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Shepherding September 2013
Greets,
Here are notes by shepherds and Mentors extracted from our September 2013
report.
Shepherd participation was light this month; a few stalwarts seem to have
quietly fallen away. Thanks to them for their past efforts... If there are
volunteers out there interested in shepherding, please speak up -- we have
slots. (Sheperding can be as minimal as scanning the mailing list archives to
ensure that a podling's Mentors have been engaged over the last quarter, or it
can involve observations and opinions as per the style of most present
shepherds.)
The full exchange regarding Drill has been included in this compendium, though
it was removed from the Board meeting agenda and thus will not end up the
Board's minutes. The conversation continued on general@incubator at
<http://s.apache.org/ORg>.
Marvin Humphrey
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Apache: Project Drill
Shepherd notes:
(Dave Fisher/wave)
I am concerned the podling is missing the DISCLAIMER in its source code
and on most web pages. There is a lot of activity but it does not seem
to include any drive to make any release. There is tremendous community
building activity. Heavy on community and light on Release/IP.
Rebuttal to shepherd notes: (Ted Dunning/tdunning)
I think that the Dave is substantially incorrect in his assessment that
there "does not seem to include any drive to make any release". This is
factually and patently incorrect. I have asked that the shepherd
reconsider this comment and retract it as it does not reflect the
substantial progress that the community is making towards a release.
(Isabel Drost-Fromm/ Apache Mahout, mentor Drill)
Dave, as for the missing disclaimer - there are still a few branding
issues with Drill. The project is currently on it's way to the first
release - for a discussion on an initial RC and issues related to it see
also http://markmail.org/thread/gl2z6dbcsjkbdelx In the process of
preparing this release a couple issues surfaced that seemed more
fundamental and are now in the process of being fixed. The Drill
community reacted very positively to the input they got and are
diligently fixing problems. Mentors provided several links both to
Apache-wide as well as Incubator-specific documentation on what needs to
be checked for an Apache release. The next RC will show how helpful that
turns out to be with fixing the existing problems.
(Grant Ingersoll, mentor)
Unlike most Incubator projects, Drill is starting from scratch code-wise
and community-wise and thus it will take longer to release, IMO. AFAICT,
the community has sustainable development underway. That being said, I
was just thinking it needed to do a release and then lo and behold there
was an RC and a vote. As Isabel points out, the community has responded
well to the feedback on the release. Once this release is out, I would
expect the community to release more often, but other than that, I think
the community is developing well, and is, in fact, doing some novel
community building things like Google Hangouts that are open to anyone
and which I think are very positive.
--------------------
Kalumet
Shepherd notes:
(rvs) Look like project is on track. Nothing jumped out at me as requiring
any special attention. Mentors seem to be pretty engaged and steering the
project in the right direction.
--------------------
MRQL
Shepherd notes:
(rvs) Project looks reasonably well off -- no major surprises. I was a
little bit surprised by a very low JIRA activity but on the other hand
they've got an exemplary Wiki and ML traffic is not too shabby either.
--------------------
S4
Shepherd notes:
(Dave Fisher/Wave) S4 knows how make releases. Is concerned about community
growth and think that may impede graduation. I think that they are
actually ready to graduate.
--------------------
Streams
Shepherd notes:
(rvs) Look like project is on track. Nothing jumped out at me as requiring
any special attention, except it would be nice to have to have a second
release out (since the first release was done immediately after entering an
incubation).
--------------------
Wave
Shepherd notes:
Mentor notes:
Ben Laurie and Vincent Siveton have stepped down as Mentors, leaving the
project with two active mentors. Currently this is not an issue.
(christian)
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Re: Shepherding September 2013
Posted by Raphael Bircher <r....@gmx.ch>.
Hi Marvin
Am 23.09.13 21:53, schrieb Marvin Humphrey:
> On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 3:48 AM, Raphael Bircher <r....@gmx.ch> wrote:
>
>> Means, I'm willing to take over a slot. I'm Committer and PMC Member of
>> Apache OpenOffice.
> Thanks for volunteering! I've added your name to the list:
>
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/IncubatorShepherds
Thanks. Please add only one project for the moment. And I will take all
podlings exept wave (because I have same personal interests in wave and
I'm allready subscribed to the list)
Greetings Raphael
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Re: Shepherding September 2013
Posted by Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>.
On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 3:48 AM, Raphael Bircher <r....@gmx.ch> wrote:
> Means, I'm willing to take over a slot. I'm Committer and PMC Member of
> Apache OpenOffice.
Thanks for volunteering! I've added your name to the list:
https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/IncubatorShepherds
Marvin Humphrey
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Re: Shepherding September 2013
Posted by Raphael Bircher <r....@gmx.ch>.
Hi at all
I hit the send button befor writing.
Am 21.09.13 12:43, schrieb Raphael Bircher:
> Am 15.09.13 06:34, schrieb Marvin Humphrey:
>> Greets,
>>
>> Here are notes by shepherds and Mentors extracted from our September
>> 2013
>> report.
>>
>> Shepherd participation was light this month; a few stalwarts seem to
>> have
>> quietly fallen away. Thanks to them for their past efforts... If
>> there are
>> volunteers out there interested in shepherding, please speak up
Means, I'm willing to take over a slot. I'm Committer and PMC Member of
Apache OpenOffice.
Greetings Raphael
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Re: Shepherding September 2013
Posted by Raphael Bircher <r....@gmx.ch>.
Am 15.09.13 06:34, schrieb Marvin Humphrey:
> Greets,
>
> Here are notes by shepherds and Mentors extracted from our September 2013
> report.
>
> Shepherd participation was light this month; a few stalwarts seem to have
> quietly fallen away. Thanks to them for their past efforts... If there are
> volunteers out there interested in shepherding, please speak up -- we have
> slots. (Sheperding can be as minimal as scanning the mailing list archives to
> ensure that a podling's Mentors have been engaged over the last quarter, or it
> can involve observations and opinions as per the style of most present
> shepherds.)
>
> The full exchange regarding Drill has been included in this compendium, though
> it was removed from the Board meeting agenda and thus will not end up the
> Board's minutes. The conversation continued on general@incubator at
> <http://s.apache.org/ORg>.
>
> Marvin Humphrey
>
> --------------------
> Apache: Project Drill
>
> Shepherd notes:
>
> (Dave Fisher/wave)
>
> I am concerned the podling is missing the DISCLAIMER in its source code
> and on most web pages. There is a lot of activity but it does not seem
> to include any drive to make any release. There is tremendous community
> building activity. Heavy on community and light on Release/IP.
>
> Rebuttal to shepherd notes: (Ted Dunning/tdunning)
>
> I think that the Dave is substantially incorrect in his assessment that
> there "does not seem to include any drive to make any release". This is
> factually and patently incorrect. I have asked that the shepherd
> reconsider this comment and retract it as it does not reflect the
> substantial progress that the community is making towards a release.
>
> (Isabel Drost-Fromm/ Apache Mahout, mentor Drill)
>
> Dave, as for the missing disclaimer - there are still a few branding
> issues with Drill. The project is currently on it's way to the first
> release - for a discussion on an initial RC and issues related to it see
> also http://markmail.org/thread/gl2z6dbcsjkbdelx In the process of
> preparing this release a couple issues surfaced that seemed more
> fundamental and are now in the process of being fixed. The Drill
> community reacted very positively to the input they got and are
> diligently fixing problems. Mentors provided several links both to
> Apache-wide as well as Incubator-specific documentation on what needs to
> be checked for an Apache release. The next RC will show how helpful that
> turns out to be with fixing the existing problems.
>
> (Grant Ingersoll, mentor)
>
> Unlike most Incubator projects, Drill is starting from scratch code-wise
> and community-wise and thus it will take longer to release, IMO. AFAICT,
> the community has sustainable development underway. That being said, I
> was just thinking it needed to do a release and then lo and behold there
> was an RC and a vote. As Isabel points out, the community has responded
> well to the feedback on the release. Once this release is out, I would
> expect the community to release more often, but other than that, I think
> the community is developing well, and is, in fact, doing some novel
> community building things like Google Hangouts that are open to anyone
> and which I think are very positive.
>
> --------------------
> Kalumet
>
> Shepherd notes:
>
> (rvs) Look like project is on track. Nothing jumped out at me as requiring
> any special attention. Mentors seem to be pretty engaged and steering the
> project in the right direction.
>
> --------------------
> MRQL
>
> Shepherd notes:
>
> (rvs) Project looks reasonably well off -- no major surprises. I was a
> little bit surprised by a very low JIRA activity but on the other hand
> they've got an exemplary Wiki and ML traffic is not too shabby either.
>
> --------------------
> S4
>
> Shepherd notes:
>
> (Dave Fisher/Wave) S4 knows how make releases. Is concerned about community
> growth and think that may impede graduation. I think that they are
> actually ready to graduate.
>
> --------------------
> Streams
>
> Shepherd notes:
>
> (rvs) Look like project is on track. Nothing jumped out at me as requiring
> any special attention, except it would be nice to have to have a second
> release out (since the first release was done immediately after entering an
> incubation).
>
> --------------------
> Wave
>
> Shepherd notes:
>
> Mentor notes:
>
> Ben Laurie and Vincent Siveton have stepped down as Mentors, leaving the
> project with two active mentors. Currently this is not an issue.
> (christian)
>
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Re: Shepherding September 2013
Posted by Andrei Savu <as...@apache.org>.
On Sun, Sep 15, 2013 at 7:34 AM, Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>wrote:
> Shepherd participation was light this month; a few stalwarts seem to have
> quietly fallen away. Thanks to them for their past efforts... If there
> are
> volunteers out there interested in shepherding, please speak up -- we have
> slots. (Sheperding can be as minimal as scanning the mailing list
> archives to
> ensure that a podling's Mentors have been engaged over the last quarter,
> or it
> can involve observations and opinions as per the style of most present
> shepherds.)
>
I'm also available to help. I can review 1-2 projects per month.
Regards,
-- Andrei Savu
Re: Shepherding September 2013
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
> If there are volunteers out there interested in shepherding, please speak up -- we have
> slots.
I like to stick my hand up if there still a free spot. I'm an Apache Flex PMC and committer, I've helped out (and spoken) at two ApacheCons, have been active in Apache Flex through incubation to becoming a top level project and since then have been the release manager for the several versions. I'm not an ASF member or on the incubator.
Thanks,
Justin
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