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[jira] Created: (DIRSTUDIO-524) Operational attributes are not show, although enabled under preferences

Operational attributes are not show, although enabled under preferences
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                 Key: DIRSTUDIO-524
                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRSTUDIO-524
             Project: Directory Studio
          Issue Type: Bug
          Components: studio-ldapbrowser
    Affects Versions: 1.4.0
         Environment: Apache DS 1.0.2, Apache Studio 1.4.0 (official build)
            Reporter: Beat Burgener


Hi

Although I have enabled  the option "show operational attributes" under Preferenes; LDAP, Entry Editior, Attributes like "administrativerole" and "prescriptiveaci" are not show in the entry editor, but are available via the LDIF export, so they are here!

As I'm not the LDIF guru, an option to use the very nice gui to manage those would be great!

Maybe I did something wrong, but I couldn't figure out what?!

Thank you for lending me a hand

Beat

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[jira] Commented: (DIRSTUDIO-524) Operational attributes are not show, although enabled under preferences

Posted by "Beat Burgener (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
    [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRSTUDIO-524?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12747143#action_12747143 ] 

Beat Burgener commented on DIRSTUDIO-524:
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Well, again me ...

The option "Fetch Operational Attributes" affects only the level in the tree where you currently are and is not recursive nor does it survive an Studio restart.
I think a global option to enable fetching operation attributes on a global basis would be cool, but maybe there is one that I didn't find ...

ThanX

Beat

> Operational attributes are not show, although enabled under preferences
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: DIRSTUDIO-524
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRSTUDIO-524
>             Project: Directory Studio
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: studio-ldapbrowser
>    Affects Versions: 1.4.0
>         Environment: Apache DS 1.0.2, Apache Studio 1.4.0 (official build)
>            Reporter: Beat Burgener
>
> Hi
> Although I have enabled  the option "show operational attributes" under Preferenes; LDAP, Entry Editior, Attributes like "administrativerole" and "prescriptiveaci" are not show in the entry editor, but are available via the LDIF export, so they are here!
> As I'm not the LDIF guru, an option to use the very nice gui to manage those would be great!
> Maybe I did something wrong, but I couldn't figure out what?!
> Thank you for lending me a hand
> Beat

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[jira] Updated: (DIRSTUDIO-524) Operational attributes are not show, although enabled under preferences

Posted by "Beat Burgener (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
     [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRSTUDIO-524?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ]

Beat Burgener updated DIRSTUDIO-524:
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    Attachment: screenshot-1.jpg

Quick and dirty proposal ...

> Operational attributes are not show, although enabled under preferences
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: DIRSTUDIO-524
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRSTUDIO-524
>             Project: Directory Studio
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: studio-ldapbrowser
>    Affects Versions: 1.4.0
>         Environment: Apache DS 1.0.2, Apache Studio 1.4.0 (official build)
>            Reporter: Beat Burgener
>         Attachments: screenshot-1.jpg
>
>
> Hi
> Although I have enabled  the option "show operational attributes" under Preferenes; LDAP, Entry Editior, Attributes like "administrativerole" and "prescriptiveaci" are not show in the entry editor, but are available via the LDIF export, so they are here!
> As I'm not the LDIF guru, an option to use the very nice gui to manage those would be great!
> Maybe I did something wrong, but I couldn't figure out what?!
> Thank you for lending me a hand
> Beat

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[jira] Commented: (DIRSTUDIO-524) Operational attributes are not show, although enabled under preferences

Posted by "Stefan Seelmann (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
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Stefan Seelmann commented on DIRSTUDIO-524:
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Hi, Beat,

I hope my first reply didn't sound too harsh ;-) 
You are totally right, we changed the behaviour, because it was totally clear for us when implementing it. Hopefully, feedback like yours help us to not forget our users and provide better release notes etc.

Thanks for your suggestion about the additional info, that's a great idea. However, I wouldn't use a link because a link is used to jump to other preference pages. Instead I would suggest to either add a tooltip or to print a note directly, see attached scrrenshots. WDYT?


> Operational attributes are not show, although enabled under preferences
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: DIRSTUDIO-524
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRSTUDIO-524
>             Project: Directory Studio
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: studio-ldapbrowser
>    Affects Versions: 1.4.0
>         Environment: Apache DS 1.0.2, Apache Studio 1.4.0 (official build)
>            Reporter: Beat Burgener
>         Attachments: screenshot-1.jpg
>
>
> Hi
> Although I have enabled  the option "show operational attributes" under Preferenes; LDAP, Entry Editior, Attributes like "administrativerole" and "prescriptiveaci" are not show in the entry editor, but are available via the LDIF export, so they are here!
> As I'm not the LDIF guru, an option to use the very nice gui to manage those would be great!
> Maybe I did something wrong, but I couldn't figure out what?!
> Thank you for lending me a hand
> Beat

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[jira] Updated: (DIRSTUDIO-524) Operational attributes are not show, although enabled under preferences

Posted by "Beat Burgener (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
     [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRSTUDIO-524?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ]

Beat Burgener updated DIRSTUDIO-524:
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    Attachment: Proposal for hoover tip for very lazy admins which are left handed   ;-).jpg

> Operational attributes are not show, although enabled under preferences
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: DIRSTUDIO-524
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRSTUDIO-524
>             Project: Directory Studio
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: studio-ldapbrowser
>    Affects Versions: 1.4.0
>         Environment: Apache DS 1.0.2, Apache Studio 1.4.0 (official build)
>            Reporter: Beat Burgener
>         Attachments: operational_attributes.png, operational_attributes_2.png, Proposal for hoover tip for very lazy admins which are left handed   ;-).jpg, screenshot-1.jpg
>
>
> Hi
> Although I have enabled  the option "show operational attributes" under Preferenes; LDAP, Entry Editior, Attributes like "administrativerole" and "prescriptiveaci" are not show in the entry editor, but are available via the LDIF export, so they are here!
> As I'm not the LDIF guru, an option to use the very nice gui to manage those would be great!
> Maybe I did something wrong, but I couldn't figure out what?!
> Thank you for lending me a hand
> Beat

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[jira] Commented: (DIRSTUDIO-524) Operational attributes are not show, although enabled under preferences

Posted by "Beat Burgener (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
    [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRSTUDIO-524?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12747444#action_12747444 ] 

Beat Burgener commented on DIRSTUDIO-524:
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Stefan,

thank you for the swift reply. Well, I didn't do enough research though ...

;-)

>From your perspective and the issue 427, the place to globally enable this option is fully correct.
Searching the help does not easily reveal this, as the hit is somewhere on position 13
and also hidden there ...

And since enabling the view option did also alter the fetch behavior in former versions, I suggest adding an info
link to the view preferences screen (see screen shot) to point to an dedicated help/explain
page or to point to the connection property page ...

But this is only a suggestion to improve the learning curve of lazy administrators ...

Thank you



Beat

> Operational attributes are not show, although enabled under preferences
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: DIRSTUDIO-524
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRSTUDIO-524
>             Project: Directory Studio
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: studio-ldapbrowser
>    Affects Versions: 1.4.0
>         Environment: Apache DS 1.0.2, Apache Studio 1.4.0 (official build)
>            Reporter: Beat Burgener
>         Attachments: screenshot-1.jpg
>
>
> Hi
> Although I have enabled  the option "show operational attributes" under Preferenes; LDAP, Entry Editior, Attributes like "administrativerole" and "prescriptiveaci" are not show in the entry editor, but are available via the LDIF export, so they are here!
> As I'm not the LDIF guru, an option to use the very nice gui to manage those would be great!
> Maybe I did something wrong, but I couldn't figure out what?!
> Thank you for lending me a hand
> Beat

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[jira] Commented: (DIRSTUDIO-524) Operational attributes are not show, although enabled under preferences

Posted by "Beat Burgener (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
    [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRSTUDIO-524?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12747469#action_12747469 ] 

Beat Burgener commented on DIRSTUDIO-524:
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Stefan,

not at all! Was very easy to understand and also very kind!

I would vote for the second option to permanently display the info, which in turn might occupy space
needed for additional options later ....

I'm not sure how the tooltip text would be displayed if I only tick the check box without hoovering the 
description nor do I have any experience on how this will behave on different OS'es like Mac ...- I'm currently
using Windoooooof.

I'm definitively encourage some way to point that out, both options have their advantages and 
disadvantages ... 

Well, maybe a combination of both? What about a yellow exclamation sign displayed at the end of the
text if this option is ticket which shows the text when hoovered ... but also when hoovered over the text
itself ... Okey, may be this is to much though ...

Thank you for following up with this!

I'll attach a screen shot soon of what I think ...

Beat








> Operational attributes are not show, although enabled under preferences
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: DIRSTUDIO-524
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRSTUDIO-524
>             Project: Directory Studio
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: studio-ldapbrowser
>    Affects Versions: 1.4.0
>         Environment: Apache DS 1.0.2, Apache Studio 1.4.0 (official build)
>            Reporter: Beat Burgener
>         Attachments: operational_attributes.png, operational_attributes_2.png, screenshot-1.jpg
>
>
> Hi
> Although I have enabled  the option "show operational attributes" under Preferenes; LDAP, Entry Editior, Attributes like "administrativerole" and "prescriptiveaci" are not show in the entry editor, but are available via the LDIF export, so they are here!
> As I'm not the LDIF guru, an option to use the very nice gui to manage those would be great!
> Maybe I did something wrong, but I couldn't figure out what?!
> Thank you for lending me a hand
> Beat

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[jira] Closed: (DIRSTUDIO-524) Operational attributes are not show, although enabled under preferences

Posted by "Pierre-Arnaud Marcelot (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
     [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRSTUDIO-524?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ]

Pierre-Arnaud Marcelot closed DIRSTUDIO-524.
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Apache Directory studio version 1.5.0 has been released.

> Operational attributes are not show, although enabled under preferences
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: DIRSTUDIO-524
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRSTUDIO-524
>             Project: Directory Studio
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: studio-ldapbrowser
>    Affects Versions: 1.4.0
>         Environment: Apache DS 1.0.2, Apache Studio 1.4.0 (official build)
>            Reporter: Beat Burgener
>            Assignee: Stefan Seelmann
>             Fix For: 1.5.0
>
>         Attachments: operational_attributes.png, operational_attributes_2.png, Proposal for hoover tip for very lazy admins which are left handed   ;-).jpg, screenshot-1.jpg
>
>
> Hi
> Although I have enabled  the option "show operational attributes" under Preferenes; LDAP, Entry Editior, Attributes like "administrativerole" and "prescriptiveaci" are not show in the entry editor, but are available via the LDIF export, so they are here!
> As I'm not the LDIF guru, an option to use the very nice gui to manage those would be great!
> Maybe I did something wrong, but I couldn't figure out what?!
> Thank you for lending me a hand
> Beat

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[jira] Updated: (DIRSTUDIO-524) Operational attributes are not show, although enabled under preferences

Posted by "Stefan Seelmann (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
     [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRSTUDIO-524?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ]

Stefan Seelmann updated DIRSTUDIO-524:
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    Attachment: operational_attributes_2.png
                operational_attributes.png

> Operational attributes are not show, although enabled under preferences
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: DIRSTUDIO-524
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRSTUDIO-524
>             Project: Directory Studio
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: studio-ldapbrowser
>    Affects Versions: 1.4.0
>         Environment: Apache DS 1.0.2, Apache Studio 1.4.0 (official build)
>            Reporter: Beat Burgener
>         Attachments: operational_attributes.png, operational_attributes_2.png, screenshot-1.jpg
>
>
> Hi
> Although I have enabled  the option "show operational attributes" under Preferenes; LDAP, Entry Editior, Attributes like "administrativerole" and "prescriptiveaci" are not show in the entry editor, but are available via the LDIF export, so they are here!
> As I'm not the LDIF guru, an option to use the very nice gui to manage those would be great!
> Maybe I did something wrong, but I couldn't figure out what?!
> Thank you for lending me a hand
> Beat

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[jira] Resolved: (DIRSTUDIO-524) Operational attributes are not show, although enabled under preferences

Posted by "Stefan Seelmann (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
     [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRSTUDIO-524?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel ]

Stefan Seelmann resolved DIRSTUDIO-524.
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       Resolution: Fixed
    Fix Version/s: 1.5.0
         Assignee: Stefan Seelmann

I added the permanently displayed info.

Fixed in trunk: 
  http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=807981&view=rev


> Operational attributes are not show, although enabled under preferences
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: DIRSTUDIO-524
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRSTUDIO-524
>             Project: Directory Studio
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: studio-ldapbrowser
>    Affects Versions: 1.4.0
>         Environment: Apache DS 1.0.2, Apache Studio 1.4.0 (official build)
>            Reporter: Beat Burgener
>            Assignee: Stefan Seelmann
>             Fix For: 1.5.0
>
>         Attachments: operational_attributes.png, operational_attributes_2.png, Proposal for hoover tip for very lazy admins which are left handed   ;-).jpg, screenshot-1.jpg
>
>
> Hi
> Although I have enabled  the option "show operational attributes" under Preferenes; LDAP, Entry Editior, Attributes like "administrativerole" and "prescriptiveaci" are not show in the entry editor, but are available via the LDIF export, so they are here!
> As I'm not the LDIF guru, an option to use the very nice gui to manage those would be great!
> Maybe I did something wrong, but I couldn't figure out what?!
> Thank you for lending me a hand
> Beat

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[jira] Commented: (DIRSTUDIO-524) Operational attributes are not show, although enabled under preferences

Posted by "Beat Burgener (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
    [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRSTUDIO-524?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12747141#action_12747141 ] 

Beat Burgener commented on DIRSTUDIO-524:
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Okey, by accident found the "issue".

Operational attributes are NOT loaded by default, you have to use the "context menu" to enable/tick "Fetch Operational Attributes".

This is not very "intuitive" to me. Maybe this option should be turned on by default or linked with the "show operational attributes" or 
maybe available as additional option in the options dialog ...

However, it is clearly not a bug in that sense, sorry for bothering you

Beat

> Operational attributes are not show, although enabled under preferences
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: DIRSTUDIO-524
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRSTUDIO-524
>             Project: Directory Studio
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: studio-ldapbrowser
>    Affects Versions: 1.4.0
>         Environment: Apache DS 1.0.2, Apache Studio 1.4.0 (official build)
>            Reporter: Beat Burgener
>
> Hi
> Although I have enabled  the option "show operational attributes" under Preferenes; LDAP, Entry Editior, Attributes like "administrativerole" and "prescriptiveaci" are not show in the entry editor, but are available via the LDIF export, so they are here!
> As I'm not the LDIF guru, an option to use the very nice gui to manage those would be great!
> Maybe I did something wrong, but I couldn't figure out what?!
> Thank you for lending me a hand
> Beat

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[jira] Commented: (DIRSTUDIO-524) Operational attributes are not show, although enabled under preferences

Posted by "Stefan Seelmann (JIRA)" <ji...@apache.org>.
    [ https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRSTUDIO-524?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel&focusedCommentId=12747264#action_12747264 ] 

Stefan Seelmann commented on DIRSTUDIO-524:
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In former versions of studio, when enabling "show operational attributes" option, the operational attribures were loaded. However there were problems, see DIRSTUDIO-427 for details.

Now there are two levels on how to fetch operational attributes:
- per entry: as you already figured out above, by checking the option in the context menu
- per connection: to fetch operational for the whole connection you could enable the option "Fetch operational attributes while browsing" in the connection properties, tab "Browser Options"


> Operational attributes are not show, although enabled under preferences
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: DIRSTUDIO-524
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/DIRSTUDIO-524
>             Project: Directory Studio
>          Issue Type: Bug
>          Components: studio-ldapbrowser
>    Affects Versions: 1.4.0
>         Environment: Apache DS 1.0.2, Apache Studio 1.4.0 (official build)
>            Reporter: Beat Burgener
>
> Hi
> Although I have enabled  the option "show operational attributes" under Preferenes; LDAP, Entry Editior, Attributes like "administrativerole" and "prescriptiveaci" are not show in the entry editor, but are available via the LDIF export, so they are here!
> As I'm not the LDIF guru, an option to use the very nice gui to manage those would be great!
> Maybe I did something wrong, but I couldn't figure out what?!
> Thank you for lending me a hand
> Beat

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