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Your opinion on ShieldUI

Hi.

I'm looking for available options to build nice looking UIs using Apache Wicket without developing stylesheets and graphics myself. 
What I found was Wicket-JQuery-UI, Wicket Bootstrap and ShieldUI.
Where ShieldUI seems to be the most complete one. But I couldn’t find much additional info, like which Wicket version is actually supported.

But how is unit testability compared to the standard widgets? 
Do all those also use the Wicket Model classes as the standard widgets? 
Are there other alternative for out-of-the box nice looking widgets for Apache Wicket?

What is your opinion on ShieldUI compared to the other options.



Manfred
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Re: Your opinion on ShieldUI

Posted by Martin Grigorov <ma...@gmail.com>.
On Oct 5, 2016 8:19 PM, "Manfred Bergmann" <mb...@software-by-mabe.com> wrote:
>
> Martin Grigorov-4 wrote
> > I don't have experience with the ShieldUI integration.
>
> From the available widgets it seems impressive.
> http://www.shieldui.com/products/java-wicket
>
> I don't know how good this stuff really is. The GitHub page doesn't list
> many issues and there are only two maintainers.
> But that doesn't necessarily mean much.
> Anyone using this out there?

I know the library. I just haven't used it myself so far.
Actually one of the developers (Vladimir) is an ex-colleague of mine.
I've seen people asking questions about the integration at StackOverflow
and he responds there.

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Re: Your opinion on ShieldUI

Posted by Manfred Bergmann <mb...@software-by-mabe.com>.
Martin Grigorov-4 wrote
> I don't have experience with the ShieldUI integration.

From the available widgets it seems impressive.
http://www.shieldui.com/products/java-wicket

I don't know how good this stuff really is. The GitHub page doesn't list
many issues and there are only two maintainers.
But that doesn't necessarily mean much.
Anyone using this out there?


Manfred

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Re: Your opinion on ShieldUI

Posted by Sebastien <se...@gmail.com>.
>
>
> Sorry for those possibly dump questions.
> I'm more the functional UI and backend developer. This styling and layout
> should better be done by someone else. But I'd like to understand how it
> works.
>

I personnaly use fundation for the layout part. It works well with kendo
(at least), but it requires a custom download (only minimal layout stuff,
no form styling, etc) otherwise it will conflict with kendo widget styling.

Re: Your opinion on ShieldUI

Posted by Manfred Bergmann <mb...@software-by-mabe.com>.
Sebastien wrote
> Hi,
> 
> On Oct 6, 2016 15:22, "Manfred Bergmann" &lt;

> mb@

> &gt; wrote:
>>
>> martin-g wrote
>> > On Oct 5, 2016 7:52 PM, "Manfred Bergmann" &lt;
>>
>> > mb@
>>
>> > &gt; wrote:
>> >>
>> >> OK, thanks for you reply.
>> >>
>> >> What's the state of Wicket-Foundation?
>> >> I mean, is it mature enough for a large enterprise application?
>> >
>> > Dunno.
>> > Someone from the community contributed it a while back.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> I assume that Wicket-JQuery-UI and Wicket-Bootstrap is?
>> >
>> > I'd say - yes!
>>
>> Bootstrap has a very nice baseCSS. Is this applied to the standard Wicket
>> widgets automatically?
>>
>> If I want to use a widget from elsewhere, say jQuery or Kendo, does it
> clash
>> with it's CSS?
> 
> All kendo css classes are "k-" prefixed, so I don't think there will be
> conflicts. For jQuery ui, there are "ui-" predixed iirc.
> 
> Just a warning however, both frameworks are big/complete frameworks, so
> will end up with 2 big js and 2 big css...

Alright, yep. Understood. When mixing Kendo UI and jQuery UI. So at best one
should stick with one widget library.

The Wicket-Bootstrap integration, could I only use the layout part? Like the
Grid?
Does this make sense to use the full Wicket-Bootstrap integration then, or
would I be better off just putting in the required .js and .css.


Sorry for those possibly dump questions.
I'm more the functional UI and backend developer. This styling and layout
should better be done by someone else. But I'd like to understand how it
works.


Manfred

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Re: Your opinion on ShieldUI

Posted by Sebastien <se...@gmail.com>.
Hi,

On Oct 6, 2016 15:22, "Manfred Bergmann" <mb...@software-by-mabe.com> wrote:
>
> martin-g wrote
> > On Oct 5, 2016 7:52 PM, "Manfred Bergmann" &lt;
>
> > mb@
>
> > &gt; wrote:
> >>
> >> OK, thanks for you reply.
> >>
> >> What's the state of Wicket-Foundation?
> >> I mean, is it mature enough for a large enterprise application?
> >
> > Dunno.
> > Someone from the community contributed it a while back.
> >
> >>
> >> I assume that Wicket-JQuery-UI and Wicket-Bootstrap is?
> >
> > I'd say - yes!
>
> Bootstrap has a very nice baseCSS. Is this applied to the standard Wicket
> widgets automatically?
>
> If I want to use a widget from elsewhere, say jQuery or Kendo, does it
clash
> with it's CSS?

All kendo css classes are "k-" prefixed, so I don't think there will be
conflicts. For jQuery ui, there are "ui-" predixed iirc.

Just a warning however, both frameworks are big/complete frameworks, so
will end up with 2 big js and 2 big css...

>
> Manfred
>
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Re: Your opinion on ShieldUI

Posted by Manfred Bergmann <mb...@software-by-mabe.com>.
martin-g wrote
> On Oct 5, 2016 7:52 PM, "Manfred Bergmann" &lt;

> mb@

> &gt; wrote:
>>
>> OK, thanks for you reply.
>>
>> What's the state of Wicket-Foundation?
>> I mean, is it mature enough for a large enterprise application?
> 
> Dunno.
> Someone from the community contributed it a while back.
> 
>>
>> I assume that Wicket-JQuery-UI and Wicket-Bootstrap is?
> 
> I'd say - yes!

Bootstrap has a very nice baseCSS. Is this applied to the standard Wicket
widgets automatically?

If I want to use a widget from elsewhere, say jQuery or Kendo, does it clash
with it's CSS?


Manfred


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Re: Your opinion on ShieldUI

Posted by Martin Grigorov <ma...@gmail.com>.
On Oct 5, 2016 7:52 PM, "Manfred Bergmann" <mb...@software-by-mabe.com> wrote:
>
> OK, thanks for you reply.
>
> What's the state of Wicket-Foundation?
> I mean, is it mature enough for a large enterprise application?

Dunno.
Someone from the community contributed it a while back.

>
> I assume that Wicket-JQuery-UI and Wicket-Bootstrap is?

I'd say - yes!

>
>
>
> Manfred
>
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Re: Your opinion on ShieldUI

Posted by Manfred Bergmann <mb...@software-by-mabe.com>.
OK, thanks for you reply.

What's the state of Wicket-Foundation?
I mean, is it mature enough for a large enterprise application?

I assume that Wicket-JQuery-UI and Wicket-Bootstrap is?



Manfred


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Re: Your opinion on ShieldUI

Posted by Martin Grigorov <mg...@apache.org>.
Hi,

I think Wicket-JQuery-UI has the most widgets.
I personally maintain Wicket-Bootstrap.
For both of them I can say that they follow the best practices of Wicket.

I don't have experience with the ShieldUI integration.
You can also check
https://github.com/wicketstuff/core/tree/master/wicket-foundation

Martin Grigorov
Wicket Training and Consulting
https://twitter.com/mtgrigorov

On Wed, Oct 5, 2016 at 4:11 PM, Bergmann Manfred <mb...@software-by-mabe.com>
wrote:

> Hi.
>
> I'm looking for available options to build nice looking UIs using Apache
> Wicket without developing stylesheets and graphics myself.
> What I found was Wicket-JQuery-UI, Wicket Bootstrap and ShieldUI.
> Where ShieldUI seems to be the most complete one. But I couldn’t find much
> additional info, like which Wicket version is actually supported.
>
> But how is unit testability compared to the standard widgets?
> Do all those also use the Wicket Model classes as the standard widgets?
> Are there other alternative for out-of-the box nice looking widgets for
> Apache Wicket?
>
> What is your opinion on ShieldUI compared to the other options.
>
>
>
> Manfred
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