[Issue 128492] New: Buggy Index generator

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          Issue ID: 128492
        Issue Type: DEFECT
           Summary: Buggy Index generator
           Product: Writer
           Version: 4.1.11
          Hardware: All
                OS: Windows 10
            Status: UNCONFIRMED
          Severity: Normal
          Priority: P5 (lowest)
         Component: code
          Assignee: issues@openoffice.apache.org
          Reporter: lpfeffer@gmail.com
  Target Milestone: ---

Generated Index is inconsistent and some of it makes no sense.
There seem to be two underlying problems:

1. OO Writer seems to mark index terms inside the document to be indexed. Even
after terms are removed from the concordance file past index terms appear in
the Index. In addition the new version of OO does not even show places where a
document has been marked. SUGGESTIONS: (A) if marking is necessary it should be
done in a temporary document with a known name to be created each time the
Index is rebuilt. (B) there should be an option in the Index definition panel
to clear any markings in a document should it have been marked in the past.

2. automatically inserted hyphenation marks should be ignored for purpose of
indexing. Thus COMPUTER COM-PUTER COM-PU-TER should all be considered as
COMPUTER. There should also be an option to remove all optional hyphenation
markers.

The above issues were noted in the past.

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--- Comment #7 from Larry <lp...@gmail.com> ---
Sent ZIP file containing:

Sample .odf file
Concordance file
Screen shots

ISSUES:

1. How to remove gray from ALL terms marked by gray (which is set by indexer)
with a single command or macro?

2. corporation twice in Index, once hyphenated

3. hyphenated only appears once although once it has hyphen

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--- Comment #1 from Larry <lp...@gmail.com> ---
PS. After posting the above saw that gray background marked terms can be made
visible by view > Field Shadings

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oooforum (fr) <oo...@free.fr> changed:

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--- Comment #5 from oooforum (fr) <oo...@free.fr> ---
Save our time and provide:
- a sample document
- two screenshot with noted and expected result
- a step-by-step explanation to reproducing

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--- Comment #2 from Peter <pe...@apache.org> ---
What kind of Index did you try?

About:
"OO Writer seems to mark index terms inside the document to be indexed. Even
after terms are removed from the concordance file past index terms appear in
the Index."

If you look into the Navigator in the sidepane, there should be an option
Index. If you open the point, you get a list of all indexes. You can Click on
the Index in question and in the menue select Index -> Update. In this moment
OpenOffice will update all displayed indexes.
You can also Click the Outdated Index.


About:
"In addition the new version of OO does not even show places where a document
has been marked. "

As you noted yourself, it depends on your Options.

About:
"(B) there should be an option in the Index definition panel to clear any
markings in a document should it have been marked in the past"
You mean remove the Index? You can do that with right click, Index -> remove.

About:
"2. automatically inserted hyphenation marks should be ignored for purpose of
indexing. Thus COMPUTER COM-PUTER COM-PU-TER should all be considered as
COMPUTER. There should also be an option to remove all optional hyphenation
markers."
Indeed this is not recognized. Starting Point for a Dev would be the break
iterator I guess. Check [1]

[1] https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Writer/Text_Formatting

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--- Comment #6 from Larry <lp...@gmail.com> ---
Created attachment 87073
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Shows the issues

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Peter <pe...@apache.org> changed:

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--- Comment #3 from Peter <pe...@apache.org> ---
The Hyphen identification is covered in -> 23541
In kind one could argue 40930 is similar. But not the same since it is About
word boundaries. So maybe if we add hyphens we could also give an option to
define other none boundary breaking characters.


Referenced Issues:

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=23541
[Issue 23541] Index from concordance file to ignore optional hyphens in doc
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Referenced Issues:

https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=40930
[Issue 40930] Customizing non-breaking characters
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--- Comment #4 from Larry <lp...@gmail.com> ---
“If you look into the Navigator in the sidepane, there should be an option
Index. If you open the point, you get a list of all indexes. You can Click on
the Index in question and in the menue select Index -> Update. In this moment
OpenOffice will update all displayed indexes.
You can also Click the Outdated Index.”
Updating the Index, even if the Index parameters are edited, retains all the
old “marked” (gray background terns etc). And the errors recur. 

MY RESPONSE:

(The indexer “marks” up the document based on the Concordance file and even if
some terms in the file are later dropped and the Index is updated the markings
are retained in the document and the obsolete terms etc still appear in the
updated Index.

The best and maybe only solution seems to be an option to clear all marked text
somehow, which should be simple to implement.
***


"(B) there should be an option in the Index definition panel to clear any
markings in a document should it have been marked in the past"
You mean remove the Index? You can do that with right click, Index -> remove. 

MY RESPONSE:

Removing the Index leaves the document marked up. That is the source of the
problem.
An option is needed to remove all markings.

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