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Posted to users@qpid.apache.org by Lars Bachmann <la...@s2002.tu-chemnitz.de> on 2008/05/22 17:41:13 UTC
cluster
hello,
Im new to qpid and have one question. Does qpid support a cluster of
brokers and if yes has anyone some experience (good or bad) with it ?
What about failover and load balancing ?
Lars
RE: cluster
Posted by Harvey Li <ha...@Objectivasoftware.com>.
Thanks. We intend to use C++ broker and java client now.
-----Original Message-----
From: Carl Trieloff [mailto:cctrieloff@redhat.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 9:59 AM
To: Harvey Li
Cc: Martin Ritchie; qpid-users@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: cluster
The Java broker does not currently support clustering.
regards
Carl.
Harvey Li wrote:
> Hi all;
> I'm also new and I'm wondering the cluster related feature about java
> version. Please forgive me to ask a trivial question. But the website
> tell me nothing about java version
>
http://qpid.apache.org/faq.html#FAQ-Clustering%2CFederationandDisasterRe
> covery
> And the URL in your email has expired.
> Did you have any update? Or could you please kindly point out where I
> can find the document about it?
>
> Best regards,
> Harvey Li
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Ritchie [mailto:ritchiem@apache.org]
> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 5:32 PM
> To: qpid-users@incubator.apache.org; cctrieloff@redhat.com
> Subject: Re: cluster
>
> 2008/5/23 Carl Trieloff <cc...@redhat.com>:
>
>> Lars Bachmann wrote:
>>
>>> hello,
>>>
>>> Im new to qpid and have one question. Does qpid support a cluster of
>>> brokers and if yes has anyone some experience (good or bad) with it
?
>>>
> What
>
>>> about failover and load balancing ?
>>>
>>> Lars
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> M2.1 supports client failover so active-passive setup can be setup
>>
> with the
>
>> type A-P software, cluster-suite, veritus etc... there is active
>>
> -active
>
>> cluster support work being done currently on the C++ trunk broker,
>>
> there was
>
>> a cluster module for Java broker, but that is being planned to be
>>
> redone.
>
>> One of the guys that know the M2.1 failover code well can provide
more
>> details.
>>
>
> As Carl says the M2.1 Java code base has an active-passive setup for
> the broker. For the client it has all be hidden away. All that a user
> need do is to specify the two brokers in the connection url and the
> client will automatically attempt to connect to the second broker if
> the first goes down.
>
> Details of the Connection URL can be found here :
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/qpid/ConnectionURLFormat
> The Java cluster module was for M1 and had serious problems as AMQP
> 0_8 which M1 supports has no support for clustering.
>
> What are you trying to achieve with clustering perhaps the upcoming
> work on Message Federation (QPID-946) for the Java broker will suit.
>
> Regards
>
> Martin
>
>
>> Carl.
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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Re: cluster
Posted by Carl Trieloff <cc...@redhat.com>.
The Java broker does not currently support clustering.
regards
Carl.
Harvey Li wrote:
> Hi all;
> I'm also new and I'm wondering the cluster related feature about java
> version. Please forgive me to ask a trivial question. But the website
> tell me nothing about java version
> http://qpid.apache.org/faq.html#FAQ-Clustering%2CFederationandDisasterRe
> covery
> And the URL in your email has expired.
> Did you have any update? Or could you please kindly point out where I
> can find the document about it?
>
> Best regards,
> Harvey Li
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Martin Ritchie [mailto:ritchiem@apache.org]
> Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 5:32 PM
> To: qpid-users@incubator.apache.org; cctrieloff@redhat.com
> Subject: Re: cluster
>
> 2008/5/23 Carl Trieloff <cc...@redhat.com>:
>
>> Lars Bachmann wrote:
>>
>>> hello,
>>>
>>> Im new to qpid and have one question. Does qpid support a cluster of
>>> brokers and if yes has anyone some experience (good or bad) with it ?
>>>
> What
>
>>> about failover and load balancing ?
>>>
>>> Lars
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> M2.1 supports client failover so active-passive setup can be setup
>>
> with the
>
>> type A-P software, cluster-suite, veritus etc... there is active
>>
> -active
>
>> cluster support work being done currently on the C++ trunk broker,
>>
> there was
>
>> a cluster module for Java broker, but that is being planned to be
>>
> redone.
>
>> One of the guys that know the M2.1 failover code well can provide more
>> details.
>>
>
> As Carl says the M2.1 Java code base has an active-passive setup for
> the broker. For the client it has all be hidden away. All that a user
> need do is to specify the two brokers in the connection url and the
> client will automatically attempt to connect to the second broker if
> the first goes down.
>
> Details of the Connection URL can be found here :
> http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/qpid/ConnectionURLFormat
> The Java cluster module was for M1 and had serious problems as AMQP
> 0_8 which M1 supports has no support for clustering.
>
> What are you trying to achieve with clustering perhaps the upcoming
> work on Message Federation (QPID-946) for the Java broker will suit.
>
> Regards
>
> Martin
>
>
>> Carl.
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
Re: cluster
Posted by Harvey Li <ha...@Objectivasoftware.com>.
Thank you for your Timely response.
We need clustering to support a reliable service.
Failover, load balancing, etc.
________________________________
From: Aidan Skinner [mailto:aidan.skinner@gmail.com]
Sent: 2009-5-11 (ζζδΈ) 18:05
To: users@qpid.apache.org
Cc: Martin Ritchie; qpid-users@incubator.apache.org; cctrieloff@redhat.com
Subject: Re: cluster
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Harvey Li
<ha...@objectivasoftware.com> wrote:
> I'm also new and I'm wondering the cluster related feature about java
> version. Please forgive me to ask a trivial question. But the website
> tell me nothing about java version
> http://qpid.apache.org/faq.html#FAQ-Clustering%2CFederationandDisasterRe
> covery
There isn't any current support for clustering in the Qpid Java
server. There's been some discussion on dev@qpid.apache.org recently
but it's still not at the stage of running code, let alone testable at
this point.
What do you want to use clustering for? There's often a simpler
solution for many use cases.
- Aidan
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Re: cluster
Posted by Aidan Skinner <ai...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Harvey Li
<ha...@objectivasoftware.com> wrote:
> I'm also new and I'm wondering the cluster related feature about java
> version. Please forgive me to ask a trivial question. But the website
> tell me nothing about java version
> http://qpid.apache.org/faq.html#FAQ-Clustering%2CFederationandDisasterRe
> covery
There isn't any current support for clustering in the Qpid Java
server. There's been some discussion on dev@qpid.apache.org recently
but it's still not at the stage of running code, let alone testable at
this point.
What do you want to use clustering for? There's often a simpler
solution for many use cases.
- Aidan
--
Apache Qpid - Give me convenience or give me death
http://qpid.apache.org
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Apache Qpid - AMQP Messaging Implementation
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Use/Interact: mailto:users-subscribe@qpid.apache.org
RE: cluster
Posted by Harvey Li <ha...@Objectivasoftware.com>.
Hi all;
I'm also new and I'm wondering the cluster related feature about java
version. Please forgive me to ask a trivial question. But the website
tell me nothing about java version
http://qpid.apache.org/faq.html#FAQ-Clustering%2CFederationandDisasterRe
covery
And the URL in your email has expired.
Did you have any update? Or could you please kindly point out where I
can find the document about it?
Best regards,
Harvey Li
-----Original Message-----
From: Martin Ritchie [mailto:ritchiem@apache.org]
Sent: Monday, May 26, 2008 5:32 PM
To: qpid-users@incubator.apache.org; cctrieloff@redhat.com
Subject: Re: cluster
2008/5/23 Carl Trieloff <cc...@redhat.com>:
> Lars Bachmann wrote:
>>
>> hello,
>>
>> Im new to qpid and have one question. Does qpid support a cluster of
>> brokers and if yes has anyone some experience (good or bad) with it ?
What
>> about failover and load balancing ?
>>
>> Lars
>>
>>
>
> M2.1 supports client failover so active-passive setup can be setup
with the
> type A-P software, cluster-suite, veritus etc... there is active
-active
> cluster support work being done currently on the C++ trunk broker,
there was
> a cluster module for Java broker, but that is being planned to be
redone.
>
> One of the guys that know the M2.1 failover code well can provide more
> details.
As Carl says the M2.1 Java code base has an active-passive setup for
the broker. For the client it has all be hidden away. All that a user
need do is to specify the two brokers in the connection url and the
client will automatically attempt to connect to the second broker if
the first goes down.
Details of the Connection URL can be found here :
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/qpid/ConnectionURLFormat
The Java cluster module was for M1 and had serious problems as AMQP
0_8 which M1 supports has no support for clustering.
What are you trying to achieve with clustering perhaps the upcoming
work on Message Federation (QPID-946) for the Java broker will suit.
Regards
Martin
> Carl.
>
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Re: cluster
Posted by Martin Ritchie <ri...@apache.org>.
2008/5/23 Carl Trieloff <cc...@redhat.com>:
> Lars Bachmann wrote:
>>
>> hello,
>>
>> Im new to qpid and have one question. Does qpid support a cluster of
>> brokers and if yes has anyone some experience (good or bad) with it ? What
>> about failover and load balancing ?
>>
>> Lars
>>
>>
>
> M2.1 supports client failover so active-passive setup can be setup with the
> type A-P software, cluster-suite, veritus etc... there is active -active
> cluster support work being done currently on the C++ trunk broker, there was
> a cluster module for Java broker, but that is being planned to be redone.
>
> One of the guys that know the M2.1 failover code well can provide more
> details.
As Carl says the M2.1 Java code base has an active-passive setup for
the broker. For the client it has all be hidden away. All that a user
need do is to specify the two brokers in the connection url and the
client will automatically attempt to connect to the second broker if
the first goes down.
Details of the Connection URL can be found here :
http://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/qpid/ConnectionURLFormat
The Java cluster module was for M1 and had serious problems as AMQP
0_8 which M1 supports has no support for clustering.
What are you trying to achieve with clustering perhaps the upcoming
work on Message Federation (QPID-946) for the Java broker will suit.
Regards
Martin
> Carl.
>
--
Martin Ritchie
Re: cluster
Posted by Carl Trieloff <cc...@redhat.com>.
Lars Bachmann wrote:
> hello,
>
> Im new to qpid and have one question. Does qpid support a cluster of
> brokers and if yes has anyone some experience (good or bad) with it ?
> What about failover and load balancing ?
>
> Lars
>
>
M2.1 supports client failover so active-passive setup can be setup with
the type A-P software, cluster-suite, veritus etc... there is active
-active cluster support work being done currently on the C++ trunk
broker, there was a cluster module for Java broker, but that is being
planned to be redone.
One of the guys that know the M2.1 failover code well can provide more
details.
Carl.