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Help with Design, Approach and specifications for group lending/savings on Fineract CN.

Hello everyone,





*I am a GSoC 2018 intern working on the Group Service for Apache Fineract
CN, I have learn alot from the community over the past few months and I am
very grateful to the community, the developer and architects of this great
platform. I am also thankful to my mentor, Awasum and Isaac Kamga for all
the patience and help offered this far.My project was divided into 2
phases:1. Was to consume the existing Group APIs available in Fineract CN
and incorporate them(UI) into fims web app2. To add group management
features and extend the backend to take more group lending and savings use
cases. So far I am almost done with consuming the existing endpoints within
fims, Thanks to Mark Van Veen for all the help. I am getting ready to start
working on the backend and I will like help on the following:a.) It will be
great and will ease my work if someone could help me with the design,
architectural and user specs for the current implementation of groups so
that I can complete the backend as originally intended.I am hoping there
was a design document or an approach used when this service was initially
developed. Markus, Myrle, please help me here and I will really appreciate
it to get some clarification and additional help with the specifications
and how I might proceed.b.) I will need help understanding how I might link
groups service to work with deposit and portfolio services to provide group
savings and lending. And also how this might affect accounting service.c.)
I will like help if other business users identify and elicit requirements
on Confluence wiki about group lending and savings use cases. If they are
written down, it will be great, if you answer on site here..I can gather
the requirements together and put in Confluence. Ashok and Ed are already
helping with getting Pembe and I to understand the group requirements and
we need more input.Thanks very much.Ruphine Kengne*

Re: Help with Design, Approach and specifications for group lending/savings on Fineract CN.

Posted by Markus Geiss <ma...@kuelap.io>.
Hello Ruphine,

you should keep in mind that the group service is supposed to only manage
groups and there related tasks, e.g. branch assignment, meetings, and
members. Members will be a collection of existing customers from customer.
Group service is really just for administrative purposes.

Loan and savings product should be build specifically for that use case. We
should not try to mingle/enhance existing individual products to be able to
handle groups.

For this you should ask for one specific use case, given that there a bunch
different ways to deal with group related product.

Cheers

Markus

On Sat, Jul 7, 2018 at 2:49 PM Ruphine Kengne <ru...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> I am a GSoC 2018 intern working on the Group Service for Apache Fineract
> CN.
>
> I have learn a lot from the community over the past few months and I am
> very grateful to the
> community, the developer and architects of this great platform. I am also
> thankful to my mentor,
> Awasum Yannick and Isaac Kamga for all the patience and help offered this
> far.
>
> My project was divided into 2 phases:
>
> 1. Was to consume the existing Group APIs available in Fineract CN and
> incorporate them into fim-web-app
> 2. To add group management features and extend the back-end to take more
> group lending and saving use cases
>
> So far,
>    - I am almost done with consuming the endpoints within fims, thanks to
> Mark Van Veen for all the help
>    - I am getting ready to start working on the back-end and i will like
> help on the following:
>
> a.) It will be great and will ease my work if someone could help me with
> the design, architectural and
> user specs for the current implementation of groups so that i can complete
> the back-end as originally intended.
>
> I am hoping there was a design document or an approach used when this
> service was initially developed.
> Markus, Myrle, please help me here and i will really appreciate it to get
> some clarification and additional help with
>  the specifications and how i might proceed.
>
> b.) I will need help understanding how i might link group service to work
> with deposit and portfolio services
> to provide group savings and lending. And also how this might affect
> accounting service.
>
> c.) I will like help if other business users identify and elicit
> requirements on Confluence wiki about group
> lending and savings use cases. If they are written down, it will be great.
> If you answer on site here,
>
> I can gather the requirements together and put on Confluence. Ashok and Ed
> are already helping
> with getting Pembe and I to understand the group requirements and please we
> need more input from more
> experienced developers.
>
> Thanks very much,
>
> Ruphine Kengne
>
> P.S : I am re-posting because the first time the email appear too clumsy
> and unreadable.
>
>
> On 7 July 2018 at 12:12, Ruphine Kengne <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello everyone,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > *I am a GSoC 2018 intern working on the Group Service for Apache Fineract
> > CN, I have learn alot from the community over the past few months and I
> am
> > very grateful to the community, the developer and architects of this
> great
> > platform. I am also thankful to my mentor, Awasum and Isaac Kamga for all
> > the patience and help offered this far.My project was divided into 2
> > phases:1. Was to consume the existing Group APIs available in Fineract CN
> > and incorporate them(UI) into fims web app2. To add group management
> > features and extend the backend to take more group lending and savings
> use
> > cases. So far I am almost done with consuming the existing endpoints
> within
> > fims, Thanks to Mark Van Veen for all the help. I am getting ready to
> start
> > working on the backend and I will like help on the following:a.) It will
> be
> > great and will ease my work if someone could help me with the design,
> > architectural and user specs for the current implementation of groups so
> > that I can complete the backend as originally intended.I am hoping there
> > was a design document or an approach used when this service was initially
> > developed. Markus, Myrle, please help me here and I will really
> appreciate
> > it to get some clarification and additional help with the specifications
> > and how I might proceed.b.) I will need help understanding how I might
> link
> > groups service to work with deposit and portfolio services to provide
> group
> > savings and lending. And also how this might affect accounting
> service.c.)
> > I will like help if other business users identify and elicit requirements
> > on Confluence wiki about group lending and savings use cases. If they are
> > written down, it will be great, if you answer on site here..I can gather
> > the requirements together and put in Confluence. Ashok and Ed are already
> > helping with getting Pembe and I to understand the group requirements and
> > we need more input.Thanks very much.Ruphine Kengne*
> >
>

Re: Help with Design, Approach and specifications for group lending/savings on Fineract CN.

Posted by Ruphine Kengne <ru...@gmail.com>.
Hello everyone,

I am a GSoC 2018 intern working on the Group Service for Apache Fineract CN.

I have learn a lot from the community over the past few months and I am
very grateful to the
community, the developer and architects of this great platform. I am also
thankful to my mentor,
Awasum Yannick and Isaac Kamga for all the patience and help offered this
far.

My project was divided into 2 phases:

1. Was to consume the existing Group APIs available in Fineract CN and
incorporate them into fim-web-app
2. To add group management features and extend the back-end to take more
group lending and saving use cases

So far,
   - I am almost done with consuming the endpoints within fims, thanks to
Mark Van Veen for all the help
   - I am getting ready to start working on the back-end and i will like
help on the following:

a.) It will be great and will ease my work if someone could help me with
the design, architectural and
user specs for the current implementation of groups so that i can complete
the back-end as originally intended.

I am hoping there was a design document or an approach used when this
service was initially developed.
Markus, Myrle, please help me here and i will really appreciate it to get
some clarification and additional help with
 the specifications and how i might proceed.

b.) I will need help understanding how i might link group service to work
with deposit and portfolio services
to provide group savings and lending. And also how this might affect
accounting service.

c.) I will like help if other business users identify and elicit
requirements on Confluence wiki about group
lending and savings use cases. If they are written down, it will be great.
If you answer on site here,

I can gather the requirements together and put on Confluence. Ashok and Ed
are already helping
with getting Pembe and I to understand the group requirements and please we
need more input from more
experienced developers.

Thanks very much,

Ruphine Kengne

P.S : I am re-posting because the first time the email appear too clumsy
and unreadable.


On 7 July 2018 at 12:12, Ruphine Kengne <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
>
>
>
>
> *I am a GSoC 2018 intern working on the Group Service for Apache Fineract
> CN, I have learn alot from the community over the past few months and I am
> very grateful to the community, the developer and architects of this great
> platform. I am also thankful to my mentor, Awasum and Isaac Kamga for all
> the patience and help offered this far.My project was divided into 2
> phases:1. Was to consume the existing Group APIs available in Fineract CN
> and incorporate them(UI) into fims web app2. To add group management
> features and extend the backend to take more group lending and savings use
> cases. So far I am almost done with consuming the existing endpoints within
> fims, Thanks to Mark Van Veen for all the help. I am getting ready to start
> working on the backend and I will like help on the following:a.) It will be
> great and will ease my work if someone could help me with the design,
> architectural and user specs for the current implementation of groups so
> that I can complete the backend as originally intended.I am hoping there
> was a design document or an approach used when this service was initially
> developed. Markus, Myrle, please help me here and I will really appreciate
> it to get some clarification and additional help with the specifications
> and how I might proceed.b.) I will need help understanding how I might link
> groups service to work with deposit and portfolio services to provide group
> savings and lending. And also how this might affect accounting service.c.)
> I will like help if other business users identify and elicit requirements
> on Confluence wiki about group lending and savings use cases. If they are
> written down, it will be great, if you answer on site here..I can gather
> the requirements together and put in Confluence. Ashok and Ed are already
> helping with getting Pembe and I to understand the group requirements and
> we need more input.Thanks very much.Ruphine Kengne*
>