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Posted to users@spamassassin.apache.org by Reg Clemens <re...@dwf.com> on 2009/12/10 06:13:53 UTC

Question about Dcc.

I have just loaded the v3.2.5 from the Fedora-11 RPM.

I see the comment that Dcc is not loaded by default  due to license issues.
I also see the line
    #loadplugin Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::DC
in v310.pre which would confirm that fact.

My question is this: there are two issues with respect to Dcc, running it, and
then looking at the line that it adds to the code to see if the message should 
be kept or not.

I run Dcc and spamassassin from my .procmailrc script (This is historical, I 
could change this
if necessary).  with the following:

---

# DCC Processing ....................

:0fw
| /usr/local/bin/dccproc

# SpamAssassin Processing............

:0fw
| /usr/bin/spamc

# Spam to file or /dev/null..........

:0:
* ^X-Spam-Status: Yes
|$RCV +SpamX

:0:
* ! ^Message-Id: [ ]*<[^ <>@]+@[^ <>@]+>[ ]*$
|$RCV +SpamX

---

So my question is: does loading the above plugin control RUNNING Dcc, or 
testing its results or both?
Even if it thinks that it didn't RUN Dcc, will it test for the result as would 
be necessary with
the above code and no uncommenting of the loadplugin line.

As noted, the above code is historical, it seems to be working, but I would 
like to verify
that it is REALLY working with the current spamassassin, and not just putting 
the Dcc
line in the message, and then ignoring it.

Thanks
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                                        Reg.Clemens
                                        reg@dwf.com



Re: AW: Question about Dcc.

Posted by Michael Scheidell <sc...@secnap.net>.
this was a specific answer to a specific question and dfw is using procmail

your problem has nothing to do with this.


Hans-Werner Friedemann wrote:
> I never had procmail installed on my system......
> So i can´t understand why DCC doesn´t work any more!!!!
>
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> *Betreff:* Re: Question about Dcc.
>
> Reg Clemens wrote:
>> I have just loaded the v3.2.5 from the Fedora-11 RPM.
>>
>> I see the comment that Dcc is not loaded by default  due to license issues.
>> I also see the line
>>     #loadplugin Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::DC
>> in v310.pre which would confirm that fact.
>>
>>   
> SA isn't running DCC, so it won't score it, won't be part of meta scores.
>
> you are running DCC from procmail below.
>
> so, if you want to run DCC from SA, uncomment the line in 310, comment 
> the lines in procmail and reload SA.
>
> doublecheck to make sure dcc is running, you might want to start 
> dccifd, and make sure SA (in local.cf) is pointing to the right socket.
>
> from this point on, you should look at DCC web site to make sure you 
> have DCC set up right.
>
>
>
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AW: Question about Dcc.

Posted by Hans-Werner Friedemann <h-...@vds-herzberg.de>.
I never had procmail installed on my system......
So i can´t understand why DCC doesn´t work any more!!!!

________________________________

Von: Michael Scheidell [mailto:scheidell@secnap.net] 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 10. Dezember 2009 12:59
An: Reg Clemens
Cc: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Question about Dcc.


Reg Clemens wrote: 

	I have just loaded the v3.2.5 from the Fedora-11 RPM.
	
	I see the comment that Dcc is not loaded by default  due to license issues.
	I also see the line
	    #loadplugin Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::DC
	in v310.pre which would confirm that fact.
	
	  

SA isn't running DCC, so it won't score it, won't be part of meta scores.

you are running DCC from procmail below.

so, if you want to run DCC from SA, uncomment the line in 310, comment the lines in procmail and reload SA.

doublecheck to make sure dcc is running, you might want to start dccifd, and make sure SA (in local.cf) is pointing to the right socket.

from this point on, you should look at DCC web site to make sure you have DCC set up right.




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Re: Question about Dcc.

Posted by Reg Clemens <re...@dwf.com>.
Thanks for all than responded.
This setup (running Dcc from .procmailrc worked with a previous version of
SpamAssassin, before anyone thought of plugins.  I didn't want to modify
things if it was still working...

But from the comments, I will load the module and run Dcc from Spamassassin.

Thanks 
-- 
                                        Reg.Clemens
                                        reg@dwf.com



Re: Question about Dcc.

Posted by Michael Scheidell <sc...@secnap.net>.
Reg Clemens wrote:
> I have just loaded the v3.2.5 from the Fedora-11 RPM.
>
> I see the comment that Dcc is not loaded by default  due to license issues.
> I also see the line
>     #loadplugin Mail::SpamAssassin::Plugin::DC
> in v310.pre which would confirm that fact.
>
>   
SA isn't running DCC, so it won't score it, won't be part of meta scores.

you are running DCC from procmail below.

so, if you want to run DCC from SA, uncomment the line in 310, comment 
the lines in procmail and reload SA.

doublecheck to make sure dcc is running, you might want to start dccifd, 
and make sure SA (in local.cf) is pointing to the right socket.

from this point on, you should look at DCC web site to make sure you 
have DCC set up right.



-- 
Michael Scheidell, CTO
Phone: 561-999-5000, x 1259
 > *| *SECNAP Network Security Corporation

    * Certified SNORT Integrator
    * 2008-9 Hot Company Award Winner, World Executive Alliance
    * Five-Star Partner Program 2009, VARBusiness
    * Best Anti-Spam Product 2008, Network Products Guide
    * King of Spam Filters, SC Magazine 2008


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Re: Question about Dcc.

Posted by Matus UHLAR - fantomas <uh...@fantomas.sk>.
On 10.12.09 12:47, Hans-Werner Friedemann wrote:
> My DCC isn´t running very well :O(
> I´ve installed him by the restrictions which named here: http://www.artif-orange.de/internet/wissenswertes/dcc-spamassassin.html
> But in spamd.log DCC doesn´t appear!!!!

did you install dcc AND uncommented DCC loading AND reload spamd after?
If you run spamassassin -D, does it say anything about DCC?

btw, personal copied are unwanted in list mail.
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AW: Question about Dcc.

Posted by Hans-Werner Friedemann <h-...@vds-herzberg.de>.
My DCC isn´t running very well :O(
I´ve installed him by the restrictions which named here: http://www.artif-orange.de/internet/wissenswertes/dcc-spamassassin.html
But in spamd.log DCC doesn´t appear!!!!


 

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: Matus UHLAR - fantomas [mailto:uhlar@fantomas.sk] 
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 10. Dezember 2009 11:23
An: users@spamassassin.apache.org
Betreff: Re: Question about Dcc.

On 09.12.09 22:13, Reg Clemens wrote:
> I see the comment that Dcc is not loaded by default  due to license issues.

> My question is this: there are two issues with respect to Dcc, running 
> it, and then looking at the line that it adds to the code to see if 
> the message should be kept or not.
> 
> I run Dcc and spamassassin from my .procmailrc script (This is 
> historical, I could change this if necessary).  with the following:

> :0fw
> | /usr/local/bin/dccproc
> :0fw
> | /usr/bin/spamc

> So my question is: does loading the above plugin control RUNNING Dcc, 
> or testing its results or both?
> Even if it thinks that it didn't RUN Dcc, will it test for the result 
> as would be necessary with the above code and no uncommenting of the 
> loadplugin line.

SA won't check/evaluate anything DCC related if the plugin is not loaded.
If you have the plugin enabled, it's kinda useless to tun DCC check from procmail, although I think DCC plugin will use the result.

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Re: Question about Dcc.

Posted by Matus UHLAR - fantomas <uh...@fantomas.sk>.
On 09.12.09 22:13, Reg Clemens wrote:
> I see the comment that Dcc is not loaded by default  due to license issues.

> My question is this: there are two issues with respect to Dcc, running it, and
> then looking at the line that it adds to the code to see if the message should 
> be kept or not.
> 
> I run Dcc and spamassassin from my .procmailrc script (This is historical, I 
> could change this
> if necessary).  with the following:

> :0fw
> | /usr/local/bin/dccproc
> :0fw
> | /usr/bin/spamc

> So my question is: does loading the above plugin control RUNNING Dcc, or 
> testing its results or both?
> Even if it thinks that it didn't RUN Dcc, will it test for the result as would 
> be necessary with
> the above code and no uncommenting of the loadplugin line.

SA won't check/evaluate anything DCC related if the plugin is not loaded.
If you have the plugin enabled, it's kinda useless to tun DCC check from
procmail, although I think DCC plugin will use the result.

-- 
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WinError #98652: Operation completed successfully.