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Posted to dev@felix.apache.org by "Richard S. Hall" <he...@ungoverned.org> on 2006/03/31 15:53:16 UTC
Shell GUI and Shell Plugin
Hello everyone,
For Oscar I had some simple GUI shell bundles (Shell GUI and Shell
Plugin) that could be used as an alternative to the text shell. There is
no doubt that the GUI shell was super simplistic (just like the text
shell for that matter), but some people liked it. :-)
I was wondering whether or not people think that these bundles should be
brought into Felix as subprojects or not? Even though they are simple,
they could serve as starting points for people interested in improving
them. I think it seems reasonable. What's the general consensus?
-> richard
Re: Shell GUI and Shell Plugin
Posted by "Richard S. Hall" <he...@ungoverned.org>.
Okay, the response was reasonably positive, so I will start moving these
bundles over today.
-> richard
Richard S. Hall wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> For Oscar I had some simple GUI shell bundles (Shell GUI and Shell
> Plugin) that could be used as an alternative to the text shell. There
> is no doubt that the GUI shell was super simplistic (just like the
> text shell for that matter), but some people liked it. :-)
>
> I was wondering whether or not people think that these bundles should
> be brought into Felix as subprojects or not? Even though they are
> simple, they could serve as starting points for people interested in
> improving them. I think it seems reasonable. What's the general
> consensus?
>
> -> richard
>
Re: Shell GUI and Shell Plugin
Posted by "John E. Conlon" <jc...@verticon.com>.
I think many people plan to use Felix as both a background service and
to support gui applications. (I do!) Having a common felix component
that can be visualized from a gui application that allows the user to
manage the application's plugins (aka bundles) is certainly desirable.
Look how well it works for eclipse!
cheers,
John
On Fri, 2006-03-31 at 08:53 -0500, Richard S. Hall wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> For Oscar I had some simple GUI shell bundles (Shell GUI and Shell
> Plugin) that could be used as an alternative to the text shell. There is
> no doubt that the GUI shell was super simplistic (just like the text
> shell for that matter), but some people liked it. :-)
>
> I was wondering whether or not people think that these bundles should be
> brought into Felix as subprojects or not? Even though they are simple,
> they could serve as starting points for people interested in improving
> them. I think it seems reasonable. What's the general consensus?
>
> -> richard
>
Re: Shell GUI and Shell Plugin
Posted by "Richard S. Hall" <he...@ungoverned.org>.
Bruno,
Dependency visualization would be very interesting. I already checked in
the Shell GUI bundle yesterday and I will check in the Shell GUI Plugin
bundle today, which includes some simple examples of shell plugins.
Perhaps you could check it out and try to create your app as a plugin.
I will post more info about these after getting them checked in.
-> richard
Bruno J. M. Melo wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm new to OSGi and recently I was thinking that a good way to learn
> would be develop any application using OSGi. This is a great
> opportunity and I would like to help anyway.
>
> I'm also interested in create a visualization of the dependencies
> using any technique that could help the developer finds out about the
> bundle context... and a search functionality could help too! :-)
>
> Best Regards,
> Bruno Melo
>
> Eelco Kurvers wrote:
>
>> Hi Richard.
>>
>> I'd sure like to see it back. It really helped me to look into the
>> possibility to make a GUI. I think it also helps starting OSGi
>> developers,
>> like myself to learn how everything works.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Eelco Kurvers
>>
>> On 3/31/06, Richard S. Hall <he...@ungoverned.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Hello everyone,
>>>
>>> For Oscar I had some simple GUI shell bundles (Shell GUI and Shell
>>> Plugin) that could be used as an alternative to the text shell.
>>> There is
>>> no doubt that the GUI shell was super simplistic (just like the text
>>> shell for that matter), but some people liked it. :-)
>>>
>>> I was wondering whether or not people think that these bundles
>>> should be
>>> brought into Felix as subprojects or not? Even though they are simple,
>>> they could serve as starting points for people interested in improving
>>> them. I think it seems reasonable. What's the general consensus?
>>>
>>> -> richard
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
Re: Shell GUI and Shell Plugin
Posted by "Bruno J. M. Melo" <bj...@dsc.upe.br>.
Hello,
I'm new to OSGi and recently I was thinking that a good way to learn
would be develop any application using OSGi. This is a great opportunity
and I would like to help anyway.
I'm also interested in create a visualization of the dependencies
using any technique that could help the developer finds out about the
bundle context... and a search functionality could help too! :-)
Best Regards,
Bruno Melo
Eelco Kurvers wrote:
>Hi Richard.
>
>I'd sure like to see it back. It really helped me to look into the
>possibility to make a GUI. I think it also helps starting OSGi developers,
>like myself to learn how everything works.
>
>Regards,
>Eelco Kurvers
>
>On 3/31/06, Richard S. Hall <he...@ungoverned.org> wrote:
>
>
>>Hello everyone,
>>
>>For Oscar I had some simple GUI shell bundles (Shell GUI and Shell
>>Plugin) that could be used as an alternative to the text shell. There is
>>no doubt that the GUI shell was super simplistic (just like the text
>>shell for that matter), but some people liked it. :-)
>>
>>I was wondering whether or not people think that these bundles should be
>>brought into Felix as subprojects or not? Even though they are simple,
>>they could serve as starting points for people interested in improving
>>them. I think it seems reasonable. What's the general consensus?
>>
>>-> richard
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
Re: Shell GUI and Shell Plugin
Posted by Eelco Kurvers <ee...@gmail.com>.
Hi Richard.
I'd sure like to see it back. It really helped me to look into the
possibility to make a GUI. I think it also helps starting OSGi developers,
like myself to learn how everything works.
Regards,
Eelco Kurvers
On 3/31/06, Richard S. Hall <he...@ungoverned.org> wrote:
>
> Hello everyone,
>
> For Oscar I had some simple GUI shell bundles (Shell GUI and Shell
> Plugin) that could be used as an alternative to the text shell. There is
> no doubt that the GUI shell was super simplistic (just like the text
> shell for that matter), but some people liked it. :-)
>
> I was wondering whether or not people think that these bundles should be
> brought into Felix as subprojects or not? Even though they are simple,
> they could serve as starting points for people interested in improving
> them. I think it seems reasonable. What's the general consensus?
>
> -> richard
>
Re: Shell GUI and Shell Plugin
Posted by Karl Pauls <ka...@gmail.com>.
> I was wondering whether or not people think that these bundles should be
> brought into Felix as subprojects or not? Even though they are simple,
> they could serve as starting points for people interested in improving
> them. I think it seems reasonable. What's the general consensus?
>
> -> richard
+1
I liked it and in my experience it serves as a good starting point for
people that are new to OSGi (e.g., students).
regards,
Karl
--
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pauls@inf.fu-berlin.de
Re: Shell GUI and Shell Plugin
Posted by Rob Walker <ro...@ascert.com>.
Can I have a TUI please ;)
(I've never really liked GUIs - could never figure what keystrokes to use!)
-- Rob
stephane.frenot@insa-lyon.fr wrote:
>Yes of course.
>
>/stephane
>On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 08:53:16AM -0500, Richard S. Hall wrote:
>
>
>>Hello everyone,
>>
>>For Oscar I had some simple GUI shell bundles (Shell GUI and Shell
>>Plugin) that could be used as an alternative to the text shell. There is
>>no doubt that the GUI shell was super simplistic (just like the text
>>shell for that matter), but some people liked it. :-)
>>
>>I was wondering whether or not people think that these bundles should be
>>brought into Felix as subprojects or not? Even though they are simple,
>>they could serve as starting points for people interested in improving
>>them. I think it seems reasonable. What's the general consensus?
>>
>>-> richard
>>
>>
>
>
>
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Re: Shell GUI and Shell Plugin
Posted by st...@insa-lyon.fr.
Yes of course.
/stephane
On Fri, Mar 31, 2006 at 08:53:16AM -0500, Richard S. Hall wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> For Oscar I had some simple GUI shell bundles (Shell GUI and Shell
> Plugin) that could be used as an alternative to the text shell. There is
> no doubt that the GUI shell was super simplistic (just like the text
> shell for that matter), but some people liked it. :-)
>
> I was wondering whether or not people think that these bundles should be
> brought into Felix as subprojects or not? Even though they are simple,
> they could serve as starting points for people interested in improving
> them. I think it seems reasonable. What's the general consensus?
>
> -> richard
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Re: Shell GUI and Shell Plugin
Posted by Alex Karasulu <ao...@bellsouth.net>.
Richard S. Hall wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> For Oscar I had some simple GUI shell bundles (Shell GUI and Shell
> Plugin) that could be used as an alternative to the text shell. There
> is no doubt that the GUI shell was super simplistic (just like the
> text shell for that matter), but some people liked it. :-)
>
> I was wondering whether or not people think that these bundles should
> be brought into Felix as subprojects or not? Even though they are
> simple, they could serve as starting points for people interested in
> improving them. I think it seems reasonable. What's the general
> consensus?
Sure bring it on.
Alex
Re: Shell GUI and Shell Plugin
Posted by Francesco Furfari <fr...@isti.cnr.it>.
People liked it , a light GUI can be useful for several reasons.
If you open a project perhaps after few revisions you will lost it's
lightness.
BTW I agree with you, for example a graph viewer that reports all the
dependences would be nice to have.
francesco
Richard S. Hall wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> For Oscar I had some simple GUI shell bundles (Shell GUI and Shell
> Plugin) that could be used as an alternative to the text shell. There is
> no doubt that the GUI shell was super simplistic (just like the text
> shell for that matter), but some people liked it. :-)
>
> I was wondering whether or not people think that these bundles should be
> brought into Felix as subprojects or not? Even though they are simple,
> they could serve as starting points for people interested in improving
> them. I think it seems reasonable. What's the general consensus?
>
> -> richard
Re: Shell GUI and Shell Plugin
Posted by Didier Donsez <di...@imag.fr>.
Richard S. Hall a écrit :
> Hello everyone,
>
> For Oscar I had some simple GUI shell bundles (Shell GUI and Shell
> Plugin) that could be used as an alternative to the text shell. There
> is no doubt that the GUI shell was super simplistic (just like the
> text shell for that matter), but some people liked it. :-)
>
> I was wondering whether or not people think that these bundles should
> be brought into Felix as subprojects or not? Even though they are
> simple, they could serve as starting points for people interested in
> improving them. I think it seems reasonable. What's the general
> consensus?
>
> -> richard
>
Sure
I develop one for the Oscar 1.0.5 GUI
to run Oscar shell command scripts
http://www-adele.imag.fr/~donsez/dev/osgi/scriptplugin/readme.html
Didier
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