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Posted to dev@arrow.apache.org by Antoine Pitrou <an...@python.org> on 2021/06/23 16:39:47 UTC
[Python] Drop Python 3.6 and Numpy 1.16 support?
Hello,
In https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ARROW-12706 it was proposed to
drop support for the aforementioned Python and Numpy versions. The
rationale is that they have ceased to be supported by Numpy, which is a
mandatory dependency of PyArrow.
Besides, Pandas (an optional dependency of PyArrow) already dropped
support for Python 3.6, and Python 3.6 will be unsupported by the Python
core team at the end of 2021.
What do you think? If you are opposed to this, please speak up.
Regards
Antoine.
Re: [Python] Drop Python 3.6 and Numpy 1.16 support?
Posted by Antoine Pitrou <an...@python.org>.
We definitely can. The cost of supporting Python 3.6 is rather low.
Le 23/06/2021 à 20:40, Micah Kornfield a écrit :
> Could we postpone the dropping Python 3.6 support to be inline with what
> the Python core maintainers deadline? Or at least until the Arrow 6
> release?
>
> Thanks,
> Micah
>
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 10:36 AM Wes McKinney <we...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> This seems reasonable to me.
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 11:39 AM Antoine Pitrou <an...@python.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> In https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ARROW-12706 it was proposed to
>>> drop support for the aforementioned Python and Numpy versions. The
>>> rationale is that they have ceased to be supported by Numpy, which is a
>>> mandatory dependency of PyArrow.
>>>
>>> Besides, Pandas (an optional dependency of PyArrow) already dropped
>>> support for Python 3.6, and Python 3.6 will be unsupported by the Python
>>> core team at the end of 2021.
>>>
>>> What do you think? If you are opposed to this, please speak up.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Antoine.
>>>
>>
>
Re: [Python] Drop Python 3.6 and Numpy 1.16 support?
Posted by Micah Kornfield <em...@gmail.com>.
Hi Joris,
The reason why I asked for an extension, is I believe several products from
my company that have Arrow as a dependency still support Python 3.6. Most
are aiming to get off by next quarter. I'm not sure what version they will
jump to. I can't speak to what a general rational policy here is but for
most enterprise users I expect they would like to see support for all
Python versions that aren't EOL.
-Micah
On Thu, Jun 24, 2021 at 12:13 AM Joris Van den Bossche <
jorisvandenbossche@gmail.com> wrote:
> Note that the last bug-fix release of Python 3.6 already happened at
> 2018-12-11 (3.6.8 release), and since then it's only supported for
> source-only and security-only releases.
>
> But agreed with Antoine that it's currently not a big burden to keep
> Python 3.6 a bit longer. With the change of the release cadence of Python
> to annual releases (while they are still supported for 5 years for security
> fixes, as is the case now), this does mean more python versions to test
> against, though, if we keep supporting them the full 5 year in the future
> as well.
>
> Joris
>
> On Wed, 23 Jun 2021 at 20:40, Micah Kornfield <em...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Could we postpone the dropping Python 3.6 support to be inline with what
>> the Python core maintainers deadline? Or at least until the Arrow 6
>> release?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Micah
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 10:36 AM Wes McKinney <we...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > This seems reasonable to me.
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 11:39 AM Antoine Pitrou <an...@python.org>
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > >
>> > > Hello,
>> > >
>> > > In https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ARROW-12706 it was proposed
>> to
>> > > drop support for the aforementioned Python and Numpy versions. The
>> > > rationale is that they have ceased to be supported by Numpy, which is
>> a
>> > > mandatory dependency of PyArrow.
>> > >
>> > > Besides, Pandas (an optional dependency of PyArrow) already dropped
>> > > support for Python 3.6, and Python 3.6 will be unsupported by the
>> Python
>> > > core team at the end of 2021.
>> > >
>> > > What do you think? If you are opposed to this, please speak up.
>> > >
>> > > Regards
>> > >
>> > > Antoine.
>> > >
>> >
>>
>
Re: [Python] Drop Python 3.6 and Numpy 1.16 support?
Posted by Joris Van den Bossche <jo...@gmail.com>.
Note that the last bug-fix release of Python 3.6 already happened at
2018-12-11 (3.6.8 release), and since then it's only supported for
source-only and security-only releases.
But agreed with Antoine that it's currently not a big burden to keep Python
3.6 a bit longer. With the change of the release cadence of Python to
annual releases (while they are still supported for 5 years for security
fixes, as is the case now), this does mean more python versions to test
against, though, if we keep supporting them the full 5 year in the future
as well.
Joris
On Wed, 23 Jun 2021 at 20:40, Micah Kornfield <em...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Could we postpone the dropping Python 3.6 support to be inline with what
> the Python core maintainers deadline? Or at least until the Arrow 6
> release?
>
> Thanks,
> Micah
>
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 10:36 AM Wes McKinney <we...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > This seems reasonable to me.
> >
> > On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 11:39 AM Antoine Pitrou <an...@python.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > In https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ARROW-12706 it was proposed
> to
> > > drop support for the aforementioned Python and Numpy versions. The
> > > rationale is that they have ceased to be supported by Numpy, which is a
> > > mandatory dependency of PyArrow.
> > >
> > > Besides, Pandas (an optional dependency of PyArrow) already dropped
> > > support for Python 3.6, and Python 3.6 will be unsupported by the
> Python
> > > core team at the end of 2021.
> > >
> > > What do you think? If you are opposed to this, please speak up.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Antoine.
> > >
> >
>
Re: [Python] Drop Python 3.6 and Numpy 1.16 support?
Posted by Micah Kornfield <em...@gmail.com>.
Could we postpone the dropping Python 3.6 support to be inline with what
the Python core maintainers deadline? Or at least until the Arrow 6
release?
Thanks,
Micah
On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 10:36 AM Wes McKinney <we...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This seems reasonable to me.
>
> On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 11:39 AM Antoine Pitrou <an...@python.org>
> wrote:
>
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > In https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ARROW-12706 it was proposed to
> > drop support for the aforementioned Python and Numpy versions. The
> > rationale is that they have ceased to be supported by Numpy, which is a
> > mandatory dependency of PyArrow.
> >
> > Besides, Pandas (an optional dependency of PyArrow) already dropped
> > support for Python 3.6, and Python 3.6 will be unsupported by the Python
> > core team at the end of 2021.
> >
> > What do you think? If you are opposed to this, please speak up.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Antoine.
> >
>
Re: [Python] Drop Python 3.6 and Numpy 1.16 support?
Posted by Wes McKinney <we...@gmail.com>.
This seems reasonable to me.
On Wed, Jun 23, 2021 at 11:39 AM Antoine Pitrou <an...@python.org> wrote:
>
> Hello,
>
> In https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ARROW-12706 it was proposed to
> drop support for the aforementioned Python and Numpy versions. The
> rationale is that they have ceased to be supported by Numpy, which is a
> mandatory dependency of PyArrow.
>
> Besides, Pandas (an optional dependency of PyArrow) already dropped
> support for Python 3.6, and Python 3.6 will be unsupported by the Python
> core team at the end of 2021.
>
> What do you think? If you are opposed to this, please speak up.
>
> Regards
>
> Antoine.
>