You are viewing a plain text version of this content. The canonical link for it is here.
Posted to dev@qpid.apache.org by Steve Huston <sh...@riverace.com> on 2009/01/31 00:27:42 UTC
Cruise Control results?
I'm looking at making my Windows build results more readily available
and am looking for more info on Cruise Control. I have been reading
the cruise control website, but am still looking for basic
capabilities answers. Is this something that houses results in some
central place everyone can see (ala the ACE scoreboard
(http://acebuilds.riverace.com/scoreboard/)? Is it possible to
contribute results into this?
Thanks,
-Steve
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Apache Qpid - AMQP Messaging Implementation
Project: http://qpid.apache.org
Use/Interact: mailto:dev-subscribe@qpid.apache.org
Re: Cruise Control results?
Posted by Marnie McCormack <ma...@googlemail.com>.
All sounds good - aside from automatic posting (hold your fire!!).
If you are anything like us, you wouldn't do that lightly. We run lots of
builds and get quite a few failures which need eyeballed so to speak before
list posting. I doubt you'd all want to be recipients of all of our
infiltered stuff !!
I reckon I'd ask that any automated posting have the output monitored for a
month before it came to the list. The biggest issue we have (by far) is
intermittant race conditions which create noise and are really tricky to
resolve. You would not love me for the contents of my build email folder.
Just my tuppence,
Marnie
On Sun, Feb 1, 2009 at 2:14 AM, Carl Trieloff <cc...@redhat.com> wrote:
>
> That would be great... there are a set of cruise control scripts checked in
> (from Arnaud), however
> someone here (jross) created a build env called ptolomy (ptol). Cruise
> control is hard to manage when you
> want to build a bunch of environment, so he built a distributed build
> system on top qpid so it can
> run on any platform, and build & test all the languages with it (C++, Java,
> Ruby, Python,
> TCK, specs, etc..) on a farm of machines. IT reports all results back to
> any machine.
>
> If you want to use/try it, I can point you to it. We could also expose the
> build data we have it that
> will help others. I may also be able to get our farm of builds results
> posted somewhere.
>
> Personally I would be fine for anyone that has a well managed build server
> to post any failures to
> the commits list in an automated way, As long as it does not post false
> failures.
>
> Carl.
>
>
>
> Steve Huston wrote:
>
>> I'm looking at making my Windows build results more readily available
>> and am looking for more info on Cruise Control. I have been reading
>> the cruise control website, but am still looking for basic
>> capabilities answers. Is this something that houses results in some
>> central place everyone can see (ala the ACE scoreboard
>> (http://acebuilds.riverace.com/scoreboard/)? Is it possible to
>> contribute results into this?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Steve
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> Apache Qpid - AMQP Messaging Implementation
>> Project: http://qpid.apache.org
>> Use/Interact: mailto:dev-subscribe@qpid.apache.org
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> Apache Qpid - AMQP Messaging Implementation
> Project: http://qpid.apache.org
> Use/Interact: mailto:dev-subscribe@qpid.apache.org
>
>
Re: Cruise Control results?
Posted by Carl Trieloff <cc...@redhat.com>.
That would be great... there are a set of cruise control scripts checked
in (from Arnaud), however
someone here (jross) created a build env called ptolomy (ptol). Cruise
control is hard to manage when you
want to build a bunch of environment, so he built a distributed build
system on top qpid so it can
run on any platform, and build & test all the languages with it (C++,
Java, Ruby, Python,
TCK, specs, etc..) on a farm of machines. IT reports all results back to
any machine.
If you want to use/try it, I can point you to it. We could also expose
the build data we have it that
will help others. I may also be able to get our farm of builds results
posted somewhere.
Personally I would be fine for anyone that has a well managed build
server to post any failures to
the commits list in an automated way, As long as it does not post false
failures.
Carl.
Steve Huston wrote:
> I'm looking at making my Windows build results more readily available
> and am looking for more info on Cruise Control. I have been reading
> the cruise control website, but am still looking for basic
> capabilities answers. Is this something that houses results in some
> central place everyone can see (ala the ACE scoreboard
> (http://acebuilds.riverace.com/scoreboard/)? Is it possible to
> contribute results into this?
>
> Thanks,
> -Steve
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> Apache Qpid - AMQP Messaging Implementation
> Project: http://qpid.apache.org
> Use/Interact: mailto:dev-subscribe@qpid.apache.org
>
>
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Apache Qpid - AMQP Messaging Implementation
Project: http://qpid.apache.org
Use/Interact: mailto:dev-subscribe@qpid.apache.org
RE: Cruise Control results?[MESSAGE NOT SCANNED]
Posted by Robbie Gemmell <ge...@dcs.gla.ac.uk>.
CruiseControl is a Continuous Integration tool, it schedules/runs based on
changes/etc 'builds/projects' which are basically just a configuration you
give it to do a job or bunch of jobs....be it run a build, a test, basically
do whatever you like. You can tie in to various build tools like Ant or
Maven directly, or if you have something that runs from the command line you
can just have it run that directly, or run a shell script, or....basically
anything that can be scripted in some fashion or another can be run.
It then reports success/failure based on the outcome of that project
definition, eg if you had it run an Ant process and that failed explicitly
it will tie in to that result outcome and report a failure of the
'build/project', or if a shell script exited with an error code etc. As long
as there is some definition of failure that can be checked then it can
report that in some fashion. If that Ant/Maven/whatever task involved
running JUnit tests for example, you can tell it where the results of the
tests are put and it will pull them into its log file and give you an
overview of all the individual results, alternatively just anything xml can
be merged in. It can publish build artifacts by various means, email results
etc, and you can use its web dashboard and look at past results, inspect the
log outputs, force new builds etc.
It runs on a given machine and only reports results from that machines
configured projects and their executions. You can set it up in a 'grid' to
have results of multiple instances reported back to a single instance, but I
believe that needs shared file system access.
It isn't just a results store though, so you cant just post results into
another instance. What you could do would be to set up a project in that
instance which monitored something else for change, (eg a file or folder in
a repository) and figure out some way to have it analyse that and report
results, declare success/failure etc.
Im not sure how you would tie it in to do the C++ windows builds directly as
I have absolutely no clue about the windows build process hehe, but the
linux one is easy. Have a look in the qpid/cc dir for the various in-tree CC
projects.
Slight note, things may have changed with CC so things above might be
inaccurate in some way, its been 5 months since I did anything with it hehe.
Robbie
-----Original Message-----
From: Steve Huston [mailto:shuston@riverace.com]
Sent: 30 January 2009 23:28
To: dev@qpid.apache.org
Subject: Cruise Control results?[MESSAGE NOT SCANNED]
I'm looking at making my Windows build results more readily available
and am looking for more info on Cruise Control. I have been reading
the cruise control website, but am still looking for basic
capabilities answers. Is this something that houses results in some
central place everyone can see (ala the ACE scoreboard
(http://acebuilds.riverace.com/scoreboard/)? Is it possible to
contribute results into this?
Thanks,
-Steve
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Apache Qpid - AMQP Messaging Implementation
Project: http://qpid.apache.org
Use/Interact: mailto:dev-subscribe@qpid.apache.org
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Apache Qpid - AMQP Messaging Implementation
Project: http://qpid.apache.org
Use/Interact: mailto:dev-subscribe@qpid.apache.org
RE: Cruise Control results?
Posted by Robbie Gemmell <ge...@dcs.gla.ac.uk>.
Oops...I read Steve's email just before going to sleep and forgot about it
before going out after I got up :)
I didn't post the setup you are running (a bit of its perhaps not apache
friendly for one thing, though it isn't necessary and could be rectified
easily enough), its quite different to the CC setup in the repository. From
what I can remember, whats there is probably more appropriate for most
peoples needs anyway in that it runs in-tree, doesn't need a bunch of things
set up, and isnt hammering away all day everyday hehe.
I'll reply to Steves email separately.
-----Original Message-----
From: Marnie McCormack [mailto:marnie.mccormack@googlemail.com]
Sent: 31 January 2009 22:33
To: dev@qpid.apache.org
Subject: Re: Cruise Control results?[MESSAGE NOT SCANNED]
Hi Steve,
Robbie Gemmell is a centre of know-how on cc, so hopefully he'll reply too !
We (Qpid) don't have a central build running on Apache infra. However, I
have a couple of builds machines running cc, and post any issues arising to
the list. I think others have a similar setup.
The dashboard for cc is pretty straightforward, though (like all ci tools) I
find the hardest bit is figuring out which faillures are spurious and which
are real/reproducible. This is definitely art :-)
We find cc pretty reliable and I *think* Robbie gave the patches to Apache
for the setup we run.
Robbie - be great if you'd chip in for Steve on this stuff ?
Bfn,
Marnie
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 11:27 PM, Steve Huston <sh...@riverace.com> wrote:
> I'm looking at making my Windows build results more readily available
> and am looking for more info on Cruise Control. I have been reading
> the cruise control website, but am still looking for basic
> capabilities answers. Is this something that houses results in some
> central place everyone can see (ala the ACE scoreboard
> (http://acebuilds.riverace.com/scoreboard/)? Is it possible to
> contribute results into this?
>
> Thanks,
> -Steve
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> Apache Qpid - AMQP Messaging Implementation
> Project: http://qpid.apache.org
> Use/Interact: mailto:dev-subscribe@qpid.apache.org
>
>
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Apache Qpid - AMQP Messaging Implementation
Project: http://qpid.apache.org
Use/Interact: mailto:dev-subscribe@qpid.apache.org
Re: Cruise Control results?
Posted by Marnie McCormack <ma...@googlemail.com>.
Hi Steve,
Robbie Gemmell is a centre of know-how on cc, so hopefully he'll reply too !
We (Qpid) don't have a central build running on Apache infra. However, I
have a couple of builds machines running cc, and post any issues arising to
the list. I think others have a similar setup.
The dashboard for cc is pretty straightforward, though (like all ci tools) I
find the hardest bit is figuring out which faillures are spurious and which
are real/reproducible. This is definitely art :-)
We find cc pretty reliable and I *think* Robbie gave the patches to Apache
for the setup we run.
Robbie - be great if you'd chip in for Steve on this stuff ?
Bfn,
Marnie
On Fri, Jan 30, 2009 at 11:27 PM, Steve Huston <sh...@riverace.com> wrote:
> I'm looking at making my Windows build results more readily available
> and am looking for more info on Cruise Control. I have been reading
> the cruise control website, but am still looking for basic
> capabilities answers. Is this something that houses results in some
> central place everyone can see (ala the ACE scoreboard
> (http://acebuilds.riverace.com/scoreboard/)? Is it possible to
> contribute results into this?
>
> Thanks,
> -Steve
>
>
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> Apache Qpid - AMQP Messaging Implementation
> Project: http://qpid.apache.org
> Use/Interact: mailto:dev-subscribe@qpid.apache.org
>
>