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Posted to woden-dev@ws.apache.org by Lawrence Mandel <lm...@ca.ibm.com> on 2006/09/26 18:12:40 UTC
Minutes of the Woden Status Telecon, 2006-09-26
Attendees: Lawrence Mandel, John Kaputin, Arthur Ryman, Jeremy Hughes,
Graham Turrell
Regrets: Oshani Seneviratne
Minutes
1. Open Action Items - Lawrence Mandel
2006-09-12 - John to liaise with Chinthaka on when these will be
available, how soon afterwards Woden M6 can be available and confirm that
Axis2 will actually pick up this M6 release of Woden.
2006-09-26
John: XmlSchema and Axiom have been released. M6 should be ready. I
haven't received confirmation that Axis2 will bundle M6.
2006-09-12 - Arthur to check on W3C WSDL2 WG time frame for PR phase and
next interop event and feedback to Woden community.
2006-09-26
Arthur: November 13 is the tentative date for the interop event. The
likely site is at Canon in France. PR timing looks like June.
John: Jonathan Marsh was going to check with Paul Downing to see if he's
interested in participating in the interop event. One possibility is to do
a couple days in the UK. Also, Sanjiva and Paul indicated they'd be
interested in participating in a European interop event.
2006-09-12 - John to revise an M7 plan (based on original M6 plan),
distribute, then try to finalize at next week's telecon.
2006-09-26
John: I did a quick update on the milestone plan on the website. The M7
plan is the M6 plan with a couple items added at the bottom. URI resolver,
removing DOM dependency and completing the Axiom implementation. Please
comment.
Arthur: Can we adjust the date for the interop event?
John: Sure.
Closed.
2006-09-12 - John to complete review of Oshani's code in WODEN-44
2006-09-26
John: I've completed half. More to do.
2006-09-12 - ALL - review Jeremy's WODEN-40 branch.
2006-09-26
John: I reviewed it after it was merged. Looks good to me.
Arthur: Is there an easy way to compare the branch with the trunk?
Jeremy: Yes. In Eclipse. Use compare.
2006-09-12 - John, or others, review Graham's WODEN-14 patch
2006-09-26
Jeremy: I had a look. I spoke with Graham about putting a test together so
we can easily test this enhancement.
Graham: No update on the test yet.
2006-09-12 - John circulate his Telecon number for next weeks call.
2006-09-26
Lawrence: This action is no longer applicable.
Closed.
Deferred, pending other actions:
2006-09-12 - John will update the M7 plan on the website once finalized.
2006-09-26
John: Done.
Closed.
2006-09-12 - John will add Oshani to the website's committers list when
updating the M7 plan.
John: Done.
Closed.
2. Milestone (M6/M7) Status - John Kaputin
Jeremy: Arthur found some NPEs.
Arthur: I found two JUnit failures and a problem with the Ant task. I
haven't had time to diagnose the source of the problem. I posted about the
problems to the list.
John: I think the problem is the test cases aren't in the W3C test case.
Arthur: So the JUnit test suite probably doesn't test everything in the
W3C test suite.
Lawrence: Correct. It's hard coded. We discussed a dynamic way to extract
and test the W3C test suite.
[Action] Jeremy will investigate a method for testing the W3C test suite
based on what he did with XmlSchema.
John: In terms of time frame we either do an M6 with what we've got or fix
the test cases and get the test suite up to date. The reason for doing M6
is to get Axis and up-to-date build.
Arthur: I don't think there's anything wrong with declaring M6 now and
fixing the few failures afterwards. We've got a very high pass rate.
[Action] John will investigate the 2 Jiras Arthur's raised for the JUnit
failures.
Arthur: Do we have tests to contribute to the W3C?
John: Yes. I've created some WSDL docs for the Woden test suite.
John: According to the Apache process we need to sign our releases. I'm
looking into this and if we'll need to do this for M6 or if we can
postpone for M7.
John: We have enough votes for M6. I'll start the incubator PMC approval
after this call.
3.Development Discussion - All
Jeremy: I posted to the list about splitting up the build. Please read and
comment.
John: There's a need to help complete the test suite. The working group
page has a coverage report that shows what else needs to be covered.
Arthur: We're pretty good about covering the elements and attributes. The
bulk of the work going forward is to check the validator. We need two
things: a test that violates each assertion and a check in Woden that
catches the failure.
Arthur: As a heads up, features and properties will likely be removed from
the spec.
4. Other Business - Open
No other business was raised.
Thanks,
Lawrence Mandel
Re: Minutes of the Woden Status Telecon, 2006-09-26
Posted by Oshani Seneviratne <os...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
I can dial the number, but when I put in the conference ID at the prompt, it
would not connect me to the telecon. So what I usually do is, wait for 3 of
those prompts without putting the conference ID, and ask the operator to
connect me through.
Oshani
On 9/26/06, Lawrence Mandel <lm...@ca.ibm.com> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Chinthaka,
>
> At this point I have to assume that the problems you had in dialling in
> were due to Skype. AFAIK, everyone else was using a standard telephone. The
> numbers are the same as they have been since the beginning of the summer.
>
> Oshani - We worked out a problem you were having in dialling into the
> calls using Skype. Can you provide a step-by-step of how you dial in for
> Chinthaka to try?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lawrence
>
>
>
> *Eran Chinthaka <ch...@opensource.lk>*
>
> 09/26/2006 01:23 PM Please respond to
> woden-dev@ws.apache.org
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> To
> woden-dev@ws.apache.org cc
>
> Subject
> Re: Minutes of the Woden Status Telecon, 2006-09-26
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Lawrence Mandel wrote:
> >
> >
> > 2006-09-12 - John to liaise with Chinthaka on when these will be
> > available, how soon afterwards Woden M6 can be available and confirm
> > that Axis2 will actually pick up this M6 release of Woden.
> > 2006-09-26
> > John: XmlSchema and Axiom have been released. M6 should be ready. I
> > haven't received confirmation that Axis2 will bundle M6.
>
> I confirm that we (in Axis2) will use Woden M6 for our next release !!
>
> BTW, I had problems in dialing in this time. One number simply didn't
> work and the other gave me an out-of-office message. Can we please
> update the website with proper numbers. I know for some it had worked.
> Isn't this ask for some one to see what had gone wrong?
>
> Thanks,
> Chinthaka
>
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Re: Minutes of the Woden Status Telecon, 2006-09-26
Posted by Lawrence Mandel <lm...@ca.ibm.com>.
Hi Chinthaka,
At this point I have to assume that the problems you had in dialling in
were due to Skype. AFAIK, everyone else was using a standard telephone.
The numbers are the same as they have been since the beginning of the
summer.
Oshani - We worked out a problem you were having in dialling into the
calls using Skype. Can you provide a step-by-step of how you dial in for
Chinthaka to try?
Thanks,
Lawrence
Eran Chinthaka <ch...@opensource.lk>
09/26/2006 01:23 PM
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woden-dev@ws.apache.org
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Lawrence Mandel wrote:
>
>
> 2006-09-12 - John to liaise with Chinthaka on when these will be
> available, how soon afterwards Woden M6 can be available and confirm
> that Axis2 will actually pick up this M6 release of Woden.
> 2006-09-26
> John: XmlSchema and Axiom have been released. M6 should be ready. I
> haven't received confirmation that Axis2 will bundle M6.
I confirm that we (in Axis2) will use Woden M6 for our next release !!
BTW, I had problems in dialing in this time. One number simply didn't
work and the other gave me an out-of-office message. Can we please
update the website with proper numbers. I know for some it had worked.
Isn't this ask for some one to see what had gone wrong?
Thanks,
Chinthaka
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Re: Minutes of the Woden Status Telecon, 2006-09-26
Posted by Eran Chinthaka <ch...@opensource.lk>.
Lawrence Mandel wrote:
>
>
> 2006-09-12 - John to liaise with Chinthaka on when these will be
> available, how soon afterwards Woden M6 can be available and confirm
> that Axis2 will actually pick up this M6 release of Woden.
> 2006-09-26
> John: XmlSchema and Axiom have been released. M6 should be ready. I
> haven't received confirmation that Axis2 will bundle M6.
I confirm that we (in Axis2) will use Woden M6 for our next release !!
BTW, I had problems in dialing in this time. One number simply didn't
work and the other gave me an out-of-office message. Can we please
update the website with proper numbers. I know for some it had worked.
Isn't this ask for some one to see what had gone wrong?
Thanks,
Chinthaka
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Re: Minutes of the Woden Status Telecon, 2006-09-26
Posted by Arthur Ryman <ry...@ca.ibm.com>.
Lawrence,
I believe if we have a good interop event Nov 14-18, then we can quickly
exit CR and go to PR early in 2007, so we would be a Rec in June 2007.
Arthur Ryman,
IBM Software Group, Rational Division
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"Jeremy Hughes" <hu...@apache.org>
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09/27/2006 04:44 AM
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Hi, some comments in line ..
On 9/26/06, Lawrence Mandel <lm...@ca.ibm.com> wrote:
>
> Attendees: Lawrence Mandel, John Kaputin, Arthur Ryman, Jeremy Hughes,
> Graham Turrell
> Regrets: Oshani Seneviratne
>
> Minutes
>
> 1. Open Action Items - Lawrence Mandel
>
> 2006-09-12 - John to liaise with Chinthaka on when these will be
available,
> how soon afterwards Woden M6 can be available and confirm that Axis2
will
> actually pick up this M6 release of Woden.
> 2006-09-26
> John: XmlSchema and Axiom have been released. M6 should be ready. I
haven't
> received confirmation that Axis2 will bundle M6.
>
> 2006-09-12 - Arthur to check on W3C WSDL2 WG time frame for PR phase
and
> next interop event and feedback to Woden community.
> 2006-09-26
> Arthur: November 13 is the tentative date for the interop event. The
likely
> site is at Canon in France. PR timing looks like June.
I thought June was the potential 'recommendation' date
> John: Jonathan Marsh was going to check with Paul Downing to see if he's
> interested in participating in the interop event. One possibility is to
do a
> couple days in the UK. Also, Sanjiva and Paul indicated they'd be
interested
> in participating in a European interop event.
>
> 2006-09-12 - John to revise an M7 plan (based on original M6 plan),
> distribute, then try to finalize at next week's telecon.
> 2006-09-26
> John: I did a quick update on the milestone plan on the website. The M7
plan
> is the M6 plan with a couple items added at the bottom. URI resolver,
> removing DOM dependency and completing the Axiom implementation. Please
> comment.
> Arthur: Can we adjust the date for the interop event?
> John: Sure.
> Closed.
>
> 2006-09-12 - John to complete review of Oshani's code in WODEN-44
> 2006-09-26
> John: I've completed half. More to do.
>
> 2006-09-12 - ALL - review Jeremy's WODEN-40 branch.
> 2006-09-26
> John: I reviewed it after it was merged. Looks good to me.
> Arthur: Is there an easy way to compare the branch with the trunk?
> Jeremy: Yes. In Eclipse. Use compare.
BTW: WODEN-40 is now merged into the trunk. If you'd like to see the
diff you can either see the 4 SVN commit emails on the mail archive:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ws-woden-dev/200609.mbox/date
(search for r447385)
>
> 2006-09-12 - John, or others, review Graham's WODEN-14 patch
> 2006-09-26
> Jeremy: I had a look. I spoke with Graham about putting a test together
so
> we can easily test this enhancement.
> Graham: No update on the test yet.
>
> 2006-09-12 - John circulate his Telecon number for next weeks call.
> 2006-09-26
> Lawrence: This action is no longer applicable.
> Closed.
>
> Deferred, pending other actions:
>
> 2006-09-12 - John will update the M7 plan on the website once
finalized.
> 2006-09-26
> John: Done.
> Closed.
>
> 2006-09-12 - John will add Oshani to the website's committers list when
> updating the M7 plan.
> John: Done.
> Closed.
>
> 2. Milestone (M6/M7) Status - John Kaputin
>
> Jeremy: Arthur found some NPEs.
> Arthur: I found two JUnit failures and a problem with the Ant task. I
> haven't had time to diagnose the source of the problem. I posted about
the
> problems to the list.
> John: I think the problem is the test cases aren't in the W3C test case.
> Arthur: So the JUnit test suite probably doesn't test everything in the
W3C
> test suite.
> Lawrence: Correct. It's hard coded. We discussed a dynamic way to
extract
> and test the W3C test suite.
> [Action] Jeremy will investigate a method for testing the W3C test suite
> based on what he did with XmlSchema.
> John: In terms of time frame we either do an M6 with what we've got or
fix
> the test cases and get the test suite up to date. The reason for doing
M6 is
> to get Axis and up-to-date build.
> Arthur: I don't think there's anything wrong with declaring M6 now and
> fixing the few failures afterwards. We've got a very high pass rate.
> [Action] John will investigate the 2 Jiras Arthur's raised for the JUnit
> failures.
> Arthur: Do we have tests to contribute to the W3C?
> John: Yes. I've created some WSDL docs for the Woden test suite.
>
> John: According to the Apache process we need to sign our releases. I'm
> looking into this and if we'll need to do this for M6 or if we can
postpone
> for M7.
>
> John: We have enough votes for M6. I'll start the incubator PMC approval
> after this call.
>
> 3.Development Discussion - All
>
> Jeremy: I posted to the list about splitting up the build. Please read
and
> comment.
>
> John: There's a need to help complete the test suite. The working group
page
> has a coverage report that shows what else needs to be covered.
> Arthur: We're pretty good about covering the elements and attributes.
The
> bulk of the work going forward is to check the validator. We need two
> things: a test that violates each assertion and a check in Woden that
> catches the failure.
>
> Arthur: As a heads up, features and properties will likely be removed
from
> the spec.
>
> 4. Other Business - Open
>
> No other business was raised.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lawrence Mandel
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Re: Minutes of the Woden Status Telecon, 2006-09-26
Posted by Jeremy Hughes <hu...@apache.org>.
Hi, some comments in line ..
On 9/26/06, Lawrence Mandel <lm...@ca.ibm.com> wrote:
>
> Attendees: Lawrence Mandel, John Kaputin, Arthur Ryman, Jeremy Hughes,
> Graham Turrell
> Regrets: Oshani Seneviratne
>
> Minutes
>
> 1. Open Action Items - Lawrence Mandel
>
> 2006-09-12 - John to liaise with Chinthaka on when these will be available,
> how soon afterwards Woden M6 can be available and confirm that Axis2 will
> actually pick up this M6 release of Woden.
> 2006-09-26
> John: XmlSchema and Axiom have been released. M6 should be ready. I haven't
> received confirmation that Axis2 will bundle M6.
>
> 2006-09-12 - Arthur to check on W3C WSDL2 WG time frame for PR phase and
> next interop event and feedback to Woden community.
> 2006-09-26
> Arthur: November 13 is the tentative date for the interop event. The likely
> site is at Canon in France. PR timing looks like June.
I thought June was the potential 'recommendation' date
> John: Jonathan Marsh was going to check with Paul Downing to see if he's
> interested in participating in the interop event. One possibility is to do a
> couple days in the UK. Also, Sanjiva and Paul indicated they'd be interested
> in participating in a European interop event.
>
> 2006-09-12 - John to revise an M7 plan (based on original M6 plan),
> distribute, then try to finalize at next week's telecon.
> 2006-09-26
> John: I did a quick update on the milestone plan on the website. The M7 plan
> is the M6 plan with a couple items added at the bottom. URI resolver,
> removing DOM dependency and completing the Axiom implementation. Please
> comment.
> Arthur: Can we adjust the date for the interop event?
> John: Sure.
> Closed.
>
> 2006-09-12 - John to complete review of Oshani's code in WODEN-44
> 2006-09-26
> John: I've completed half. More to do.
>
> 2006-09-12 - ALL - review Jeremy's WODEN-40 branch.
> 2006-09-26
> John: I reviewed it after it was merged. Looks good to me.
> Arthur: Is there an easy way to compare the branch with the trunk?
> Jeremy: Yes. In Eclipse. Use compare.
BTW: WODEN-40 is now merged into the trunk. If you'd like to see the
diff you can either see the 4 SVN commit emails on the mail archive:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/ws-woden-dev/200609.mbox/date
(search for r447385)
>
> 2006-09-12 - John, or others, review Graham's WODEN-14 patch
> 2006-09-26
> Jeremy: I had a look. I spoke with Graham about putting a test together so
> we can easily test this enhancement.
> Graham: No update on the test yet.
>
> 2006-09-12 - John circulate his Telecon number for next weeks call.
> 2006-09-26
> Lawrence: This action is no longer applicable.
> Closed.
>
> Deferred, pending other actions:
>
> 2006-09-12 - John will update the M7 plan on the website once finalized.
> 2006-09-26
> John: Done.
> Closed.
>
> 2006-09-12 - John will add Oshani to the website's committers list when
> updating the M7 plan.
> John: Done.
> Closed.
>
> 2. Milestone (M6/M7) Status - John Kaputin
>
> Jeremy: Arthur found some NPEs.
> Arthur: I found two JUnit failures and a problem with the Ant task. I
> haven't had time to diagnose the source of the problem. I posted about the
> problems to the list.
> John: I think the problem is the test cases aren't in the W3C test case.
> Arthur: So the JUnit test suite probably doesn't test everything in the W3C
> test suite.
> Lawrence: Correct. It's hard coded. We discussed a dynamic way to extract
> and test the W3C test suite.
> [Action] Jeremy will investigate a method for testing the W3C test suite
> based on what he did with XmlSchema.
> John: In terms of time frame we either do an M6 with what we've got or fix
> the test cases and get the test suite up to date. The reason for doing M6 is
> to get Axis and up-to-date build.
> Arthur: I don't think there's anything wrong with declaring M6 now and
> fixing the few failures afterwards. We've got a very high pass rate.
> [Action] John will investigate the 2 Jiras Arthur's raised for the JUnit
> failures.
> Arthur: Do we have tests to contribute to the W3C?
> John: Yes. I've created some WSDL docs for the Woden test suite.
>
> John: According to the Apache process we need to sign our releases. I'm
> looking into this and if we'll need to do this for M6 or if we can postpone
> for M7.
>
> John: We have enough votes for M6. I'll start the incubator PMC approval
> after this call.
>
> 3.Development Discussion - All
>
> Jeremy: I posted to the list about splitting up the build. Please read and
> comment.
>
> John: There's a need to help complete the test suite. The working group page
> has a coverage report that shows what else needs to be covered.
> Arthur: We're pretty good about covering the elements and attributes. The
> bulk of the work going forward is to check the validator. We need two
> things: a test that violates each assertion and a check in Woden that
> catches the failure.
>
> Arthur: As a heads up, features and properties will likely be removed from
> the spec.
>
> 4. Other Business - Open
>
> No other business was raised.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lawrence Mandel
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