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Posted to wsrp4j-dev@portals.apache.org by David Sean Taylor <da...@bluesunrise.com> on 2003/12/15 22:42:02 UTC
portals.apache.org
I would like to propose creating a new top level project (TLP) at
Apache: portals.apache.org
Before doing so, I've started this email thread to introduce the
concept.
Could you all please provide some feedback and opinions so we can see
if everyone stands behind this new TLP.
The proposal for portals.apache.org is based on bringing together
communities from all of the portal-related projects at Jakarta:
1. Jetspeed
2. Jetspeed-2
3. Pluto
4. WSRP-4J
5. Portlet Applications ....
These projects would be moved out of jakarta.apache.org and into
portals.apache.org for ex portals.apache.org/jetspeed or
portals.apache.org/pluto
Goals of portals.apache.org:
1. To promote the use of portlet applications. We view portlets as an
important technology in the growing portal and web application
environments. We intend to build freely available portlet
applications, portal servers, and portlet containers in order to
promote the use of this technology.
2. To encourage developers from all Apache portal projects to work
together and share common code
3. To develop Portlet Applications and Portlet Application frameworks
at portals.apache.org and grow the portal community here. Portlet
Applications will be managed as sub-projects.
Portal Applications will enable a higher level of application
development while cleanly separating the development of portals such as
Jetspeed from applications code.
4. To provide a community for portal-related Java and XML standards and
reference implementations under the ASF license at portals.apache.org
Note that I have cross-posted to all three (Jetspeed, Pluto, and
WSRP4J) mailing lists.
To respond across mailing lists, respond to ALL.
Not sure if this is the best solution, since Im going to receive 3
emails being that Im a member of all 3 lists.
But this allows for a cross-discussions between the three developer
groups on this thread.
(I will also post this same message to the 3 user lists tomorrow.)
Regarding Cocoon's portal, I don't understand Cocoon's portal well
enough to say it should or should not be a part of portals.apache.org.
I have doubts that they would want to decouple from Cocoon, but you
don't know until you ask.
Of course the Cocoon community is welcome and we should discuss how
this can happen.
--
David Sean Taylor
Bluesunrise Software
david@bluesunrise.com
[office] +01 707 773-4646
[mobile] +01 707 529 9194
Re: portals.apache.org
Posted by patrick chanezon <Pa...@Sun.COM>.
Excellent idea.
P@
David Sean Taylor wrote:
> I would like to propose creating a new top level project (TLP) at
> Apache: portals.apache.org
> Before doing so, I've started this email thread to introduce the concept.
> Could you all please provide some feedback and opinions so we can see
> if everyone stands behind this new TLP.
>
> The proposal for portals.apache.org is based on bringing together
> communities from all of the portal-related projects at Jakarta:
>
> 1. Jetspeed
> 2. Jetspeed-2
> 3. Pluto
> 4. WSRP-4J
> 5. Portlet Applications ....
>
> These projects would be moved out of jakarta.apache.org and into
> portals.apache.org for ex portals.apache.org/jetspeed or
> portals.apache.org/pluto
>
> Goals of portals.apache.org:
>
> 1. To promote the use of portlet applications. We view portlets as an
> important technology in the growing portal and web application
> environments. We intend to build freely available portlet
> applications, portal servers, and portlet containers in order to
> promote the use of this technology.
> 2. To encourage developers from all Apache portal projects to work
> together and share common code
> 3. To develop Portlet Applications and Portlet Application frameworks
> at portals.apache.org and grow the portal community here. Portlet
> Applications will be managed as sub-projects.
> Portal Applications will enable a higher level of application
> development while cleanly separating the development of portals such
> as Jetspeed from applications code.
> 4. To provide a community for portal-related Java and XML standards
> and reference implementations under the ASF license at portals.apache.org
>
> Note that I have cross-posted to all three (Jetspeed, Pluto, and
> WSRP4J) mailing lists.
> To respond across mailing lists, respond to ALL.
> Not sure if this is the best solution, since Im going to receive 3
> emails being that Im a member of all 3 lists.
> But this allows for a cross-discussions between the three developer
> groups on this thread.
> (I will also post this same message to the 3 user lists tomorrow.)
>
> Regarding Cocoon's portal, I don't understand Cocoon's portal well
> enough to say it should or should not be a part of portals.apache.org.
> I have doubts that they would want to decouple from Cocoon, but you
> don't know until you ask.
> Of course the Cocoon community is welcome and we should discuss how
> this can happen.
>
> --
> David Sean Taylor
> Bluesunrise Software
> david@bluesunrise.com
> [office] +01 707 773-4646
> [mobile] +01 707 529 9194
>
>
>
Re: portals.apache.org
Posted by patrick chanezon <Pa...@Sun.COM>.
Excellent idea.
P@
David Sean Taylor wrote:
> I would like to propose creating a new top level project (TLP) at
> Apache: portals.apache.org
> Before doing so, I've started this email thread to introduce the concept.
> Could you all please provide some feedback and opinions so we can see
> if everyone stands behind this new TLP.
>
> The proposal for portals.apache.org is based on bringing together
> communities from all of the portal-related projects at Jakarta:
>
> 1. Jetspeed
> 2. Jetspeed-2
> 3. Pluto
> 4. WSRP-4J
> 5. Portlet Applications ....
>
> These projects would be moved out of jakarta.apache.org and into
> portals.apache.org for ex portals.apache.org/jetspeed or
> portals.apache.org/pluto
>
> Goals of portals.apache.org:
>
> 1. To promote the use of portlet applications. We view portlets as an
> important technology in the growing portal and web application
> environments. We intend to build freely available portlet
> applications, portal servers, and portlet containers in order to
> promote the use of this technology.
> 2. To encourage developers from all Apache portal projects to work
> together and share common code
> 3. To develop Portlet Applications and Portlet Application frameworks
> at portals.apache.org and grow the portal community here. Portlet
> Applications will be managed as sub-projects.
> Portal Applications will enable a higher level of application
> development while cleanly separating the development of portals such
> as Jetspeed from applications code.
> 4. To provide a community for portal-related Java and XML standards
> and reference implementations under the ASF license at portals.apache.org
>
> Note that I have cross-posted to all three (Jetspeed, Pluto, and
> WSRP4J) mailing lists.
> To respond across mailing lists, respond to ALL.
> Not sure if this is the best solution, since Im going to receive 3
> emails being that Im a member of all 3 lists.
> But this allows for a cross-discussions between the three developer
> groups on this thread.
> (I will also post this same message to the 3 user lists tomorrow.)
>
> Regarding Cocoon's portal, I don't understand Cocoon's portal well
> enough to say it should or should not be a part of portals.apache.org.
> I have doubts that they would want to decouple from Cocoon, but you
> don't know until you ask.
> Of course the Cocoon community is welcome and we should discuss how
> this can happen.
>
> --
> David Sean Taylor
> Bluesunrise Software
> david@bluesunrise.com
> [office] +01 707 773-4646
> [mobile] +01 707 529 9194
>
>
>
Re: portals.apache.org
Posted by Julie MacNaught <jm...@apache.org>.
+1 -- Julie Macnaught
Richard Jacob wrote:
> David Sean Taylor wrote:
>
>> I would like to propose creating a new top level project (TLP) at
>> Apache: portals.apache.org
>> Before doing so, I've started this email thread to introduce the
>> concept.
>> Could you all please provide some feedback and opinions so we can see
>> if everyone stands behind this new TLP.
>>
>> The proposal for portals.apache.org is based on bringing together
>> communities from all of the portal-related projects at Jakarta:
>>
>> 1. Jetspeed
>> 2. Jetspeed-2
>> 3. Pluto
>> 4. WSRP-4J
>> 5. Portlet Applications ....
>>
>> These projects would be moved out of jakarta.apache.org and into
>> portals.apache.org for ex portals.apache.org/jetspeed or
>> portals.apache.org/pluto
>>
> definitly a +1 from my side - great idea.
>
>
Re: portals.apache.org
Posted by Julie MacNaught <jm...@apache.org>.
+1 -- Julie Macnaught
Richard Jacob wrote:
> David Sean Taylor wrote:
>
>> I would like to propose creating a new top level project (TLP) at
>> Apache: portals.apache.org
>> Before doing so, I've started this email thread to introduce the
>> concept.
>> Could you all please provide some feedback and opinions so we can see
>> if everyone stands behind this new TLP.
>>
>> The proposal for portals.apache.org is based on bringing together
>> communities from all of the portal-related projects at Jakarta:
>>
>> 1. Jetspeed
>> 2. Jetspeed-2
>> 3. Pluto
>> 4. WSRP-4J
>> 5. Portlet Applications ....
>>
>> These projects would be moved out of jakarta.apache.org and into
>> portals.apache.org for ex portals.apache.org/jetspeed or
>> portals.apache.org/pluto
>>
> definitly a +1 from my side - great idea.
>
>
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Re: portals.apache.org
Posted by Julie MacNaught <jm...@apache.org>.
+1 -- Julie Macnaught
Richard Jacob wrote:
> David Sean Taylor wrote:
>
>> I would like to propose creating a new top level project (TLP) at
>> Apache: portals.apache.org
>> Before doing so, I've started this email thread to introduce the
>> concept.
>> Could you all please provide some feedback and opinions so we can see
>> if everyone stands behind this new TLP.
>>
>> The proposal for portals.apache.org is based on bringing together
>> communities from all of the portal-related projects at Jakarta:
>>
>> 1. Jetspeed
>> 2. Jetspeed-2
>> 3. Pluto
>> 4. WSRP-4J
>> 5. Portlet Applications ....
>>
>> These projects would be moved out of jakarta.apache.org and into
>> portals.apache.org for ex portals.apache.org/jetspeed or
>> portals.apache.org/pluto
>>
> definitly a +1 from my side - great idea.
>
>
Re: portals.apache.org
Posted by Richard Jacob <ja...@apache.org>.
David Sean Taylor wrote:
> I would like to propose creating a new top level project (TLP) at
> Apache: portals.apache.org
> Before doing so, I've started this email thread to introduce the concept.
> Could you all please provide some feedback and opinions so we can see
> if everyone stands behind this new TLP.
>
> The proposal for portals.apache.org is based on bringing together
> communities from all of the portal-related projects at Jakarta:
>
> 1. Jetspeed
> 2. Jetspeed-2
> 3. Pluto
> 4. WSRP-4J
> 5. Portlet Applications ....
>
> These projects would be moved out of jakarta.apache.org and into
> portals.apache.org for ex portals.apache.org/jetspeed or
> portals.apache.org/pluto
>
definitly a +1 from my side - great idea.
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Re: portals.apache.org
Posted by Richard Jacob <ja...@apache.org>.
David Sean Taylor wrote:
> I would like to propose creating a new top level project (TLP) at
> Apache: portals.apache.org
> Before doing so, I've started this email thread to introduce the concept.
> Could you all please provide some feedback and opinions so we can see
> if everyone stands behind this new TLP.
>
> The proposal for portals.apache.org is based on bringing together
> communities from all of the portal-related projects at Jakarta:
>
> 1. Jetspeed
> 2. Jetspeed-2
> 3. Pluto
> 4. WSRP-4J
> 5. Portlet Applications ....
>
> These projects would be moved out of jakarta.apache.org and into
> portals.apache.org for ex portals.apache.org/jetspeed or
> portals.apache.org/pluto
>
definitly a +1 from my side - great idea.
Re: portals.apache.org
Posted by Christophe Lombart <ch...@sword-technologies.com>.
Very good to promote jetspeed. Certainly very good to centralise info
on portal/portlets technologies and associated applications. Until now,
I didn't know the project WSRP-4J. So for a jetspeed user like me, it
sound to be a great idea. One place to get the max info on portal
related apache products.
We want this site, we want this site, we want this site !
Christophe
Jun Yang wrote:
> I think it's a great idea to have a top level project of
> portals.apache.org!
>
> Jun
>
> David Sean Taylor wrote:
>
>> I would like to propose creating a new top level project (TLP) at
>> Apache: portals.apache.org
>> Before doing so, I've started this email thread to introduce the
>> concept.
>> Could you all please provide some feedback and opinions so we can see
>> if everyone stands behind this new TLP.
>>
>> The proposal for portals.apache.org is based on bringing together
>> communities from all of the portal-related projects at Jakarta:
>>
>> 1. Jetspeed
>> 2. Jetspeed-2
>> 3. Pluto
>> 4. WSRP-4J
>> 5. Portlet Applications ....
>>
>> These projects would be moved out of jakarta.apache.org and into
>> portals.apache.org for ex portals.apache.org/jetspeed or
>> portals.apache.org/pluto
>>
>> Goals of portals.apache.org:
>>
>> 1. To promote the use of portlet applications. We view portlets as an
>> important technology in the growing portal and web application
>> environments. We intend to build freely available portlet
>> applications, portal servers, and portlet containers in order to
>> promote the use of this technology.
>> 2. To encourage developers from all Apache portal projects to work
>> together and share common code
>> 3. To develop Portlet Applications and Portlet Application frameworks
>> at portals.apache.org and grow the portal community here. Portlet
>> Applications will be managed as sub-projects.
>> Portal Applications will enable a higher level of application
>> development while cleanly separating the development of portals such
>> as Jetspeed from applications code.
>> 4. To provide a community for portal-related Java and XML standards
>> and reference implementations under the ASF license at
>> portals.apache.org
>>
>> Note that I have cross-posted to all three (Jetspeed, Pluto, and
>> WSRP4J) mailing lists.
>> To respond across mailing lists, respond to ALL.
>> Not sure if this is the best solution, since Im going to receive 3
>> emails being that Im a member of all 3 lists.
>> But this allows for a cross-discussions between the three developer
>> groups on this thread.
>> (I will also post this same message to the 3 user lists tomorrow.)
>>
>> Regarding Cocoon's portal, I don't understand Cocoon's portal well
>> enough to say it should or should not be a part of portals.apache.org.
>> I have doubts that they would want to decouple from Cocoon, but you
>> don't know until you ask.
>> Of course the Cocoon community is welcome and we should discuss how
>> this can happen.
>>
>> --
>> David Sean Taylor
>> Bluesunrise Software
>> david@bluesunrise.com
>> [office] +01 707 773-4646
>> [mobile] +01 707 529 9194
>
>
>
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Re: portals.apache.org
Posted by Jun Yang <ju...@cisco.com>.
I think it's a great idea to have a top level project of portals.apache.org!
Jun
David Sean Taylor wrote:
> I would like to propose creating a new top level project (TLP) at
> Apache: portals.apache.org
> Before doing so, I've started this email thread to introduce the concept.
> Could you all please provide some feedback and opinions so we can see
> if everyone stands behind this new TLP.
>
> The proposal for portals.apache.org is based on bringing together
> communities from all of the portal-related projects at Jakarta:
>
> 1. Jetspeed
> 2. Jetspeed-2
> 3. Pluto
> 4. WSRP-4J
> 5. Portlet Applications ....
>
> These projects would be moved out of jakarta.apache.org and into
> portals.apache.org for ex portals.apache.org/jetspeed or
> portals.apache.org/pluto
>
> Goals of portals.apache.org:
>
> 1. To promote the use of portlet applications. We view portlets as an
> important technology in the growing portal and web application
> environments. We intend to build freely available portlet
> applications, portal servers, and portlet containers in order to
> promote the use of this technology.
> 2. To encourage developers from all Apache portal projects to work
> together and share common code
> 3. To develop Portlet Applications and Portlet Application frameworks
> at portals.apache.org and grow the portal community here. Portlet
> Applications will be managed as sub-projects.
> Portal Applications will enable a higher level of application
> development while cleanly separating the development of portals such
> as Jetspeed from applications code.
> 4. To provide a community for portal-related Java and XML standards
> and reference implementations under the ASF license at portals.apache.org
>
> Note that I have cross-posted to all three (Jetspeed, Pluto, and
> WSRP4J) mailing lists.
> To respond across mailing lists, respond to ALL.
> Not sure if this is the best solution, since Im going to receive 3
> emails being that Im a member of all 3 lists.
> But this allows for a cross-discussions between the three developer
> groups on this thread.
> (I will also post this same message to the 3 user lists tomorrow.)
>
> Regarding Cocoon's portal, I don't understand Cocoon's portal well
> enough to say it should or should not be a part of portals.apache.org.
> I have doubts that they would want to decouple from Cocoon, but you
> don't know until you ask.
> Of course the Cocoon community is welcome and we should discuss how
> this can happen.
>
> --
> David Sean Taylor
> Bluesunrise Software
> david@bluesunrise.com
> [office] +01 707 773-4646
> [mobile] +01 707 529 9194
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Re: portals.apache.org
Posted by Roger Ruttimann <ro...@earthlink.net>.
It's a great idea to have a single entry point for several apache portal
projects.
<snip>
...
> 2. To encourage developers from all Apache portal projects to work
> together and share common code
Pluto shares already code with Jetspeed and structuring the different portal
projects under portals.apache.org would encourage more code sharing.
> 3. To develop Portlet Applications and Portlet Application frameworks
> at portals.apache.org and grow the portal community here. Portlet
> Applications will be managed as sub-projects.
> Portal Applications will enable a higher level of application
> development while cleanly separating the development of portals such as
> Jetspeed from applications code.
> 4. To provide a community for portal-related Java and XML standards and
> reference implementations under the ASF license at portals.apache.org
>
> Note that I have cross-posted to all three (Jetspeed, Pluto, and
> WSRP4J) mailing lists.
> To respond across mailing lists, respond to ALL.
> Not sure if this is the best solution, since Im going to receive 3
> emails being that Im a member of all 3 lists.
> But this allows for a cross-discussions between the three developer
> groups on this thread.
> (I will also post this same message to the 3 user lists tomorrow.)
>
> Regarding Cocoon's portal, I don't understand Cocoon's portal well
> enough to say it should or should not be a part of portals.apache.org.
> I have doubts that they would want to decouple from Cocoon, but you
> don't know until you ask.
> Of course the Cocoon community is welcome and we should discuss how
> this can happen.
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Re: portals.apache.org
Posted by patrick chanezon <Pa...@Sun.COM>.
Excellent idea.
P@
David Sean Taylor wrote:
> I would like to propose creating a new top level project (TLP) at
> Apache: portals.apache.org
> Before doing so, I've started this email thread to introduce the concept.
> Could you all please provide some feedback and opinions so we can see
> if everyone stands behind this new TLP.
>
> The proposal for portals.apache.org is based on bringing together
> communities from all of the portal-related projects at Jakarta:
>
> 1. Jetspeed
> 2. Jetspeed-2
> 3. Pluto
> 4. WSRP-4J
> 5. Portlet Applications ....
>
> These projects would be moved out of jakarta.apache.org and into
> portals.apache.org for ex portals.apache.org/jetspeed or
> portals.apache.org/pluto
>
> Goals of portals.apache.org:
>
> 1. To promote the use of portlet applications. We view portlets as an
> important technology in the growing portal and web application
> environments. We intend to build freely available portlet
> applications, portal servers, and portlet containers in order to
> promote the use of this technology.
> 2. To encourage developers from all Apache portal projects to work
> together and share common code
> 3. To develop Portlet Applications and Portlet Application frameworks
> at portals.apache.org and grow the portal community here. Portlet
> Applications will be managed as sub-projects.
> Portal Applications will enable a higher level of application
> development while cleanly separating the development of portals such
> as Jetspeed from applications code.
> 4. To provide a community for portal-related Java and XML standards
> and reference implementations under the ASF license at portals.apache.org
>
> Note that I have cross-posted to all three (Jetspeed, Pluto, and
> WSRP4J) mailing lists.
> To respond across mailing lists, respond to ALL.
> Not sure if this is the best solution, since Im going to receive 3
> emails being that Im a member of all 3 lists.
> But this allows for a cross-discussions between the three developer
> groups on this thread.
> (I will also post this same message to the 3 user lists tomorrow.)
>
> Regarding Cocoon's portal, I don't understand Cocoon's portal well
> enough to say it should or should not be a part of portals.apache.org.
> I have doubts that they would want to decouple from Cocoon, but you
> don't know until you ask.
> Of course the Cocoon community is welcome and we should discuss how
> this can happen.
>
> --
> David Sean Taylor
> Bluesunrise Software
> david@bluesunrise.com
> [office] +01 707 773-4646
> [mobile] +01 707 529 9194
>
>
>
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Re: portals.apache.org
Posted by Stefan Hepper <st...@hursley.ibm.com>.
I'm also +1 for this great idea.
Stefan
David Sean Taylor wrote:
> I would like to propose creating a new top level project (TLP) at
> Apache: portals.apache.org
> Before doing so, I've started this email thread to introduce the concept.
> Could you all please provide some feedback and opinions so we can see if
> everyone stands behind this new TLP.
>
> The proposal for portals.apache.org is based on bringing together
> communities from all of the portal-related projects at Jakarta:
>
> 1. Jetspeed
> 2. Jetspeed-2
> 3. Pluto
> 4. WSRP-4J
> 5. Portlet Applications ....
>
> These projects would be moved out of jakarta.apache.org and into
> portals.apache.org for ex portals.apache.org/jetspeed or
> portals.apache.org/pluto
>
> Goals of portals.apache.org:
>
> 1. To promote the use of portlet applications. We view portlets as an
> important technology in the growing portal and web application
> environments. We intend to build freely available portlet applications,
> portal servers, and portlet containers in order to promote the use of
> this technology.
> 2. To encourage developers from all Apache portal projects to work
> together and share common code
> 3. To develop Portlet Applications and Portlet Application frameworks at
> portals.apache.org and grow the portal community here. Portlet
> Applications will be managed as sub-projects.
> Portal Applications will enable a higher level of application
> development while cleanly separating the development of portals such as
> Jetspeed from applications code.
> 4. To provide a community for portal-related Java and XML standards and
> reference implementations under the ASF license at portals.apache.org
>
> Note that I have cross-posted to all three (Jetspeed, Pluto, and WSRP4J)
> mailing lists.
> To respond across mailing lists, respond to ALL.
> Not sure if this is the best solution, since Im going to receive 3
> emails being that Im a member of all 3 lists.
> But this allows for a cross-discussions between the three developer
> groups on this thread.
> (I will also post this same message to the 3 user lists tomorrow.)
>
> Regarding Cocoon's portal, I don't understand Cocoon's portal well
> enough to say it should or should not be a part of portals.apache.org.
> I have doubts that they would want to decouple from Cocoon, but you
> don't know until you ask.
> Of course the Cocoon community is welcome and we should discuss how this
> can happen.
>
> --
> David Sean Taylor
> Bluesunrise Software
> david@bluesunrise.com
> [office] +01 707 773-4646
> [mobile] +01 707 529 9194
>
>
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Re: portals.apache.org
Posted by Richard Jacob <ja...@apache.org>.
David Sean Taylor wrote:
> I would like to propose creating a new top level project (TLP) at
> Apache: portals.apache.org
> Before doing so, I've started this email thread to introduce the concept.
> Could you all please provide some feedback and opinions so we can see
> if everyone stands behind this new TLP.
>
> The proposal for portals.apache.org is based on bringing together
> communities from all of the portal-related projects at Jakarta:
>
> 1. Jetspeed
> 2. Jetspeed-2
> 3. Pluto
> 4. WSRP-4J
> 5. Portlet Applications ....
>
> These projects would be moved out of jakarta.apache.org and into
> portals.apache.org for ex portals.apache.org/jetspeed or
> portals.apache.org/pluto
>
definitly a +1 from my side - great idea.
Re: portals.apache.org
Posted by Stefan Hepper <st...@hursley.ibm.com>.
I'm also +1 for this great idea.
Stefan
David Sean Taylor wrote:
> I would like to propose creating a new top level project (TLP) at
> Apache: portals.apache.org
> Before doing so, I've started this email thread to introduce the concept.
> Could you all please provide some feedback and opinions so we can see if
> everyone stands behind this new TLP.
>
> The proposal for portals.apache.org is based on bringing together
> communities from all of the portal-related projects at Jakarta:
>
> 1. Jetspeed
> 2. Jetspeed-2
> 3. Pluto
> 4. WSRP-4J
> 5. Portlet Applications ....
>
> These projects would be moved out of jakarta.apache.org and into
> portals.apache.org for ex portals.apache.org/jetspeed or
> portals.apache.org/pluto
>
> Goals of portals.apache.org:
>
> 1. To promote the use of portlet applications. We view portlets as an
> important technology in the growing portal and web application
> environments. We intend to build freely available portlet applications,
> portal servers, and portlet containers in order to promote the use of
> this technology.
> 2. To encourage developers from all Apache portal projects to work
> together and share common code
> 3. To develop Portlet Applications and Portlet Application frameworks at
> portals.apache.org and grow the portal community here. Portlet
> Applications will be managed as sub-projects.
> Portal Applications will enable a higher level of application
> development while cleanly separating the development of portals such as
> Jetspeed from applications code.
> 4. To provide a community for portal-related Java and XML standards and
> reference implementations under the ASF license at portals.apache.org
>
> Note that I have cross-posted to all three (Jetspeed, Pluto, and WSRP4J)
> mailing lists.
> To respond across mailing lists, respond to ALL.
> Not sure if this is the best solution, since Im going to receive 3
> emails being that Im a member of all 3 lists.
> But this allows for a cross-discussions between the three developer
> groups on this thread.
> (I will also post this same message to the 3 user lists tomorrow.)
>
> Regarding Cocoon's portal, I don't understand Cocoon's portal well
> enough to say it should or should not be a part of portals.apache.org.
> I have doubts that they would want to decouple from Cocoon, but you
> don't know until you ask.
> Of course the Cocoon community is welcome and we should discuss how this
> can happen.
>
> --
> David Sean Taylor
> Bluesunrise Software
> david@bluesunrise.com
> [office] +01 707 773-4646
> [mobile] +01 707 529 9194
>
>
Re: portals.apache.org
Posted by Stefan Hepper <st...@hursley.ibm.com>.
I'm also +1 for this great idea.
Stefan
David Sean Taylor wrote:
> I would like to propose creating a new top level project (TLP) at
> Apache: portals.apache.org
> Before doing so, I've started this email thread to introduce the concept.
> Could you all please provide some feedback and opinions so we can see if
> everyone stands behind this new TLP.
>
> The proposal for portals.apache.org is based on bringing together
> communities from all of the portal-related projects at Jakarta:
>
> 1. Jetspeed
> 2. Jetspeed-2
> 3. Pluto
> 4. WSRP-4J
> 5. Portlet Applications ....
>
> These projects would be moved out of jakarta.apache.org and into
> portals.apache.org for ex portals.apache.org/jetspeed or
> portals.apache.org/pluto
>
> Goals of portals.apache.org:
>
> 1. To promote the use of portlet applications. We view portlets as an
> important technology in the growing portal and web application
> environments. We intend to build freely available portlet applications,
> portal servers, and portlet containers in order to promote the use of
> this technology.
> 2. To encourage developers from all Apache portal projects to work
> together and share common code
> 3. To develop Portlet Applications and Portlet Application frameworks at
> portals.apache.org and grow the portal community here. Portlet
> Applications will be managed as sub-projects.
> Portal Applications will enable a higher level of application
> development while cleanly separating the development of portals such as
> Jetspeed from applications code.
> 4. To provide a community for portal-related Java and XML standards and
> reference implementations under the ASF license at portals.apache.org
>
> Note that I have cross-posted to all three (Jetspeed, Pluto, and WSRP4J)
> mailing lists.
> To respond across mailing lists, respond to ALL.
> Not sure if this is the best solution, since Im going to receive 3
> emails being that Im a member of all 3 lists.
> But this allows for a cross-discussions between the three developer
> groups on this thread.
> (I will also post this same message to the 3 user lists tomorrow.)
>
> Regarding Cocoon's portal, I don't understand Cocoon's portal well
> enough to say it should or should not be a part of portals.apache.org.
> I have doubts that they would want to decouple from Cocoon, but you
> don't know until you ask.
> Of course the Cocoon community is welcome and we should discuss how this
> can happen.
>
> --
> David Sean Taylor
> Bluesunrise Software
> david@bluesunrise.com
> [office] +01 707 773-4646
> [mobile] +01 707 529 9194
>
>
RE: portals.apache.org
Posted by Eric W Hauser <eh...@indiana.edu>.
Currently, IBM maintains the jars for WPS to work with Struts. Their jars
are distributed with WPS. It would be nice if their was an implementation
of Struts for all JSR168 portal containers. Whether this project should
belong to portals.apache.org or should be part of the Struts project, I'm
not sure. But, it definately would be nice if this undertaking was open
source.
On Wed, 17 Dec 2003, Michael Vorburger wrote:
> >> talking about integrating Jetspeed with Struts
> > Please could you explain how you see Jetspeed integrating with Struts
>
> Wondering if this is useful: An article on Developing a Struts
> Application for WebSphere Portal 4.2, which I understand is largely
> JetSpeed based:
>
> http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/websphere/techjournal/0303_hanis/h
> anis.html
>
> Also have a 30+ pages StrutsInPortal.pdf, Struts in WebSphere Portal
> 4.1, August 2002, IBM WebSphere Portal, Document version 1.0, which
> seems similar to above, but 1.9 MB inappropriate to email to list, happy
> to send individually if interest and above not enough.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Sean Taylor [mailto:david@bluesunrise.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 20:15
> To: pluto-dev@jakarta.apache.org
> Cc: wsrp4j-dev@ws.apache.org; 'Jetspeed List'
> Subject: Re: portals.apache.org
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 16, 2003, at 11:03 AM, Suchisubhra Sinha
> (susinha) wrote:
>
> > Hi David,
> > excellent Idea. But I have one request for you.
> > Last few days people were talking about integrating Jetspeed with
> > Struts. I think we can think about it more seriously. For me it is a
> > good idea.
> >
> Please could you explain how you see Jetspeed integrating with Struts...
> I was thinking along the lines of a Struts Portlet App framework for
> building portlet apps with Struts.
>
> >
> > Lemme know what do you think about it. This is going to help us
> > a lot. If you have time we can talk about this offline.
> >
> Sure.
> Scott and I are on the Jetspeed IRC -- irc.codehaus.org:6667 #Jetspeed
>
> --
> David Sean Taylor
> Bluesunrise Software
> david@bluesunrise.com
> [office] +01 707 773-4646
> [mobile] +01 707 529 9194
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Eric Hauser
ehauser@indiana.edu
(317) 679-4766
RE: portals.apache.org
Posted by Eric W Hauser <eh...@indiana.edu>.
Currently, IBM maintains the jars for WPS to work with Struts. Their jars
are distributed with WPS. It would be nice if their was an implementation
of Struts for all JSR168 portal containers. Whether this project should
belong to portals.apache.org or should be part of the Struts project, I'm
not sure. But, it definately would be nice if this undertaking was open
source.
On Wed, 17 Dec 2003, Michael Vorburger wrote:
> >> talking about integrating Jetspeed with Struts
> > Please could you explain how you see Jetspeed integrating with Struts
>
> Wondering if this is useful: An article on Developing a Struts
> Application for WebSphere Portal 4.2, which I understand is largely
> JetSpeed based:
>
> http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/websphere/techjournal/0303_hanis/h
> anis.html
>
> Also have a 30+ pages StrutsInPortal.pdf, Struts in WebSphere Portal
> 4.1, August 2002, IBM WebSphere Portal, Document version 1.0, which
> seems similar to above, but 1.9 MB inappropriate to email to list, happy
> to send individually if interest and above not enough.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Sean Taylor [mailto:david@bluesunrise.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 20:15
> To: pluto-dev@jakarta.apache.org
> Cc: wsrp4j-dev@ws.apache.org; 'Jetspeed List'
> Subject: Re: portals.apache.org
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 16, 2003, at 11:03 AM, Suchisubhra Sinha
> (susinha) wrote:
>
> > Hi David,
> > excellent Idea. But I have one request for you.
> > Last few days people were talking about integrating Jetspeed with
> > Struts. I think we can think about it more seriously. For me it is a
> > good idea.
> >
> Please could you explain how you see Jetspeed integrating with Struts...
> I was thinking along the lines of a Struts Portlet App framework for
> building portlet apps with Struts.
>
> >
> > Lemme know what do you think about it. This is going to help us
> > a lot. If you have time we can talk about this offline.
> >
> Sure.
> Scott and I are on the Jetspeed IRC -- irc.codehaus.org:6667 #Jetspeed
>
> --
> David Sean Taylor
> Bluesunrise Software
> david@bluesunrise.com
> [office] +01 707 773-4646
> [mobile] +01 707 529 9194
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
-------------------
Eric Hauser
ehauser@indiana.edu
(317) 679-4766
RE: portals.apache.org
Posted by Eric W Hauser <eh...@indiana.edu>.
Currently, IBM maintains the jars for WPS to work with Struts. Their jars
are distributed with WPS. It would be nice if their was an implementation
of Struts for all JSR168 portal containers. Whether this project should
belong to portals.apache.org or should be part of the Struts project, I'm
not sure. But, it definately would be nice if this undertaking was open
source.
On Wed, 17 Dec 2003, Michael Vorburger wrote:
> >> talking about integrating Jetspeed with Struts
> > Please could you explain how you see Jetspeed integrating with Struts
>
> Wondering if this is useful: An article on Developing a Struts
> Application for WebSphere Portal 4.2, which I understand is largely
> JetSpeed based:
>
> http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/websphere/techjournal/0303_hanis/h
> anis.html
>
> Also have a 30+ pages StrutsInPortal.pdf, Struts in WebSphere Portal
> 4.1, August 2002, IBM WebSphere Portal, Document version 1.0, which
> seems similar to above, but 1.9 MB inappropriate to email to list, happy
> to send individually if interest and above not enough.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Sean Taylor [mailto:david@bluesunrise.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 20:15
> To: pluto-dev@jakarta.apache.org
> Cc: wsrp4j-dev@ws.apache.org; 'Jetspeed List'
> Subject: Re: portals.apache.org
>
>
>
> On Tuesday, December 16, 2003, at 11:03 AM, Suchisubhra Sinha
> (susinha) wrote:
>
> > Hi David,
> > excellent Idea. But I have one request for you.
> > Last few days people were talking about integrating Jetspeed with
> > Struts. I think we can think about it more seriously. For me it is a
> > good idea.
> >
> Please could you explain how you see Jetspeed integrating with Struts...
> I was thinking along the lines of a Struts Portlet App framework for
> building portlet apps with Struts.
>
> >
> > Lemme know what do you think about it. This is going to help us
> > a lot. If you have time we can talk about this offline.
> >
> Sure.
> Scott and I are on the Jetspeed IRC -- irc.codehaus.org:6667 #Jetspeed
>
> --
> David Sean Taylor
> Bluesunrise Software
> david@bluesunrise.com
> [office] +01 707 773-4646
> [mobile] +01 707 529 9194
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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RE: portals.apache.org
Posted by Michael Vorburger <vo...@verticali.com>.
>> talking about integrating Jetspeed with Struts
> Please could you explain how you see Jetspeed integrating with Struts
Wondering if this is useful: An article on Developing a Struts
Application for WebSphere Portal 4.2, which I understand is largely
JetSpeed based:
http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/websphere/techjournal/0303_hanis/h
anis.html
Also have a 30+ pages StrutsInPortal.pdf, Struts in WebSphere Portal
4.1, August 2002, IBM WebSphere Portal, Document version 1.0, which
seems similar to above, but 1.9 MB inappropriate to email to list, happy
to send individually if interest and above not enough.
-----Original Message-----
From: David Sean Taylor [mailto:david@bluesunrise.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 20:15
To: pluto-dev@jakarta.apache.org
Cc: wsrp4j-dev@ws.apache.org; 'Jetspeed List'
Subject: Re: portals.apache.org
On Tuesday, December 16, 2003, at 11:03 AM, Suchisubhra Sinha
(susinha) wrote:
> Hi David,
> excellent Idea. But I have one request for you.
> Last few days people were talking about integrating Jetspeed with
> Struts. I think we can think about it more seriously. For me it is a
> good idea.
>
Please could you explain how you see Jetspeed integrating with Struts...
I was thinking along the lines of a Struts Portlet App framework for
building portlet apps with Struts.
>
> Lemme know what do you think about it. This is going to help us
> a lot. If you have time we can talk about this offline.
>
Sure.
Scott and I are on the Jetspeed IRC -- irc.codehaus.org:6667 #Jetspeed
--
David Sean Taylor
Bluesunrise Software
david@bluesunrise.com
[office] +01 707 773-4646
[mobile] +01 707 529 9194
RE: portals.apache.org
Posted by Michael Vorburger <vo...@verticali.com>.
>> talking about integrating Jetspeed with Struts
> Please could you explain how you see Jetspeed integrating with Struts
Wondering if this is useful: An article on Developing a Struts
Application for WebSphere Portal 4.2, which I understand is largely
JetSpeed based:
http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/websphere/techjournal/0303_hanis/h
anis.html
Also have a 30+ pages StrutsInPortal.pdf, Struts in WebSphere Portal
4.1, August 2002, IBM WebSphere Portal, Document version 1.0, which
seems similar to above, but 1.9 MB inappropriate to email to list, happy
to send individually if interest and above not enough.
-----Original Message-----
From: David Sean Taylor [mailto:david@bluesunrise.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 20:15
To: pluto-dev@jakarta.apache.org
Cc: wsrp4j-dev@ws.apache.org; 'Jetspeed List'
Subject: Re: portals.apache.org
On Tuesday, December 16, 2003, at 11:03 AM, Suchisubhra Sinha
(susinha) wrote:
> Hi David,
> excellent Idea. But I have one request for you.
> Last few days people were talking about integrating Jetspeed with
> Struts. I think we can think about it more seriously. For me it is a
> good idea.
>
Please could you explain how you see Jetspeed integrating with Struts...
I was thinking along the lines of a Struts Portlet App framework for
building portlet apps with Struts.
>
> Lemme know what do you think about it. This is going to help us
> a lot. If you have time we can talk about this offline.
>
Sure.
Scott and I are on the Jetspeed IRC -- irc.codehaus.org:6667 #Jetspeed
--
David Sean Taylor
Bluesunrise Software
david@bluesunrise.com
[office] +01 707 773-4646
[mobile] +01 707 529 9194
RE: portals.apache.org
Posted by Michael Vorburger <vo...@verticali.com>.
>> talking about integrating Jetspeed with Struts
> Please could you explain how you see Jetspeed integrating with Struts
Wondering if this is useful: An article on Developing a Struts
Application for WebSphere Portal 4.2, which I understand is largely
JetSpeed based:
http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/websphere/techjournal/0303_hanis/h
anis.html
Also have a 30+ pages StrutsInPortal.pdf, Struts in WebSphere Portal
4.1, August 2002, IBM WebSphere Portal, Document version 1.0, which
seems similar to above, but 1.9 MB inappropriate to email to list, happy
to send individually if interest and above not enough.
-----Original Message-----
From: David Sean Taylor [mailto:david@bluesunrise.com]
Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 20:15
To: pluto-dev@jakarta.apache.org
Cc: wsrp4j-dev@ws.apache.org; 'Jetspeed List'
Subject: Re: portals.apache.org
On Tuesday, December 16, 2003, at 11:03 AM, Suchisubhra Sinha
(susinha) wrote:
> Hi David,
> excellent Idea. But I have one request for you.
> Last few days people were talking about integrating Jetspeed with
> Struts. I think we can think about it more seriously. For me it is a
> good idea.
>
Please could you explain how you see Jetspeed integrating with Struts...
I was thinking along the lines of a Struts Portlet App framework for
building portlet apps with Struts.
>
> Lemme know what do you think about it. This is going to help us
> a lot. If you have time we can talk about this offline.
>
Sure.
Scott and I are on the Jetspeed IRC -- irc.codehaus.org:6667 #Jetspeed
--
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Re: portals.apache.org
Posted by David Sean Taylor <da...@bluesunrise.com>.
On Tuesday, December 16, 2003, at 11:03 AM, Suchisubhra Sinha
(susinha) wrote:
> Hi David,
> excellent Idea. But I have one request for you.
> Last few days people were talking about integrating Jetspeed with
> Struts.
> I think we can think about it more seriously. For me it is a good
> idea.
>
Please could you explain how you see Jetspeed integrating with Struts...
I was thinking along the lines of a Struts Portlet App framework for
building portlet apps with Struts.
>
> Lemme know what do you think about it. This is going to help us a
> lot.
> If you have time we can talk about this offline.
>
Sure.
Scott and I are on the Jetspeed IRC -- irc.codehaus.org:6667 #Jetspeed
--
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Bluesunrise Software
david@bluesunrise.com
[office] +01 707 773-4646
[mobile] +01 707 529 9194
Re: portals.apache.org
Posted by David Sean Taylor <da...@bluesunrise.com>.
On Tuesday, December 16, 2003, at 11:03 AM, Suchisubhra Sinha
(susinha) wrote:
> Hi David,
> excellent Idea. But I have one request for you.
> Last few days people were talking about integrating Jetspeed with
> Struts.
> I think we can think about it more seriously. For me it is a good
> idea.
>
Please could you explain how you see Jetspeed integrating with Struts...
I was thinking along the lines of a Struts Portlet App framework for
building portlet apps with Struts.
>
> Lemme know what do you think about it. This is going to help us a
> lot.
> If you have time we can talk about this offline.
>
Sure.
Scott and I are on the Jetspeed IRC -- irc.codehaus.org:6667 #Jetspeed
--
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Re: portals.apache.org
Posted by David Sean Taylor <da...@bluesunrise.com>.
On Tuesday, December 16, 2003, at 11:03 AM, Suchisubhra Sinha
(susinha) wrote:
> Hi David,
> excellent Idea. But I have one request for you.
> Last few days people were talking about integrating Jetspeed with
> Struts.
> I think we can think about it more seriously. For me it is a good
> idea.
>
Please could you explain how you see Jetspeed integrating with Struts...
I was thinking along the lines of a Struts Portlet App framework for
building portlet apps with Struts.
>
> Lemme know what do you think about it. This is going to help us a
> lot.
> If you have time we can talk about this offline.
>
Sure.
Scott and I are on the Jetspeed IRC -- irc.codehaus.org:6667 #Jetspeed
--
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[office] +01 707 773-4646
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RE: portals.apache.org
Posted by "Suchisubhra Sinha (susinha)" <su...@cisco.com>.
Hi David,
excellent Idea. But I have one request for you.
Last few days people were talking about integrating Jetspeed with
Struts.
I think we can think about it more seriously. For me it is a good idea.
Lemme know what do you think about it. This is going to help us a
lot.
If you have time we can talk about this offline.
~suchi
-----Original Message-----
From: David Sean Taylor [mailto:david@bluesunrise.com]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 3:06 PM
To: wsrp4j-dev@ws.apache.org
Cc: pluto-dev@jakarta.apache.org; Jetspeed List
Subject: Re: portals.apache.org
On Monday, December 15, 2003, at 02:51 PM, Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
> David Sean Taylor wrote:
>>
>> <SNIP GREAT IDEA/>
> +1
>
>> Regarding Cocoon's portal, I don't understand Cocoon's portal well
>> enough to say it should or should not be a part of
>> portals.apache.org. I have doubts that they would want to decouple
>> from Cocoon, but you don't know until you ask.
> :) Ask and you get an answer :)
:)
> No, the cocoon portal is from the code size a big extension to cocoon.
> Although we haven't discussed this a lot, it seems that we agree that
> the long-term plan is to move the portal out of cocoon anyway, e.g. as
> a Cocoon sub project (this is planned after the 2.2 release of Cocoon
> which might happen sometime next year). So, some of us already think
> that decoupling is a good think for Cocoon. And I personally think
> that moving it to a portal project at apache is better than as a
> subproject in cocoon.
>
> I guess there will be a great overlap between jetspeed-2 and the
> cocoon portal, so having them at the same place seems to be the best
> solution. This would minimize could duplication etc.
>
> Carsten
>
>
I am very happy to hear that!
Having two portal solutions at portals.apache.org will be great for the
end users.
The projects have different implementations and philosophies, and this
gives users choice right here at Apache.
The projects will benefit from shared code and discussions, and being
part of the same community.
--
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Bluesunrise Software
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[office] +01 707 773-4646
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RE: portals.apache.org
Posted by "Suchisubhra Sinha (susinha)" <su...@cisco.com>.
Hi David,
excellent Idea. But I have one request for you.
Last few days people were talking about integrating Jetspeed with
Struts.
I think we can think about it more seriously. For me it is a good idea.
Lemme know what do you think about it. This is going to help us a
lot.
If you have time we can talk about this offline.
~suchi
-----Original Message-----
From: David Sean Taylor [mailto:david@bluesunrise.com]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 3:06 PM
To: wsrp4j-dev@ws.apache.org
Cc: pluto-dev@jakarta.apache.org; Jetspeed List
Subject: Re: portals.apache.org
On Monday, December 15, 2003, at 02:51 PM, Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
> David Sean Taylor wrote:
>>
>> <SNIP GREAT IDEA/>
> +1
>
>> Regarding Cocoon's portal, I don't understand Cocoon's portal well
>> enough to say it should or should not be a part of
>> portals.apache.org. I have doubts that they would want to decouple
>> from Cocoon, but you don't know until you ask.
> :) Ask and you get an answer :)
:)
> No, the cocoon portal is from the code size a big extension to cocoon.
> Although we haven't discussed this a lot, it seems that we agree that
> the long-term plan is to move the portal out of cocoon anyway, e.g. as
> a Cocoon sub project (this is planned after the 2.2 release of Cocoon
> which might happen sometime next year). So, some of us already think
> that decoupling is a good think for Cocoon. And I personally think
> that moving it to a portal project at apache is better than as a
> subproject in cocoon.
>
> I guess there will be a great overlap between jetspeed-2 and the
> cocoon portal, so having them at the same place seems to be the best
> solution. This would minimize could duplication etc.
>
> Carsten
>
>
I am very happy to hear that!
Having two portal solutions at portals.apache.org will be great for the
end users.
The projects have different implementations and philosophies, and this
gives users choice right here at Apache.
The projects will benefit from shared code and discussions, and being
part of the same community.
--
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RE: portals.apache.org
Posted by "Suchisubhra Sinha (susinha)" <su...@cisco.com>.
Hi David,
excellent Idea. But I have one request for you.
Last few days people were talking about integrating Jetspeed with
Struts.
I think we can think about it more seriously. For me it is a good idea.
Lemme know what do you think about it. This is going to help us a
lot.
If you have time we can talk about this offline.
~suchi
-----Original Message-----
From: David Sean Taylor [mailto:david@bluesunrise.com]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 3:06 PM
To: wsrp4j-dev@ws.apache.org
Cc: pluto-dev@jakarta.apache.org; Jetspeed List
Subject: Re: portals.apache.org
On Monday, December 15, 2003, at 02:51 PM, Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
> David Sean Taylor wrote:
>>
>> <SNIP GREAT IDEA/>
> +1
>
>> Regarding Cocoon's portal, I don't understand Cocoon's portal well
>> enough to say it should or should not be a part of
>> portals.apache.org. I have doubts that they would want to decouple
>> from Cocoon, but you don't know until you ask.
> :) Ask and you get an answer :)
:)
> No, the cocoon portal is from the code size a big extension to cocoon.
> Although we haven't discussed this a lot, it seems that we agree that
> the long-term plan is to move the portal out of cocoon anyway, e.g. as
> a Cocoon sub project (this is planned after the 2.2 release of Cocoon
> which might happen sometime next year). So, some of us already think
> that decoupling is a good think for Cocoon. And I personally think
> that moving it to a portal project at apache is better than as a
> subproject in cocoon.
>
> I guess there will be a great overlap between jetspeed-2 and the
> cocoon portal, so having them at the same place seems to be the best
> solution. This would minimize could duplication etc.
>
> Carsten
>
>
I am very happy to hear that!
Having two portal solutions at portals.apache.org will be great for the
end users.
The projects have different implementations and philosophies, and this
gives users choice right here at Apache.
The projects will benefit from shared code and discussions, and being
part of the same community.
--
David Sean Taylor
Bluesunrise Software
david@bluesunrise.com
[office] +01 707 773-4646
[mobile] +01 707 529 9194
Re: portals.apache.org
Posted by David Sean Taylor <da...@bluesunrise.com>.
On Monday, December 15, 2003, at 02:51 PM, Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
> David Sean Taylor wrote:
>>
>> <SNIP GREAT IDEA/>
> +1
>
>> Regarding Cocoon's portal, I don't understand Cocoon's portal well
>> enough to say it should or should not be a part of portals.apache.org.
>> I have doubts that they would want to decouple from Cocoon, but you
>> don't know until you ask.
> :) Ask and you get an answer :)
:)
> No, the cocoon portal is from the code size a big extension to cocoon.
> Although we haven't discussed this a lot, it seems that we agree that
> the long-term plan is to move the portal out of cocoon anyway, e.g.
> as a Cocoon sub project (this is planned after the 2.2 release
> of Cocoon which might happen sometime next year).
> So, some of us already think that decoupling is a good think for
> Cocoon. And I personally think that moving it to a portal project
> at apache is better than as a subproject in cocoon.
>
> I guess there will be a great overlap between jetspeed-2 and
> the cocoon portal, so having them at the same place seems to
> be the best solution. This would minimize could duplication etc.
>
> Carsten
>
>
I am very happy to hear that!
Having two portal solutions at portals.apache.org will be great for the
end users.
The projects have different implementations and philosophies, and this
gives users choice right here at Apache.
The projects will benefit from shared code and discussions, and being
part of the same community.
--
David Sean Taylor
Bluesunrise Software
david@bluesunrise.com
[office] +01 707 773-4646
[mobile] +01 707 529 9194
Re: portals.apache.org
Posted by David Sean Taylor <da...@bluesunrise.com>.
On Monday, December 15, 2003, at 02:51 PM, Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
> David Sean Taylor wrote:
>>
>> <SNIP GREAT IDEA/>
> +1
>
>> Regarding Cocoon's portal, I don't understand Cocoon's portal well
>> enough to say it should or should not be a part of portals.apache.org.
>> I have doubts that they would want to decouple from Cocoon, but you
>> don't know until you ask.
> :) Ask and you get an answer :)
:)
> No, the cocoon portal is from the code size a big extension to cocoon.
> Although we haven't discussed this a lot, it seems that we agree that
> the long-term plan is to move the portal out of cocoon anyway, e.g.
> as a Cocoon sub project (this is planned after the 2.2 release
> of Cocoon which might happen sometime next year).
> So, some of us already think that decoupling is a good think for
> Cocoon. And I personally think that moving it to a portal project
> at apache is better than as a subproject in cocoon.
>
> I guess there will be a great overlap between jetspeed-2 and
> the cocoon portal, so having them at the same place seems to
> be the best solution. This would minimize could duplication etc.
>
> Carsten
>
>
I am very happy to hear that!
Having two portal solutions at portals.apache.org will be great for the
end users.
The projects have different implementations and philosophies, and this
gives users choice right here at Apache.
The projects will benefit from shared code and discussions, and being
part of the same community.
--
David Sean Taylor
Bluesunrise Software
david@bluesunrise.com
[office] +01 707 773-4646
[mobile] +01 707 529 9194
Re: portals.apache.org
Posted by David Sean Taylor <da...@bluesunrise.com>.
On Monday, December 15, 2003, at 02:51 PM, Carsten Ziegeler wrote:
> David Sean Taylor wrote:
>>
>> <SNIP GREAT IDEA/>
> +1
>
>> Regarding Cocoon's portal, I don't understand Cocoon's portal well
>> enough to say it should or should not be a part of portals.apache.org.
>> I have doubts that they would want to decouple from Cocoon, but you
>> don't know until you ask.
> :) Ask and you get an answer :)
:)
> No, the cocoon portal is from the code size a big extension to cocoon.
> Although we haven't discussed this a lot, it seems that we agree that
> the long-term plan is to move the portal out of cocoon anyway, e.g.
> as a Cocoon sub project (this is planned after the 2.2 release
> of Cocoon which might happen sometime next year).
> So, some of us already think that decoupling is a good think for
> Cocoon. And I personally think that moving it to a portal project
> at apache is better than as a subproject in cocoon.
>
> I guess there will be a great overlap between jetspeed-2 and
> the cocoon portal, so having them at the same place seems to
> be the best solution. This would minimize could duplication etc.
>
> Carsten
>
>
I am very happy to hear that!
Having two portal solutions at portals.apache.org will be great for the
end users.
The projects have different implementations and philosophies, and this
gives users choice right here at Apache.
The projects will benefit from shared code and discussions, and being
part of the same community.
--
David Sean Taylor
Bluesunrise Software
david@bluesunrise.com
[office] +01 707 773-4646
[mobile] +01 707 529 9194
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RE: portals.apache.org
Posted by Carsten Ziegeler <cz...@s-und-n.de>.
David Sean Taylor wrote:
>
> <SNIP GREAT IDEA/>
+1
> Regarding Cocoon's portal, I don't understand Cocoon's portal well
> enough to say it should or should not be a part of portals.apache.org.
> I have doubts that they would want to decouple from Cocoon, but you
> don't know until you ask.
:) Ask and you get an answer :)
No, the cocoon portal is from the code size a big extension to cocoon.
Although we haven't discussed this a lot, it seems that we agree that
the long-term plan is to move the portal out of cocoon anyway, e.g.
as a Cocoon sub project (this is planned after the 2.2 release
of Cocoon which might happen sometime next year).
So, some of us already think that decoupling is a good think for
Cocoon. And I personally think that moving it to a portal project
at apache is better than as a subproject in cocoon.
I guess there will be a great overlap between jetspeed-2 and
the cocoon portal, so having them at the same place seems to
be the best solution. This would minimize could duplication etc.
Carsten
RE: portals.apache.org
Posted by GDCII <mi...@netset.com>.
I would like to join now.
-----Original Message-----
From: David Sean Taylor [mailto:david@bluesunrise.com]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 4:42 PM
To: Jetspeed List
Cc: pluto-dev@jakarta.apache.org; wsrp4j-dev@ws.apache.org
Subject: portals.apache.org
I would like to propose creating a new top level project (TLP) at
Apache: portals.apache.org
Before doing so, I've started this email thread to introduce the
concept.
Could you all please provide some feedback and opinions so we can see
if everyone stands behind this new TLP.
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RE: portals.apache.org
Posted by Marco Mari <dr...@tiscali.it>.
GREAT!
It's only my opinion, but I think it's a really good idea, and an important
step for portlet/portal technology...
>-- Messaggio Originale --
>Reply-To: "Jetspeed Developers List" <je...@jakarta.apache.org>
>Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:42:02 -0800
>Subject: portals.apache.org
>Cc: pluto-dev@jakarta.apache.org, wsrp4j-dev@ws.apache.org
>To: Jetspeed List <je...@jakarta.apache.org>
>From: David Sean Taylor <da...@bluesunrise.com>
>
>
>I would like to propose creating a new top level project (TLP) at
Apache: portals.apache.org
Before doing so, I've started this email thread to introduce the
concept.
Could you all please provide some feedback and opinions so we can see
if ever
>one stands behind this new TLP.
The proposal for portals.apache.org is based on bringing together
communities from all of the portal-related projects at Jakarta:
1. Jetspeed
2. Jetspeed-2
3. Pluto
4. WSRP-4J
5. Portlet Applications ....
>hese projects would be moved out of jakarta.apache.org and into
portals.apache.org for ex portals.apache.org/jetspeed or
portals.apache.org/pluto
Goals of portals.apache.org:
1. To promote the use of portlet applications. We view portlets as
>n
important technology in the growing portal and web application
environments. We intend to build freely available portlet
applications, portal servers, and portlet containers in order to
promote the use of this technology.
2. To encourage de
>elopers from all Apache portal projects to work
together and share common code
3. To develop Portlet Applications and Portlet Application frameworks
at portals.apache.org and grow the portal community here. Portlet
Applications will be managed a
> sub-projects.
Portal Applications will enable a higher level of application
development while cleanly separating the development of portals such as
Jetspeed from applications code.
4. To provide a community for portal-related Java and XML s
>andards and
reference implementations under the ASF license at portals.apache.org
Note that I have cross-posted to all three (Jetspeed, Pluto, and
WSRP4J) mailing lists.
To respond across mailing lists, respond to ALL.
Not sure if this is the
>est solution, since Im going to receive 3
emails being that Im a member of all 3 lists.
But this allows for a cross-discussions between the three developer
groups on this thread.
(I will also post this same message to the 3 user lists tomorrow.)
>
Regarding Cocoon's portal, I don't understand Cocoon's portal well
enough to say it should or should not be a part of portals.apache.org.
I have doubts that they would want to decouple from Cocoon, but you
don't know until you ask.
Of course th
> Cocoon community is welcome and we should discuss how
this can happen.
--
David Sean Taylor
Bluesunrise Software
david@bluesunrise.com
[office] +01 707 773-4646
[mobile] +01 707 529 9194
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RE: portals.apache.org
Posted by Marco Mari <dr...@tiscali.it>.
GREAT!
It's only my opinion, but I think it's a really good idea, and an important
step for portlet/portal technology...
>-- Messaggio Originale --
>Reply-To: "Jetspeed Developers List" <je...@jakarta.apache.org>
>Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:42:02 -0800
>Subject: portals.apache.org
>Cc: pluto-dev@jakarta.apache.org, wsrp4j-dev@ws.apache.org
>To: Jetspeed List <je...@jakarta.apache.org>
>From: David Sean Taylor <da...@bluesunrise.com>
>
>
>I would like to propose creating a new top level project (TLP) at
Apache: portals.apache.org
Before doing so, I've started this email thread to introduce the
concept.
Could you all please provide some feedback and opinions so we can see
if ever
>one stands behind this new TLP.
The proposal for portals.apache.org is based on bringing together
communities from all of the portal-related projects at Jakarta:
1. Jetspeed
2. Jetspeed-2
3. Pluto
4. WSRP-4J
5. Portlet Applications ....
>hese projects would be moved out of jakarta.apache.org and into
portals.apache.org for ex portals.apache.org/jetspeed or
portals.apache.org/pluto
Goals of portals.apache.org:
1. To promote the use of portlet applications. We view portlets as
>n
important technology in the growing portal and web application
environments. We intend to build freely available portlet
applications, portal servers, and portlet containers in order to
promote the use of this technology.
2. To encourage de
>elopers from all Apache portal projects to work
together and share common code
3. To develop Portlet Applications and Portlet Application frameworks
at portals.apache.org and grow the portal community here. Portlet
Applications will be managed a
> sub-projects.
Portal Applications will enable a higher level of application
development while cleanly separating the development of portals such as
Jetspeed from applications code.
4. To provide a community for portal-related Java and XML s
>andards and
reference implementations under the ASF license at portals.apache.org
Note that I have cross-posted to all three (Jetspeed, Pluto, and
WSRP4J) mailing lists.
To respond across mailing lists, respond to ALL.
Not sure if this is the
>est solution, since Im going to receive 3
emails being that Im a member of all 3 lists.
But this allows for a cross-discussions between the three developer
groups on this thread.
(I will also post this same message to the 3 user lists tomorrow.)
>
Regarding Cocoon's portal, I don't understand Cocoon's portal well
enough to say it should or should not be a part of portals.apache.org.
I have doubts that they would want to decouple from Cocoon, but you
don't know until you ask.
Of course th
> Cocoon community is welcome and we should discuss how
this can happen.
--
David Sean Taylor
Bluesunrise Software
david@bluesunrise.com
[office] +01 707 773-4646
[mobile] +01 707 529 9194
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RE: portals.apache.org
Posted by Carsten Ziegeler <cz...@s-und-n.de>.
David Sean Taylor wrote:
>
> <SNIP GREAT IDEA/>
+1
> Regarding Cocoon's portal, I don't understand Cocoon's portal well
> enough to say it should or should not be a part of portals.apache.org.
> I have doubts that they would want to decouple from Cocoon, but you
> don't know until you ask.
:) Ask and you get an answer :)
No, the cocoon portal is from the code size a big extension to cocoon.
Although we haven't discussed this a lot, it seems that we agree that
the long-term plan is to move the portal out of cocoon anyway, e.g.
as a Cocoon sub project (this is planned after the 2.2 release
of Cocoon which might happen sometime next year).
So, some of us already think that decoupling is a good think for
Cocoon. And I personally think that moving it to a portal project
at apache is better than as a subproject in cocoon.
I guess there will be a great overlap between jetspeed-2 and
the cocoon portal, so having them at the same place seems to
be the best solution. This would minimize could duplication etc.
Carsten
RE: portals.apache.org
Posted by Carsten Ziegeler <cz...@s-und-n.de>.
David Sean Taylor wrote:
>
> <SNIP GREAT IDEA/>
+1
> Regarding Cocoon's portal, I don't understand Cocoon's portal well
> enough to say it should or should not be a part of portals.apache.org.
> I have doubts that they would want to decouple from Cocoon, but you
> don't know until you ask.
:) Ask and you get an answer :)
No, the cocoon portal is from the code size a big extension to cocoon.
Although we haven't discussed this a lot, it seems that we agree that
the long-term plan is to move the portal out of cocoon anyway, e.g.
as a Cocoon sub project (this is planned after the 2.2 release
of Cocoon which might happen sometime next year).
So, some of us already think that decoupling is a good think for
Cocoon. And I personally think that moving it to a portal project
at apache is better than as a subproject in cocoon.
I guess there will be a great overlap between jetspeed-2 and
the cocoon portal, so having them at the same place seems to
be the best solution. This would minimize could duplication etc.
Carsten
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RE: portals.apache.org
Posted by Marco Mari <dr...@tiscali.it>.
GREAT!
It's only my opinion, but I think it's a really good idea, and an important
step for portlet/portal technology...
>-- Messaggio Originale --
>Reply-To: "Jetspeed Developers List" <je...@jakarta.apache.org>
>Date: Mon, 15 Dec 2003 13:42:02 -0800
>Subject: portals.apache.org
>Cc: pluto-dev@jakarta.apache.org, wsrp4j-dev@ws.apache.org
>To: Jetspeed List <je...@jakarta.apache.org>
>From: David Sean Taylor <da...@bluesunrise.com>
>
>
>I would like to propose creating a new top level project (TLP) at
Apache: portals.apache.org
Before doing so, I've started this email thread to introduce the
concept.
Could you all please provide some feedback and opinions so we can see
if ever
>one stands behind this new TLP.
The proposal for portals.apache.org is based on bringing together
communities from all of the portal-related projects at Jakarta:
1. Jetspeed
2. Jetspeed-2
3. Pluto
4. WSRP-4J
5. Portlet Applications ....
>hese projects would be moved out of jakarta.apache.org and into
portals.apache.org for ex portals.apache.org/jetspeed or
portals.apache.org/pluto
Goals of portals.apache.org:
1. To promote the use of portlet applications. We view portlets as
>n
important technology in the growing portal and web application
environments. We intend to build freely available portlet
applications, portal servers, and portlet containers in order to
promote the use of this technology.
2. To encourage de
>elopers from all Apache portal projects to work
together and share common code
3. To develop Portlet Applications and Portlet Application frameworks
at portals.apache.org and grow the portal community here. Portlet
Applications will be managed a
> sub-projects.
Portal Applications will enable a higher level of application
development while cleanly separating the development of portals such as
Jetspeed from applications code.
4. To provide a community for portal-related Java and XML s
>andards and
reference implementations under the ASF license at portals.apache.org
Note that I have cross-posted to all three (Jetspeed, Pluto, and
WSRP4J) mailing lists.
To respond across mailing lists, respond to ALL.
Not sure if this is the
>est solution, since Im going to receive 3
emails being that Im a member of all 3 lists.
But this allows for a cross-discussions between the three developer
groups on this thread.
(I will also post this same message to the 3 user lists tomorrow.)
>
Regarding Cocoon's portal, I don't understand Cocoon's portal well
enough to say it should or should not be a part of portals.apache.org.
I have doubts that they would want to decouple from Cocoon, but you
don't know until you ask.
Of course th
> Cocoon community is welcome and we should discuss how
this can happen.
--
David Sean Taylor
Bluesunrise Software
david@bluesunrise.com
[office] +01 707 773-4646
[mobile] +01 707 529 9194
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RE: portals.apache.org
Posted by Mark Orciuch <ma...@ngsltd.com>.
Great idea. You have my support.
Best regards,
Mark Orciuch - morciuch@apache.org
Jakarta Jetspeed - Enterprise Portal in Java
http://jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed/
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Sean Taylor [mailto:david@bluesunrise.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 3:42 PM
> To: Jetspeed List
> Cc: pluto-dev@jakarta.apache.org; wsrp4j-dev@ws.apache.org
> Subject: portals.apache.org
>
>
> I would like to propose creating a new top level project (TLP) at
> Apache: portals.apache.org
> Before doing so, I've started this email thread to introduce the
> concept.
> Could you all please provide some feedback and opinions so we can see
> if everyone stands behind this new TLP.
>
> The proposal for portals.apache.org is based on bringing together
> communities from all of the portal-related projects at Jakarta:
>
> 1. Jetspeed
> 2. Jetspeed-2
> 3. Pluto
> 4. WSRP-4J
> 5. Portlet Applications ....
>
> These projects would be moved out of jakarta.apache.org and into
> portals.apache.org for ex portals.apache.org/jetspeed or
> portals.apache.org/pluto
>
> Goals of portals.apache.org:
>
> 1. To promote the use of portlet applications. We view portlets as an
> important technology in the growing portal and web application
> environments. We intend to build freely available portlet
> applications, portal servers, and portlet containers in order to
> promote the use of this technology.
> 2. To encourage developers from all Apache portal projects to work
> together and share common code
> 3. To develop Portlet Applications and Portlet Application frameworks
> at portals.apache.org and grow the portal community here. Portlet
> Applications will be managed as sub-projects.
> Portal Applications will enable a higher level of application
> development while cleanly separating the development of portals such as
> Jetspeed from applications code.
> 4. To provide a community for portal-related Java and XML standards and
> reference implementations under the ASF license at portals.apache.org
>
> Note that I have cross-posted to all three (Jetspeed, Pluto, and
> WSRP4J) mailing lists.
> To respond across mailing lists, respond to ALL.
> Not sure if this is the best solution, since Im going to receive 3
> emails being that Im a member of all 3 lists.
> But this allows for a cross-discussions between the three developer
> groups on this thread.
> (I will also post this same message to the 3 user lists tomorrow.)
>
> Regarding Cocoon's portal, I don't understand Cocoon's portal well
> enough to say it should or should not be a part of portals.apache.org.
> I have doubts that they would want to decouple from Cocoon, but you
> don't know until you ask.
> Of course the Cocoon community is welcome and we should discuss how
> this can happen.
>
> --
> David Sean Taylor
> Bluesunrise Software
> david@bluesunrise.com
> [office] +01 707 773-4646
> [mobile] +01 707 529 9194
>
>
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