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Posted to solr-user@lucene.apache.org by Vishal Swaroop <vi...@gmail.com> on 2015/03/23 16:39:37 UTC

SOLR 5.0.0 and Tomcat version ?

Hi,

We are planning to configure new linux server for latest SOLR release i.e.
5.0.0

Please suggest which Tomcat version will be best compatible with SOLR5...
latest Tomcat release is 8.0

Thanks

Re: SOLR 5.0.0 and Tomcat version ?

Posted by Per Steffensen <st...@designware.dk>.
On 23/03/15 20:05, Erick Erickson wrote:
> you don't run a SQL engine from a servlet
> container, why should you run Solr that way?
https://twitter.com/steff1193/status/580491034175660032
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SOLR-7236?focusedCommentId=14383624&page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:comment-tabpanel#comment-14383624
etc

Not that I want to start the discussion again. The war seems to be lost.

Re: SOLR 5.0.0 and Tomcat version ?

Posted by Erick Erickson <er...@gmail.com>.
The argument is that "you don't run a SQL engine from a servlet
container, why should you run Solr that way?" Currently 5.x does have
a war file in the webapps directory you can use. As Alexandre says,
though, people are being encouraged to move away from that model and
use the script way of doing things.

And to be clear. "The script way of doing things" still listens on a
port for HTTP calls, still processes them, etc., etc., etc. Once you
start it up, it's just a Solr server listening on a port, like a bunch
of other services. It just doesn't need a servlet container in the
middle. Or, more accurately, end users shouldn't have to care about
what kind of thing Solr is using to listen.

Best,
Erick

On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 11:46 AM, Vishal Swaroop <vi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> a) Does this means that SOLR 5 cannot be deployed on Tomcat or it is not
> worth.
>
>
> Regards
> Vishal
>
> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Adnan Yaqoob <it...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Erick,
>> Any specific reason for going away from war file?
>>
>> Adnan
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Erick Erickson <er...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > There will be no war file distributed for a start....
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Erick
>> >
>> > On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 9:04 AM, Karl Kildén <ka...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > > Just curious, what will be done that is incompatible with servlet
>> > > containers?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On 23 March 2015 at 16:50, Aman Tandon <am...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Hi Vishal,
>> > >>
>> > >> I am not aware of which version of tomcat will suit best. But I will
>> > >> suggest to use Solr as it is, because after few more release solr will
>> > not
>> > >> be able to run using application server.
>> > >>
>> > >> So its good to use it as it is (without application server) when you
>> are
>> > >> redesigning the structure again.
>> > >>
>> > >> With Regards
>> > >> Aman Tandon
>> > >>
>> > >> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 9:09 PM, Vishal Swaroop <vishal.rec@gmail.com
>> >
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> > Hi,
>> > >> >
>> > >> > We are planning to configure new linux server for latest SOLR
>> release
>> > >> i.e.
>> > >> > 5.0.0
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Please suggest which Tomcat version will be best compatible with
>> > SOLR5...
>> > >> > latest Tomcat release is 8.0
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Thanks
>> > >> >
>> > >>
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> *Adnan Yaqoob*
>>

Re: SOLR 5.0.0 and Tomcat version ?

Posted by Alexandre Rafalovitch <ar...@gmail.com>.
There is a very long chain of discussions both on Development mailing
list and on JIRA about not supporting 3rd party containers. It's very
hard to summarize well. Please check those discussions for details.
But the end result is: it is what it is.

Solr 5+ is coming in as a black box and will continue getting even
blacker (e.g. Jetty may go away soon even as an implementation
detail). That's in the release notes. Anybody using alternative
configuration is asked to migrate to the new setup or stay with 4.x
version. Tomcat is now out of the picture all together.

Regards,
   Alex.
----
Solr Analyzers, Tokenizers, Filters, URPs and even a newsletter:
http://www.solr-start.com/


On 23 March 2015 at 14:46, Vishal Swaroop <vi...@gmail.com> wrote:
> a) Does this means that SOLR 5 cannot be deployed on Tomcat or it is not
> worth.
>
>
> Regards
> Vishal
>
> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Adnan Yaqoob <it...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Erick,
>> Any specific reason for going away from war file?
>>
>> Adnan
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Erick Erickson <er...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > There will be no war file distributed for a start....
>> >
>> > Best,
>> > Erick
>> >
>> > On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 9:04 AM, Karl Kildén <ka...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > > Just curious, what will be done that is incompatible with servlet
>> > > containers?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On 23 March 2015 at 16:50, Aman Tandon <am...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Hi Vishal,
>> > >>
>> > >> I am not aware of which version of tomcat will suit best. But I will
>> > >> suggest to use Solr as it is, because after few more release solr will
>> > not
>> > >> be able to run using application server.
>> > >>
>> > >> So its good to use it as it is (without application server) when you
>> are
>> > >> redesigning the structure again.
>> > >>
>> > >> With Regards
>> > >> Aman Tandon
>> > >>
>> > >> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 9:09 PM, Vishal Swaroop <vishal.rec@gmail.com
>> >
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >> > Hi,
>> > >> >
>> > >> > We are planning to configure new linux server for latest SOLR
>> release
>> > >> i.e.
>> > >> > 5.0.0
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Please suggest which Tomcat version will be best compatible with
>> > SOLR5...
>> > >> > latest Tomcat release is 8.0
>> > >> >
>> > >> > Thanks
>> > >> >
>> > >>
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards,
>> *Adnan Yaqoob*
>>

Re: SOLR 5.0.0 and Tomcat version ?

Posted by Vishal Swaroop <vi...@gmail.com>.
a) Does this means that SOLR 5 cannot be deployed on Tomcat or it is not
worth.


Regards
Vishal

On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 2:27 PM, Adnan Yaqoob <it...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Erick,
> Any specific reason for going away from war file?
>
> Adnan
>
> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Erick Erickson <er...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > There will be no war file distributed for a start....
> >
> > Best,
> > Erick
> >
> > On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 9:04 AM, Karl Kildén <ka...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Just curious, what will be done that is incompatible with servlet
> > > containers?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 23 March 2015 at 16:50, Aman Tandon <am...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Vishal,
> > >>
> > >> I am not aware of which version of tomcat will suit best. But I will
> > >> suggest to use Solr as it is, because after few more release solr will
> > not
> > >> be able to run using application server.
> > >>
> > >> So its good to use it as it is (without application server) when you
> are
> > >> redesigning the structure again.
> > >>
> > >> With Regards
> > >> Aman Tandon
> > >>
> > >> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 9:09 PM, Vishal Swaroop <vishal.rec@gmail.com
> >
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > Hi,
> > >> >
> > >> > We are planning to configure new linux server for latest SOLR
> release
> > >> i.e.
> > >> > 5.0.0
> > >> >
> > >> > Please suggest which Tomcat version will be best compatible with
> > SOLR5...
> > >> > latest Tomcat release is 8.0
> > >> >
> > >> > Thanks
> > >> >
> > >>
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Regards,
> *Adnan Yaqoob*
>

Re: SOLR 5.0.0 and Tomcat version ?

Posted by Adnan Yaqoob <it...@gmail.com>.
Erick,
Any specific reason for going away from war file?

Adnan

On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 12:35 PM, Erick Erickson <er...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> There will be no war file distributed for a start....
>
> Best,
> Erick
>
> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 9:04 AM, Karl Kildén <ka...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Just curious, what will be done that is incompatible with servlet
> > containers?
> >
> >
> >
> > On 23 March 2015 at 16:50, Aman Tandon <am...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Vishal,
> >>
> >> I am not aware of which version of tomcat will suit best. But I will
> >> suggest to use Solr as it is, because after few more release solr will
> not
> >> be able to run using application server.
> >>
> >> So its good to use it as it is (without application server) when you are
> >> redesigning the structure again.
> >>
> >> With Regards
> >> Aman Tandon
> >>
> >> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 9:09 PM, Vishal Swaroop <vi...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > We are planning to configure new linux server for latest SOLR release
> >> i.e.
> >> > 5.0.0
> >> >
> >> > Please suggest which Tomcat version will be best compatible with
> SOLR5...
> >> > latest Tomcat release is 8.0
> >> >
> >> > Thanks
> >> >
> >>
>



-- 
Regards,
*Adnan Yaqoob*

Re: SOLR 5.0.0 and Tomcat version ?

Posted by Erick Erickson <er...@gmail.com>.
There will be no war file distributed for a start....

Best,
Erick

On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 9:04 AM, Karl Kildén <ka...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just curious, what will be done that is incompatible with servlet
> containers?
>
>
>
> On 23 March 2015 at 16:50, Aman Tandon <am...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Vishal,
>>
>> I am not aware of which version of tomcat will suit best. But I will
>> suggest to use Solr as it is, because after few more release solr will not
>> be able to run using application server.
>>
>> So its good to use it as it is (without application server) when you are
>> redesigning the structure again.
>>
>> With Regards
>> Aman Tandon
>>
>> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 9:09 PM, Vishal Swaroop <vi...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > We are planning to configure new linux server for latest SOLR release
>> i.e.
>> > 5.0.0
>> >
>> > Please suggest which Tomcat version will be best compatible with SOLR5...
>> > latest Tomcat release is 8.0
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> >
>>

Re: SOLR 5.0.0 and Tomcat version ?

Posted by Karl Kildén <ka...@gmail.com>.
Just curious, what will be done that is incompatible with servlet
containers?



On 23 March 2015 at 16:50, Aman Tandon <am...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Vishal,
>
> I am not aware of which version of tomcat will suit best. But I will
> suggest to use Solr as it is, because after few more release solr will not
> be able to run using application server.
>
> So its good to use it as it is (without application server) when you are
> redesigning the structure again.
>
> With Regards
> Aman Tandon
>
> On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 9:09 PM, Vishal Swaroop <vi...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > We are planning to configure new linux server for latest SOLR release
> i.e.
> > 5.0.0
> >
> > Please suggest which Tomcat version will be best compatible with SOLR5...
> > latest Tomcat release is 8.0
> >
> > Thanks
> >
>

Re: SOLR 5.0.0 and Tomcat version ?

Posted by Aman Tandon <am...@gmail.com>.
Hi Vishal,

I am not aware of which version of tomcat will suit best. But I will
suggest to use Solr as it is, because after few more release solr will not
be able to run using application server.

So its good to use it as it is (without application server) when you are
redesigning the structure again.

With Regards
Aman Tandon

On Mon, Mar 23, 2015 at 9:09 PM, Vishal Swaroop <vi...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> We are planning to configure new linux server for latest SOLR release i.e.
> 5.0.0
>
> Please suggest which Tomcat version will be best compatible with SOLR5...
> latest Tomcat release is 8.0
>
> Thanks
>