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Posted to users@httpd.apache.org by "georg.chambert@telia.com" <ge...@telia.com> on 2018/10/31 10:26:32 UTC
[users@httpd] invisible server
Hi !
I have run my apache server for several years (yeah I know I should take time to upgrade to later version, anyways)
I have hade an (slow) ADSL connectivity to swedish operator Telia, using an Zyxtel modem, however that was burn by lightning so
have now shifted to the telia supplied Technicolor router/modem; however, then the server is no longer visible to the network !
which is a bit annoying
on one of the ethernet ports of the Technicolor, I have a CAT cable to a router/bridge (small cisco) to which in turn both my laptop
and the PC running Apache are connected.
Now the laptop has connectivity as to outgoing trafic (normal browsing), as has the PC (using browser on it)
the laptop has assigned IP 192.168.1.1 and the PC/server 192.168.1.214
AND I can access the server from my laptop, which clearly indicates that there is a network connectivity locally, guessingly
(here Ive tried to get info, but Telia support is a total NOGO, three calls and all the operators are in the same but various confusion levels)
the technicolor creates a network on the "inside" with locally know IPaddrs, which are no longer published to the outside, which they
were (guess the DHCP serving was then done upstream, and not in the Zyxtel, which then had no routing ?)
If anyone understands what Im saying ;) and has some solution I would be greatful, possibly I have to get another modem ?
tnx /georg
Re: [users@httpd] invisible server
Posted by georg chambert <ge...@telia.com>.
No actually those fields are for the "UPnP" which too me is strange language, otherwise, as you say, the fields
mach what should be expected from a port mapping. (possibly the GUI designer at technicolor wasnt sober :(
well it confused me a bit at least.
so now, I will check if ive turned off the DHCP, that could actually be the case...... (memory is not my strong suit)
tnx be back
----- Original Message -----
From: Jonathon Koyle
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2018 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] invisible server
Also, UPnP isn't something you should need... From your earlier message, you listed the needed fields, have you found a different page with different fields?
On Sun, Nov 11, 2018, 11:23 Jonathon Koyle <litereader@gmail.com wrote:
Turn DHCP back on, then you will have an IP address to which you can forward traffic.
On Sun, Nov 11, 2018, 09:02 georg chambert <georg.chambert@telia.com wrote:
Hi again,
back to the drawing board and this trouble telia router,
It seems that the telia router (connecting to ext network) does not serv my
server with an IP address
the setup in the router wants me to fill in the ipv4 address that it should
have DHCP served my server with.....
when Im in the WAN advanced menu Im trying to fill in the UPnP variant for
port forwarding (whatever UPnP stands
for and what it does in this context....), but guess that im not to fill in
for DynDNS.
( the record for forwarding though has the ETHERNET address !! which I think
should suffice more than enough but not)
so still stuck, but possibly on a higher "understanding" level
----- Original Message -----
From: "Freek de Kruijf" <f....@gmail.com>
To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] invisible server
> Op woensdag 31 oktober 2018 12:48:42 CET schreef georg.chambert@telia.com:
>> Hi again, didnt work to turn DHCP off, just rendered the PC/server
>> without
>> IP address (ie not even the local net)
>
> Right.
>
>> looking at WAN services, I get the following fields to fill (for "+ Add
>> new
>> IPv4 port mapping" ):
>>
>> IPv4 Port forwarding table
>>
>> Name Protocol WAN port LAN port Destination IP Destination
> MAC
>>
>>
>>
>> so the "Destination" in this, would that actually be the PC/server IP
>> (which
>> I then guess I have to set manually in the PC )
>
> Your PC/Server normally gets the same IP address from DHCP when it
> restarts,
> so you can use that address as Destination.
> For a web server you need to forward the external port 80 to the internal
> port
> 80 of your PC/Server. In case you use https you also need to forward 433
> to
> 433.
>
> --
> fr.gr.
>
> Freek de Kruijf
>
>
>
>
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Re: [users@httpd] invisible server
Posted by "georg.chambert@telia.com" <ge...@telia.com>.
HI , yes that should be so, in todays computing nothing really is what it should,
at least for me, I wanted eth0, but there seem to be an em1, but i cant find a script for it (under network-scripts or under networking/devices)......
well I found something called NMCLI (of cause the issue must be simplified instead of clearly documented.. no edit docs...) that WORKED (hurray)
where i could do "NMCLI dev" to get a list were em1 was disconnected .....(but NMCLI didnt work as dockumented on what i found on the net)
(well the i/f has worked before my switch to technicolor.... so why now disconnected, possibly I have touched something)
also i could not find any file at all under /etc/sysconfigs/networking/devices empty.... (would have expected the file you mention, but for elsewhere, like)
and i found some ifup-eth (under network-scripts) but the script wouldnt take ( running it by ./ifup-eth em1 )
well then i found the GUI based Network Manager APP on fedora, so open that, and all for "automatic" IP4 allocation seemed ok (! while not working)
so I thought Id try "manual" instead, and set up the modem/router-techicolor to a fixed IP4, and made the portmapping according, fine, that took
since I now had an IP address.......
then I enter the IP address in the fedora-app; well all fine, until i should save the config; only the cancel option lit up, no matter what....
tried all doors, all leading nowhere....
tnx for support
/georg
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Ämne : Re: [users@httpd] invisible server
The file /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/{interface-name} might look something like:
DEVICE={interface-name}
BOOTPROTO=dhcp
ONBOOT=yes
If it already looks like that, run
sudo sysctl restart network
And then check if config again.
On Sun, Nov 11, 2018, 12:11 georg chambert <
georg.chambert@telia.com wrote:
ok, checked, the "technicolor" telia modem/router has a "local network" tag under which DHPC server is set to ON,
but no IPv4 given to my server (a fedora with the apache), as seen through ifconfig
(my linux is not very strong; what would be command to check fedoras DHCP activities...)
/georg
----- Original Message -----
From:
Jonathon Koyle
To:
users@httpd.apache.org
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2018 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] invisible server
Also, UPnP isn't something you should need... From your earlier message, you listed the needed fields, have you found a different page with different fields?
On Sun, Nov 11, 2018, 11:23 Jonathon Koyle <
litereader@gmail.com wrote:
Turn DHCP back on, then you will have an IP address to which you can forward traffic.
On Sun, Nov 11, 2018, 09:02 georg chambert <
georg.chambert@telia.com wrote:
Hi again,
back to the drawing board and this trouble telia router,
It seems that the telia router (connecting to ext network) does not serv my
server with an IP address
the setup in the router wants me to fill in the ipv4 address that it should
have DHCP served my server with.....
when Im in the WAN advanced menu Im trying to fill in the UPnP variant for
port forwarding (whatever UPnP stands
for and what it does in this context....), but guess that im not to fill in
for DynDNS.
( the record for forwarding though has the ETHERNET address !! which I think
should suffice more than enough but not)
so still stuck, but possibly on a higher "understanding" level
----- Original Message -----
From: "Freek de Kruijf" <
f.de.kruijf@gmail.com>
To: <
users@httpd.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] invisible server
> Op woensdag 31 oktober 2018 12:48:42 CET schreef
georg.chambert@telia.com:
>> Hi again, didnt work to turn DHCP off, just rendered the PC/server
>> without
>> IP address (ie not even the local net)
>
> Right.
>
>> looking at WAN services, I get the following fields to fill (for "+ Add
>> new
>> IPv4 port mapping" ):
>>
>> IPv4 Port forwarding table
>>
>> Name Protocol WAN port LAN port Destination IP Destination
> MAC
>>
>>
>>
>> so the "Destination" in this, would that actually be the PC/server IP
>> (which
>> I then guess I have to set manually in the PC )
>
> Your PC/Server normally gets the same IP address from DHCP when it
> restarts,
> so you can use that address as Destination.
> For a web server you need to forward the external port 80 to the internal
> port
> 80 of your PC/Server. In case you use https you also need to forward 433
> to
> 433.
>
> --
>
fr.gr.
>
> Freek de Kruijf
>
>
>
>
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Re: [users@httpd] invisible server
Posted by Jonathon Koyle <li...@gmail.com>.
The file /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/{interface-name} might look
something like:
DEVICE={interface-name}
BOOTPROTO=dhcp
ONBOOT=yes
If it already looks like that, run
sudo sysctl restart network
And then check if config again.
On Sun, Nov 11, 2018, 12:11 georg chambert <georg.chambert@telia.com wrote:
> ok, checked, the "technicolor" telia modem/router has a "local network"
> tag under which DHPC server is set to ON,
> but no IPv4 given to my server (a fedora with the apache), as seen through
> ifconfig
> (my linux is not very strong; what would be command to check fedoras DHCP
> activities...)
>
> /georg
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Jonathon Koyle <li...@gmail.com>
> *To:* users@httpd.apache.org
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 11, 2018 7:25 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [users@httpd] invisible server
>
> Also, UPnP isn't something you should need... From your earlier message,
> you listed the needed fields, have you found a different page with
> different fields?
>
> On Sun, Nov 11, 2018, 11:23 Jonathon Koyle <litereader@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Turn DHCP back on, then you will have an IP address to which you can
>> forward traffic.
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 11, 2018, 09:02 georg chambert <georg.chambert@telia.com
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi again,
>>> back to the drawing board and this trouble telia router,
>>>
>>> It seems that the telia router (connecting to ext network) does not serv
>>> my
>>> server with an IP address
>>> the setup in the router wants me to fill in the ipv4 address that it
>>> should
>>> have DHCP served my server with.....
>>>
>>> when Im in the WAN advanced menu Im trying to fill in the UPnP variant
>>> for
>>> port forwarding (whatever UPnP stands
>>> for and what it does in this context....), but guess that im not to fill
>>> in
>>> for DynDNS.
>>> ( the record for forwarding though has the ETHERNET address !! which I
>>> think
>>> should suffice more than enough but not)
>>>
>>> so still stuck, but possibly on a higher "understanding" level
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Freek de Kruijf" <f....@gmail.com>
>>> To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 2:37 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [users@httpd] invisible server
>>>
>>>
>>> > Op woensdag 31 oktober 2018 12:48:42 CET schreef
>>> georg.chambert@telia.com:
>>> >> Hi again, didnt work to turn DHCP off, just rendered the PC/server
>>> >> without
>>> >> IP address (ie not even the local net)
>>> >
>>> > Right.
>>> >
>>> >> looking at WAN services, I get the following fields to fill (for "+
>>> Add
>>> >> new
>>> >> IPv4 port mapping" ):
>>> >>
>>> >> IPv4 Port forwarding table
>>> >>
>>> >> Name Protocol WAN port LAN port Destination IP Destination
>>> > MAC
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> so the "Destination" in this, would that actually be the PC/server IP
>>> >> (which
>>> >> I then guess I have to set manually in the PC )
>>> >
>>> > Your PC/Server normally gets the same IP address from DHCP when it
>>> > restarts,
>>> > so you can use that address as Destination.
>>> > For a web server you need to forward the external port 80 to the
>>> internal
>>> > port
>>> > 80 of your PC/Server. In case you use https you also need to forward
>>> 433
>>> > to
>>> > 433.
>>> >
>>> > --
>>> > fr.gr.
>>> >
>>> > Freek de Kruijf
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
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Re: [users@httpd] invisible server
Posted by georg chambert <ge...@telia.com>.
ok, checked, the "technicolor" telia modem/router has a "local network" tag under which DHPC server is set to ON,
but no IPv4 given to my server (a fedora with the apache), as seen through ifconfig
(my linux is not very strong; what would be command to check fedoras DHCP activities...)
/georg
----- Original Message -----
From: Jonathon Koyle
To: users@httpd.apache.org
Sent: Sunday, November 11, 2018 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] invisible server
Also, UPnP isn't something you should need... From your earlier message, you listed the needed fields, have you found a different page with different fields?
On Sun, Nov 11, 2018, 11:23 Jonathon Koyle <litereader@gmail.com wrote:
Turn DHCP back on, then you will have an IP address to which you can forward traffic.
On Sun, Nov 11, 2018, 09:02 georg chambert <georg.chambert@telia.com wrote:
Hi again,
back to the drawing board and this trouble telia router,
It seems that the telia router (connecting to ext network) does not serv my
server with an IP address
the setup in the router wants me to fill in the ipv4 address that it should
have DHCP served my server with.....
when Im in the WAN advanced menu Im trying to fill in the UPnP variant for
port forwarding (whatever UPnP stands
for and what it does in this context....), but guess that im not to fill in
for DynDNS.
( the record for forwarding though has the ETHERNET address !! which I think
should suffice more than enough but not)
so still stuck, but possibly on a higher "understanding" level
----- Original Message -----
From: "Freek de Kruijf" <f....@gmail.com>
To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] invisible server
> Op woensdag 31 oktober 2018 12:48:42 CET schreef georg.chambert@telia.com:
>> Hi again, didnt work to turn DHCP off, just rendered the PC/server
>> without
>> IP address (ie not even the local net)
>
> Right.
>
>> looking at WAN services, I get the following fields to fill (for "+ Add
>> new
>> IPv4 port mapping" ):
>>
>> IPv4 Port forwarding table
>>
>> Name Protocol WAN port LAN port Destination IP Destination
> MAC
>>
>>
>>
>> so the "Destination" in this, would that actually be the PC/server IP
>> (which
>> I then guess I have to set manually in the PC )
>
> Your PC/Server normally gets the same IP address from DHCP when it
> restarts,
> so you can use that address as Destination.
> For a web server you need to forward the external port 80 to the internal
> port
> 80 of your PC/Server. In case you use https you also need to forward 433
> to
> 433.
>
> --
> fr.gr.
>
> Freek de Kruijf
>
>
>
>
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Re: [users@httpd] invisible server
Posted by Jonathon Koyle <li...@gmail.com>.
Also, UPnP isn't something you should need... From your earlier message,
you listed the needed fields, have you found a different page with
different fields?
On Sun, Nov 11, 2018, 11:23 Jonathon Koyle <litereader@gmail.com wrote:
> Turn DHCP back on, then you will have an IP address to which you can
> forward traffic.
>
> On Sun, Nov 11, 2018, 09:02 georg chambert <georg.chambert@telia.com
> wrote:
>
>> Hi again,
>> back to the drawing board and this trouble telia router,
>>
>> It seems that the telia router (connecting to ext network) does not serv
>> my
>> server with an IP address
>> the setup in the router wants me to fill in the ipv4 address that it
>> should
>> have DHCP served my server with.....
>>
>> when Im in the WAN advanced menu Im trying to fill in the UPnP variant
>> for
>> port forwarding (whatever UPnP stands
>> for and what it does in this context....), but guess that im not to fill
>> in
>> for DynDNS.
>> ( the record for forwarding though has the ETHERNET address !! which I
>> think
>> should suffice more than enough but not)
>>
>> so still stuck, but possibly on a higher "understanding" level
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Freek de Kruijf" <f....@gmail.com>
>> To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
>> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 2:37 PM
>> Subject: Re: [users@httpd] invisible server
>>
>>
>> > Op woensdag 31 oktober 2018 12:48:42 CET schreef
>> georg.chambert@telia.com:
>> >> Hi again, didnt work to turn DHCP off, just rendered the PC/server
>> >> without
>> >> IP address (ie not even the local net)
>> >
>> > Right.
>> >
>> >> looking at WAN services, I get the following fields to fill (for "+
>> Add
>> >> new
>> >> IPv4 port mapping" ):
>> >>
>> >> IPv4 Port forwarding table
>> >>
>> >> Name Protocol WAN port LAN port Destination IP Destination
>> > MAC
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> so the "Destination" in this, would that actually be the PC/server IP
>> >> (which
>> >> I then guess I have to set manually in the PC )
>> >
>> > Your PC/Server normally gets the same IP address from DHCP when it
>> > restarts,
>> > so you can use that address as Destination.
>> > For a web server you need to forward the external port 80 to the
>> internal
>> > port
>> > 80 of your PC/Server. In case you use https you also need to forward
>> 433
>> > to
>> > 433.
>> >
>> > --
>> > fr.gr.
>> >
>> > Freek de Kruijf
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> > To unsubscribe, e-mail: users-unsubscribe@httpd.apache.org
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>> >
>>
>>
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>>
Re: [users@httpd] invisible server
Posted by Jonathon Koyle <li...@gmail.com>.
Turn DHCP back on, then you will have an IP address to which you can
forward traffic.
On Sun, Nov 11, 2018, 09:02 georg chambert <georg.chambert@telia.com wrote:
> Hi again,
> back to the drawing board and this trouble telia router,
>
> It seems that the telia router (connecting to ext network) does not serv
> my
> server with an IP address
> the setup in the router wants me to fill in the ipv4 address that it
> should
> have DHCP served my server with.....
>
> when Im in the WAN advanced menu Im trying to fill in the UPnP variant for
> port forwarding (whatever UPnP stands
> for and what it does in this context....), but guess that im not to fill
> in
> for DynDNS.
> ( the record for forwarding though has the ETHERNET address !! which I
> think
> should suffice more than enough but not)
>
> so still stuck, but possibly on a higher "understanding" level
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Freek de Kruijf" <f....@gmail.com>
> To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 2:37 PM
> Subject: Re: [users@httpd] invisible server
>
>
> > Op woensdag 31 oktober 2018 12:48:42 CET schreef
> georg.chambert@telia.com:
> >> Hi again, didnt work to turn DHCP off, just rendered the PC/server
> >> without
> >> IP address (ie not even the local net)
> >
> > Right.
> >
> >> looking at WAN services, I get the following fields to fill (for "+ Add
> >> new
> >> IPv4 port mapping" ):
> >>
> >> IPv4 Port forwarding table
> >>
> >> Name Protocol WAN port LAN port Destination IP Destination
> > MAC
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> so the "Destination" in this, would that actually be the PC/server IP
> >> (which
> >> I then guess I have to set manually in the PC )
> >
> > Your PC/Server normally gets the same IP address from DHCP when it
> > restarts,
> > so you can use that address as Destination.
> > For a web server you need to forward the external port 80 to the
> internal
> > port
> > 80 of your PC/Server. In case you use https you also need to forward 433
> > to
> > 433.
> >
> > --
> > fr.gr.
> >
> > Freek de Kruijf
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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Re: [users@httpd] invisible server
Posted by georg chambert <ge...@telia.com>.
Hi again,
back to the drawing board and this trouble telia router,
It seems that the telia router (connecting to ext network) does not serv my
server with an IP address
the setup in the router wants me to fill in the ipv4 address that it should
have DHCP served my server with.....
when Im in the WAN advanced menu Im trying to fill in the UPnP variant for
port forwarding (whatever UPnP stands
for and what it does in this context....), but guess that im not to fill in
for DynDNS.
( the record for forwarding though has the ETHERNET address !! which I think
should suffice more than enough but not)
so still stuck, but possibly on a higher "understanding" level
----- Original Message -----
From: "Freek de Kruijf" <f....@gmail.com>
To: <us...@httpd.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2018 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: [users@httpd] invisible server
> Op woensdag 31 oktober 2018 12:48:42 CET schreef georg.chambert@telia.com:
>> Hi again, didnt work to turn DHCP off, just rendered the PC/server
>> without
>> IP address (ie not even the local net)
>
> Right.
>
>> looking at WAN services, I get the following fields to fill (for "+ Add
>> new
>> IPv4 port mapping" ):
>>
>> IPv4 Port forwarding table
>>
>> Name Protocol WAN port LAN port Destination IP Destination
> MAC
>>
>>
>>
>> so the "Destination" in this, would that actually be the PC/server IP
>> (which
>> I then guess I have to set manually in the PC )
>
> Your PC/Server normally gets the same IP address from DHCP when it
> restarts,
> so you can use that address as Destination.
> For a web server you need to forward the external port 80 to the internal
> port
> 80 of your PC/Server. In case you use https you also need to forward 433
> to
> 433.
>
> --
> fr.gr.
>
> Freek de Kruijf
>
>
>
>
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Re: [users@httpd] invisible server
Posted by Jonathon Koyle <li...@gmail.com>.
The protocol should be tcp. https://portforward.com/technicolor/ might
give you step by step instruction for you specific router. They recommend
static IP which probably isn't necessary for you, and they specify a
different port than you will likely use.
On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 10:07 AM Jonathon Koyle <li...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> I'm sure he means 443 not 433 (80 and 443 being the standard ports for
> http and https).
>
> On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 7:37 AM Freek de Kruijf <f....@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Op woensdag 31 oktober 2018 12:48:42 CET schreef georg.chambert@telia.com
>> :
>> > Hi again, didnt work to turn DHCP off, just rendered the PC/server
>> without
>> > IP address (ie not even the local net)
>>
>> Right.
>>
>> > looking at WAN services, I get the following fields to fill (for "+ Add
>> new
>> > IPv4 port mapping" ):
>> >
>> > IPv4 Port forwarding table
>> >
>> > Name Protocol WAN port LAN port
>> Destination IP Destination
>> MAC
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > so the "Destination" in this, would that actually be the PC/server IP
>> (which
>> > I then guess I have to set manually in the PC )
>>
>> Your PC/Server normally gets the same IP address from DHCP when it
>> restarts,
>> so you can use that address as Destination.
>> For a web server you need to forward the external port 80 to the internal
>> port
>> 80 of your PC/Server. In case you use https you also need to forward 433
>> to
>> 433.
>>
>> --
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Re: [users@httpd] invisible server
Posted by Jonathon Koyle <li...@gmail.com>.
I'm sure he means 443 not 433 (80 and 443 being the standard ports for http
and https).
On Wed, Oct 31, 2018 at 7:37 AM Freek de Kruijf <f....@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Op woensdag 31 oktober 2018 12:48:42 CET schreef georg.chambert@telia.com:
> > Hi again, didnt work to turn DHCP off, just rendered the PC/server
> without
> > IP address (ie not even the local net)
>
> Right.
>
> > looking at WAN services, I get the following fields to fill (for "+ Add
> new
> > IPv4 port mapping" ):
> >
> > IPv4 Port forwarding table
> >
> > Name Protocol WAN port LAN port
> Destination IP Destination
> MAC
> >
> >
> >
> > so the "Destination" in this, would that actually be the PC/server IP
> (which
> > I then guess I have to set manually in the PC )
>
> Your PC/Server normally gets the same IP address from DHCP when it
> restarts,
> so you can use that address as Destination.
> For a web server you need to forward the external port 80 to the internal
> port
> 80 of your PC/Server. In case you use https you also need to forward 433
> to
> 433.
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Re: [users@httpd] invisible server
Posted by Freek de Kruijf <f....@gmail.com>.
Op woensdag 31 oktober 2018 12:48:42 CET schreef georg.chambert@telia.com:
> Hi again, didnt work to turn DHCP off, just rendered the PC/server without
> IP address (ie not even the local net)
Right.
> looking at WAN services, I get the following fields to fill (for "+ Add new
> IPv4 port mapping" ):
>
> IPv4 Port forwarding table
>
> Name Protocol WAN port LAN port Destination IP Destination
MAC
>
>
>
> so the "Destination" in this, would that actually be the PC/server IP (which
> I then guess I have to set manually in the PC )
Your PC/Server normally gets the same IP address from DHCP when it restarts,
so you can use that address as Destination.
For a web server you need to forward the external port 80 to the internal port
80 of your PC/Server. In case you use https you also need to forward 433 to
433.
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Re: [users@httpd] invisible server
Posted by "georg.chambert@telia.com" <ge...@telia.com>.
Hi again, didnt work to turn DHCP off, just rendered the PC/server without IP address (ie not even the local net)
looking at WAN services, I get the following fields to fill (for "+ Add new IPv4 port mapping" ):
IPv4 Port forwarding table
Name Protocol WAN port LAN port Destination IP Destination MAC
so the "Destination" in this, would that actually be the PC/server IP (which I then guess I have to set manually in the PC )
OK: possibly I get it, I CANNOT GET EXTERNA IP ADDRESS LIKE BEFORE (with the old modem, I got 2 IPv4 addresses assigned by WAN/telia)
now with this modem/router, I will only get one IPv4, and then I have to "lift " traffic based on Port-number as addressed for outgoing/incoming traffic
to an IP (+port) on the Local net created by the Technicolor.......... possilby.....
tnx
/georg
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>Op woensdag 31 oktober 2018 11:26:32 CET schreef georg.chambert@telia.com:
>> Hi !
>>
>> I have run my apache server for several years (yeah I know I should take
>> time to upgrade to later version, anyways)
>>
>> I have hade an (slow) ADSL connectivity to swedish operator Telia, using an
>> Zyxtel modem, however that was burn by lightning so have now shifted to the
>> telia supplied Technicolor router/modem; however, then the server is no
>> longer visible to the network !
>
>What you need is to configure "port forwarding" in your router/modem, which
>you can do by using your browser to connect to the modem/router. Probably a
>menu like Advanced Settings.
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Re: [users@httpd] invisible server
Posted by "georg.chambert@telia.com" <ge...@telia.com>.
Hi, thanks will try,
¨
Im in the Technicolor, and it seems that this one gets a WAN IP (i.e. I would assume the "public IP address" globally reachable)
but that one seems to be to the router/modem itself, which then in turn routes to the machines "behind" it (based on outgoing traffic I guess)
looking at "port forwarding" (under "WAN services") i get quite confused :) lots of options and strangeities
there is also a "Local network" main choice, where DHCP can be turned on/off, could it be that the local network goes away and DHCP is
sent up the net to rectrieve a "WAN IP" if I turn that one off.
tnx again
/georg¨
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>Op woensdag 31 oktober 2018 11:26:32 CET schreef georg.chambert@telia.com:
>> Hi !
>>
>> I have run my apache server for several years (yeah I know I should take
>> time to upgrade to later version, anyways)
>>
>> I have hade an (slow) ADSL connectivity to swedish operator Telia, using an
>> Zyxtel modem, however that was burn by lightning so have now shifted to the
>> telia supplied Technicolor router/modem; however, then the server is no
>> longer visible to the network !
>
>What you need is to configure "port forwarding" in your router/modem, which
>you can do by using your browser to connect to the modem/router. Probably a
>menu like Advanced Settings.
>
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Re: [users@httpd] invisible server
Posted by Freek de Kruijf <f....@gmail.com>.
Op woensdag 31 oktober 2018 11:26:32 CET schreef georg.chambert@telia.com:
> Hi !
>
> I have run my apache server for several years (yeah I know I should take
> time to upgrade to later version, anyways)
>
> I have hade an (slow) ADSL connectivity to swedish operator Telia, using an
> Zyxtel modem, however that was burn by lightning so have now shifted to the
> telia supplied Technicolor router/modem; however, then the server is no
> longer visible to the network !
What you need is to configure "port forwarding" in your router/modem, which
you can do by using your browser to connect to the modem/router. Probably a
menu like Advanced Settings.
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