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[all] m1->m2 migration
So.... what's the plan?
Currently Brett has the beginnings of a migration (read: all the hard
work) in the commons-sandbox. It looks good, and I'm very impressed
with the apt site system.
Obviously continuing with sandbox makes sense; but how to do it?
If it just got migrated, how long would we need the old maven-1 stuff
to stay? Just long enough for us to vote on a migration?
[csv] is ready to goto m2 only, so should I call a vote on that
individually to remove the m1 stuff. then move onto the next project
etc etc?
Suddenly I'm fired up with energy again, so look out :) My post
csv2svn break seems over.
Hen
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Re: [all] m1->m2 migration
Posted by Dion Gillard <di...@gmail.com>.
m2 does have a functioning, released ant plugin, right?
On 3/3/06, Bill Barker <wb...@wilshire.com> wrote:
>
> As a warning, Gump currently doesn't support M2. As a result, any project
> that moves to *exclusively* requiring M2 will lose Gump builds (but will
> still get Nagged, unless they change the Gump descriptor :).
>
> "Henri Yandell" <fl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:31cc37360603022038of345e66m6e29d7dca5aaecb3@mail.gmail.com...
> So.... what's the plan?
>
> Currently Brett has the beginnings of a migration (read: all the hard
> work) in the commons-sandbox. It looks good, and I'm very impressed
> with the apt site system.
>
> Obviously continuing with sandbox makes sense; but how to do it?
>
> If it just got migrated, how long would we need the old maven-1 stuff
> to stay? Just long enough for us to vote on a migration?
>
> [csv] is ready to goto m2 only, so should I call a vote on that
> individually to remove the m1 stuff. then move onto the next project
> etc etc?
>
> Suddenly I'm fired up with energy again, so look out :) My post
> csv2svn break seems over.
>
> Hen
>
>
>
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Re: [all] m1->m2 migration
Posted by Brett Porter <br...@apache.org>.
I've added gump support to some prereqs on the wiki page.
- Brett
Bill Barker wrote:
> As a warning, Gump currently doesn't support M2. As a result, any project
> that moves to *exclusively* requiring M2 will lose Gump builds (but will
> still get Nagged, unless they change the Gump descriptor :).
>
> "Henri Yandell" <fl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> news:31cc37360603022038of345e66m6e29d7dca5aaecb3@mail.gmail.com...
> So.... what's the plan?
>
> Currently Brett has the beginnings of a migration (read: all the hard
> work) in the commons-sandbox. It looks good, and I'm very impressed
> with the apt site system.
>
> Obviously continuing with sandbox makes sense; but how to do it?
>
> If it just got migrated, how long would we need the old maven-1 stuff
> to stay? Just long enough for us to vote on a migration?
>
> [csv] is ready to goto m2 only, so should I call a vote on that
> individually to remove the m1 stuff. then move onto the next project
> etc etc?
>
> Suddenly I'm fired up with energy again, so look out :) My post
> csv2svn break seems over.
>
> Hen
>
>
>
>
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Re: [all] m1->m2 migration
Posted by Bill Barker <wb...@wilshire.com>.
As a warning, Gump currently doesn't support M2. As a result, any project
that moves to *exclusively* requiring M2 will lose Gump builds (but will
still get Nagged, unless they change the Gump descriptor :).
"Henri Yandell" <fl...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:31cc37360603022038of345e66m6e29d7dca5aaecb3@mail.gmail.com...
So.... what's the plan?
Currently Brett has the beginnings of a migration (read: all the hard
work) in the commons-sandbox. It looks good, and I'm very impressed
with the apt site system.
Obviously continuing with sandbox makes sense; but how to do it?
If it just got migrated, how long would we need the old maven-1 stuff
to stay? Just long enough for us to vote on a migration?
[csv] is ready to goto m2 only, so should I call a vote on that
individually to remove the m1 stuff. then move onto the next project
etc etc?
Suddenly I'm fired up with energy again, so look out :) My post
csv2svn break seems over.
Hen
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Re: [all] m1->m2 migration
Posted by Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com>.
On 3/2/06, Dion Gillard <di...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 3/3/06, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > If that's the only one, I can take care of that after the sandbox is
> > done. It's a fairly stock report plugin. Of course ,if there are other
> > volunteers, I won't complain :)
> >
> > I would assume it would make sense for this plugin to live in Jelly
> > itself now.
>
>
> Yep. As would the m1 plugin.
Cool. I'll start recording these on the wiki:
http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/Maven2MigrationPlan?
Hen
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Re: [all] m1->m2 migration
Posted by Dion Gillard <di...@gmail.com>.
On 3/3/06, Brett Porter <br...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> If that's the only one, I can take care of that after the sandbox is
> done. It's a fairly stock report plugin. Of course ,if there are other
> volunteers, I won't complain :)
>
> I would assume it would make sense for this plugin to live in Jelly
> itself now.
Yep. As would the m1 plugin.
- Brett
>
> Dion Gillard wrote:
> > It's JellyDoc. An m1 plugin that AFAIK doesn't exist for m2. We need it
> to
> > generate the documentation for a whole load of Jelly taglibs.
> >
>
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Re: [all] m1->m2 migration
Posted by Brett Porter <br...@apache.org>.
If that's the only one, I can take care of that after the sandbox is
done. It's a fairly stock report plugin. Of course ,if there are other
volunteers, I won't complain :)
I would assume it would make sense for this plugin to live in Jelly
itself now.
- Brett
Dion Gillard wrote:
> It's JellyDoc. An m1 plugin that AFAIK doesn't exist for m2. We need it to
> generate the documentation for a whole load of Jelly taglibs.
>
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Re: [all] m1->m2 migration
Posted by Dion Gillard <di...@gmail.com>.
It's JellyDoc. An m1 plugin that AFAIK doesn't exist for m2. We need it to
generate the documentation for a whole load of Jelly taglibs.
On 3/3/06, Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Is it Jelly specific stuff? [jellydoc?] or just various reports that
> I'm going to try and convince you are unnecessary? :)
>
> [given that I think our site should be much, much simpler].
>
> Hen
>
> On 3/2/06, Dion Gillard <di...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > There are plugins that Jelly would need before moving to m2 to build our
> > current site, and given the sheer amount of work needed and the lack of
> > available resource, I can't see it moving any time soon.
> >
> > On 3/3/06, Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > So.... what's the plan?
> > >
> > > Currently Brett has the beginnings of a migration (read: all the hard
> > > work) in the commons-sandbox. It looks good, and I'm very impressed
> > > with the apt site system.
> > >
> > > Obviously continuing with sandbox makes sense; but how to do it?
> > >
> > > If it just got migrated, how long would we need the old maven-1 stuff
> > > to stay? Just long enough for us to vote on a migration?
> > >
> > > [csv] is ready to goto m2 only, so should I call a vote on that
> > > individually to remove the m1 stuff. then move onto the next project
> > > etc etc?
> > >
> > > Suddenly I'm fired up with energy again, so look out :) My post
> > > csv2svn break seems over.
> > >
> > > Hen
> > >
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> >
> >
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> > of the dark, but because the dark is afraid of Chuck Norris
> >
> >
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Re: [all] m1->m2 migration
Posted by Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com>.
Is it Jelly specific stuff? [jellydoc?] or just various reports that
I'm going to try and convince you are unnecessary? :)
[given that I think our site should be much, much simpler].
Hen
On 3/2/06, Dion Gillard <di...@gmail.com> wrote:
> There are plugins that Jelly would need before moving to m2 to build our
> current site, and given the sheer amount of work needed and the lack of
> available resource, I can't see it moving any time soon.
>
> On 3/3/06, Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > So.... what's the plan?
> >
> > Currently Brett has the beginnings of a migration (read: all the hard
> > work) in the commons-sandbox. It looks good, and I'm very impressed
> > with the apt site system.
> >
> > Obviously continuing with sandbox makes sense; but how to do it?
> >
> > If it just got migrated, how long would we need the old maven-1 stuff
> > to stay? Just long enough for us to vote on a migration?
> >
> > [csv] is ready to goto m2 only, so should I call a vote on that
> > individually to remove the m1 stuff. then move onto the next project
> > etc etc?
> >
> > Suddenly I'm fired up with energy again, so look out :) My post
> > csv2svn break seems over.
> >
> > Hen
> >
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Re: [all] m1->m2 migration
Posted by Dion Gillard <di...@gmail.com>.
There are plugins that Jelly would need before moving to m2 to build our
current site, and given the sheer amount of work needed and the lack of
available resource, I can't see it moving any time soon.
On 3/3/06, Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> So.... what's the plan?
>
> Currently Brett has the beginnings of a migration (read: all the hard
> work) in the commons-sandbox. It looks good, and I'm very impressed
> with the apt site system.
>
> Obviously continuing with sandbox makes sense; but how to do it?
>
> If it just got migrated, how long would we need the old maven-1 stuff
> to stay? Just long enough for us to vote on a migration?
>
> [csv] is ready to goto m2 only, so should I call a vote on that
> individually to remove the m1 stuff. then move onto the next project
> etc etc?
>
> Suddenly I'm fired up with energy again, so look out :) My post
> csv2svn break seems over.
>
> Hen
>
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Re: [all] m1->m2 migration
Posted by Rahul Akolkar <ra...@gmail.com>.
On 3/3/06, Dennis Lundberg <de...@apache.org> wrote:
> Rahul Akolkar wrote:
> > Starting afresh, since this is a new question, but the thread may be
> > appropriate.
> >
> > Is the APT format necessary, or can we use xdocs with m2?
>
> M2 supports both formats.
> It also supports the fml format that is used in the m1 faq plugin.
<snip/>
Thanks, good to know :-)
-Rahul
>
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Re: [all] m1->m2 migration
Posted by Dennis Lundberg <de...@apache.org>.
Rahul Akolkar wrote:
> Starting afresh, since this is a new question, but the thread may be
> appropriate.
>
> Is the APT format necessary, or can we use xdocs with m2?
M2 supports both formats.
It also supports the fml format that is used in the m1 faq plugin.
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Re: [all] m1->m2 migration
Posted by Rahul Akolkar <ra...@gmail.com>.
Starting afresh, since this is a new question, but the thread may be
appropriate.
Is the APT format necessary, or can we use xdocs with m2?
-Rahul
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Re: [all] m1->m2 migration
Posted by Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com>.
On 3/3/06, Dion Gillard <di...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 3/4/06, Dennis Lundberg <de...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Henri Yandell wrote:
> > > So.... what's the plan?
> > >
> > > Currently Brett has the beginnings of a migration (read: all the hard
> > > work) in the commons-sandbox. It looks good, and I'm very impressed
> > > with the apt site system.
> > >
> > > Obviously continuing with sandbox makes sense; but how to do it?
> > >
> > > If it just got migrated, how long would we need the old maven-1 stuff
> > > to stay? Just long enough for us to vote on a migration?
> >
> > That depends on what our demands are. Do we require that all Maven 2
> > plugins that we use must be released?
>
>
> +1. Given what I see on a daily basis on the maven users list, using
> anything but a released plugin makes m2 more fragile and unstable.
Very +1. Getting in the situation where people have to do odd things
to build code and site is not something we want to get into again
(it's where we are with m1).
Making it easy for people to get involved needs to be a big priority
for us, else we'll starve; and if we don't make it easy for a new
component to follow the rules and use the same structure, they won't
follow the rules.
Hen
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Re: [all] m1->m2 migration
Posted by Dion Gillard <di...@gmail.com>.
On 3/4/06, Dennis Lundberg <de...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Henri Yandell wrote:
> > So.... what's the plan?
> >
> > Currently Brett has the beginnings of a migration (read: all the hard
> > work) in the commons-sandbox. It looks good, and I'm very impressed
> > with the apt site system.
> >
> > Obviously continuing with sandbox makes sense; but how to do it?
> >
> > If it just got migrated, how long would we need the old maven-1 stuff
> > to stay? Just long enough for us to vote on a migration?
>
> That depends on what our demands are. Do we require that all Maven 2
> plugins that we use must be released?
+1. Given what I see on a daily basis on the maven users list, using
anything but a released plugin makes m2 more fragile and unstable.
Keep in mind that the entire Maven
> 2 project is "self-hosting" and has been for quite some time. See [1]
> for the approximate status of the plugins in question.
>
> > [csv] is ready to goto m2 only, so should I call a vote on that
> > individually to remove the m1 stuff. then move onto the next project
> > etc etc?
>
> Either that or call for a vote for the entire sandbox.
>
> > Suddenly I'm fired up with energy again, so look out :) My post
> > csv2svn break seems over.
>
> Like I said before, I have time available to work on this.
>
> [1] http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/MavenPlugins
>
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Re: [all] m1->m2 migration
Posted by Dennis Lundberg <de...@apache.org>.
Henri Yandell wrote:
> So.... what's the plan?
>
> Currently Brett has the beginnings of a migration (read: all the hard
> work) in the commons-sandbox. It looks good, and I'm very impressed
> with the apt site system.
>
> Obviously continuing with sandbox makes sense; but how to do it?
>
> If it just got migrated, how long would we need the old maven-1 stuff
> to stay? Just long enough for us to vote on a migration?
That depends on what our demands are. Do we require that all Maven 2
plugins that we use must be released? Keep in mind that the entire Maven
2 project is "self-hosting" and has been for quite some time. See [1]
for the approximate status of the plugins in question.
> [csv] is ready to goto m2 only, so should I call a vote on that
> individually to remove the m1 stuff. then move onto the next project
> etc etc?
Either that or call for a vote for the entire sandbox.
> Suddenly I'm fired up with energy again, so look out :) My post
> csv2svn break seems over.
Like I said before, I have time available to work on this.
[1] http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-commons/MavenPlugins
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