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[4/6] incubator git commit: INCUBATOR-202 Split graduation and handover to different guides, as they have different usage. Clarify how to use the infra TLP requests and removed unnecessary sections.

INCUBATOR-202 Split graduation and handover to different guides, as they have different usage.  Clarify how to use the infra TLP requests and removed unnecessary sections.


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Commit: http://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/commit/4f8ce23c
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Branch: refs/heads/INCUBATOR-202
Commit: 4f8ce23c4f2206615630f13653f875e14a649877
Parents: 6baac18
Author: John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
Authored: Tue Jul 18 21:15:49 2017 -0400
Committer: John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
Committed: Wed Jul 19 18:30:05 2017 -0400

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diff --git a/pages/guides/graduation.ad b/pages/guides/graduation.ad
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@@ -29,7 +29,7 @@ incubator general list. It also describes some of
 the first steps that should be taken after
 graduation.
 
-*This is just a guide. Policy is stated link:https://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html[here].*
+*This is just a guide. Policy is stated link:/policy/incubation.html[here].*
 
 Help to improve the system by posting a patch for
 this document to the incubator section of JIRA or a
@@ -65,9 +65,9 @@ to the link:lists.html#general+at+incubator.apache.org[general incubator list].
 
 Each proposal has a link:/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Sponsor[Sponsor].
 The identity of the Sponsor indicates the natural
-destination. For proposals sponsored by the link:/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#board[Board] or by
+destination. For proposals sponsored by the link:/policy/roles_and_responsibilities.html#the_board[Board] or by
 the 
-link:/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Incubator+Project+Management+Committee+%28PMC%29[IncubatorPMC (IPMC)], this is a top level project. For others,
+link:/policy/roles_and_responsibilities.html#incubator_project_management_committee_ipmc[IncubatorPMC (IPMC)], this is a top level project. For others,
 this is as a subproject of the sponsoring project. However, the
 destination is fixed only on graduation, not entry. Projects
 grow and evolve during the graduation process. As
@@ -463,253 +463,3 @@ link:/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Incubator+Project+Management+Co
 subproject. This *VOTE*s should only be started once the
 project has *VOTE*d to accept the subproject.
 
-== Life After Graduation
-
-=== Handover
-
-This is the transfer of virtual resources from the care of
-the link:/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Incubator+Project+Management+Committee+%28PMC%29[IPMC]
-to the care of either the new or existing top
-level project taking charge of the graduating community.
-
-==== Graduating as Subproject
-
-This is the simple case. The 
-link:/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Chair+of+the+Incubator+PMC[IPMC Chair] and the Chair of the project accepting the
-graduating community organize the handover between
-themselves.
-
-==== Graduating as New Top Level Project
-
-When graduating to a new project, the process is more
-complex. Creating a new project requires a 
-link:http://www.apache.org/foundation/board/calendar.html[resolution] 
-to be passed by the link:http://www.apache.org/foundation/board/[Board].
-Usually once this happens, members of the Board will
-inform the appropriate chairs and link:http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#structure[PMCs].
-Occasionally, this will be missed: if more than 72
-hours has passed since the Board meeting, it may be
-worth someone posting a polite reminder to their
-favorite director.
-
-The link:#tlp-resolution[resolution] will appoint a Chair for the new
-project. The Chair will also be appointed an 
-link:http://www.apache.org/foundation/[Officer]
-of the Apache Software Foundation. This allows them
-access to official resources of the foundation as well
-as granting power to act on behalf of Apache.
-
-Once appointed, the new Chair needs to:
-
-- Subscribe to the *board* mailing list
-- Subscribe to the *infrastructure* mailing list
-- Ensure that they have been added to 
-link:https://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?service=pmc-chairs[the PMC chairs group (pmc-chairs) in LDAP].
-The ASF Secretary should do this without any action on the part
-of the new chair. As with above, if it has not happened within
-72 hours of the resolution passing, contact the secretary to remind them.
-- Check out the link:https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/foundation/officers[*foundation/officers*] folder from the private repository.
-Users with member or pmc-chairs karma can do this.
-- Add yourself to the #foundation/officers/affiliations.txt# and the #foundation/officers/irs-disclosures.txt* files with the appropriate information.
-- Add your details to the foundation web site Officer list at link:http://www.apache.org/foundation/index.html[http://www.apache.org/foundation/index.html] (in SVN at link:https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/infrastructure/site/trunk/content/foundation/[https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/infrastructure/site/trunk/content/foundation/])
-- Review appropriate documentation:
-** link:http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair[PMC Chair Duties]
-** PMC link:http://www.apache.org/dev/#pmc[documentation]
-** Jakarta link:http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/RoleOfChair[Chair guide]
-** Incubator link:http://incubator.apache.org/guides/chair.html[Chair guide]
-** Reporting link:http://www.apache.org/foundation/board/calendar.html[calendar]
-- Work out a reporting schedule with the link:/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#board[Board]. For
-the first three months after graduation this will
-be monthly. After that, the project should slot
-into a quarterly reporting schedule. Now is a good time to remove
-the project from the Incubator reporting schedule.
-- Work with the link:http://www.apache.org/dev/index.html#infra[Apache Infrastructure team]
-to set up the top level project
-infrastructure. The various infrastructure tasks that are required
-(see link:#transfer[check list])
-should be consolidated into a single issue (see link:https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-4069[this]
-for example). This should be created in the category
-link:https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&amp;mode=hide&amp;pid=10410&amp;sorter/order=DESC&amp;sorter/field=priority&amp;resolution=-1&amp;component=10858[TLP Admin].
-- Ensure the PMC is added to the committee-info.txt file at https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/committers/board/committee-info.txt
-There are 3 sections which need to be updated; see instructions in the file.
-You may need to get a member to help with this.
-
-They should then be able to start assembling the new
-link:http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#structure[PMC].
-The starting membership is listed in the
-link:#tlp-resolution[resolution]. However, the Chair of the new project
-needs to ensure that private list is created and the
-membership subscribed.
-
-Members of the new PMC need to:
-- Subscribe to the private mailing list for the project
-- Review appropriate documentation:
-** Apache link:http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html[PMC Guide]
-** Related link:http://www.apache.org/dev/#pmc[documentation]
-
-Once all this is in place, resources can start to be
-handed over to the new project.
-
-Please continue to hang around the Incubator and help
-new podlings have an easier time than you did!
-
-=== First Steps Outside the Incubator
-
-Graduation is the first step in what is hopefully a long road.
-There are some issues which incubation may not cover.
-
-==== Transferring Resources
-
-When a project graduates, then the infrastructure
-resources (mailing lists, websites, source, etc.) need to
-be transferred from the Incubator to a project's new home.
-
-Although the below checklist is still generally useful, *the infrastructure process has been streamlined*, see
-http://www.apache.org/dev/infra-contact#requesting-graduation .  You might also want to check JIRA checklist tickets for projects that graduated in the last month or two.
-
-Checklist:
-
-- Update the Incubator status records
-** Like the rest of incubation, graduation is a process. Updating your
-status records as you progress will enable others to assist.
-** Update the podling 
-link:#notes-status[status page].
-All sections should now be filled in
-including *EXIT*. Take some
-time to read carefully since this page
-forms the final public record for
-graduation.
-** Update the Incubator
-link:http://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html[status page] to denote the project as "graduating" when you commence,
-then as "graduated" when you are finished.
-The notes link:#unincubate[below] will assist.
-* Source
-** Post an announcement to the development list
-telling everyone that the repository is about
-to be moved
-** Post an announcement containing instructions
-for developers describing how to #svn switch# their workspaces
-** Update site, wikis, *pom.xml* and
-other resources to point to the new repository
-location.
-* Websites
-** Transfer the podling website
-*** Load the website into its new home. See link:http://www.apache.org/dev/#web[infra notes].
-** Update the *incubator/site-publish/.htaccess* entry to
-redirect traffic from the old URLs to
-the new.  (svn location is at *http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/public/trunk/content/.htaccess*) -
-NOTE: new Top Level Projects will most likely get an automatic redirection of their website from the Incubator hostname
-once the TLP's distribution repository is moved by INFRA.
-** Post an announcement to user and
-development lists
-** When using Maven: update *pom.xml* for the location
-of the website, as well as the place
-where the site plugin will deploy the
-web site (when applicable).
-* *(Top Level Projects Only)* Add Project To link:http://www.apache.org[www.apache.org]
-** Check out https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/infrastructure/site/trunk
-** Patch #templates/blocks/projects.mdtext#
-** Commit, and if you have karma then link:https://cms.apache.org/www/publish[publish] the updated www site
-* Mailing lists
-** When your mail lists have been moved by infrastructure,
-post an announcement to your lists.
-** When using Maven: update *pom.xml* for
-the new mailing list address(es). Also update any
-documents on your website that show how to
-subscribe to the lists and/or find archives.
-** Send notice to any mailing list archivers
-that the
-address has changed, and possibly the location of
-your project (if it is listed there as being part of the
-incubator).
-** Update website: replace links to old archives with
-links to new ones and add new links to historic
-archives from incubation.
-** Check project-private mailing list membership.
-Mentors should be allowed to remain if they wish to
-do so. The subscriber list should otherwise match
-that on the resolution. See link:http://www.apache.org/dev/committers.html#mail-moderate[this] and 
-the link:http://www.ezmlm.org/[EZMLM]
-"Moderator's and Administrator's Manual".
-** Update mail addresses including:
-*** confluence commit messages (see adminstration documentation)
-*** issue tracking messages (see administration documentation)
-*** The chair should have karma to perform these tasks.
-** Double-check that all of your lists have sufficient active link:http://www.apache.org/dev/committers.html#mailing-list-moderators[moderators].
-* Issue Tracking
-** Check that the issue tracking system used by the podling reflects the project's new status.
-*Distribution mirrors
-** After you have  a release at your new home (#/dist/${project}/# area), remove any distribution artefacts from your old #/dist/incubator/${project}/#
-area. Remember from the mirror guidelines that everything is automatically added to archive.apache.org anyway.
-
-==== Final Revision of Podling Incubation Records
-
-When a project has finished its graduation steps, then the incubator resources
-need to be updated to indicate that the project is no
-longer incubating. Here are a few of the items that need
-to be done:
-* Update the svn *incubator/trunk/content/projects/${project}.xml* file to show the project's status.
-* Update the podling summary metadata file,
-i.e. *incubator/trunk/content/podlings.xml* svn file.
-See the content/podlings.dtd and follow examples of other recent graduates.
-At the beginning of the process, add the "graduating" element.
-When finished the graduation process, then:
-Change the podling status to "graduated";
-add the "enddate" attribute to document when the project graduated;
-add the "resolution" element (see other project examples);
-remove the "graduating" element.
-* After your project has finished reporting to the Incubator, then
-remove the "reporting" element from that *podlings.xml* file.
-* Ensure that other svn resources for your project have moved to your new home.
-* Review this whole graduation guide.
-* NOTE: Please edit this guide to add missing steps and clarifications.
-
-==== New Responsibilities
-===== Oversight
-
-During the stay in the Incubator, the
-link:/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Incubator+Project+Management+Committee+%28PMC%29[Incubator PMC (IPMC)]
-was responsible to the
-link:/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#board[Board]
-for oversight. A graduated project must now take
-responsibility for its own oversight.
-
-A project needs to ensure that its code base is
-clean from an IP perspective. New committers need to
-recruited, educated and mentored. Quality releases
-need to be cut. Community spirit needs to be maintained
-and conflicts resolved positively. Board reports need
-to be accurate and prompt.
-
-Help is still available but the
-appropriate bodies (infrastructure, community, legal
-and so on) should now be approached directly.
-
-===== Security
-
-Each project needs to be able to manage security issues
-discovered in their code. By their nature, these issues
-need to be dealt with in private. These issues may either
-be dealt with on a separate security list or on the
-private list. Which list is suitable for security issues
-should be noted.
-
-Volunteers need to be found from the
-link:http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#structure[PMC]
-to work with the Apache security team and act as
-first contacts on security matters. The new project
-should make contact with the team soon after graduation
-and not wait for the first issue to be raised.
-
-Projects should adopt a positive attitude towards
-security issues. It is easy to gain a poor reputation
-by mishandling of these issues. There are many people
-at Apache with considerable experience in this area
-so ask first.
-
-===== Stay In Touch
-
-Passing through the incubation process gives a very
-valuable perspective. Please help to improve the process
-by guiding new podlings and by developing improved policy
-and documentation on the link:lists.html#general+at+incubator.apache.org[general] list.

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+//Licensed under the Apache License, Version 2.0 (the "License");
+//you may not use this file except in compliance with the License.
+//You may obtain a copy of the License at
+//
+//http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0
+//
+//Unless required by applicable law or agreed to in writing, software
+//distributed under the License is distributed on an "AS IS" BASIS,
+//WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY KIND, either express or implied.
+//See the License for the specific language governing permissions and
+//limitations under the License.
+= Transferring Resources out of the Incubator
+Apache Incubator PMC
+2002-10-16
+:jbake-type: guide
+:jbake-status: published
+:idprefix:
+:toc:
+:imagesdir: ../images/
+
+== Life After Graduation
+
+Once a project has been established by the board, or a sub-project consumed by a TLP, this guide should be followed to migrate the podling from the Incubator to their own TLP.
+
+=== Handover
+
+This is the transfer of virtual resources from the care of
+the link:/policy/roles_and_responsibilities.html#incubator_project_management_committee_ipmc[IPMC]
+to the care of either the new or existing top
+level project taking charge of the graduating community.
+
+==== Graduating as Subproject
+
+This is the simple case. The
+link:/policy/roles_and_responsibilities.html#chair_of_the_incubator_pmc[IPMC Chair] and the Chair of the project accepting the
+graduating community organize the handover between
+themselves.
+
+==== Graduating as New Top Level Project
+
+When graduating to a new project, the process is more
+complex. Creating a new project requires a
+link:http://www.apache.org/foundation/board/calendar.html[resolution]
+to be passed by the link:http://www.apache.org/foundation/board/[Board].
+Usually once this happens, members of the Board will
+inform the appropriate chairs and link:http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#structure[PMCs].
+Occasionally, this will be missed: if more than 72
+hours has passed since the Board meeting, it may be
+worth someone posting a polite reminder to their
+favorite director.
+
+The link:#tlp-resolution[resolution] will appoint a Chair for the new
+project. The Chair will also be appointed an
+link:http://www.apache.org/foundation/[Officer]
+of the Apache Software Foundation. This allows them
+access to official resources of the foundation as well
+as granting power to act on behalf of Apache.
+
+Once appointed, the new Chair needs to:
+
+- Subscribe to the *board* mailing list
+- Subscribe to the *infrastructure* mailing list
+- Ensure that they have been added to
+link:https://people.apache.org/phonebook.html?service=pmc-chairs[the PMC chairs group (pmc-chairs) in LDAP].
+The ASF Secretary should do this without any action on the part
+of the new chair. As with above, if it has not happened within
+72 hours of the resolution passing, contact the secretary to remind them.
+- Check out the link:https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/foundation/officers[*foundation/officers*] folder from the private repository.
+Users with member or pmc-chairs karma can do this.
+- Add yourself to the #foundation/officers/affiliations.txt# and the #foundation/officers/irs-disclosures.txt* files with the appropriate information.
+- Add your details to the foundation web site Officer list at link:http://www.apache.org/foundation/index.html[http://www.apache.org/foundation/index.html] (in SVN at link:https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/infrastructure/site/trunk/content/foundation/[https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/infrastructure/site/trunk/content/foundation/])
+- Review appropriate documentation:
+** link:http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#chair[PMC Chair Duties]
+** PMC link:http://www.apache.org/dev/#pmc[documentation]
+** Jakarta link:http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta/RoleOfChair[Chair guide]
+** Incubator link:http://incubator.apache.org/guides/chair.html[Chair guide]
+** Reporting link:http://www.apache.org/foundation/board/calendar.html[calendar]
+- Work out a reporting schedule with the link:/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#board[Board]. For
+the first three months after graduation this will
+be monthly. After that, the project should slot
+into a quarterly reporting schedule. Now is a good time to remove
+the project from the Incubator reporting schedule.
+- Work with the link:http://www.apache.org/dev/index.html#infra[Apache Infrastructure team]
+to set up the top level project infrastructure. Setting up the TLP request can be done by anyone on the new PMC, and should be done via link:https://issues.apache.org/jira/servicedesk/customer/portal/1/create/10[Infra Service Desk]
+- Ensure the PMC is added to the committee-info.txt file at https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/committers/board/committee-info.txt
+There are 3 sections which need to be updated; see instructions in the file, otherwise update it in link:https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/[Whimsy's Roster Tool]
+You may need to get a member to help with this, such as your mentors.
+
+They should then be able to start assembling the new
+link:http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#structure[PMC].
+The starting membership is listed in the
+link:#tlp-resolution[resolution]. However, the Chair of the new project
+needs to ensure that private list is created and the
+membership subscribed.
+
+Members of the new PMC need to:
+- Subscribe to the private mailing list for the project, if they weren't already subscribed from their PPMC days
+- Review appropriate documentation:
+** Apache link:http://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html[PMC Guide]
+** Related link:http://www.apache.org/dev/#pmc[documentation]
+
+Once all this is in place, resources can start to be
+handed over to the new project.
+
+Please continue to hang around the Incubator and help
+new podlings have an easier time than you did!
+
+=== First Steps Outside the Incubator
+
+Graduation is the first step in what is hopefully a long road.
+There are some issues which incubation may not cover.
+
+==== Transferring Resources
+
+When a project graduates, then the infrastructure
+resources (mailing lists, websites, source, etc.) need to
+be transferred from the Incubator to a project's new home.
+
+Although the below checklist is still generally useful, *the infrastructure process has been streamlined*, see
+link:http://www.apache.org/dev/infra-contact#requesting-graduation[requesting graduation].  You might also want to check JIRA checklist tickets for projects that graduated in the last month or two.  This process is known as "TLP Parent Request"
+
+Checklist:
+
+- Update the Incubator status records
+** Like the rest of incubation, graduation is a process. Updating your status records as you progress will enable others to assist.
+** Update the podling link:#notes-status[status page].  All sections should now be filled in
+including *EXIT*. Take some
+time to read carefully since this page
+forms the final public record for
+graduation.
+** Update the Incubator link:http://incubator.apache.org/projects/index.html[status page] to denote the project as "graduating" when you commence,
+then as "graduated" when you are finished. The notes link:#unincubate[below] will assist.
+
+- Source
+** Git repositories will be renamed to drop the `incubator-` prefix, please ensure that developers change their remotes.  After you've created the TLP request, request the rename.
+** SVN repositories will be moved from the incubator to other locations, if you need the move done please raise an infra ticket after the TLP Parent Request.
+** Post an announcement to the development list telling everyone that the repository is about to be moved
+** Post an announcement containing instructions for developers describing how to #svn switch# their workspaces
+** Update site, jenkins, wikis, *pom.xml* and other resources to point to the new repository location.
+
+- Websites
+** Since podlings receive standard domains, no changes are required
+** Once graduated, your website will automatically redirect to remove the *incubator* subdomain
+
+- Mailing lists
+** Mailing lists no longer need to get moved, since podlings are given standard domains.
+** If you are using *podling.incubator.apache.org* format email addresses, please
+** When using Maven: update *pom.xml* for
+the new mailing list address(es). Also update any
+documents on your website that show how to
+subscribe to the lists and/or find archives.
+** Check project-private mailing list membership.  Mentors should be allowed to remain if they wish to do so. The subscriber list should otherwise match that on the resolution. See link:http://www.apache.org/dev/committers.html#mail-moderate[this] and the link:http://www.ezmlm.org/[EZMLM] "Moderator's and Administrator's Manual".
+** Update mail addresses including:
+*** confluence commit messages (see adminstration documentation)
+*** issue tracking messages (see administration documentation)
+*** The chair should have karma to perform these tasks.
+** Double-check that all of your lists have sufficient active link:http://www.apache.org/dev/committers.html#mailing-list-moderators[moderators].
+
+- Issue Tracking
+** Ask infra to move the podling to its own top level category in JIRA, if using JIRA
+
+- Distribution mirrors
+** Raise an infra ticket to create your dist area and move your Incubator dist area to the new location.
+
+==== Final Revision of Podling Incubation Records
+
+When a project has finished its graduation steps, then the incubator resources
+need to be updated to indicate that the project is no
+longer incubating. Here are a few of the items that need
+to be done:
+* Update the svn *incubator/trunk/content/projects/${project}.xml* file to show the project's status.
+* Update the podling summary metadata file, *incubator/trunk/content/podlings.xml* svn file.  See the content/podlings.dtd and follow examples of other recent graduates.  At the beginning of the process, add the "graduating" element.
+** When finished the graduation process, then:
+*** Change the podling status to "graduated";
+*** add the "enddate" attribute to document when the project graduated;
+*** add the "resolution" element (see other project examples);
+*** remove the "graduating" element.
+* After your project has finished reporting to the Incubator, then remove the "reporting" element from that *podlings.xml* file.
+* Ensure that other svn resources for your project have moved to your new home.
+* Review this whole graduation guide.
+* NOTE: Please edit this guide to add missing steps and clarifications.
+
+==== New Responsibilities
+===== Oversight
+
+During the stay in the Incubator, the
+link:/policy/roles_and_responsibilities.html#incubator_project_management_committee_ipmc[Incubator PMC (IPMC)]
+was responsible to the
+link:/policy/roles_and_responsibilities.html#the_board[Board]
+for oversight. A graduated project must now take
+responsibility for its own oversight.
+
+A project needs to ensure that its code base is
+clean from an IP perspective. New committers need to
+recruited, educated and mentored. Quality releases
+need to be cut. Community spirit needs to be maintained
+and conflicts resolved positively. Board reports need
+to be accurate and prompt.
+
+Help is still available but the
+appropriate bodies (infrastructure, community, legal
+and so on) should now be approached directly.
+
+===== Security
+
+Each project needs to be able to manage security issues
+discovered in their code. By their nature, these issues
+need to be dealt with in private. These issues may either
+be dealt with on a separate security list or on the
+private list. Which list is suitable for security issues
+should be noted.
+
+Volunteers need to be found from the
+link:http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#structure[PMC]
+to work with the Apache security team and act as
+first contacts on security matters. The new project
+should make contact with the team soon after graduation
+and not wait for the first issue to be raised.
+
+Projects should adopt a positive attitude towards
+security issues. It is easy to gain a poor reputation
+by mishandling of these issues. There are many people
+at Apache with considerable experience in this area
+so ask first.
+
+===== Stay In Touch
+
+Passing through the incubation process gives a very
+valuable perspective. Please help to improve the process
+by guiding new podlings and by developing improved policy
+and documentation on the link:lists.html#general+at+incubator.apache.org[general] list.


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