSF Annotator (and jython) or Pythonnator (using SWIG). I haven't tried
>>> either one yet, so I'm open to recommendations on which to use.
>>>
>>> I would also very much like to write UIMA (and especially UIMA AS) clients
>>> in Python. Is it possible at all to use an annotation pipeline from a
>>> language other than Java? We are currently using the simple REST server for
>>> this, but it has serious limitations.
>>>
>>> Lastly, and probably more simply, I would like to be able to work with XMI
>>> files using Python. There used to be uimapy by Ed Loper, but I can't find a
>>> copy anywhere and the sourcefore repository is empty. I found no mention on
>>> the mailing list of what happened to the project and the discussion about
>>> seems to just have ended quite abruptly.
>>>
>>> Thanks for any suggestions or hints,
>>>
>>> Jens
>>>
>>>
>