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Posted to user@vcl.apache.org by David DeMizio <dd...@ncf.edu> on 2014/06/16 14:38:17 UTC
office activation
Hello,
I'm wondering how folks are handling activating Microsoft office products
on VCL images. For one , The several folks that have been piloting VCL
rather not have the initials prompt box pop up every time they create a new
reservation and first start office. Secondly , Office detects that it's on
different hardware from my original image capture so it prompts for the
products to be activated again via the phone or internet. Any suggestions
on how to overcome these small nuisances . Thank you
Re: office activation
Posted by Aaron Coburn <ac...@amherst.edu>.
Yes, it requires some not insignificant code and database changes. I would not recommend it unless you have exhausted all other possibilities.
Aaron
On Jun 25, 2014, at 1:55 PM, David DeMizio <dd...@ncf.edu> wrote:
> Thank Aaron,
>
> I looked over that thread you mentioned. I'm not too clear if I need to change anything on my management node which will handle this staging of the user?
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Aaron Coburn <ac...@amherst.edu> wrote:
> David,
>
> Yes, the default profile is copied for each new user account that is created.
>
> 1 GB seems like a lot of data in the profile. If you can make that smaller, the login process will go much faster. Also, check on the I/O latency of your "VM Working Directory Path" -- you may want to consider putting that on faster disk (I recall in an earlier message that you used your local SSDs for the Virtual Disk Path and the slower disk for the running VMs -- you may want to switch that).
>
> We ended up making some changes to the backend code to eliminate the need to copy a default profile. Details are in this thread: http://vcl.markmail.org/thread/deztgovq2a433wco
>
> The upshot is that we pre-stage a user account at image creation time, and then use `wmic` to rename" that account to the relevant user rather than copying everything from the default profile.
>
> Aaron
>
>
> On Jun 25, 2014, at 11:57 AM, David DeMizio <dd...@ncf.edu> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I followed the Instructions for creating a default profile, however, now the computer takes like 10 minutes to login. I'm not sure if it's due to that but If I go to c:\users\<my username> the size is over a 1 gig, isn't it suppose to use the default profile for all users? It seems like it's copying the default profile which is taking a long time. Any suggestions?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Andy Kurth <an...@ncsu.edu> wrote:
> > Users are prompted for their initials if the Office settings don't exist in the default user profile. You can add the settings by launching all of the Office applications once when configuring a default user profile:
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/VCL/How+to+Configure+the+Windows+Default+User+Profile
> >
> > Regarding the activation, you can add a startup script which runs the activation command:
> > -Run gpedit.msc
> > -Navigate to: Computer Configuration > Windows Settings > Scripts > Startup
> > -Click "Show Files"
> > -Create a text file named something like "activate_office.cmd"
> > -Add the following line to the file and save it (the path to OSPP.VBS will vary depending on the version of Office installed in the image):
> > cscript.exe "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office14\OSPP.VBS" /act
> > -In the gpedit.msc window, click Add, browse and select your .cmd file, and save the changes
> >
> > Regards,
> > Andy
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 8:38 AM, David DeMizio <dd...@ncf.edu> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'm wondering how folks are handling activating Microsoft office products on VCL images. For one , The several folks that have been piloting VCL rather not have the initials prompt box pop up every time they create a new reservation and first start office. Secondly , Office detects that it's on different hardware from my original image capture so it prompts for the products to be activated again via the phone or internet. Any suggestions on how to overcome these small nuisances . Thank you
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
Re: office activation
Posted by David DeMizio <dd...@ncf.edu>.
also, there is this link
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/VCL/How+to+Configure+the+Windows+Default+User+Profile
and then the link I read in the thread you mentioned. I followed this
procedure based on the update date
David DeMizio
*Academic Systems Coordinator*
Office of Information Technology
New College of Florida
Phone: 941-487-4222 | Fax: 941-487-4356
www.ncf.edu
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 1:55 PM, David DeMizio <dd...@ncf.edu> wrote:
> Thank Aaron,
>
> I looked over that thread you mentioned. I'm not too clear if I need to
> change anything on my management node which will handle this staging of the
> user?
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Aaron Coburn <ac...@amherst.edu> wrote:
>
>> David,
>>
>> Yes, the default profile is copied for each new user account that is
>> created.
>>
>> 1 GB seems like a lot of data in the profile. If you can make that
>> smaller, the login process will go much faster. Also, check on the I/O
>> latency of your "VM Working Directory Path" -- you may want to consider
>> putting that on faster disk (I recall in an earlier message that you used
>> your local SSDs for the Virtual Disk Path and the slower disk for the
>> running VMs -- you may want to switch that).
>>
>> We ended up making some changes to the backend code to eliminate the need
>> to copy a default profile. Details are in this thread:
>> http://vcl.markmail.org/thread/deztgovq2a433wco
>>
>> The upshot is that we pre-stage a user account at image creation time,
>> and then use `wmic` to rename" that account to the relevant user rather
>> than copying everything from the default profile.
>>
>> Aaron
>>
>>
>> On Jun 25, 2014, at 11:57 AM, David DeMizio <dd...@ncf.edu> wrote:
>>
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I followed the Instructions for creating a default profile, however,
>> now the computer takes like 10 minutes to login. I'm not sure if it's due
>> to that but If I go to c:\users\<my username> the size is over a 1 gig,
>> isn't it suppose to use the default profile for all users? It seems like
>> it's copying the default profile which is taking a long time. Any
>> suggestions?
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Andy Kurth <an...@ncsu.edu>
>> wrote:
>> > Users are prompted for their initials if the Office settings don't
>> exist in the default user profile. You can add the settings by launching
>> all of the Office applications once when configuring a default user profile:
>> >
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/VCL/How+to+Configure+the+Windows+Default+User+Profile
>> >
>> > Regarding the activation, you can add a startup script which runs the
>> activation command:
>> > -Run gpedit.msc
>> > -Navigate to: Computer Configuration > Windows Settings > Scripts >
>> Startup
>> > -Click "Show Files"
>> > -Create a text file named something like "activate_office.cmd"
>> > -Add the following line to the file and save it (the path to OSPP.VBS
>> will vary depending on the version of Office installed in the image):
>> > cscript.exe "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office14\OSPP.VBS" /act
>> > -In the gpedit.msc window, click Add, browse and select your .cmd file,
>> and save the changes
>> >
>> > Regards,
>> > Andy
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 8:38 AM, David DeMizio <dd...@ncf.edu>
>> wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I'm wondering how folks are handling activating Microsoft office
>> products on VCL images. For one , The several folks that have been piloting
>> VCL rather not have the initials prompt box pop up every time they create a
>> new reservation and first start office. Secondly , Office detects that it's
>> on different hardware from my original image capture so it prompts for the
>> products to be activated again via the phone or internet. Any suggestions
>> on how to overcome these small nuisances . Thank you
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>>
>
Re: office activation
Posted by David DeMizio <dd...@ncf.edu>.
Thank Aaron,
I looked over that thread you mentioned. I'm not too clear if I need to
change anything on my management node which will handle this staging of the
user?
On Wed, Jun 25, 2014 at 1:10 PM, Aaron Coburn <ac...@amherst.edu> wrote:
> David,
>
> Yes, the default profile is copied for each new user account that is
> created.
>
> 1 GB seems like a lot of data in the profile. If you can make that
> smaller, the login process will go much faster. Also, check on the I/O
> latency of your "VM Working Directory Path" -- you may want to consider
> putting that on faster disk (I recall in an earlier message that you used
> your local SSDs for the Virtual Disk Path and the slower disk for the
> running VMs -- you may want to switch that).
>
> We ended up making some changes to the backend code to eliminate the need
> to copy a default profile. Details are in this thread:
> http://vcl.markmail.org/thread/deztgovq2a433wco
>
> The upshot is that we pre-stage a user account at image creation time, and
> then use `wmic` to rename" that account to the relevant user rather than
> copying everything from the default profile.
>
> Aaron
>
>
> On Jun 25, 2014, at 11:57 AM, David DeMizio <dd...@ncf.edu> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > I followed the Instructions for creating a default profile, however, now
> the computer takes like 10 minutes to login. I'm not sure if it's due to
> that but If I go to c:\users\<my username> the size is over a 1 gig, isn't
> it suppose to use the default profile for all users? It seems like it's
> copying the default profile which is taking a long time. Any suggestions?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Andy Kurth <an...@ncsu.edu>
> wrote:
> > Users are prompted for their initials if the Office settings don't exist
> in the default user profile. You can add the settings by launching all of
> the Office applications once when configuring a default user profile:
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/VCL/How+to+Configure+the+Windows+Default+User+Profile
> >
> > Regarding the activation, you can add a startup script which runs the
> activation command:
> > -Run gpedit.msc
> > -Navigate to: Computer Configuration > Windows Settings > Scripts >
> Startup
> > -Click "Show Files"
> > -Create a text file named something like "activate_office.cmd"
> > -Add the following line to the file and save it (the path to OSPP.VBS
> will vary depending on the version of Office installed in the image):
> > cscript.exe "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office14\OSPP.VBS" /act
> > -In the gpedit.msc window, click Add, browse and select your .cmd file,
> and save the changes
> >
> > Regards,
> > Andy
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 8:38 AM, David DeMizio <dd...@ncf.edu> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I'm wondering how folks are handling activating Microsoft office
> products on VCL images. For one , The several folks that have been piloting
> VCL rather not have the initials prompt box pop up every time they create a
> new reservation and first start office. Secondly , Office detects that it's
> on different hardware from my original image capture so it prompts for the
> products to be activated again via the phone or internet. Any suggestions
> on how to overcome these small nuisances . Thank you
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
Re: office activation
Posted by Aaron Coburn <ac...@amherst.edu>.
David,
Yes, the default profile is copied for each new user account that is created.
1 GB seems like a lot of data in the profile. If you can make that smaller, the login process will go much faster. Also, check on the I/O latency of your "VM Working Directory Path" -- you may want to consider putting that on faster disk (I recall in an earlier message that you used your local SSDs for the Virtual Disk Path and the slower disk for the running VMs -- you may want to switch that).
We ended up making some changes to the backend code to eliminate the need to copy a default profile. Details are in this thread: http://vcl.markmail.org/thread/deztgovq2a433wco
The upshot is that we pre-stage a user account at image creation time, and then use `wmic` to rename" that account to the relevant user rather than copying everything from the default profile.
Aaron
On Jun 25, 2014, at 11:57 AM, David DeMizio <dd...@ncf.edu> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I followed the Instructions for creating a default profile, however, now the computer takes like 10 minutes to login. I'm not sure if it's due to that but If I go to c:\users\<my username> the size is over a 1 gig, isn't it suppose to use the default profile for all users? It seems like it's copying the default profile which is taking a long time. Any suggestions?
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Andy Kurth <an...@ncsu.edu> wrote:
> Users are prompted for their initials if the Office settings don't exist in the default user profile. You can add the settings by launching all of the Office applications once when configuring a default user profile:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/VCL/How+to+Configure+the+Windows+Default+User+Profile
>
> Regarding the activation, you can add a startup script which runs the activation command:
> -Run gpedit.msc
> -Navigate to: Computer Configuration > Windows Settings > Scripts > Startup
> -Click "Show Files"
> -Create a text file named something like "activate_office.cmd"
> -Add the following line to the file and save it (the path to OSPP.VBS will vary depending on the version of Office installed in the image):
> cscript.exe "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office14\OSPP.VBS" /act
> -In the gpedit.msc window, click Add, browse and select your .cmd file, and save the changes
>
> Regards,
> Andy
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 8:38 AM, David DeMizio <dd...@ncf.edu> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm wondering how folks are handling activating Microsoft office products on VCL images. For one , The several folks that have been piloting VCL rather not have the initials prompt box pop up every time they create a new reservation and first start office. Secondly , Office detects that it's on different hardware from my original image capture so it prompts for the products to be activated again via the phone or internet. Any suggestions on how to overcome these small nuisances . Thank you
>
>
>
>
Re: office activation
Posted by David DeMizio <dd...@ncf.edu>.
Hello,
I followed the Instructions for creating a default profile, however, now
the computer takes like 10 minutes to login. I'm not sure if it's due to
that but If I go to c:\users\<my username> the size is over a 1 gig, isn't
it suppose to use the default profile for all users? It seems like it's
copying the default profile which is taking a long time. Any suggestions?
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Andy Kurth <an...@ncsu.edu> wrote:
> Users are prompted for their initials if the Office settings don't exist
> in the default user profile. You can add the settings by launching all of
> the Office applications once when configuring a default user profile:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/VCL/How+to+Configure+the+Windows+Default+User+Profile
>
> Regarding the activation, you can add a startup script which runs the
> activation command:
> -Run gpedit.msc
> -Navigate to: Computer Configuration > Windows Settings > Scripts > Startup
> -Click "Show Files"
> -Create a text file named something like "activate_office.cmd"
> -Add the following line to the file and save it (the path to OSPP.VBS will
> vary depending on the version of Office installed in the image):
> cscript.exe "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office14\OSPP.VBS" /act
> -In the gpedit.msc window, click Add, browse and select your .cmd file,
> and save the changes
>
> Regards,
> Andy
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 8:38 AM, David DeMizio <dd...@ncf.edu> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm wondering how folks are handling activating Microsoft office products
>> on VCL images. For one , The several folks that have been piloting VCL
>> rather not have the initials prompt box pop up every time they create a new
>> reservation and first start office. Secondly , Office detects that it's on
>> different hardware from my original image capture so it prompts for the
>> products to be activated again via the phone or internet. Any suggestions
>> on how to overcome these small nuisances . Thank you
>>
>>
>>
>
Re: office activation
Posted by David DeMizio <dd...@ncf.edu>.
Thank you Andy, I will give it a go.
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 10:00 AM, Andy Kurth <an...@ncsu.edu> wrote:
> Users are prompted for their initials if the Office settings don't exist
> in the default user profile. You can add the settings by launching all of
> the Office applications once when configuring a default user profile:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/VCL/How+to+Configure+the+Windows+Default+User+Profile
>
> Regarding the activation, you can add a startup script which runs the
> activation command:
> -Run gpedit.msc
> -Navigate to: Computer Configuration > Windows Settings > Scripts > Startup
> -Click "Show Files"
> -Create a text file named something like "activate_office.cmd"
> -Add the following line to the file and save it (the path to OSPP.VBS will
> vary depending on the version of Office installed in the image):
> cscript.exe "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office14\OSPP.VBS" /act
> -In the gpedit.msc window, click Add, browse and select your .cmd file,
> and save the changes
>
> Regards,
> Andy
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 8:38 AM, David DeMizio <dd...@ncf.edu> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm wondering how folks are handling activating Microsoft office products
>> on VCL images. For one , The several folks that have been piloting VCL
>> rather not have the initials prompt box pop up every time they create a new
>> reservation and first start office. Secondly , Office detects that it's on
>> different hardware from my original image capture so it prompts for the
>> products to be activated again via the phone or internet. Any suggestions
>> on how to overcome these small nuisances . Thank you
>>
>>
>>
>
Re: office activation
Posted by Andy Kurth <an...@ncsu.edu>.
Users are prompted for their initials if the Office settings don't exist in
the default user profile. You can add the settings by launching all of the
Office applications once when configuring a default user profile:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/VCL/How+to+Configure+the+Windows+Default+User+Profile
Regarding the activation, you can add a startup script which runs the
activation command:
-Run gpedit.msc
-Navigate to: Computer Configuration > Windows Settings > Scripts > Startup
-Click "Show Files"
-Create a text file named something like "activate_office.cmd"
-Add the following line to the file and save it (the path to OSPP.VBS will
vary depending on the version of Office installed in the image):
cscript.exe "C:\Program Files\Microsoft Office\Office14\OSPP.VBS" /act
-In the gpedit.msc window, click Add, browse and select your .cmd file, and
save the changes
Regards,
Andy
On Mon, Jun 16, 2014 at 8:38 AM, David DeMizio <dd...@ncf.edu> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm wondering how folks are handling activating Microsoft office products
> on VCL images. For one , The several folks that have been piloting VCL
> rather not have the initials prompt box pop up every time they create a new
> reservation and first start office. Secondly , Office detects that it's on
> different hardware from my original image capture so it prompts for the
> products to be activated again via the phone or internet. Any suggestions
> on how to overcome these small nuisances . Thank you
>
>
>