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RE: [jira] [Created] (CTAKES-226) CEM Templates- In the xxxMentions
locations/severity store Annotation instead of the BinaryTextRelation
other nice-to-have along these lines would be
(1) the words within the text that caused the annotation to be created.
(2) the words of the dictionary entry that caused the annotation to be created.
(1) is especially useful when there are intervening words within the text.
For the phrase "cancer of colon, lung and liver" annotated with 93870000 due to the words "cancer" and "liver"
(2) is especially useful when the preferred term does not share any words in common with a dictionary entry (due to synonyms)
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From: notifications-return-804-Masanz.James=mayo.edu@ctakes.apache.org [mailto:notifications-return-804-Masanz.James=mayo.edu@ctakes.apache.org] On Behalf Of Pei Chen (JIRA)
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Subject: [jira] [Created] (CTAKES-226) CEM Templates- In the xxxMentions locations/severity store Annotation instead of the BinaryTextRelation
Pei Chen created CTAKES-226:
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Summary: CEM Templates- In the xxxMentions locations/severity store Annotation instead of the BinaryTextRelation
Key: CTAKES-226
URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CTAKES-226
Project: cTAKES
Issue Type: Improvement
Affects Versions: 3.1
Reporter: Pei Chen
Fix For: future enhancement
> Hi James/Steven,
> In the common type system/template fillers, do you recall why we
> stored the TextRelation instead of the resolved annotation?
>
> For example, in SignSymptomMention, getBodyLocation() returns
> LocationOfTextRelation.
> So in order to actually get the AnatomicalSiteMention, you would have
> to look inside LocationOfTextRelation arg1 or arg2.
>
> I think it be more intuitive and simpler for consumers of the CEM's to
> just store the AnatomicalSiteMention? Is there a use case I am
> missing where someone would want something different than the
> SignSymptomMention.getBodyLocation() other than the actual
> AnatomicalSiteMention?
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Re: [jira] [Created] (CTAKES-226) CEM Templates- In the xxxMentions
locations/severity store Annotation instead of the BinaryTextRelation
Posted by "Wu, Stephen T., Ph.D." <Wu...@mayo.edu>.
We had similar discussion about including the cue words for negation or
uncertainty, etc. How would you use these cue words/dictionary words
after you've already done your NER or attribute discovery?
I think this is a little too similar to either using cue-word-based rules
for everything or basically including whole feature vectors for each
decision made.
stephen
On 8/21/13 1:26 PM, "Masanz, James J." <Ma...@mayo.edu> wrote:
>other nice-to-have along these lines would be
>(1) the words within the text that caused the annotation to be created.
>(2) the words of the dictionary entry that caused the annotation to be
>created.
>
>(1) is especially useful when there are intervening words within the
>text.
>For the phrase "cancer of colon, lung and liver" annotated with 93870000
>due to the words "cancer" and "liver"
>
>(2) is especially useful when the preferred term does not share any words
>in common with a dictionary entry (due to synonyms)
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: notifications-return-804-Masanz.James=mayo.edu@ctakes.apache.org
>[mailto:notifications-return-804-Masanz.James=mayo.edu@ctakes.apache.org]
>On Behalf Of Pei Chen (JIRA)
>Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 1:08 PM
>To: notifications@ctakes.apache.org
>Subject: [jira] [Created] (CTAKES-226) CEM Templates- In the xxxMentions
>locations/severity store Annotation instead of the BinaryTextRelation
>
>Pei Chen created CTAKES-226:
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>
> Summary: CEM Templates- In the xxxMentions
>locations/severity store Annotation instead of the BinaryTextRelation
> Key: CTAKES-226
> URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/CTAKES-226
> Project: cTAKES
> Issue Type: Improvement
> Affects Versions: 3.1
> Reporter: Pei Chen
> Fix For: future enhancement
>
>
>> Hi James/Steven,
>> In the common type system/template fillers, do you recall why we
>> stored the TextRelation instead of the resolved annotation?
>>
>> For example, in SignSymptomMention, getBodyLocation() returns
>> LocationOfTextRelation.
>> So in order to actually get the AnatomicalSiteMention, you would have
>> to look inside LocationOfTextRelation arg1 or arg2.
>>
>> I think it be more intuitive and simpler for consumers of the CEM's to
>> just store the AnatomicalSiteMention? Is there a use case I am
>> missing where someone would want something different than the
>> SignSymptomMention.getBodyLocation() other than the actual
>> AnatomicalSiteMention?
>
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>C19409B438EB81DE683A942D910588E15%40CHEXMBX1A.CHBOSTON.ORG%3E
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