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TinyMCE integration

I'd like to collect the bits and pieces missing for better TinyMCE integration.

Here is what I have:

1. TinyMCE 3.x

Lenya 2.3 Works with the current version 3.3.8. Check.

2. rng schema: Change TinyMCE dialogs to only offer attributes allows in XHTML strict.

Can be done with TinyMCE 3.3.8, with a bit of extra CSS, see

    https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=49580

3. Better display of TinyMCE editor page, without e.g., menus and breadcrumbs, 
just like the source editor page.

Please add the your open issues.

I'll go away on vacation at the end of this week, so I will be able to reply for 
a while.

  Rainer

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Re: TinyMCE integration

Posted by Florent André <fl...@4sengines.com>.
On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 08:17:08 +0200, Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>
wrote:
> Am 21.07.10 07:51, schrieb Rainer Schöpf:
>> On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 at 15:33 -0500, Richard Frovarp wrote:
>>
>>   >  On 07/20/2010 11:18 AM, Rainer Schöpf wrote:
>>   >  >  I'd like to collect the bits and pieces missing for better
>>   >  >  TinyMCE
>>   >  >  integration.
>>   >  >
>>   >  >  [...]
>>   >  >
>>   >  >  3. Better display of TinyMCE editor page, without e.g., menus
and
>>   >  >  breadcrumbs, just like the source editor page.
>>   >
>>   >
>>   >  What do others think of this? I know when TinyMCE was added, this
>>   >  was what
>>   >  those doing the work wanted. They wanted the editor to embed into
>>   >  the page
>>   >  context to which the content belonged.
>>
>> There is another argument against embedding the editor into the page
>> context:
>> clicking on a menu link while editing navigates to another page without
>> checking
>> in the changes.
> 
> Maybe the links could be deactivated using JavaScript?
> 
> Apart from that, I like it that the navigation widgets are visible when 
> the page is edited.

+1
Have the "context" during the edit is more user-friendly.

Another point : 

Documentation about installation instruction, witch version can be use,
patch have to be applied, is somewhere and easily accessible ? 
( I don't use this editor for now, so excuse me if this question is not
appropriate)

And of course : Big thank you for this work !

++

> 
> -- Andreas

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Re: TinyMCE integration

Posted by Andreas Hartmann <an...@apache.org>.
Am 21.07.10 07:51, schrieb Rainer Schöpf:
> On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 at 15:33 -0500, Richard Frovarp wrote:
>
>   >  On 07/20/2010 11:18 AM, Rainer Schöpf wrote:
>   >  >  I'd like to collect the bits and pieces missing for better TinyMCE
>   >  >  integration.
>   >  >
>   >  >  [...]
>   >  >
>   >  >  3. Better display of TinyMCE editor page, without e.g., menus and
>   >  >  breadcrumbs, just like the source editor page.
>   >
>   >
>   >  What do others think of this? I know when TinyMCE was added, this was what
>   >  those doing the work wanted. They wanted the editor to embed into the page
>   >  context to which the content belonged.
>
> There is another argument against embedding the editor into the page context:
> clicking on a menu link while editing navigates to another page without checking
> in the changes.

Maybe the links could be deactivated using JavaScript?

Apart from that, I like it that the navigation widgets are visible when 
the page is edited.

-- Andreas




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Re: TinyMCE integration

Posted by Rainer Schöpf <ra...@gmx.net>.
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 at 15:33 -0500, Richard Frovarp wrote:

 > On 07/20/2010 11:18 AM, Rainer Schöpf wrote:
 > > I'd like to collect the bits and pieces missing for better TinyMCE
 > > integration.
 > > 
 > > [...]
 > >
 > > 3. Better display of TinyMCE editor page, without e.g., menus and
 > > breadcrumbs, just like the source editor page.
 > 
 > 
 > What do others think of this? I know when TinyMCE was added, this was what
 > those doing the work wanted. They wanted the editor to embed into the page
 > context to which the content belonged.

There is another argument against embedding the editor into the page context: 
clicking on a menu link while editing navigates to another page without checking 
in the changes. 

 Rainer

Re: TinyMCE integration

Posted by Rainer Schöpf <ra...@gmx.net>.
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 at 15:33 -0500, Richard Frovarp wrote:

 > On 07/20/2010 11:18 AM, Rainer Schöpf wrote:
 > > I'd like to collect the bits and pieces missing for better TinyMCE
 > > integration.
 > > 
 > > Here is what I have:
 > > 
 > > 1. TinyMCE 3.x
 > > 
 > > Lenya 2.3 Works with the current version 3.3.8. Check.
 > 
 > Excellent
 > 
 > > 
 > > 2. rng schema: Change TinyMCE dialogs to only offer attributes allows in
 > > XHTML strict.
 > > 
 > > Can be done with TinyMCE 3.3.8, with a bit of extra CSS, see
 > > 
 > >    https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=49580
 > 
 > The 2.1.x branch now uses XHTML strict by default, which should help.
 > 
 > 
 > > 
 > > 3. Better display of TinyMCE editor page, without e.g., menus and
 > > breadcrumbs, just like the source editor page.
 > 
 > 
 > What do others think of this? I know when TinyMCE was added, this was what
 > those doing the work wanted. They wanted the editor to embed into the page
 > context to which the content belonged.

On the other hand, a similar appearance of the various editor pages might be 
preferable.

  Rainer

Re: TinyMCE integration

Posted by Richard Frovarp <rf...@apache.org>.
On 07/20/2010 11:18 AM, Rainer Schöpf wrote:
> I'd like to collect the bits and pieces missing for better TinyMCE 
> integration.
>
> Here is what I have:
>
> 1. TinyMCE 3.x
>
> Lenya 2.3 Works with the current version 3.3.8. Check.

Excellent

>
> 2. rng schema: Change TinyMCE dialogs to only offer attributes allows 
> in XHTML strict.
>
> Can be done with TinyMCE 3.3.8, with a bit of extra CSS, see
>
>    https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=49580

The 2.1.x branch now uses XHTML strict by default, which should help.


>
> 3. Better display of TinyMCE editor page, without e.g., menus and 
> breadcrumbs, just like the source editor page.


What do others think of this? I know when TinyMCE was added, this was 
what those doing the work wanted. They wanted the editor to embed into 
the page context to which the content belonged.

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