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Posted to dev@openoffice.apache.org by Arthur Buijs <ar...@artietee.nl> on 2011/07/21 14:41:32 UTC

Oracle Connector for SharePoint

Hello,

The Oracle Connector for SharePoint is very valuable for the OpenOffice.org community. Is it (or can it be) part of the Oracle Grant?

http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/sharepoint_connector
 
--
Regards/groeten,
Arthur Buijs

 

Re: Oracle Connector for SharePoint

Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@googlemail.com>.
Hi Arthur,

you are definitely correct it would be a very useful enhancement where of
course would be also room for improvements. But a general CMIS connector can
help here to address more than only one CMS system. I think we all love open
standards and CMIS is promising to fill a gap here. Anyway a more
specialized SharePoint connector can be necessary to have a solution today,
i am currently don't know how good MS support already the CMIS standard in
SharePoint.

Juergen

On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 5:02 PM, Arthur Buijs <ar...@artietee.nl> wrote:

> Hi Marcus,
>
> Being able to connect is the key to success. In many organisations
> OpenOffice.org (Symphony, LibreOffice, etc.) is part of a heterogeneous
> environment. For sure I am not the only one that sees the benefits of having
> the connector on board.
>
> --
> Regards/groeten,
> Arthur Buijs
>
>
>
> On 07/21/2011 02:58 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>
>> The Connector for MS SharePoint (also for Alfresco's CMS and Oracle's
>> Universal Content Management (UCM)) wasn't part of the OOo development.
>> It was working for OOo, too, yes, but the main point was to have it for
>> StarOffice resp. Oracle Open Office.
>>
>> I don't think it will be part of the grant but of course I enjoy a good
>> surprise. ;-)
>>
>> Marcus
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 07/21/2011 02:41 PM, schrieb Arthur Buijs:
>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> The Oracle Connector for SharePoint is very valuable for the
>>> OpenOffice.org community. Is it (or can it be) part of the Oracle Grant?
>>>
>>> http://extensions.services.**openoffice.org/en/project/**
>>> sharepoint_connector<http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/sharepoint_connector>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Regards/groeten,
>>> Arthur Buijs
>>>
>>

Re: Oracle Connector for SharePoint

Posted by Arthur Buijs <ar...@artietee.nl>.
Hi Marcus,

Being able to connect is the key to success. In many organisations 
OpenOffice.org (Symphony, LibreOffice, etc.) is part of a heterogeneous 
environment. For sure I am not the only one that sees the benefits of 
having the connector on board.

-- 
Regards/groeten,
Arthur Buijs


On 07/21/2011 02:58 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
> The Connector for MS SharePoint (also for Alfresco's CMS and Oracle's
> Universal Content Management (UCM)) wasn't part of the OOo development.
> It was working for OOo, too, yes, but the main point was to have it for
> StarOffice resp. Oracle Open Office.
>
> I don't think it will be part of the grant but of course I enjoy a good
> surprise. ;-)
>
> Marcus
>
>
>
> Am 07/21/2011 02:41 PM, schrieb Arthur Buijs:
>> Hello,
>>
>> The Oracle Connector for SharePoint is very valuable for the OpenOffice.org community. Is it (or can it be) part of the Oracle Grant?
>>
>> http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/sharepoint_connector
>>
>> --
>> Regards/groeten,
>> Arthur Buijs

Re: Oracle Connector for SharePoint

Posted by David Nelson <li...@traduction.biz>.
Hi,

2011/7/23 Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@googlemail.com>:
> On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 10:40 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton <
> dennis.hamilton@acm.org> wrote:
>> I'm not up for working on CMIS at this time, personally, but I think there
>> is an open-source toolkit from Alfresco that might help if it is not already
>> being used.  John Newton was very keen on encouraging CMIS adoption, of
>> course.
>>
> Alfresco provides probably one of the best or better most complete
> implementations for CMIS in their CMS and would be my first choice for a
> server backend for any kind of testing ...

FWIW, I operate an Alfresco platform for the LibreOffice project. It
is currently being used principally by the LibO English docs team. If
there was any testing of a CMIS plugin for A-OOo/LibO, you'd be very
welcome to do it there, where there's an existing, live platform and a
live pilot user population.

There has recently been a mail thread going between a couple of
leading people at Alfresco, a couple of LibO devs and the leading
admins of the LibO Alfresco platform, notably discussing a plugin to
interact with Alfresco. The conclusion was that although there is a
related dormant project on the Alfresco Forge, it would be better to
start work afresh and target a generic CMIS plugin that works with
Alfresco (and that hopefully could also work with Microsoft
Sharepoint, too). So there are at least a couple of LibO devs who
could be interested in contributing to this.

I think the main impediment to actually getting design & development
rolling is achieving a critical mass of developers to actively work on
it. I'm not a dev myself, but I'm taking every chance to agitate
towards the initiative, and will be happy to be actively involved as
well (liaison, testing, documentation, etc.).

Is there anyone else interested in actively making this project happen?

-- 
David Nelson

Re: Oracle Connector for SharePoint

Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@googlemail.com>.
On Fri, Jul 22, 2011 at 10:40 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton <
dennis.hamilton@acm.org> wrote:

> I'm not up for working on CMIS at this time, personally, but I think there
> is an open-source toolkit from Alfresco that might help if it is not already
> being used.  John Newton was very keen on encouraging CMIS adoption, of
> course.
>
Alfresco provides probably one of the best or better most complete
implementations for CMIS in their CMS and would be my first choice for a
server backend for any kind of testing ...


>
> I also agree that using the open-standards route for an adapter is a good
> idea.
>
> Although Microsoft was very prominent on the OASIS CMIS Committee, and one
> of the contributors of the initial specifications, I don't know which
> version of Sharepoint provides CMIS access nor how well-developed it is.
>  This seems like the place to start though: <
> http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff934619.aspx>.
>
> This is interesting too, <
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Content_Management_Interoperability_Services>.
>  The client-side Apache Chemistry code is in Java, but it might be useful to
> examine for design ideas.
>
> i know and it is fine, all our connectors were implemented as extensions
and in Java. I think the realization as an extension is quite perfect
because most (private) users don't need it.

Juergen


>  - Dennis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jürgen Schmidt [mailto:jogischmidt@googlemail.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 00:30
> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Oracle Connector for SharePoint
>
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 3:10 PM, David Nelson <li...@traduction.biz>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Marcus (OOo) <ma...@wtnet.de>
> > wrote:
> > > The Connector for MS SharePoint (also for Alfresco's CMS and Oracle's
> > > Universal Content Management (UCM)) wasn't part of the OOo development.
> > > It was working for OOo, too, yes, but the main point was to have it for
> > > StarOffice resp. Oracle Open Office.
> > >
> > > I don't think it will be part of the grant but of course I enjoy a good
> > > surprise. ;-)
> >
> > There has been a little discussion of a CMIS plugin for LibreOffice.
> > The conclusion was that such a project would be better off working
> > from a fresh start. Anybody interested in getting involved?
> >
> >
> i have it on my private agenda yes. I was deeply involved in both the
> Alfresco and the Sharepoint connector and a more general CMIS connector was
> in our heads already ;-) It will be probaly one of the first projects where
> we can benefit from another Apache project (Chemistry).
>
> Juergen
>
>
> > --
> > David Nelson
> >
>
>

RE: Oracle Connector for SharePoint

Posted by "Dennis E. Hamilton" <de...@acm.org>.
I'm not up for working on CMIS at this time, personally, but I think there is an open-source toolkit from Alfresco that might help if it is not already being used.  John Newton was very keen on encouraging CMIS adoption, of course.

I also agree that using the open-standards route for an adapter is a good idea.

Although Microsoft was very prominent on the OASIS CMIS Committee, and one of the contributors of the initial specifications, I don't know which version of Sharepoint provides CMIS access nor how well-developed it is.  This seems like the place to start though: <http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff934619.aspx>.

This is interesting too, <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Content_Management_Interoperability_Services>.  The client-side Apache Chemistry code is in Java, but it might be useful to examine for design ideas.

 - Dennis

-----Original Message-----
From: Jürgen Schmidt [mailto:jogischmidt@googlemail.com] 
Sent: Friday, July 22, 2011 00:30
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Oracle Connector for SharePoint

On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 3:10 PM, David Nelson <li...@traduction.biz> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Marcus (OOo) <ma...@wtnet.de>
> wrote:
> > The Connector for MS SharePoint (also for Alfresco's CMS and Oracle's
> > Universal Content Management (UCM)) wasn't part of the OOo development.
> > It was working for OOo, too, yes, but the main point was to have it for
> > StarOffice resp. Oracle Open Office.
> >
> > I don't think it will be part of the grant but of course I enjoy a good
> > surprise. ;-)
>
> There has been a little discussion of a CMIS plugin for LibreOffice.
> The conclusion was that such a project would be better off working
> from a fresh start. Anybody interested in getting involved?
>
>
i have it on my private agenda yes. I was deeply involved in both the
Alfresco and the Sharepoint connector and a more general CMIS connector was
in our heads already ;-) It will be probaly one of the first projects where
we can benefit from another Apache project (Chemistry).

Juergen


> --
> David Nelson
>


Re: Oracle Connector for SharePoint

Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@googlemail.com>.
On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 3:10 PM, David Nelson <li...@traduction.biz> wrote:

> Hi,
>
> On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Marcus (OOo) <ma...@wtnet.de>
> wrote:
> > The Connector for MS SharePoint (also for Alfresco's CMS and Oracle's
> > Universal Content Management (UCM)) wasn't part of the OOo development.
> > It was working for OOo, too, yes, but the main point was to have it for
> > StarOffice resp. Oracle Open Office.
> >
> > I don't think it will be part of the grant but of course I enjoy a good
> > surprise. ;-)
>
> There has been a little discussion of a CMIS plugin for LibreOffice.
> The conclusion was that such a project would be better off working
> from a fresh start. Anybody interested in getting involved?
>
>
i have it on my private agenda yes. I was deeply involved in both the
Alfresco and the Sharepoint connector and a more general CMIS connector was
in our heads already ;-) It will be probaly one of the first projects where
we can benefit from another Apache project (Chemistry).

Juergen


> --
> David Nelson
>

Re: Oracle Connector for SharePoint

Posted by David Nelson <li...@traduction.biz>.
Hi,

On Thu, Jul 21, 2011 at 3:58 PM, Marcus (OOo) <ma...@wtnet.de> wrote:
> The Connector for MS SharePoint (also for Alfresco's CMS and Oracle's
> Universal Content Management (UCM)) wasn't part of the OOo development.
> It was working for OOo, too, yes, but the main point was to have it for
> StarOffice resp. Oracle Open Office.
>
> I don't think it will be part of the grant but of course I enjoy a good
> surprise. ;-)

There has been a little discussion of a CMIS plugin for LibreOffice.
The conclusion was that such a project would be better off working
from a fresh start. Anybody interested in getting involved?

-- 
David Nelson

Re: Oracle Connector for SharePoint

Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
The Connector for MS SharePoint (also for Alfresco's CMS and Oracle's 
Universal Content Management (UCM)) wasn't part of the OOo development.
It was working for OOo, too, yes, but the main point was to have it for 
StarOffice resp. Oracle Open Office.

I don't think it will be part of the grant but of course I enjoy a good 
surprise. ;-)

Marcus



Am 07/21/2011 02:41 PM, schrieb Arthur Buijs:
> Hello,
>
> The Oracle Connector for SharePoint is very valuable for the OpenOffice.org community. Is it (or can it be) part of the Oracle Grant?
>
> http://extensions.services.openoffice.org/en/project/sharepoint_connector
>
> --
> Regards/groeten,
> Arthur Buijs