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Posted to dev@httpd.apache.org by "Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy" <gr...@apache.org> on 2006/01/27 17:24:36 UTC

Edge-Side Includes Anyone?

Sorry this is somewhat OT, I'm looking for people who have dealt 
with/would like to share experience/discuss Edge Architecture and Edge 
Side Includes (www.esi.org). I've done some experimenting with over the 
last week and to me the approach appears rational and reasonable, and I 
see mod_cache folks have it on their wish list, but I'd really appreciate 
some input based real world experience with EA.

Thanks in advance, and if you know of a good mailing list for this, please 
point me to it (I couldn't find one).

Grisha


Re: Edge-Side Includes Anyone?

Posted by Nick Kew <ni...@webthing.com>.
On Friday 27 January 2006 16:24, Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy wrote:
> Sorry this is somewhat OT, I'm looking for people who have dealt
> with/would like to share experience/discuss Edge Architecture and Edge
> Side Includes (www.esi.org). I've done some experimenting with over the
> last week and to me the approach appears rational and reasonable, and I
> see mod_cache folks have it on their wish list, but I'd really appreciate
> some input based real world experience with EA.

FWIW, I implemented a parser for it, but without the cacheing, back in 2003.
That was with an early predecessor to mod_xmlns.  I haven't bothered to
maintain it, because I never encountered sufficient interest to seem 
worthwhile.

I'm not really convinced of its value.  Unless you have a specific need for
the standard, mod_publisher offers equivalent capabilities and a good
deal more.

-- 
Nick Kew

Re: Edge-Side Includes Anyone?

Posted by Bill Stoddard <bi...@wstoddard.com>.
Gregory (Grisha) Trubetskoy wrote:
> 
> Sorry this is somewhat OT, I'm looking for people who have dealt 
> with/would like to share experience/discuss Edge Architecture and Edge 
> Side Includes (www.esi.org). I've done some experimenting with over the 
> last week and to me the approach appears rational and reasonable, and I 
> see mod_cache folks have it on their wish list, but I'd really 
> appreciate some input based real world experience with EA.
> 
> Thanks in advance, and if you know of a good mailing list for this, 
> please point me to it (I couldn't find one).
> 
> Grisha
> 

Try teaching mod_include about esi tags. I played around with this a few years back and made quick progress. 
The folks who asked me to try this (as part of my day job) were rather horrified, I think, at how easy it was 
to get a working prototype that demonstrated interesting features. Performance was not great. mod_cache can 
(or could at one time in the past) cache fragments.  It's an interesting project, but not one I can invest 
time in. Good luck.

Bill