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Posted to derby-dev@db.apache.org by david myers <da...@gmail.com> on 2012/11/26 23:16:15 UTC

Re: Derby Key Words

Hello All,

As always first off I should appologise for being quiet, i've been 
reading through the code and I think I start to understand things that 
were not very clear to me previously.

My current situation is now the following

I've got myself well sorted out.

Eclipse now has a 'handle' on the svn repo (copied locally of course), 
and I've been able to grab Dag's patch and it to this, all from inside 
eclipse (which I'm pleased worked out).

Dag's code is interesting, very cool.

I feel my next steps are as follows...

I need to write a new class (or extend an existing one). I guess 
something in DB MetaData. But what and where?
Then I need to test it. Where should I put my test class (or again 
should I add the test to a class that already exists.

I feel that I am now ready to implement this. I just need some pointers 
of how to run my individual test case (I make the assumption that as I'm 
not going near anything else in the first instance I shouldn't break it 
(that is also why I propose a new subclass of one of the existing 
dbMetaData classes).

I hope to become a little more active before christmass

David.


On 15/10/12 20:48, david myers wrote:
> Dag,
>
> thanks for the info. I'll have a try with that later on.
> One thing though, should I not be in my < derby trunk sandbox of 
> checked out from svn[1] > before doing wget (surely I'll end up with 
> it in the wrong place)... I'm probably showing my ignorance about wget 
> and svn as I've not done this sort of stuff before ;)
>
> Not that it matters, I'll check it out later on....
>
> David
>
> On 15/10/12 13:06, Dag Wanvik wrote:
>> Hi David,
>>
>> to access the patch I made, you need to download the patch attached to
>> the JIRA issue, e.g. this way
>>
>> $ wget --no-check-certificate
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12544418/derbykeywords-1.diff 
>>
>> $ cd <your Derby trunk sandbox of checked out from svn[1]>
>> $ patch -p0 < derbykeywords-1.diff
>>
>> Hope this works!
>>
>> [1] See here
>> http://db.apache.org/derby/dev/derby_source.html#Development+trunk
>> $ svn checkout https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/db/derby/code/trunk/
>>
>> Since my patch only did part of what you wanted, I didn't commit it yet,
>> so feel free to build on it.
>> Good luck!
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dag
>>
>> On 14.10.2012 20:28, david myers wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> must apologise for being so quiet,busy with my 'real' job etc. However
>>> this doesn't mean I've been ignoring what I want to do.
>>>
>>> I've been reading around the code to determine the files that I am
>>> going to require to initiate this little modification. I think I am
>>> begining to understand how things work a little better. Firstly
>>> however I want to ensure I have well understood.
>>>
>>> The file sqlgrammar.jj is read by javacc and creates a bunch of other
>>> .java clases.
>>>
>>> SQLParserConstants.java is one of these files, it is an interface that
>>> is implemented by the SQLParser class (also created from 
>>> sqlgrammar.jj).
>>>
>>> So if I can modify sqlgrammar.jj I could 'inject' into the SQLParser
>>> class a method that return the list of static final members (stored in
>>> the tokenImage string array member, so in fact I could just return
>>> this member).
>>>
>>> My problems currently now revolve around the following.
>>>
>>> DAG has created a method that reads the sqlgrammar.jj file directly
>>> and creates the Keywords.java file. I can't seem to find this in my
>>> source tree, is this related to needing the specific DERBY-3256
>>> checkout. I've tried using the SVN plugin for eclipse to find this
>>> checkout, but so far to no success. Any chance someone could walk me
>>> through doing this from the CLI (ubuntu 12.04).
>>>
>>> Should I mention at this point I'm rather new to SVN (actually version
>>> control in general!), did I say previously this is my first multi
>>> person project?
>>> sorry I digress....
>>>
>>> I've located the files that I think I'm going to need.
>>> EmbededDataBaseMetaData[40].java and TestDBMetaData.java where I will
>>> put my < getDerbyKeyWords() > method and test.
>>>
>>> Rik thanks for waving your hands about the compile time tool. I think
>>> this may be what I need to implement my < getTokenImage() > so any
>>> pointers would be great.
>>>
>>> Once I've got the method working locally I guess I'll need to create a
>>> bug or something, that points to the various JIRA issues, and then
>>> solve it.... but for me that comes a little later. For now I want to
>>> write the method into my local tree only. Then recompile, test ...
>>> blah blah blah...
>>>
>>> Is this an acceptable way in which to proceed? Any suggestions advice
>>> are welcome.
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>
>>> David.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 10/09/12 01:23, Dag Wanvik wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I added an experimental patch to DERBY-3256 which seems to do (part
>>>> of) the job. It uses the actual lists from sqlgrammar.jj to generate
>>>> Keywords.java at compile time, and wraps those in a table function.
>>>> There is no metadata function in it but it could be used to provide
>>>> those functions, I think, if we decide that's the way to go.
>>>>
>>>> Dag
>>>>
>>>> On 05.09.2012 23:28, david myers wrote:
>>>>> On 05/09/12 06:25, Katherine Marsden wrote:
>>>>>> On 9/4/2012 7:44 PM, Bryan Pendleton wrote:
>>>>>>>> I've had success in pointing Eclipse to the source code that I
>>>>>>>> have built. I have had a nice look around for the file that I am
>>>>>>>> interested in, which from the previously mentioned JIRA issues
>>>>>>>> etc suggest a file called sqlgrammar.jj
>>>>>>>> only problem is I can't find it!
>>>>>>> It's possible that Eclipse doesn't grok '.jj' files in its normal
>>>>>>> configuration.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The file should be in your source tree as:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ./java/engine/org/apache/derby/impl/sql/compile/sqlgrammar.jj
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> There is a compiler-generation tool that processes this file during
>>>>>>> the Ant build of Derby and generates Java source from the grammar.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>   The tool that generates the java code for the parser from
>>>>>> sqlgrammar.jj is  Javacc.  The generated code is in
>>>>>> generated/java/org/apache/derby/impl/sql/compile which is fun to
>>>>>> look at but shouldn't be changed.
>>>>>> I think there may be an exclipse plugin for javacc but I have never
>>>>>> used one.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kathey
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Hello again all,
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry I hate to pollute the thread, but I want to ensure that I do
>>>>> things 'the apache way' and not just my way!
>>>>> So I need a little advice.
>>>>> First some info.
>>>>>
>>>>> The file as mentioned by Bryan has been located. Thanks to Kathey's
>>>>> pointer I have found the actual java file that is going to be of
>>>>> interest to me.
>>>>>
>>>>> The files that I think are going to be informative are:
>>>>> SQLParserConstants.java ~ this is the interface
>>>>> SQLParser ~ a class file that implements this interface is
>>>>> This file is found in Source Folder: generated/java/
>>>>>                                         package:
>>>>> org.apache.derby.impl.sql.compile
>>>>>
>>>>> So now it is a question of testing out my idea !
>>>>> The interface <SQLParserConstants.java> has no methods, only static
>>>>> final "int" members.
>>>>>
>>>>> This leads me to a potential solution as follows:
>>>>>
>>>>> Create a method that has an inner class that implements the
>>>>> SQLParserConstants.java interface
>>>>> This inner class has a single method that grabs all of the members
>>>>> and inserts them into a arrayList<String> - for "equal time access"
>>>>> to the values.
>>>>>
>>>>> We can then access this arrayList and compare a passed in value to
>>>>> determine if the value exists in the list.
>>>>>
>>>>> My first idea is to test the method within a test class, a good
>>>>> candidate for its location is the following I think.
>>>>>
>>>>> TestDbMetaData
>>>>> located in source folder java/test
>>>>> package ~ org.apache.derbyTesting.functionTests.tests.jdbc4
>>>>>
>>>>> Or alternatively I can create a separate test class to test the idea
>>>>> (which would probably be my preference to start with, then once it
>>>>> works as I would like it to everything can be copied into a more
>>>>> sensible location.
>>>>>
>>>>> Once I have the method functioning I could add it into a specific
>>>>> package (probably databaseMetaData), then test it in situ.
>>>>>
>>>>> Does the above seem like a valid process?
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a few queries about the test suite.
>>>>> I have been using Junit4 from within eclipse, and I'm aware that you
>>>>> use Junit 3.8. I notice that with your test files you don't use
>>>>> annotations for the methods. With the exception of the setup and
>>>>> tear down methods, how do you control the flow through the test? In
>>>>> Junit 4 you place a <@Test> token on the line before the method if
>>>>> you want the method to run, along with annotations like <@before> if
>>>>> there are any that need to come before other stuff.
>>>>> Also my test classes have only really had 1 method I want to run at
>>>>> a time, so I just comment out the <@Test> annotation to effectively
>>>>> turn off the method.
>>>>>
>>>>> Please add your comments.
>>>>>
>>>>> David
>


Re: Derby Key Words

Posted by david myers <da...@gmail.com>.
Rik,

Sounds fair to me.

David.


On 12/12/12 14:30, Rick Hillegas wrote:
> Hi David,
>
> Thanks for continuing to think about this issue. Dag's solution looks 
> good enough to me. I don't see any compelling reason to also expose 
> this functionality via a second api, namely, a Derby-specific 
> extension to the JDBC metadata. I'm glad that you want to contribute 
> to Derby. At this point I think that a better introductory task would 
> be to pick one of the Derby JIRA issues which is marked "Newcomer".
>
> Thanks,
> -Rick
>
> On 12/11/12 2:16 PM, david myers wrote:
>> On 04/12/12 22:33, Dag Wanvik wrote:
>>> On 04.12.2012 17:57, Rick Hillegas wrote:
>>>> Hi David,
>>>>
>>>> I have added a comment to DERBY-3256. I think that Dag's solution
>>>> looks complete and reasonable. I recommend that it be committed and
>>>> documented. Does his solution not solve your original problem?
>>>>
>>> Thanks for looking at the patch, Rick. I think David wants to extend
>>> this solution so one could get these keywords via DataBaseMetaData?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Dag
>>
>> Hi Rick and Dag,
>>
>> Dag's solution is exceedingly complete, but like Dag mentions I am 
>> putting the finishing touches on a DataBaseMetaData method to kick 
>> out the info (in the form of a table as per your original suggestion).
>>
>> Currently it seems to 'work', but I have a few 'niggles' that I want 
>> to solve, mainly revolving around the test(s) I'm writing.
>>
>> Currently my metadata method is in its own class that inherits from 
>> the 'proper' one, so no danger of me breaking something else on the 
>> way (eventually if its good we can simply copy / paste it back into 
>> the parent).
>>
>> The same is true for my test class.
>> Also I'm not sure how to test for the presence of the JJ file and 
>> Dag's patch on which I obviously rely, I understand (sort of) how Dag 
>> uses the build paths to find the file in his patch, but I'm not sure 
>> how to code these into a test, i'm sure they are in a test somewhere, 
>> just for the moment I haven't 'seen' them, or do I even need to worry 
>> about this ? is simply listing them in my < 
>> getDerbyKeyWordsTest_app.properties > going to be sufficient ? again 
>> how to I give a location based on the derbyHome or similar in this file?
>>
>> If you can point me to a good example test class that does this sort 
>> of thing, I'll work my way through it and use the same model for my 
>> test class.
>>
>> Personally I just want to give a good test with sensible responses 
>> when they fail if the files I rely on strangely go missing or move to 
>> another location.
>>
>> I'll try to get back with the exact problems I seem to be facing, 
>> which for the moment are rather varied, and probably linked to my 
>> setup of Eclipse... i'm getting there slowly though.
>>
>> I just need to find a few extra hours somewhere... especially as the 
>> wife has decided it is time to redecorate the bedroom ;).
>>
>> Speak again soon
>>
>> David
>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> -Rick
>>>>
>>>> On 11/26/12 2:16 PM, david myers wrote:
>>>>> Hello All,
>>>>>
>>>>> As always first off I should appologise for being quiet, i've been
>>>>> reading through the code and I think I start to understand things
>>>>> that were not very clear to me previously.
>>>>>
>>>>> My current situation is now the following
>>>>>
>>>>> I've got myself well sorted out.
>>>>>
>>>>> Eclipse now has a 'handle' on the svn repo (copied locally of
>>>>> course), and I've been able to grab Dag's patch and it to this, all
>>>>> from inside eclipse (which I'm pleased worked out).
>>>>>
>>>>> Dag's code is interesting, very cool.
>>>>>
>>>>> I feel my next steps are as follows...
>>>>>
>>>>> I need to write a new class (or extend an existing one). I guess
>>>>> something in DB MetaData. But what and where?
>>>>> Then I need to test it. Where should I put my test class (or again
>>>>> should I add the test to a class that already exists.
>>>>>
>>>>> I feel that I am now ready to implement this. I just need some
>>>>> pointers of how to run my individual test case (I make the assumption
>>>>> that as I'm not going near anything else in the first instance I
>>>>> shouldn't break it (that is also why I propose a new subclass of one
>>>>> of the existing dbMetaData classes).
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope to become a little more active before christmass
>>>>>
>>>>> David.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 15/10/12 20:48, david myers wrote:
>>>>>> Dag,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thanks for the info. I'll have a try with that later on.
>>>>>> One thing though, should I not be in my < derby trunk sandbox of
>>>>>> checked out from svn[1] > before doing wget (surely I'll end up with
>>>>>> it in the wrong place)... I'm probably showing my ignorance about
>>>>>> wget and svn as I've not done this sort of stuff before ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Not that it matters, I'll check it out later on....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 15/10/12 13:06, Dag Wanvik wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi David,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> to access the patch I made, you need to download the patch 
>>>>>>> attached to
>>>>>>> the JIRA issue, e.g. this way
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> $ wget --no-check-certificate
>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12544418/derbykeywords-1.diff 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> $ cd <your Derby trunk sandbox of checked out from svn[1]>
>>>>>>> $ patch -p0 < derbykeywords-1.diff
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hope this works!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1] See here
>>>>>>> http://db.apache.org/derby/dev/derby_source.html#Development+trunk
>>>>>>> $ svn checkout 
>>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/db/derby/code/trunk/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Since my patch only did part of what you wanted, I didn't commit it
>>>>>>> yet,
>>>>>>> so feel free to build on it.
>>>>>>> Good luck!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>> Dag
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 14.10.2012 20:28, david myers wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> must apologise for being so quiet,busy with my 'real' job etc.
>>>>>>>> However
>>>>>>>> this doesn't mean I've been ignoring what I want to do.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've been reading around the code to determine the files that I am
>>>>>>>> going to require to initiate this little modification. I think 
>>>>>>>> I am
>>>>>>>> begining to understand how things work a little better. Firstly
>>>>>>>> however I want to ensure I have well understood.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The file sqlgrammar.jj is read by javacc and creates a bunch of 
>>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>>> .java clases.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> SQLParserConstants.java is one of these files, it is an interface
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> is implemented by the SQLParser class (also created from
>>>>>>>> sqlgrammar.jj).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So if I can modify sqlgrammar.jj I could 'inject' into the 
>>>>>>>> SQLParser
>>>>>>>> class a method that return the list of static final members
>>>>>>>> (stored in
>>>>>>>> the tokenImage string array member, so in fact I could just return
>>>>>>>> this member).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My problems currently now revolve around the following.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> DAG has created a method that reads the sqlgrammar.jj file 
>>>>>>>> directly
>>>>>>>> and creates the Keywords.java file. I can't seem to find this 
>>>>>>>> in my
>>>>>>>> source tree, is this related to needing the specific DERBY-3256
>>>>>>>> checkout. I've tried using the SVN plugin for eclipse to find this
>>>>>>>> checkout, but so far to no success. Any chance someone could 
>>>>>>>> walk me
>>>>>>>> through doing this from the CLI (ubuntu 12.04).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Should I mention at this point I'm rather new to SVN (actually
>>>>>>>> version
>>>>>>>> control in general!), did I say previously this is my first multi
>>>>>>>> person project?
>>>>>>>> sorry I digress....
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've located the files that I think I'm going to need.
>>>>>>>> EmbededDataBaseMetaData[40].java and TestDBMetaData.java where 
>>>>>>>> I will
>>>>>>>> put my < getDerbyKeyWords() > method and test.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Rik thanks for waving your hands about the compile time tool. I 
>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>> this may be what I need to implement my < getTokenImage() > so any
>>>>>>>> pointers would be great.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Once I've got the method working locally I guess I'll need to
>>>>>>>> create a
>>>>>>>> bug or something, that points to the various JIRA issues, and then
>>>>>>>> solve it.... but for me that comes a little later. For now I 
>>>>>>>> want to
>>>>>>>> write the method into my local tree only. Then recompile, test ...
>>>>>>>> blah blah blah...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is this an acceptable way in which to proceed? Any suggestions 
>>>>>>>> advice
>>>>>>>> are welcome.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> David.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/09/12 01:23, Dag Wanvik wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I added an experimental patch to DERBY-3256 which seems to do 
>>>>>>>>> (part
>>>>>>>>> of) the job. It uses the actual lists from sqlgrammar.jj to 
>>>>>>>>> generate
>>>>>>>>> Keywords.java at compile time, and wraps those in a table 
>>>>>>>>> function.
>>>>>>>>> There is no metadata function in it but it could be used to 
>>>>>>>>> provide
>>>>>>>>> those functions, I think, if we decide that's the way to go.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dag
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 05.09.2012 23:28, david myers wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 05/09/12 06:25, Katherine Marsden wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/2012 7:44 PM, Bryan Pendleton wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've had success in pointing Eclipse to the source code 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have built. I have had a nice look around for the file 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that I am
>>>>>>>>>>>>> interested in, which from the previously mentioned JIRA 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> issues
>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc suggest a file called sqlgrammar.jj
>>>>>>>>>>>>> only problem is I can't find it!
>>>>>>>>>>>> It's possible that Eclipse doesn't grok '.jj' files in its 
>>>>>>>>>>>> normal
>>>>>>>>>>>> configuration.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> The file should be in your source tree as:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> ./java/engine/org/apache/derby/impl/sql/compile/sqlgrammar.jj
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> There is a compiler-generation tool that processes this file
>>>>>>>>>>>> during
>>>>>>>>>>>> the Ant build of Derby and generates Java source from the
>>>>>>>>>>>> grammar.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>    The tool that generates the java code for the parser from
>>>>>>>>>>> sqlgrammar.jj is  Javacc.  The generated code is in
>>>>>>>>>>> generated/java/org/apache/derby/impl/sql/compile which is 
>>>>>>>>>>> fun to
>>>>>>>>>>> look at but shouldn't be changed.
>>>>>>>>>>> I think there may be an exclipse plugin for javacc but I have
>>>>>>>>>>> never
>>>>>>>>>>> used one.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Kathey
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hello again all,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Sorry I hate to pollute the thread, but I want to ensure that 
>>>>>>>>>> I do
>>>>>>>>>> things 'the apache way' and not just my way!
>>>>>>>>>> So I need a little advice.
>>>>>>>>>> First some info.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The file as mentioned by Bryan has been located. Thanks to 
>>>>>>>>>> Kathey's
>>>>>>>>>> pointer I have found the actual java file that is going to be of
>>>>>>>>>> interest to me.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The files that I think are going to be informative are:
>>>>>>>>>> SQLParserConstants.java ~ this is the interface
>>>>>>>>>> SQLParser ~ a class file that implements this interface is
>>>>>>>>>> This file is found in Source Folder: generated/java/
>>>>>>>>>> package:
>>>>>>>>>> org.apache.derby.impl.sql.compile
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So now it is a question of testing out my idea !
>>>>>>>>>> The interface <SQLParserConstants.java> has no methods, only 
>>>>>>>>>> static
>>>>>>>>>> final "int" members.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This leads me to a potential solution as follows:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Create a method that has an inner class that implements the
>>>>>>>>>> SQLParserConstants.java interface
>>>>>>>>>> This inner class has a single method that grabs all of the 
>>>>>>>>>> members
>>>>>>>>>> and inserts them into a arrayList<String> - for "equal time 
>>>>>>>>>> access"
>>>>>>>>>> to the values.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We can then access this arrayList and compare a passed in 
>>>>>>>>>> value to
>>>>>>>>>> determine if the value exists in the list.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> My first idea is to test the method within a test class, a good
>>>>>>>>>> candidate for its location is the following I think.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> TestDbMetaData
>>>>>>>>>> located in source folder java/test
>>>>>>>>>> package ~ org.apache.derbyTesting.functionTests.tests.jdbc4
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Or alternatively I can create a separate test class to test the
>>>>>>>>>> idea
>>>>>>>>>> (which would probably be my preference to start with, then 
>>>>>>>>>> once it
>>>>>>>>>> works as I would like it to everything can be copied into a more
>>>>>>>>>> sensible location.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Once I have the method functioning I could add it into a 
>>>>>>>>>> specific
>>>>>>>>>> package (probably databaseMetaData), then test it in situ.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Does the above seem like a valid process?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I have a few queries about the test suite.
>>>>>>>>>> I have been using Junit4 from within eclipse, and I'm aware that
>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>> use Junit 3.8. I notice that with your test files you don't use
>>>>>>>>>> annotations for the methods. With the exception of the setup and
>>>>>>>>>> tear down methods, how do you control the flow through the 
>>>>>>>>>> test? In
>>>>>>>>>> Junit 4 you place a <@Test> token on the line before the 
>>>>>>>>>> method if
>>>>>>>>>> you want the method to run, along with annotations like
>>>>>>>>>> <@before> if
>>>>>>>>>> there are any that need to come before other stuff.
>>>>>>>>>> Also my test classes have only really had 1 method I want to 
>>>>>>>>>> run at
>>>>>>>>>> a time, so I just comment out the <@Test> annotation to 
>>>>>>>>>> effectively
>>>>>>>>>> turn off the method.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Please add your comments.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> David
>>>>>
>>
>>
>


Re: Derby Key Words

Posted by Rick Hillegas <ri...@oracle.com>.
Hi David,

Thanks for continuing to think about this issue. Dag's solution looks 
good enough to me. I don't see any compelling reason to also expose this 
functionality via a second api, namely, a Derby-specific extension to 
the JDBC metadata. I'm glad that you want to contribute to Derby. At 
this point I think that a better introductory task would be to pick one 
of the Derby JIRA issues which is marked "Newcomer".

Thanks,
-Rick

On 12/11/12 2:16 PM, david myers wrote:
> On 04/12/12 22:33, Dag Wanvik wrote:
>> On 04.12.2012 17:57, Rick Hillegas wrote:
>>> Hi David,
>>>
>>> I have added a comment to DERBY-3256. I think that Dag's solution
>>> looks complete and reasonable. I recommend that it be committed and
>>> documented. Does his solution not solve your original problem?
>>>
>> Thanks for looking at the patch, Rick. I think David wants to extend
>> this solution so one could get these keywords via DataBaseMetaData?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Dag
>
> Hi Rick and Dag,
>
> Dag's solution is exceedingly complete, but like Dag mentions I am 
> putting the finishing touches on a DataBaseMetaData method to kick out 
> the info (in the form of a table as per your original suggestion).
>
> Currently it seems to 'work', but I have a few 'niggles' that I want 
> to solve, mainly revolving around the test(s) I'm writing.
>
> Currently my metadata method is in its own class that inherits from 
> the 'proper' one, so no danger of me breaking something else on the 
> way (eventually if its good we can simply copy / paste it back into 
> the parent).
>
> The same is true for my test class.
> Also I'm not sure how to test for the presence of the JJ file and 
> Dag's patch on which I obviously rely, I understand (sort of) how Dag 
> uses the build paths to find the file in his patch, but I'm not sure 
> how to code these into a test, i'm sure they are in a test somewhere, 
> just for the moment I haven't 'seen' them, or do I even need to worry 
> about this ? is simply listing them in my < 
> getDerbyKeyWordsTest_app.properties > going to be sufficient ? again 
> how to I give a location based on the derbyHome or similar in this file?
>
> If you can point me to a good example test class that does this sort 
> of thing, I'll work my way through it and use the same model for my 
> test class.
>
> Personally I just want to give a good test with sensible responses 
> when they fail if the files I rely on strangely go missing or move to 
> another location.
>
> I'll try to get back with the exact problems I seem to be facing, 
> which for the moment are rather varied, and probably linked to my 
> setup of Eclipse... i'm getting there slowly though.
>
> I just need to find a few extra hours somewhere... especially as the 
> wife has decided it is time to redecorate the bedroom ;).
>
> Speak again soon
>
> David
>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> -Rick
>>>
>>> On 11/26/12 2:16 PM, david myers wrote:
>>>> Hello All,
>>>>
>>>> As always first off I should appologise for being quiet, i've been
>>>> reading through the code and I think I start to understand things
>>>> that were not very clear to me previously.
>>>>
>>>> My current situation is now the following
>>>>
>>>> I've got myself well sorted out.
>>>>
>>>> Eclipse now has a 'handle' on the svn repo (copied locally of
>>>> course), and I've been able to grab Dag's patch and it to this, all
>>>> from inside eclipse (which I'm pleased worked out).
>>>>
>>>> Dag's code is interesting, very cool.
>>>>
>>>> I feel my next steps are as follows...
>>>>
>>>> I need to write a new class (or extend an existing one). I guess
>>>> something in DB MetaData. But what and where?
>>>> Then I need to test it. Where should I put my test class (or again
>>>> should I add the test to a class that already exists.
>>>>
>>>> I feel that I am now ready to implement this. I just need some
>>>> pointers of how to run my individual test case (I make the assumption
>>>> that as I'm not going near anything else in the first instance I
>>>> shouldn't break it (that is also why I propose a new subclass of one
>>>> of the existing dbMetaData classes).
>>>>
>>>> I hope to become a little more active before christmass
>>>>
>>>> David.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 15/10/12 20:48, david myers wrote:
>>>>> Dag,
>>>>>
>>>>> thanks for the info. I'll have a try with that later on.
>>>>> One thing though, should I not be in my < derby trunk sandbox of
>>>>> checked out from svn[1] > before doing wget (surely I'll end up with
>>>>> it in the wrong place)... I'm probably showing my ignorance about
>>>>> wget and svn as I've not done this sort of stuff before ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> Not that it matters, I'll check it out later on....
>>>>>
>>>>> David
>>>>>
>>>>> On 15/10/12 13:06, Dag Wanvik wrote:
>>>>>> Hi David,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> to access the patch I made, you need to download the patch 
>>>>>> attached to
>>>>>> the JIRA issue, e.g. this way
>>>>>>
>>>>>> $ wget --no-check-certificate
>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12544418/derbykeywords-1.diff 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> $ cd <your Derby trunk sandbox of checked out from svn[1]>
>>>>>> $ patch -p0 < derbykeywords-1.diff
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hope this works!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] See here
>>>>>> http://db.apache.org/derby/dev/derby_source.html#Development+trunk
>>>>>> $ svn checkout https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/db/derby/code/trunk/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since my patch only did part of what you wanted, I didn't commit it
>>>>>> yet,
>>>>>> so feel free to build on it.
>>>>>> Good luck!
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Dag
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 14.10.2012 20:28, david myers wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> must apologise for being so quiet,busy with my 'real' job etc.
>>>>>>> However
>>>>>>> this doesn't mean I've been ignoring what I want to do.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've been reading around the code to determine the files that I am
>>>>>>> going to require to initiate this little modification. I think I am
>>>>>>> begining to understand how things work a little better. Firstly
>>>>>>> however I want to ensure I have well understood.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The file sqlgrammar.jj is read by javacc and creates a bunch of 
>>>>>>> other
>>>>>>> .java clases.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> SQLParserConstants.java is one of these files, it is an interface
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> is implemented by the SQLParser class (also created from
>>>>>>> sqlgrammar.jj).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So if I can modify sqlgrammar.jj I could 'inject' into the 
>>>>>>> SQLParser
>>>>>>> class a method that return the list of static final members
>>>>>>> (stored in
>>>>>>> the tokenImage string array member, so in fact I could just return
>>>>>>> this member).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My problems currently now revolve around the following.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> DAG has created a method that reads the sqlgrammar.jj file directly
>>>>>>> and creates the Keywords.java file. I can't seem to find this in my
>>>>>>> source tree, is this related to needing the specific DERBY-3256
>>>>>>> checkout. I've tried using the SVN plugin for eclipse to find this
>>>>>>> checkout, but so far to no success. Any chance someone could 
>>>>>>> walk me
>>>>>>> through doing this from the CLI (ubuntu 12.04).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Should I mention at this point I'm rather new to SVN (actually
>>>>>>> version
>>>>>>> control in general!), did I say previously this is my first multi
>>>>>>> person project?
>>>>>>> sorry I digress....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I've located the files that I think I'm going to need.
>>>>>>> EmbededDataBaseMetaData[40].java and TestDBMetaData.java where I 
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> put my < getDerbyKeyWords() > method and test.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Rik thanks for waving your hands about the compile time tool. I 
>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>> this may be what I need to implement my < getTokenImage() > so any
>>>>>>> pointers would be great.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Once I've got the method working locally I guess I'll need to
>>>>>>> create a
>>>>>>> bug or something, that points to the various JIRA issues, and then
>>>>>>> solve it.... but for me that comes a little later. For now I 
>>>>>>> want to
>>>>>>> write the method into my local tree only. Then recompile, test ...
>>>>>>> blah blah blah...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Is this an acceptable way in which to proceed? Any suggestions 
>>>>>>> advice
>>>>>>> are welcome.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> David.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/09/12 01:23, Dag Wanvik wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I added an experimental patch to DERBY-3256 which seems to do 
>>>>>>>> (part
>>>>>>>> of) the job. It uses the actual lists from sqlgrammar.jj to 
>>>>>>>> generate
>>>>>>>> Keywords.java at compile time, and wraps those in a table 
>>>>>>>> function.
>>>>>>>> There is no metadata function in it but it could be used to 
>>>>>>>> provide
>>>>>>>> those functions, I think, if we decide that's the way to go.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dag
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 05.09.2012 23:28, david myers wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 05/09/12 06:25, Katherine Marsden wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/2012 7:44 PM, Bryan Pendleton wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> I've had success in pointing Eclipse to the source code that I
>>>>>>>>>>>> have built. I have had a nice look around for the file that 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I am
>>>>>>>>>>>> interested in, which from the previously mentioned JIRA issues
>>>>>>>>>>>> etc suggest a file called sqlgrammar.jj
>>>>>>>>>>>> only problem is I can't find it!
>>>>>>>>>>> It's possible that Eclipse doesn't grok '.jj' files in its 
>>>>>>>>>>> normal
>>>>>>>>>>> configuration.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The file should be in your source tree as:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> ./java/engine/org/apache/derby/impl/sql/compile/sqlgrammar.jj
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> There is a compiler-generation tool that processes this file
>>>>>>>>>>> during
>>>>>>>>>>> the Ant build of Derby and generates Java source from the
>>>>>>>>>>> grammar.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>    The tool that generates the java code for the parser from
>>>>>>>>>> sqlgrammar.jj is  Javacc.  The generated code is in
>>>>>>>>>> generated/java/org/apache/derby/impl/sql/compile which is fun to
>>>>>>>>>> look at but shouldn't be changed.
>>>>>>>>>> I think there may be an exclipse plugin for javacc but I have
>>>>>>>>>> never
>>>>>>>>>> used one.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Kathey
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hello again all,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sorry I hate to pollute the thread, but I want to ensure that 
>>>>>>>>> I do
>>>>>>>>> things 'the apache way' and not just my way!
>>>>>>>>> So I need a little advice.
>>>>>>>>> First some info.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The file as mentioned by Bryan has been located. Thanks to 
>>>>>>>>> Kathey's
>>>>>>>>> pointer I have found the actual java file that is going to be of
>>>>>>>>> interest to me.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The files that I think are going to be informative are:
>>>>>>>>> SQLParserConstants.java ~ this is the interface
>>>>>>>>> SQLParser ~ a class file that implements this interface is
>>>>>>>>> This file is found in Source Folder: generated/java/
>>>>>>>>>                                          package:
>>>>>>>>> org.apache.derby.impl.sql.compile
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So now it is a question of testing out my idea !
>>>>>>>>> The interface <SQLParserConstants.java> has no methods, only 
>>>>>>>>> static
>>>>>>>>> final "int" members.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This leads me to a potential solution as follows:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Create a method that has an inner class that implements the
>>>>>>>>> SQLParserConstants.java interface
>>>>>>>>> This inner class has a single method that grabs all of the 
>>>>>>>>> members
>>>>>>>>> and inserts them into a arrayList<String> - for "equal time 
>>>>>>>>> access"
>>>>>>>>> to the values.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We can then access this arrayList and compare a passed in 
>>>>>>>>> value to
>>>>>>>>> determine if the value exists in the list.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> My first idea is to test the method within a test class, a good
>>>>>>>>> candidate for its location is the following I think.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> TestDbMetaData
>>>>>>>>> located in source folder java/test
>>>>>>>>> package ~ org.apache.derbyTesting.functionTests.tests.jdbc4
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Or alternatively I can create a separate test class to test the
>>>>>>>>> idea
>>>>>>>>> (which would probably be my preference to start with, then 
>>>>>>>>> once it
>>>>>>>>> works as I would like it to everything can be copied into a more
>>>>>>>>> sensible location.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Once I have the method functioning I could add it into a specific
>>>>>>>>> package (probably databaseMetaData), then test it in situ.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Does the above seem like a valid process?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I have a few queries about the test suite.
>>>>>>>>> I have been using Junit4 from within eclipse, and I'm aware that
>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>> use Junit 3.8. I notice that with your test files you don't use
>>>>>>>>> annotations for the methods. With the exception of the setup and
>>>>>>>>> tear down methods, how do you control the flow through the 
>>>>>>>>> test? In
>>>>>>>>> Junit 4 you place a <@Test> token on the line before the 
>>>>>>>>> method if
>>>>>>>>> you want the method to run, along with annotations like
>>>>>>>>> <@before> if
>>>>>>>>> there are any that need to come before other stuff.
>>>>>>>>> Also my test classes have only really had 1 method I want to 
>>>>>>>>> run at
>>>>>>>>> a time, so I just comment out the <@Test> annotation to 
>>>>>>>>> effectively
>>>>>>>>> turn off the method.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please add your comments.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> David
>>>>
>
>


Re: Derby Key Words

Posted by Dag Wanvik <da...@oracle.com>.
On 11.12.2012 23:16, david myers wrote:

> need to worry about this ? is simply listing them in my <
> getDerbyKeyWordsTest_app.properties > going to be 

Just for your FYI, the *_app.properties stuff is part of our old testing
harness, nowadays we build tests in JUnit only.
The test directories contain a mix of old test harness tests (we're
always trying to convert the rest of those) and JUnit tests. Almost all
test files named <name>Test.java (note the capital "T") are examples of
JUnit based tests.

Thanks,
Dag


Re: Derby Key Words

Posted by david myers <da...@gmail.com>.
On 04/12/12 22:33, Dag Wanvik wrote:
> On 04.12.2012 17:57, Rick Hillegas wrote:
>> Hi David,
>>
>> I have added a comment to DERBY-3256. I think that Dag's solution
>> looks complete and reasonable. I recommend that it be committed and
>> documented. Does his solution not solve your original problem?
>>
> Thanks for looking at the patch, Rick. I think David wants to extend
> this solution so one could get these keywords via DataBaseMetaData?
>
> Thanks,
> Dag

Hi Rick and Dag,

Dag's solution is exceedingly complete, but like Dag mentions I am 
putting the finishing touches on a DataBaseMetaData method to kick out 
the info (in the form of a table as per your original suggestion).

Currently it seems to 'work', but I have a few 'niggles' that I want to 
solve, mainly revolving around the test(s) I'm writing.

Currently my metadata method is in its own class that inherits from the 
'proper' one, so no danger of me breaking something else on the way 
(eventually if its good we can simply copy / paste it back into the parent).

The same is true for my test class.
Also I'm not sure how to test for the presence of the JJ file and Dag's 
patch on which I obviously rely, I understand (sort of) how Dag uses the 
build paths to find the file in his patch, but I'm not sure how to code 
these into a test, i'm sure they are in a test somewhere, just for the 
moment I haven't 'seen' them, or do I even need to worry about this ? is 
simply listing them in my < getDerbyKeyWordsTest_app.properties > going 
to be sufficient ? again how to I give a location based on the derbyHome 
or similar in this file?

If you can point me to a good example test class that does this sort of 
thing, I'll work my way through it and use the same model for my test class.

Personally I just want to give a good test with sensible responses when 
they fail if the files I rely on strangely go missing or move to another 
location.

I'll try to get back with the exact problems I seem to be facing, which 
for the moment are rather varied, and probably linked to my setup of 
Eclipse... i'm getting there slowly though.

I just need to find a few extra hours somewhere... especially as the 
wife has decided it is time to redecorate the bedroom ;).

Speak again soon

David
>
>> Thanks,
>> -Rick
>>
>> On 11/26/12 2:16 PM, david myers wrote:
>>> Hello All,
>>>
>>> As always first off I should appologise for being quiet, i've been
>>> reading through the code and I think I start to understand things
>>> that were not very clear to me previously.
>>>
>>> My current situation is now the following
>>>
>>> I've got myself well sorted out.
>>>
>>> Eclipse now has a 'handle' on the svn repo (copied locally of
>>> course), and I've been able to grab Dag's patch and it to this, all
>>> from inside eclipse (which I'm pleased worked out).
>>>
>>> Dag's code is interesting, very cool.
>>>
>>> I feel my next steps are as follows...
>>>
>>> I need to write a new class (or extend an existing one). I guess
>>> something in DB MetaData. But what and where?
>>> Then I need to test it. Where should I put my test class (or again
>>> should I add the test to a class that already exists.
>>>
>>> I feel that I am now ready to implement this. I just need some
>>> pointers of how to run my individual test case (I make the assumption
>>> that as I'm not going near anything else in the first instance I
>>> shouldn't break it (that is also why I propose a new subclass of one
>>> of the existing dbMetaData classes).
>>>
>>> I hope to become a little more active before christmass
>>>
>>> David.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 15/10/12 20:48, david myers wrote:
>>>> Dag,
>>>>
>>>> thanks for the info. I'll have a try with that later on.
>>>> One thing though, should I not be in my < derby trunk sandbox of
>>>> checked out from svn[1] > before doing wget (surely I'll end up with
>>>> it in the wrong place)... I'm probably showing my ignorance about
>>>> wget and svn as I've not done this sort of stuff before ;)
>>>>
>>>> Not that it matters, I'll check it out later on....
>>>>
>>>> David
>>>>
>>>> On 15/10/12 13:06, Dag Wanvik wrote:
>>>>> Hi David,
>>>>>
>>>>> to access the patch I made, you need to download the patch attached to
>>>>> the JIRA issue, e.g. this way
>>>>>
>>>>> $ wget --no-check-certificate
>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12544418/derbykeywords-1.diff
>>>>>
>>>>> $ cd <your Derby trunk sandbox of checked out from svn[1]>
>>>>> $ patch -p0 < derbykeywords-1.diff
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope this works!
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] See here
>>>>> http://db.apache.org/derby/dev/derby_source.html#Development+trunk
>>>>> $ svn checkout https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/db/derby/code/trunk/
>>>>>
>>>>> Since my patch only did part of what you wanted, I didn't commit it
>>>>> yet,
>>>>> so feel free to build on it.
>>>>> Good luck!
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Dag
>>>>>
>>>>> On 14.10.2012 20:28, david myers wrote:
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> must apologise for being so quiet,busy with my 'real' job etc.
>>>>>> However
>>>>>> this doesn't mean I've been ignoring what I want to do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've been reading around the code to determine the files that I am
>>>>>> going to require to initiate this little modification. I think I am
>>>>>> begining to understand how things work a little better. Firstly
>>>>>> however I want to ensure I have well understood.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The file sqlgrammar.jj is read by javacc and creates a bunch of other
>>>>>> .java clases.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> SQLParserConstants.java is one of these files, it is an interface
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> is implemented by the SQLParser class (also created from
>>>>>> sqlgrammar.jj).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So if I can modify sqlgrammar.jj I could 'inject' into the SQLParser
>>>>>> class a method that return the list of static final members
>>>>>> (stored in
>>>>>> the tokenImage string array member, so in fact I could just return
>>>>>> this member).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My problems currently now revolve around the following.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> DAG has created a method that reads the sqlgrammar.jj file directly
>>>>>> and creates the Keywords.java file. I can't seem to find this in my
>>>>>> source tree, is this related to needing the specific DERBY-3256
>>>>>> checkout. I've tried using the SVN plugin for eclipse to find this
>>>>>> checkout, but so far to no success. Any chance someone could walk me
>>>>>> through doing this from the CLI (ubuntu 12.04).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Should I mention at this point I'm rather new to SVN (actually
>>>>>> version
>>>>>> control in general!), did I say previously this is my first multi
>>>>>> person project?
>>>>>> sorry I digress....
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've located the files that I think I'm going to need.
>>>>>> EmbededDataBaseMetaData[40].java and TestDBMetaData.java where I will
>>>>>> put my < getDerbyKeyWords() > method and test.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Rik thanks for waving your hands about the compile time tool. I think
>>>>>> this may be what I need to implement my < getTokenImage() > so any
>>>>>> pointers would be great.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Once I've got the method working locally I guess I'll need to
>>>>>> create a
>>>>>> bug or something, that points to the various JIRA issues, and then
>>>>>> solve it.... but for me that comes a little later. For now I want to
>>>>>> write the method into my local tree only. Then recompile, test ...
>>>>>> blah blah blah...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is this an acceptable way in which to proceed? Any suggestions advice
>>>>>> are welcome.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 10/09/12 01:23, Dag Wanvik wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I added an experimental patch to DERBY-3256 which seems to do (part
>>>>>>> of) the job. It uses the actual lists from sqlgrammar.jj to generate
>>>>>>> Keywords.java at compile time, and wraps those in a table function.
>>>>>>> There is no metadata function in it but it could be used to provide
>>>>>>> those functions, I think, if we decide that's the way to go.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dag
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 05.09.2012 23:28, david myers wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 05/09/12 06:25, Katherine Marsden wrote:
>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/2012 7:44 PM, Bryan Pendleton wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> I've had success in pointing Eclipse to the source code that I
>>>>>>>>>>> have built. I have had a nice look around for the file that I am
>>>>>>>>>>> interested in, which from the previously mentioned JIRA issues
>>>>>>>>>>> etc suggest a file called sqlgrammar.jj
>>>>>>>>>>> only problem is I can't find it!
>>>>>>>>>> It's possible that Eclipse doesn't grok '.jj' files in its normal
>>>>>>>>>> configuration.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The file should be in your source tree as:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ./java/engine/org/apache/derby/impl/sql/compile/sqlgrammar.jj
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> There is a compiler-generation tool that processes this file
>>>>>>>>>> during
>>>>>>>>>> the Ant build of Derby and generates Java source from the
>>>>>>>>>> grammar.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>    The tool that generates the java code for the parser from
>>>>>>>>> sqlgrammar.jj is  Javacc.  The generated code is in
>>>>>>>>> generated/java/org/apache/derby/impl/sql/compile which is fun to
>>>>>>>>> look at but shouldn't be changed.
>>>>>>>>> I think there may be an exclipse plugin for javacc but I have
>>>>>>>>> never
>>>>>>>>> used one.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Kathey
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello again all,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sorry I hate to pollute the thread, but I want to ensure that I do
>>>>>>>> things 'the apache way' and not just my way!
>>>>>>>> So I need a little advice.
>>>>>>>> First some info.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The file as mentioned by Bryan has been located. Thanks to Kathey's
>>>>>>>> pointer I have found the actual java file that is going to be of
>>>>>>>> interest to me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The files that I think are going to be informative are:
>>>>>>>> SQLParserConstants.java ~ this is the interface
>>>>>>>> SQLParser ~ a class file that implements this interface is
>>>>>>>> This file is found in Source Folder: generated/java/
>>>>>>>>                                          package:
>>>>>>>> org.apache.derby.impl.sql.compile
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So now it is a question of testing out my idea !
>>>>>>>> The interface <SQLParserConstants.java> has no methods, only static
>>>>>>>> final "int" members.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This leads me to a potential solution as follows:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Create a method that has an inner class that implements the
>>>>>>>> SQLParserConstants.java interface
>>>>>>>> This inner class has a single method that grabs all of the members
>>>>>>>> and inserts them into a arrayList<String> - for "equal time access"
>>>>>>>> to the values.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We can then access this arrayList and compare a passed in value to
>>>>>>>> determine if the value exists in the list.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> My first idea is to test the method within a test class, a good
>>>>>>>> candidate for its location is the following I think.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> TestDbMetaData
>>>>>>>> located in source folder java/test
>>>>>>>> package ~ org.apache.derbyTesting.functionTests.tests.jdbc4
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Or alternatively I can create a separate test class to test the
>>>>>>>> idea
>>>>>>>> (which would probably be my preference to start with, then once it
>>>>>>>> works as I would like it to everything can be copied into a more
>>>>>>>> sensible location.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Once I have the method functioning I could add it into a specific
>>>>>>>> package (probably databaseMetaData), then test it in situ.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Does the above seem like a valid process?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have a few queries about the test suite.
>>>>>>>> I have been using Junit4 from within eclipse, and I'm aware that
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> use Junit 3.8. I notice that with your test files you don't use
>>>>>>>> annotations for the methods. With the exception of the setup and
>>>>>>>> tear down methods, how do you control the flow through the test? In
>>>>>>>> Junit 4 you place a <@Test> token on the line before the method if
>>>>>>>> you want the method to run, along with annotations like
>>>>>>>> <@before> if
>>>>>>>> there are any that need to come before other stuff.
>>>>>>>> Also my test classes have only really had 1 method I want to run at
>>>>>>>> a time, so I just comment out the <@Test> annotation to effectively
>>>>>>>> turn off the method.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please add your comments.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> David
>>>


Re: Derby Key Words

Posted by Dag Wanvik <da...@oracle.com>.
On 04.12.2012 17:57, Rick Hillegas wrote:
> Hi David,
>
> I have added a comment to DERBY-3256. I think that Dag's solution
> looks complete and reasonable. I recommend that it be committed and
> documented. Does his solution not solve your original problem?
>
Thanks for looking at the patch, Rick. I think David wants to extend
this solution so one could get these keywords via DataBaseMetaData?

Thanks,
Dag

> Thanks,
> -Rick
>
> On 11/26/12 2:16 PM, david myers wrote:
>> Hello All,
>>
>> As always first off I should appologise for being quiet, i've been
>> reading through the code and I think I start to understand things
>> that were not very clear to me previously.
>>
>> My current situation is now the following
>>
>> I've got myself well sorted out.
>>
>> Eclipse now has a 'handle' on the svn repo (copied locally of
>> course), and I've been able to grab Dag's patch and it to this, all
>> from inside eclipse (which I'm pleased worked out).
>>
>> Dag's code is interesting, very cool.
>>
>> I feel my next steps are as follows...
>>
>> I need to write a new class (or extend an existing one). I guess
>> something in DB MetaData. But what and where?
>> Then I need to test it. Where should I put my test class (or again
>> should I add the test to a class that already exists.
>>
>> I feel that I am now ready to implement this. I just need some
>> pointers of how to run my individual test case (I make the assumption
>> that as I'm not going near anything else in the first instance I
>> shouldn't break it (that is also why I propose a new subclass of one
>> of the existing dbMetaData classes).
>>
>> I hope to become a little more active before christmass
>>
>> David.
>>
>>
>> On 15/10/12 20:48, david myers wrote:
>>> Dag,
>>>
>>> thanks for the info. I'll have a try with that later on.
>>> One thing though, should I not be in my < derby trunk sandbox of
>>> checked out from svn[1] > before doing wget (surely I'll end up with
>>> it in the wrong place)... I'm probably showing my ignorance about
>>> wget and svn as I've not done this sort of stuff before ;)
>>>
>>> Not that it matters, I'll check it out later on....
>>>
>>> David
>>>
>>> On 15/10/12 13:06, Dag Wanvik wrote:
>>>> Hi David,
>>>>
>>>> to access the patch I made, you need to download the patch attached to
>>>> the JIRA issue, e.g. this way
>>>>
>>>> $ wget --no-check-certificate
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12544418/derbykeywords-1.diff
>>>>
>>>> $ cd <your Derby trunk sandbox of checked out from svn[1]>
>>>> $ patch -p0 < derbykeywords-1.diff
>>>>
>>>> Hope this works!
>>>>
>>>> [1] See here
>>>> http://db.apache.org/derby/dev/derby_source.html#Development+trunk
>>>> $ svn checkout https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/db/derby/code/trunk/
>>>>
>>>> Since my patch only did part of what you wanted, I didn't commit it
>>>> yet,
>>>> so feel free to build on it.
>>>> Good luck!
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Dag
>>>>
>>>> On 14.10.2012 20:28, david myers wrote:
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> must apologise for being so quiet,busy with my 'real' job etc.
>>>>> However
>>>>> this doesn't mean I've been ignoring what I want to do.
>>>>>
>>>>> I've been reading around the code to determine the files that I am
>>>>> going to require to initiate this little modification. I think I am
>>>>> begining to understand how things work a little better. Firstly
>>>>> however I want to ensure I have well understood.
>>>>>
>>>>> The file sqlgrammar.jj is read by javacc and creates a bunch of other
>>>>> .java clases.
>>>>>
>>>>> SQLParserConstants.java is one of these files, it is an interface
>>>>> that
>>>>> is implemented by the SQLParser class (also created from
>>>>> sqlgrammar.jj).
>>>>>
>>>>> So if I can modify sqlgrammar.jj I could 'inject' into the SQLParser
>>>>> class a method that return the list of static final members
>>>>> (stored in
>>>>> the tokenImage string array member, so in fact I could just return
>>>>> this member).
>>>>>
>>>>> My problems currently now revolve around the following.
>>>>>
>>>>> DAG has created a method that reads the sqlgrammar.jj file directly
>>>>> and creates the Keywords.java file. I can't seem to find this in my
>>>>> source tree, is this related to needing the specific DERBY-3256
>>>>> checkout. I've tried using the SVN plugin for eclipse to find this
>>>>> checkout, but so far to no success. Any chance someone could walk me
>>>>> through doing this from the CLI (ubuntu 12.04).
>>>>>
>>>>> Should I mention at this point I'm rather new to SVN (actually
>>>>> version
>>>>> control in general!), did I say previously this is my first multi
>>>>> person project?
>>>>> sorry I digress....
>>>>>
>>>>> I've located the files that I think I'm going to need.
>>>>> EmbededDataBaseMetaData[40].java and TestDBMetaData.java where I will
>>>>> put my < getDerbyKeyWords() > method and test.
>>>>>
>>>>> Rik thanks for waving your hands about the compile time tool. I think
>>>>> this may be what I need to implement my < getTokenImage() > so any
>>>>> pointers would be great.
>>>>>
>>>>> Once I've got the method working locally I guess I'll need to
>>>>> create a
>>>>> bug or something, that points to the various JIRA issues, and then
>>>>> solve it.... but for me that comes a little later. For now I want to
>>>>> write the method into my local tree only. Then recompile, test ...
>>>>> blah blah blah...
>>>>>
>>>>> Is this an acceptable way in which to proceed? Any suggestions advice
>>>>> are welcome.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>>
>>>>> David.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 10/09/12 01:23, Dag Wanvik wrote:
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I added an experimental patch to DERBY-3256 which seems to do (part
>>>>>> of) the job. It uses the actual lists from sqlgrammar.jj to generate
>>>>>> Keywords.java at compile time, and wraps those in a table function.
>>>>>> There is no metadata function in it but it could be used to provide
>>>>>> those functions, I think, if we decide that's the way to go.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dag
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 05.09.2012 23:28, david myers wrote:
>>>>>>> On 05/09/12 06:25, Katherine Marsden wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 9/4/2012 7:44 PM, Bryan Pendleton wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> I've had success in pointing Eclipse to the source code that I
>>>>>>>>>> have built. I have had a nice look around for the file that I am
>>>>>>>>>> interested in, which from the previously mentioned JIRA issues
>>>>>>>>>> etc suggest a file called sqlgrammar.jj
>>>>>>>>>> only problem is I can't find it!
>>>>>>>>> It's possible that Eclipse doesn't grok '.jj' files in its normal
>>>>>>>>> configuration.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The file should be in your source tree as:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ./java/engine/org/apache/derby/impl/sql/compile/sqlgrammar.jj
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> There is a compiler-generation tool that processes this file
>>>>>>>>> during
>>>>>>>>> the Ant build of Derby and generates Java source from the
>>>>>>>>> grammar.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   The tool that generates the java code for the parser from
>>>>>>>> sqlgrammar.jj is  Javacc.  The generated code is in
>>>>>>>> generated/java/org/apache/derby/impl/sql/compile which is fun to
>>>>>>>> look at but shouldn't be changed.
>>>>>>>> I think there may be an exclipse plugin for javacc but I have
>>>>>>>> never
>>>>>>>> used one.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kathey
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello again all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry I hate to pollute the thread, but I want to ensure that I do
>>>>>>> things 'the apache way' and not just my way!
>>>>>>> So I need a little advice.
>>>>>>> First some info.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The file as mentioned by Bryan has been located. Thanks to Kathey's
>>>>>>> pointer I have found the actual java file that is going to be of
>>>>>>> interest to me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The files that I think are going to be informative are:
>>>>>>> SQLParserConstants.java ~ this is the interface
>>>>>>> SQLParser ~ a class file that implements this interface is
>>>>>>> This file is found in Source Folder: generated/java/
>>>>>>>                                         package:
>>>>>>> org.apache.derby.impl.sql.compile
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So now it is a question of testing out my idea !
>>>>>>> The interface <SQLParserConstants.java> has no methods, only static
>>>>>>> final "int" members.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This leads me to a potential solution as follows:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Create a method that has an inner class that implements the
>>>>>>> SQLParserConstants.java interface
>>>>>>> This inner class has a single method that grabs all of the members
>>>>>>> and inserts them into a arrayList<String> - for "equal time access"
>>>>>>> to the values.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We can then access this arrayList and compare a passed in value to
>>>>>>> determine if the value exists in the list.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My first idea is to test the method within a test class, a good
>>>>>>> candidate for its location is the following I think.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> TestDbMetaData
>>>>>>> located in source folder java/test
>>>>>>> package ~ org.apache.derbyTesting.functionTests.tests.jdbc4
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or alternatively I can create a separate test class to test the
>>>>>>> idea
>>>>>>> (which would probably be my preference to start with, then once it
>>>>>>> works as I would like it to everything can be copied into a more
>>>>>>> sensible location.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Once I have the method functioning I could add it into a specific
>>>>>>> package (probably databaseMetaData), then test it in situ.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Does the above seem like a valid process?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have a few queries about the test suite.
>>>>>>> I have been using Junit4 from within eclipse, and I'm aware that
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> use Junit 3.8. I notice that with your test files you don't use
>>>>>>> annotations for the methods. With the exception of the setup and
>>>>>>> tear down methods, how do you control the flow through the test? In
>>>>>>> Junit 4 you place a <@Test> token on the line before the method if
>>>>>>> you want the method to run, along with annotations like
>>>>>>> <@before> if
>>>>>>> there are any that need to come before other stuff.
>>>>>>> Also my test classes have only really had 1 method I want to run at
>>>>>>> a time, so I just comment out the <@Test> annotation to effectively
>>>>>>> turn off the method.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please add your comments.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> David
>>>
>>
>>
>


Re: Derby Key Words

Posted by Rick Hillegas <ri...@oracle.com>.
Hi David,

I have added a comment to DERBY-3256. I think that Dag's solution looks 
complete and reasonable. I recommend that it be committed and 
documented. Does his solution not solve your original problem?

Thanks,
-Rick

On 11/26/12 2:16 PM, david myers wrote:
> Hello All,
>
> As always first off I should appologise for being quiet, i've been 
> reading through the code and I think I start to understand things that 
> were not very clear to me previously.
>
> My current situation is now the following
>
> I've got myself well sorted out.
>
> Eclipse now has a 'handle' on the svn repo (copied locally of course), 
> and I've been able to grab Dag's patch and it to this, all from inside 
> eclipse (which I'm pleased worked out).
>
> Dag's code is interesting, very cool.
>
> I feel my next steps are as follows...
>
> I need to write a new class (or extend an existing one). I guess 
> something in DB MetaData. But what and where?
> Then I need to test it. Where should I put my test class (or again 
> should I add the test to a class that already exists.
>
> I feel that I am now ready to implement this. I just need some 
> pointers of how to run my individual test case (I make the assumption 
> that as I'm not going near anything else in the first instance I 
> shouldn't break it (that is also why I propose a new subclass of one 
> of the existing dbMetaData classes).
>
> I hope to become a little more active before christmass
>
> David.
>
>
> On 15/10/12 20:48, david myers wrote:
>> Dag,
>>
>> thanks for the info. I'll have a try with that later on.
>> One thing though, should I not be in my < derby trunk sandbox of 
>> checked out from svn[1] > before doing wget (surely I'll end up with 
>> it in the wrong place)... I'm probably showing my ignorance about 
>> wget and svn as I've not done this sort of stuff before ;)
>>
>> Not that it matters, I'll check it out later on....
>>
>> David
>>
>> On 15/10/12 13:06, Dag Wanvik wrote:
>>> Hi David,
>>>
>>> to access the patch I made, you need to download the patch attached to
>>> the JIRA issue, e.g. this way
>>>
>>> $ wget --no-check-certificate
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/attachment/12544418/derbykeywords-1.diff 
>>>
>>> $ cd <your Derby trunk sandbox of checked out from svn[1]>
>>> $ patch -p0 < derbykeywords-1.diff
>>>
>>> Hope this works!
>>>
>>> [1] See here
>>> http://db.apache.org/derby/dev/derby_source.html#Development+trunk
>>> $ svn checkout https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/db/derby/code/trunk/
>>>
>>> Since my patch only did part of what you wanted, I didn't commit it 
>>> yet,
>>> so feel free to build on it.
>>> Good luck!
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Dag
>>>
>>> On 14.10.2012 20:28, david myers wrote:
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> must apologise for being so quiet,busy with my 'real' job etc. However
>>>> this doesn't mean I've been ignoring what I want to do.
>>>>
>>>> I've been reading around the code to determine the files that I am
>>>> going to require to initiate this little modification. I think I am
>>>> begining to understand how things work a little better. Firstly
>>>> however I want to ensure I have well understood.
>>>>
>>>> The file sqlgrammar.jj is read by javacc and creates a bunch of other
>>>> .java clases.
>>>>
>>>> SQLParserConstants.java is one of these files, it is an interface that
>>>> is implemented by the SQLParser class (also created from 
>>>> sqlgrammar.jj).
>>>>
>>>> So if I can modify sqlgrammar.jj I could 'inject' into the SQLParser
>>>> class a method that return the list of static final members (stored in
>>>> the tokenImage string array member, so in fact I could just return
>>>> this member).
>>>>
>>>> My problems currently now revolve around the following.
>>>>
>>>> DAG has created a method that reads the sqlgrammar.jj file directly
>>>> and creates the Keywords.java file. I can't seem to find this in my
>>>> source tree, is this related to needing the specific DERBY-3256
>>>> checkout. I've tried using the SVN plugin for eclipse to find this
>>>> checkout, but so far to no success. Any chance someone could walk me
>>>> through doing this from the CLI (ubuntu 12.04).
>>>>
>>>> Should I mention at this point I'm rather new to SVN (actually version
>>>> control in general!), did I say previously this is my first multi
>>>> person project?
>>>> sorry I digress....
>>>>
>>>> I've located the files that I think I'm going to need.
>>>> EmbededDataBaseMetaData[40].java and TestDBMetaData.java where I will
>>>> put my < getDerbyKeyWords() > method and test.
>>>>
>>>> Rik thanks for waving your hands about the compile time tool. I think
>>>> this may be what I need to implement my < getTokenImage() > so any
>>>> pointers would be great.
>>>>
>>>> Once I've got the method working locally I guess I'll need to create a
>>>> bug or something, that points to the various JIRA issues, and then
>>>> solve it.... but for me that comes a little later. For now I want to
>>>> write the method into my local tree only. Then recompile, test ...
>>>> blah blah blah...
>>>>
>>>> Is this an acceptable way in which to proceed? Any suggestions advice
>>>> are welcome.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks in advance.
>>>>
>>>> David.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/09/12 01:23, Dag Wanvik wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I added an experimental patch to DERBY-3256 which seems to do (part
>>>>> of) the job. It uses the actual lists from sqlgrammar.jj to generate
>>>>> Keywords.java at compile time, and wraps those in a table function.
>>>>> There is no metadata function in it but it could be used to provide
>>>>> those functions, I think, if we decide that's the way to go.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dag
>>>>>
>>>>> On 05.09.2012 23:28, david myers wrote:
>>>>>> On 05/09/12 06:25, Katherine Marsden wrote:
>>>>>>> On 9/4/2012 7:44 PM, Bryan Pendleton wrote:
>>>>>>>>> I've had success in pointing Eclipse to the source code that I
>>>>>>>>> have built. I have had a nice look around for the file that I am
>>>>>>>>> interested in, which from the previously mentioned JIRA issues
>>>>>>>>> etc suggest a file called sqlgrammar.jj
>>>>>>>>> only problem is I can't find it!
>>>>>>>> It's possible that Eclipse doesn't grok '.jj' files in its normal
>>>>>>>> configuration.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The file should be in your source tree as:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ./java/engine/org/apache/derby/impl/sql/compile/sqlgrammar.jj
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is a compiler-generation tool that processes this file 
>>>>>>>> during
>>>>>>>> the Ant build of Derby and generates Java source from the grammar.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   The tool that generates the java code for the parser from
>>>>>>> sqlgrammar.jj is  Javacc.  The generated code is in
>>>>>>> generated/java/org/apache/derby/impl/sql/compile which is fun to
>>>>>>> look at but shouldn't be changed.
>>>>>>> I think there may be an exclipse plugin for javacc but I have never
>>>>>>> used one.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kathey
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hello again all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry I hate to pollute the thread, but I want to ensure that I do
>>>>>> things 'the apache way' and not just my way!
>>>>>> So I need a little advice.
>>>>>> First some info.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The file as mentioned by Bryan has been located. Thanks to Kathey's
>>>>>> pointer I have found the actual java file that is going to be of
>>>>>> interest to me.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The files that I think are going to be informative are:
>>>>>> SQLParserConstants.java ~ this is the interface
>>>>>> SQLParser ~ a class file that implements this interface is
>>>>>> This file is found in Source Folder: generated/java/
>>>>>>                                         package:
>>>>>> org.apache.derby.impl.sql.compile
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So now it is a question of testing out my idea !
>>>>>> The interface <SQLParserConstants.java> has no methods, only static
>>>>>> final "int" members.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This leads me to a potential solution as follows:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Create a method that has an inner class that implements the
>>>>>> SQLParserConstants.java interface
>>>>>> This inner class has a single method that grabs all of the members
>>>>>> and inserts them into a arrayList<String> - for "equal time access"
>>>>>> to the values.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We can then access this arrayList and compare a passed in value to
>>>>>> determine if the value exists in the list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My first idea is to test the method within a test class, a good
>>>>>> candidate for its location is the following I think.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> TestDbMetaData
>>>>>> located in source folder java/test
>>>>>> package ~ org.apache.derbyTesting.functionTests.tests.jdbc4
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or alternatively I can create a separate test class to test the idea
>>>>>> (which would probably be my preference to start with, then once it
>>>>>> works as I would like it to everything can be copied into a more
>>>>>> sensible location.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Once I have the method functioning I could add it into a specific
>>>>>> package (probably databaseMetaData), then test it in situ.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Does the above seem like a valid process?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have a few queries about the test suite.
>>>>>> I have been using Junit4 from within eclipse, and I'm aware that you
>>>>>> use Junit 3.8. I notice that with your test files you don't use
>>>>>> annotations for the methods. With the exception of the setup and
>>>>>> tear down methods, how do you control the flow through the test? In
>>>>>> Junit 4 you place a <@Test> token on the line before the method if
>>>>>> you want the method to run, along with annotations like <@before> if
>>>>>> there are any that need to come before other stuff.
>>>>>> Also my test classes have only really had 1 method I want to run at
>>>>>> a time, so I just comment out the <@Test> annotation to effectively
>>>>>> turn off the method.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Please add your comments.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> David
>>
>
>