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Posted to dev@openoffice.apache.org by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de> on 2012/05/01 00:27:32 UTC

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Am 04/30/2012 11:21 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
>
>
> On 04/30/2012 11:37 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>> Am 04/30/2012 04:53 AM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
>>> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Kay Schenk<ka...@gmail.com>   wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 04/27/2012 01:46 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Andrea Pescetti<pe...@apache.org>
>>>>>    wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Kay Schenk wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please take a look at and give feedback on a test page for the new
>>>>>>> /download/index.html page at:
>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/index_new_dl.**html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, it's a bit strange with lots of nonsense at the top that I
>>>>>>> wanted
>>>>>>> you to see, but will of course go away in production.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The page is nice, but it's the concept that leaves me dubious.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We have another thread
>>>>>> http://comments.gmane.org/**gmane.comp.apache.incubator.**
>>>>>> ooo.devel/16219<http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.incubator.ooo.devel/16219>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> where there seems to be consensus towards a solution that:
>>>>>> 1) Uses SF (and possibly Apache) for the web-based downloads
>>>>>> 2) Does not phase out MirrorBrain, and uses it for the updates (i.e.,
>>>>>> downloads initiated by OpenOffice with the "Look for updates"
>>>>>> function)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> That's what I understand as well.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> oh -- OK. I thought we were going to use MirrorBrain for 3.3 DLs as well
>>>> -- i.e. what Marcus will be working on. I know right now, we're using
>>>> SourceForge for that though.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>    The "possibly Apache" in 1) is due to the fact that I haven't
>>>>> understood
>>>>>> yet
>>>>>> what technology Apache will be using and if Apache will distribute
>>>>>> only
>>>>>> sources or binaries too (it's obvious that we as a project will
>>>>>> release
>>>>>> sources and binaries, but I'm not 100% sure that Apache wants to put
>>>>>> binaries on its mirrors too: I think so).
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Well it's not all that complicated actually. Take a look at the security
>>>> patch info page...
>>>>
>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/**security/cves/CVE-2012-0037.**html<http://www.openoffice.org/security/cves/CVE-2012-0037.html>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> and you can see what the link looks like.
>>>>
>>>> Actual source/binaries are, for us, put in:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.apache.org/dist/**incubator/ooo/<http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This said, you could be right in having issues tracking down problems.
>>>> Right now, the SF setup is more "user friendly" in my opinion. I
>>>> thought we
>>>> were *required* to use Apache for downloads, but maybe we've gotten a
>>>> dispensation for this release. Though I didn't think is was 100%
>>>> someplace
>>>> else. I admit I haven't kept up as much as I should have though.
>>>>
>>>> The other issue is how will it LOOK to users -- one moment they may
>>>> be one
>>>> place; if they happen to do a shift-reload, they may go someplace
>>>> else with
>>>> an entirely different look and feel.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Fact is, we should avoid the random selection as much as possible,
>>>>>> mainly to
>>>>>> be able to quickly identify problems, and you will see details in that
>>>>>> thread. The cleaner separation we can get, the better.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> So how about something very simple:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) AOO 3.4 downloads use SourceForge by default from the
>>>>> /download/index.html page.  Just like they are doing today.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This WOULD make things a lot simpler.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> But we also have a links there that point to Apache mirrors for:
>>>>>
>>>>> a) Hashes and detached signatures
>>>>> b) source distribution
>>>>> c) a link to the full release tree
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well, SF will need to implement in their sidebar or the main page for
>>>> openoffice.org they have, right?
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, good conversation.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> In other words, no rolling the dice, noting fancy.  100% of normal
>>>>> users will download from SF.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) When we enable the automated updates, in a week or two, then we
>>>>> decide what we want to do.  Maybe we do it via SF.  Maybe MirrorBrain.
>>>>>    Maybe a mix,
>>>>>
>>>>>    On the other side, release time is approaching and I can only hope
>>>>> that
>>>>>> talks between Peter Poeml (MirrorBrain author) and Apache Infra,
>>>>>> that had
>>>>>> started on this list, are progressing now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> I think it is too late for any of those talks to influence how we deal
>>>>> with AOO 3.4 initial downloads.  But maybe the update downloads in a
>>>>> couple of weeks.
>>>>>
>>>>> -Rob
>>>>>
>>>>>    Regards,
>>>>>>    Andrea.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
>>>> ------------
>>>> MzK
>>>>
>>>> "Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
>>>>    And life has a funny way of helping you out
>>>>    Helping you out."
>>>>                              -- "Ironic", Alanis Morissette
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Ok, I am hoping this will be about the last, final review on the new
>>> download/index.html --
>>>
>>> prototype at:
>>>
>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html
>>>
>>> This assumes SourceForge ONLY, and that the  3.4 pre-built client packs
>>> will be in the hiearchy as the 3.3 is -- stable, etc.
>>>
>>> Naturally NONE of the links will work until something gets out there and
>>> there is a TON of alerts which I will of course eventually comment out.
>>
>> I've tested the following:
>>
>> 1.
>> Linux with Firefox -->  Linux x86-64 RPM de -->  the text in the pop-ups
>> makes sense -->  OK
>>
>> 2.
>> Windows XP with MSIE -->  error -->  the detailed error message says:
>>
>> Line:  104
>> Char:  1
>> Error: Identifier, string or number expected
>> Code:  0
>> URL:   http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html
>>
>> Line:  286
>> Char:  2
>> Error: 'languages' is not defined
>> Code:  0
>> URL:   http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html
>>
>> -->  finally only a blue box for the extensions
>>
>>
>
> hmmm...well I shouldn't have changed anything that caused this, but
> definitely NOT good. OK, thanks. What are you showing for your
> "language" -- i.e. according to your UA string?

Good that you've asked. I remember that we have this webpage:

http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html

So, I've updated it a bit and nowI get the following browser data:



window.location.href 	http://ooo-site.apache.org/download/test/analyze.html
navigator.platform 	Linux x86_64
navigator.platform.toLowerCase() 	linux x86_64
navigator.userAgent 	Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:2.0.1) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/4.0.1
navigator.userAgent.toLowerCase()	mozilla/5.0 (x11; linux x86_64; 
rv:2.0.1) gecko/20100101 firefox/4.0.1
navigator.language 	de-DE
navigator.userLanguage 	undefined
navigator.systemLanguage	undefined
navigator.javaEnabled()	Yes



window.location.href  http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html
navigator.platform  Win32
navigator.platform.toLowerCase()  win32
navigator.userAgent  Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; 
SV1)
navigator.userAgent.toLowerCase() mozilla/4.0 (compatible; msie 6.0; 
windows nt 5.1; sv1)
navigator.language  undefined
navigator.userLanguage  de
navigator.systemLanguage de
navigator.javaEnabled() Yes


It seems that on Linux the "navigator.language" is set. On Windows this 
is not set but the "navigator.userLanguage" and 
"navigator.systemLanguage". All 3 are handled in "download.js" (or in 
your new "download_new_dl.js").

Maybe it's helpful to output some debug messages around this area?

@All:
Can others please test on Windows with MSIE and Firefox? I really hope 
it's just my Windows XP (in a Virtualbox VM).

Marcus


Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@googlemail.com>.
On 5/6/12 7:38 PM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote:
> Hi Jürgen,
>
> On Sun, May 06, 2012 at 07:14:14PM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
>>> I can see that for localized builds the files are missing consistently
>>> (the already stated Windows full install and Linux x86-64 full install
>>> combination), except for en-GB, here all Linux and Linux x86-64 builds
>>> are missing.
>>
>> yes I have noticed as well, en-GB is completely missing. Either we
>> drop en-GB completely or we drop it for Linux.
>>
>> That was probably a communication error but I don't see it as critical.
>
> I may have missed when you told what languages to build, I was building
> the same set of languages we've been building so far for the Dev's
> Snapshots https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/sL2oAQ
> that is
> --with-lang="ar cs de en-US es fi fr gl hu it ja nl pt-BR ru zh-CN zh-TW"

It was my fault, don't worry. As I mentioned I have already dropped it 
from dist. We will include it for 3.4.1.


Juergen

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by Ariel Constenla-Haile <ar...@apache.org>.
Hi Jürgen,

On Sun, May 06, 2012 at 07:14:14PM +0200, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> >I can see that for localized builds the files are missing consistently
> >(the already stated Windows full install and Linux x86-64 full install
> >combination), except for en-GB, here all Linux and Linux x86-64 builds
> >are missing.
> 
> yes I have noticed as well, en-GB is completely missing. Either we
> drop en-GB completely or we drop it for Linux.
> 
> That was probably a communication error but I don't see it as critical.

I may have missed when you told what languages to build, I was building
the same set of languages we've been building so far for the Dev's
Snapshots https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/x/sL2oAQ
that is 
--with-lang="ar cs de en-US es fi fr gl hu it ja nl pt-BR ru zh-CN zh-TW"


Regards
-- 
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 6:14 AM, Marcus (OOo) <ma...@wtnet.de> wrote:

> Am 05/05/2012 12:24 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:
>
>  On 5/5/12 4:03 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>
>>> Am 05/05/2012 12:08 AM, schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On May 4, 2012, at 1:22 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Am 05/04/2012 06:27 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 12:50 AM, Jürgen Schmidt
>>>>>> <jo...@googlemail.com>**wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have tested http://ooo-site.staging.**apac**
>>>>>>> he.org/download/test/** <http://apache.org/download/test/**>
>>>>>>> index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-**site.staging.apache.org/**
>>>>>>> download/test/index_new_dl.**html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>> >on
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> MacOS 10.7.3 with Firefox 12.0 and Safari 5.1.5
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In both cases the click on the download butotn give me the correct
>>>>>>> download, perfect ;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> YAY!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Some questions as release manager:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - the link "Searching for another version? Get all platforms,
>>>>>>> languages,
>>>>>>> language packs" guide me on an old page. Do we have the new page
>>>>>>> with the
>>>>>>> reduced number of released languages already in place?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> yes, we do...it is not linked in and will need to retaing its
>>>>>> current name
>>>>>> but you can see the new version at:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/other_new_dl.**html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/other_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I've created yesterday evening a first draft. So, please don't see it
>>>>> as written in stone. And some links are not yet working.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>  Does "source archives" on this page provide links to our source
>>>>>>> release?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> see above page...
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, there is a little section to provide links to the source files
>>>>> (should be from Apache only).
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is what should be from the Apache Mirrors and not /dist/. You can
>>>> use the cgi url that Joe has provided.
>>>>
>>>> (This is item no 10.)
>>>>
>>>> Let me know if you would like me to do these changes on the new other
>>>> page.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I've tried to use the aoo-closer.cgi script in the URL. But it doesn't
>>> work yet. Do you see anything incorrect in the URL?
>>>
>>
>> http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-**closer.cgi/incubator/ooo/3.4.**
>> 0/source/aoo-3.4.0-incubating-**src.zip[.asc|.md5|.sha1|.**sha512]<http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-closer.cgi/incubator/ooo/3.4.0/source/aoo-3.4.0-incubating-src.zip%5B.asc%7C.md5%7C.sha1%7C.sha512%5D>
>>
>>
>> http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-**closer.cgi/incubator/ooo/3.4.**
>> 0/source/aoo-3.4.0-incubating-**src.tar.gz[.asc|.md5|.sha1|.**sha512]<http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-closer.cgi/incubator/ooo/3.4.0/source/aoo-3.4.0-incubating-src.tar.gz%5B.asc%7C.md5%7C.sha1%7C.sha512%5D>
>>
>>
>> http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-**closer.cgi/incubator/ooo/3.4.**
>> 0/source/aoo-3.4.0-incubating-**src.tar.bz2[.asc|.md5|.sha1|.**sha512]<http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-closer.cgi/incubator/ooo/3.4.0/source/aoo-3.4.0-incubating-src.tar.bz2%5B.asc%7C.md5%7C.sha1%7C.sha512%5D>
>>
>
> Ah, it's "3.4.0" instead of "3.4". Thanks Juergen.
>
> I don't get a download file but a webpage with a choice of many links.
> When clicking on one I get the download. I think this is intended, right?


yes...this is what will happen...a list of mirrors from which the user
chooses.


>
>
>  - the link "Release Notes"
>>>>>>> Do we have it in place as html file that fits in here? I know we
>>>>>>> have it
>>>>>>> in the wiki and there as html as well. But is the plan here?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just sent out a note about this. We have one in development but
>>>>>> it's not
>>>>>> where it should be.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  - the "MD5 checksums"
>>>>>>> I have read that we will probably change it to "Signatures and
>>>>>>> Hashes". Do
>>>>>>> we have the page/script behind it?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Or should we simply provide 4 links ASC, MD5, SHA1, SHA512 with a
>>>>>>> simple
>>>>>>> script appending the correct extension. Everything else should be
>>>>>>> in place
>>>>>>> already.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is a BIG unanswered question at the moment-- please see the
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Distributing AOO 3.4: The 22 things we need to do before we announce"
>>>>>>
>>>>>> thread...Rob's last comments...
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I can create also a webpage with links to all checksums. Shouldn't be
>>>>> a problem.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Link to the signatures on /dist/. These are the trusted source. The
>>>> page should explain how to verify the sigs. There are many examples.
>>>>
>>>
>>> The checksums file is ready:
>>>
>>> http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**
>>> checksums_new_dl.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/checksums_new_dl.html>
>>>
>>> Just the part "How to use checksums?" needs to be filled with text. I'll
>>> do this tomorrow.
>>>
>>
>> you missed the *.asc signature files that are even more important to
>> check the files.
>>
>
> OK, I've added also links to the ASC files.
>
>
>  As I mentioned in another email, we could change the link
>>
>> "MD5 checksum" with 4 links ASC MD5 SHA1 SHA512
>>
>> The download button has all information in place to create the package
>> name and Url part.
>>
>> We have to use simply
>> http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-**closer.cgi/incubator/ooo/<http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-closer.cgi/incubator/ooo/>+ <Url part> +
>> <packagename> + [.asc|.md5|.sha1|.sha512]
>>
>> to guide everything on the Apache mirrors
>>
>
> I understood. You want some links directly in the green box. OK, no
> problem. Let's see how fast this could be implemented.
>
> However, the checksum files have to come directly from the /dist directory
> and not via aoo-closer.cgi from mirrors.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Marcus
>
>
>  Sorry if my questions are already answered somewhere, it's easy to
>>>>>>> miss
>>>>>>> some mails at the moment.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> No problem...there's a LOT going on...
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> To be honest, I think I've lost a litle bit the plot. I don't know
>>>>> exactly which webpages we want, which links on them, to which
>>>>> mirrors. And what are the exceptions. ;-(
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sorry.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> So, I've updated our Wikipage (see the bottom) to get the overview
>>>>> back. Even if this is not relevant for a longer time, it should be
>>>>> helpful for the next weeks:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/**confluence/display/OOOUSERS/**
>>>>> AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks<https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> To the best of my knowledge, so please make changes if something is
>>>>> wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I changed the source over to the Apache Mirrors.
>>>>
>>>
>>> OK
>>>
>>>  I think that the SDKs should be on the Apache mirrors, but then I can
>>>> also see good reasons to leave it alone.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I have it now for the SF mirrors. However, no problem to change the URLs
>>> to ASF mirrors.
>>>
>>> Marcus
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  I want to mark item 10 done when ROb is done editing.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Dave
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>> Marcus
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  On 5/1/12 6:22 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 3:46 AM, Regina
>>>>>>>> Henschel<rb...@t-online.de>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi Kay,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Kay Schenk schrieb:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regina--
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for all this work. Please see comments inline below...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Regina
>>>>>>>>>> Henschel<rb.henschel@t-online.***
>>>>>>>>>> ***
>>>>>>>>>> de<rb...@t-online.de>>****wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> my test results are below, all on German WinXP Home, SP3.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> [..]
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  With Opera 11.62
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  =============================
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Calling
>>>>>>>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.******apac**he.org/download/test/**<****
>>>>>>>>>>> http://apache.org/download/****test/**<http://apache.org/download/**test/**>
>>>>>>>>>>> <http://apache.org/**download/test/**<http://apache.org/download/test/**>
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-******site.staging.apache.org/**
>>>>>>>>>>> download/test/index_new_dl.******html<http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>>>>> apache.org/download/test/****index_new_dl.html<http://apache.org/download/test/**index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>>>>> <http://ooo-**site.staging.apache.org/**
>>>>>>>>>>> download/test/index_new_dl.**html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> The green download box is missing totally.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Calling
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/********download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/******download/test/analyze.html>
>>>>>>>>>>> <h**ttp://www.openoffice.org/******download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/****download/test/analyze.html>
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <htt**p://www.openoffice.org/******download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/****download/test/analyze.html>
>>>>>>>>>>> <**http://www.openoffice.org/****download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze.html>
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  <htt**p://www.openoffice.org/******download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/****download/test/analyze.html>
>>>>>>>>>>> <**http://www.openoffice.org/****download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze.html>
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> <ht**tp://www.openoffice.org/****download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze.html>
>>>>>>>>>>> <ht**tp://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  results in
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> navigator.platform: Win32
>>>>>>>>>>> navigator.UserAgent: Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 5.1; U; de)
>>>>>>>>>>> Presto/2.10.229
>>>>>>>>>>> Version/11.62
>>>>>>>>>>> navigator.UserAgent lower case: opera/9.80 (windows nt 5.1; u;
>>>>>>>>>>> de)
>>>>>>>>>>> presto/2.10.229 version/11.62
>>>>>>>>>>> navigator.UserAgent lower case: -1
>>>>>>>>>>> getLink(): undefined
>>>>>>>>>>> getPlatform(): Windows
>>>>>>>>>>> getLanguage(): German
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> window.location.href http://www.openoffice.org/**
>>>>>>>>>>> download/test/analyze.html<****htt**p://www.openoffice.org/**
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> download/test/analyze.html<**htt**p://www.openoffice.org/**
>>>>>>>>>>> download/test/analyze.html<htt**p://www.openoffice.org/**
>>>>>>>>>>> download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> navigator.platform Win32
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> navigator.platform.********toLowerCase() win32
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> navigator.userAgent Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 5.1; U; de)
>>>>>>>>>>> Presto/2.10.229
>>>>>>>>>>> Version/11.62
>>>>>>>>>>> navigator.userAgent.********toLowerCase() opera/9.80 (windows nt
>>>>>>>>>>> 5.1;
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> u;
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> de) presto/2.10.229 version/11.62
>>>>>>>>>>> navigator.language de
>>>>>>>>>>> navigator.userLanguage de
>>>>>>>>>>> navigator.systemLanguage undefined
>>>>>>>>>>> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> OK -- well this is NOT good, but what kind of results do you
>>>>>>>>>>> get with
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  Opera
>>>>>>>>>> for:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/******download/legacy/<http://www.openoffice.org/****download/legacy/>
>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.**openoffice.org/**download/**legacy/<http://www.openoffice.org/**download/legacy/>
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.**openoffice.org/**download/**legacy/<http://openoffice.org/download/**legacy/>
>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.**openoffice.org/download/**legacy/<http://www.openoffice.org/download/legacy/>
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> same thing or ????
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Yes, same error. The green box is missing.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> OK -- well I feel a little better at least. I don't know what it
>>>>>>>> is about
>>>>>>>> JS and Opera but I know when Marcus and I were working on
>>>>>>>> something a few
>>>>>>>> years ago, we had a LOT of problems with Opera.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Despite the fact that Opera is supposed to be the most W3 compliant
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> browser, I know folks have had issues with it...
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [..]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I see JavaScript errors in the 'Fehlerkonsole', besides some
>>>>>>>>> messages
>>>>>>>>> about CSS, copy&paste below.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  yeah-- nothing fatal... OK
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Kind regards
>>>>>>>>> Regina
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [01.05.2012 12:44:46] CSS - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>>>>> apache.org/css/ooo.css<http://****ooo-site.staging.apache.org/****<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/**>
>>>>>>>>> css/ooo.css<http://ooo-site.**staging.apache.org/css/ooo.css<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/css/ooo.css>
>>>>>>>>> **>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Linked-in stylesheet
>>>>>>>>> -moz-border-radius is an unknown property
>>>>>>>>> Line 276:
>>>>>>>>> -moz-border-radius: 0 0 10px 0;
>>>>>>>>> ---------------------^
>>>>>>>>> [01.05.2012 12:44:46] CSS - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>>>>> apache.org/css/ooo.css<http://****ooo-site.staging.apache.org/****<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/**>
>>>>>>>>> css/ooo.css<http://ooo-site.**staging.apache.org/css/ooo.css<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/css/ooo.css>
>>>>>>>>> **>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Linked-in stylesheet
>>>>>>>>> -moz-border-radius is an unknown property
>>>>>>>>> Line 328:
>>>>>>>>> -moz-border-radius: 0 10px 10px 0;
>>>>>>>>> ---------------------^
>>>>>>>>> [01.05.2012 12:44:46] CSS - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>>>>> apache.org/css/ooo.css<http://****ooo-site.staging.apache.org/****<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/**>
>>>>>>>>> css/ooo.css<http://ooo-site.**staging.apache.org/css/ooo.css<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/css/ooo.css>
>>>>>>>>> **>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Linked-in stylesheet
>>>>>>>>> Selector syntax error
>>>>>>>>> Line 470:
>>>>>>>>> img { border: 0px; }
>>>>>>>>> -----^
>>>>>>>>> [25.01.1970 07:34:22] JavaScript - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>>>>> apache.org/download/test/******download_new_dl.js<http://apache.org/download/test/****download_new_dl.js>
>>>>>>>>> <http://**apache.org/download/test/****download_new_dl.js<http://apache.org/download/test/**download_new_dl.js>
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <http://ooo-**site.staging.**apache.org/**download/test/**
>>>>>>>>> download_new_dl.**<http://site.staging.apache.org/**download/test/download_new_dl.**>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> js<http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**
>>>>>>>>> download_new_dl.js<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/download_new_dl.js>
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Linked script compilation
>>>>>>>>> Syntax error at line 883 while loading: expected ';', got '304'
>>>>>>>>> HTTP/1.1 304 Not Modified
>>>>>>>>> ---------^
>>>>>>>>> [25.03.1970 11:30:57] JavaScript - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>>>>> apache.org/download/test/******languages_new_dl.js<http://apache.org/download/test/****languages_new_dl.js>
>>>>>>>>> <http://**apache.org/download/test/****languages_new_dl.js<http://apache.org/download/test/**languages_new_dl.js>
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <http://**ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/**download/test/**
>>>>>>>>> languages_new_**<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/**download/test/languages_new_**>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> dl.js<http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**
>>>>>>>>> languages_new_dl.js<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/languages_new_dl.js>
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Linked script compilation
>>>>>>>>> Syntax error at line 104 while loading: expected ';', got '200'
>>>>>>>>> HTTP/1.1 200 OK
>>>>>>>>> ---------^
>>>>>>>>> [25.03.1970 11:30:57] JavaScript - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>>>>> apache.org/download/test/******download_new_mirrorbrain.js<http://apache.org/download/test/****download_new_mirrorbrain.js>
>>>>>>>>> <ht**tp://apache.org/download/test/****download_new_mirrorbrain.js<http://apache.org/download/test/**download_new_mirrorbrain.js>
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <ht**tp://ooo-site.staging.**apache.**org/download/test/**
>>>>>>>>> download_**
>>>>>>>>> new_mirrorbrain.js<http://ooo-**site.staging.apache.org/**
>>>>>>>>> download/test/download_new_**mirrorbrain.js<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/download_new_mirrorbrain.js>
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Linked script compilation
>>>>>>>>> Syntax error at line 595 while loading: expected ';', got '304'
>>>>>>>>> HTTP/1.1 304 Not Modified
>>>>>>>>> ---------^
>>>>>>>>> [01.05.2012 12:44:47] JavaScript - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>>>>> apache.org/download/scripts/******entourage.js<http://apache.org/download/scripts/****entourage.js>
>>>>>>>>> <http://apache.**org/download/scripts/****entourage.js<http://apache.org/download/scripts/**entourage.js>
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <http://ooo-site.**staging.**apache.org/download/**scripts/**
>>>>>>>>> entourage.js<http://staging.apache.org/download/**scripts/entourage.js>
>>>>>>>>> <http://ooo-site.**staging.apache.org/download/**
>>>>>>>>> scripts/entourage.js<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/scripts/entourage.js>
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Das verlinkte Skript wurde nicht geladen.
>>>>>>>>> [01.05.2012 12:44:47] CSS - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>>>>> apache.org/download/test/******index_new_dl.html<http://apache.org/download/test/****index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>>> <http://**apache.org/download/test/****index_new_dl.html<http://apache.org/download/test/**index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <http://ooo-**site.staging.**apache.org/**download/test/**
>>>>>>>>> index_new_dl.**<http://site.staging.apache.org/**download/test/index_new_dl.**>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> html<http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**
>>>>>>>>> index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> HTML style attribute
>>>>>>>>> relative is an unknown property
>>>>>>>>> Line 1:
>>>>>>>>> relative; margin: 14px 0 0 0; height: 24px;
>>>>>>>>> ---------^
>>>>>>>>> [01.05.2012 12:44:47] CSS - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>>>>> apache.org/download/test/******index_new_dl.html<http://apache.org/download/test/****index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>>> <http://**apache.org/download/test/****index_new_dl.html<http://apache.org/download/test/**index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <http://ooo-**site.staging.**apache.org/**download/test/**
>>>>>>>>> index_new_dl.**<http://site.staging.apache.org/**download/test/index_new_dl.**>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> html<http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**
>>>>>>>>> index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> HTML style attribute
>>>>>>>>> Declaration syntax error
>>>>>>>>> Line 1:
>>>>>>>>> relative; margin: 14px 0 0 0; height: 24px;
>>>>>>>>> ---------^
>>>>>>>>> [18.03.1970 15:40:44] JavaScript - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>>>>> apache.org/download/test/******index_new_dl.html<http://apache.org/download/test/****index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>>> <http://**apache.org/download/test/****index_new_dl.html<http://apache.org/download/test/**index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <http://ooo-**site.staging.**apache.org/**download/test/**
>>>>>>>>> index_new_dl.**<http://site.staging.apache.org/**download/test/index_new_dl.**>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> html<http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**
>>>>>>>>> index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Inline script thread
>>>>>>>>> Uncaught exception: ReferenceError: Undefined variable: getLink
>>>>>>>>> Error thrown at line 3, column 2 in http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>>>>> apache.org/download/test/******index_new_dl.html<http://apache.org/download/test/****index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>>> <http://**apache.org/download/test/****index_new_dl.html<http://apache.org/download/test/**index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <http://ooo-**site.staging.**apache.org/**download/test/**
>>>>>>>>> index_new_dl.**<http://site.staging.apache.org/**download/test/index_new_dl.**>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> html<http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**
>>>>>>>>> index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>> LINK = getLink( VERSION, MIRROR, SCHEMA );
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks again for you help...moving on to other things now...still
>>>>>>>> much to
>>>>>>>> do
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>


-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MzK

"Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
 And life has a funny way of helping you out
 Helping you out."
                            -- "Ironic", Alanis Morissette

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 05/05/2012 12:24 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:
> On 5/5/12 4:03 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>> Am 05/05/2012 12:08 AM, schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>
>>> On May 4, 2012, at 1:22 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>>
>>>> Am 05/04/2012 06:27 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
>>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 12:50 AM, Jürgen Schmidt
>>>>> <jo...@googlemail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have tested http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**
>>>>>> index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>on
>>>>>>
>>>>>> MacOS 10.7.3 with Firefox 12.0 and Safari 5.1.5
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In both cases the click on the download butotn give me the correct
>>>>>> download, perfect ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> YAY!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some questions as release manager:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - the link "Searching for another version? Get all platforms,
>>>>>> languages,
>>>>>> language packs" guide me on an old page. Do we have the new page
>>>>>> with the
>>>>>> reduced number of released languages already in place?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> yes, we do...it is not linked in and will need to retaing its
>>>>> current name
>>>>> but you can see the new version at:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/other_new_dl.html
>>>>
>>>> I've created yesterday evening a first draft. So, please don't see it
>>>> as written in stone. And some links are not yet working.
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Does "source archives" on this page provide links to our source
>>>>>> release?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> see above page...
>>>>
>>>> Yes, there is a little section to provide links to the source files
>>>> (should be from Apache only).
>>>
>>> This is what should be from the Apache Mirrors and not /dist/. You can
>>> use the cgi url that Joe has provided.
>>>
>>> (This is item no 10.)
>>>
>>> Let me know if you would like me to do these changes on the new other
>>> page.
>>
>> I've tried to use the aoo-closer.cgi script in the URL. But it doesn't
>> work yet. Do you see anything incorrect in the URL?
>
> http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-closer.cgi/incubator/ooo/3.4.0/source/aoo-3.4.0-incubating-src.zip[.asc|.md5|.sha1|.sha512]
>
>
> http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-closer.cgi/incubator/ooo/3.4.0/source/aoo-3.4.0-incubating-src.tar.gz[.asc|.md5|.sha1|.sha512]
>
>
> http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-closer.cgi/incubator/ooo/3.4.0/source/aoo-3.4.0-incubating-src.tar.bz2[.asc|.md5|.sha1|.sha512]

Ah, it's "3.4.0" instead of "3.4". Thanks Juergen.

I don't get a download file but a webpage with a choice of many links. 
When clicking on one I get the download. I think this is intended, right?

>>>>>> - the link "Release Notes"
>>>>>> Do we have it in place as html file that fits in here? I know we
>>>>>> have it
>>>>>> in the wiki and there as html as well. But is the plan here?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I just sent out a note about this. We have one in development but
>>>>> it's not
>>>>> where it should be.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> - the "MD5 checksums"
>>>>>> I have read that we will probably change it to "Signatures and
>>>>>> Hashes". Do
>>>>>> we have the page/script behind it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or should we simply provide 4 links ASC, MD5, SHA1, SHA512 with a
>>>>>> simple
>>>>>> script appending the correct extension. Everything else should be
>>>>>> in place
>>>>>> already.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a BIG unanswered question at the moment-- please see the
>>>>>
>>>>> "Distributing AOO 3.4: The 22 things we need to do before we announce"
>>>>>
>>>>> thread...Rob's last comments...
>>>>
>>>> I can create also a webpage with links to all checksums. Shouldn't be
>>>> a problem.
>>>
>>> Link to the signatures on /dist/. These are the trusted source. The
>>> page should explain how to verify the sigs. There are many examples.
>>
>> The checksums file is ready:
>>
>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/checksums_new_dl.html
>>
>> Just the part "How to use checksums?" needs to be filled with text. I'll
>> do this tomorrow.
>
> you missed the *.asc signature files that are even more important to
> check the files.

OK, I've added also links to the ASC files.

> As I mentioned in another email, we could change the link
>
> "MD5 checksum" with 4 links ASC MD5 SHA1 SHA512
>
> The download button has all information in place to create the package
> name and Url part.
>
> We have to use simply
> http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-closer.cgi/incubator/ooo/ + <Url part> +
> <packagename> + [.asc|.md5|.sha1|.sha512]
>
> to guide everything on the Apache mirrors

I understood. You want some links directly in the green box. OK, no 
problem. Let's see how fast this could be implemented.

However, the checksum files have to come directly from the /dist 
directory and not via aoo-closer.cgi from mirrors.

Thanks for your help.

Marcus

>>>>>> Sorry if my questions are already answered somewhere, it's easy to
>>>>>> miss
>>>>>> some mails at the moment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No problem...there's a LOT going on...
>>>>
>>>> To be honest, I think I've lost a litle bit the plot. I don't know
>>>> exactly which webpages we want, which links on them, to which
>>>> mirrors. And what are the exceptions. ;-(
>>>
>>> Sorry.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> So, I've updated our Wikipage (see the bottom) to get the overview
>>>> back. Even if this is not relevant for a longer time, it should be
>>>> helpful for the next weeks:
>>>>
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> To the best of my knowledge, so please make changes if something is
>>>> wrong.
>>>
>>> I changed the source over to the Apache Mirrors.
>>
>> OK
>>
>>> I think that the SDKs should be on the Apache mirrors, but then I can
>>> also see good reasons to leave it alone.
>>
>> I have it now for the SF mirrors. However, no problem to change the URLs
>> to ASF mirrors.
>>
>> Marcus
>>
>>
>>
>>> I want to mark item 10 done when ROb is done editing.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Marcus
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/1/12 6:22 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 3:46 AM, Regina
>>>>>>> Henschel<rb...@t-online.de>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Kay,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kay Schenk schrieb:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regina--
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for all this work. Please see comments inline below...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Regina
>>>>>>>>> Henschel<rb.henschel@t-online.*
>>>>>>>>> ***
>>>>>>>>> de<rb...@t-online.de>>**wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> my test results are below, all on German WinXP Home, SP3.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [..]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> With Opera 11.62
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> =============================
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Calling
>>>>>>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.****apac**he.org/download/test/**<**
>>>>>>>>>> http://apache.org/download/**test/**<http://apache.org/download/test/**>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-****site.staging.apache.org/**
>>>>>>>>>> download/test/index_new_dl.****html<http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>>>>>> apache.org/download/test/**index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The green download box is missing totally.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Calling
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/******download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/****download/test/analyze.html>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <htt**p://www.openoffice.org/****download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze.html>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <htt**p://www.openoffice.org/****download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze.html>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <ht**tp://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> results in
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> navigator.platform: Win32
>>>>>>>>>> navigator.UserAgent: Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 5.1; U; de)
>>>>>>>>>> Presto/2.10.229
>>>>>>>>>> Version/11.62
>>>>>>>>>> navigator.UserAgent lower case: opera/9.80 (windows nt 5.1; u;
>>>>>>>>>> de)
>>>>>>>>>> presto/2.10.229 version/11.62
>>>>>>>>>> navigator.UserAgent lower case: -1
>>>>>>>>>> getLink(): undefined
>>>>>>>>>> getPlatform(): Windows
>>>>>>>>>> getLanguage(): German
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> window.location.href http://www.openoffice.org/**
>>>>>>>>>> download/test/analyze.html<**htt**p://www.openoffice.org/**
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> download/test/analyze.html<htt**p://www.openoffice.org/**
>>>>>>>>>> download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> navigator.platform Win32
>>>>>>>>>> navigator.platform.******toLowerCase() win32
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> navigator.userAgent Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 5.1; U; de)
>>>>>>>>>> Presto/2.10.229
>>>>>>>>>> Version/11.62
>>>>>>>>>> navigator.userAgent.******toLowerCase() opera/9.80 (windows nt
>>>>>>>>>> 5.1;
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> u;
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> de) presto/2.10.229 version/11.62
>>>>>>>>>> navigator.language de
>>>>>>>>>> navigator.userLanguage de
>>>>>>>>>> navigator.systemLanguage undefined
>>>>>>>>>> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> OK -- well this is NOT good, but what kind of results do you
>>>>>>>>>> get with
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Opera
>>>>>>>>> for:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/****download/legacy/<http://www.openoffice.org/**download/legacy/>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.**openoffice.org/download/**legacy/<http://www.openoffice.org/download/legacy/>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> same thing or ????
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, same error. The green box is missing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK -- well I feel a little better at least. I don't know what it
>>>>>>> is about
>>>>>>> JS and Opera but I know when Marcus and I were working on
>>>>>>> something a few
>>>>>>> years ago, we had a LOT of problems with Opera.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Despite the fact that Opera is supposed to be the most W3 compliant
>>>>>>>>> browser, I know folks have had issues with it...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [..]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I see JavaScript errors in the 'Fehlerkonsole', besides some
>>>>>>>> messages
>>>>>>>> about CSS, copy&paste below.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> yeah-- nothing fatal... OK
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>>>> Regina
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [01.05.2012 12:44:46] CSS - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>>>> apache.org/css/ooo.css<http://**ooo-site.staging.apache.org/**
>>>>>>>> css/ooo.css<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/css/ooo.css>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Linked-in stylesheet
>>>>>>>> -moz-border-radius is an unknown property
>>>>>>>> Line 276:
>>>>>>>> -moz-border-radius: 0 0 10px 0;
>>>>>>>> ---------------------^
>>>>>>>> [01.05.2012 12:44:46] CSS - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>>>> apache.org/css/ooo.css<http://**ooo-site.staging.apache.org/**
>>>>>>>> css/ooo.css<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/css/ooo.css>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Linked-in stylesheet
>>>>>>>> -moz-border-radius is an unknown property
>>>>>>>> Line 328:
>>>>>>>> -moz-border-radius: 0 10px 10px 0;
>>>>>>>> ---------------------^
>>>>>>>> [01.05.2012 12:44:46] CSS - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>>>> apache.org/css/ooo.css<http://**ooo-site.staging.apache.org/**
>>>>>>>> css/ooo.css<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/css/ooo.css>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Linked-in stylesheet
>>>>>>>> Selector syntax error
>>>>>>>> Line 470:
>>>>>>>> img { border: 0px; }
>>>>>>>> -----^
>>>>>>>> [25.01.1970 07:34:22] JavaScript - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>>>> apache.org/download/test/****download_new_dl.js<http://apache.org/download/test/**download_new_dl.js>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <http://ooo-**site.staging.apache.org/**download/test/download_new_dl.**
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> js<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/download_new_dl.js>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Linked script compilation
>>>>>>>> Syntax error at line 883 while loading: expected ';', got '304'
>>>>>>>> HTTP/1.1 304 Not Modified
>>>>>>>> ---------^
>>>>>>>> [25.03.1970 11:30:57] JavaScript - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>>>> apache.org/download/test/****languages_new_dl.js<http://apache.org/download/test/**languages_new_dl.js>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <http://**ooo-site.staging.apache.org/**download/test/languages_new_**
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> dl.js<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/languages_new_dl.js>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Linked script compilation
>>>>>>>> Syntax error at line 104 while loading: expected ';', got '200'
>>>>>>>> HTTP/1.1 200 OK
>>>>>>>> ---------^
>>>>>>>> [25.03.1970 11:30:57] JavaScript - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>>>> apache.org/download/test/****download_new_mirrorbrain.js<http://apache.org/download/test/**download_new_mirrorbrain.js>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <ht**tp://ooo-site.staging.apache.**org/download/test/download_**
>>>>>>>> new_mirrorbrain.js<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/download_new_mirrorbrain.js>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Linked script compilation
>>>>>>>> Syntax error at line 595 while loading: expected ';', got '304'
>>>>>>>> HTTP/1.1 304 Not Modified
>>>>>>>> ---------^
>>>>>>>> [01.05.2012 12:44:47] JavaScript - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>>>> apache.org/download/scripts/****entourage.js<http://apache.org/download/scripts/**entourage.js>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <http://ooo-site.**staging.apache.org/download/**scripts/entourage.js<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/scripts/entourage.js>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Das verlinkte Skript wurde nicht geladen.
>>>>>>>> [01.05.2012 12:44:47] CSS - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>>>> apache.org/download/test/****index_new_dl.html<http://apache.org/download/test/**index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <http://ooo-**site.staging.apache.org/**download/test/index_new_dl.**
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> HTML style attribute
>>>>>>>> relative is an unknown property
>>>>>>>> Line 1:
>>>>>>>> relative; margin: 14px 0 0 0; height: 24px;
>>>>>>>> ---------^
>>>>>>>> [01.05.2012 12:44:47] CSS - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>>>> apache.org/download/test/****index_new_dl.html<http://apache.org/download/test/**index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <http://ooo-**site.staging.apache.org/**download/test/index_new_dl.**
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> HTML style attribute
>>>>>>>> Declaration syntax error
>>>>>>>> Line 1:
>>>>>>>> relative; margin: 14px 0 0 0; height: 24px;
>>>>>>>> ---------^
>>>>>>>> [18.03.1970 15:40:44] JavaScript - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>>>> apache.org/download/test/****index_new_dl.html<http://apache.org/download/test/**index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <http://ooo-**site.staging.apache.org/**download/test/index_new_dl.**
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Inline script thread
>>>>>>>> Uncaught exception: ReferenceError: Undefined variable: getLink
>>>>>>>> Error thrown at line 3, column 2 in http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>>>> apache.org/download/test/****index_new_dl.html<http://apache.org/download/test/**index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <http://ooo-**site.staging.apache.org/**download/test/index_new_dl.**
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>> LINK = getLink( VERSION, MIRROR, SCHEMA );
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks again for you help...moving on to other things now...still
>>>>>>> much to
>>>>>>> do

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 05/07/2012 07:15 PM, schrieb Claudio Filho:
> 2012/5/5 Marcus (OOo)<ma...@wtnet.de>:
>> However, the Debian project has initiated this Firefox fork and therefore I
>> think it's OK to assume that the very most Iceweasel browser are running on
>> Debian, Ubuntu&  Co.
>
> No. Isn't exactly in this way, Marcus. This problem happens only with
> Debian in function of disagree between Mozilla and Debian about the

Yes, but that is what I wrote.

> use of trademark and brand. Ubuntu have a agreement with Mozilla for
> free user of brand.

OK, that is indeed new for me. Thanks for the info.

Marcus

> In the same situation is the Waterfox[1], but i haven't a win64 to test.
> [1]http://waterfoxproject.org/
>
> Claudio

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by Claudio Filho <fi...@gmail.com>.
Hi

2012/5/5 Marcus (OOo) <ma...@wtnet.de>:
> However, the Debian project has initiated this Firefox fork and therefore I
> think it's OK to assume that the very most Iceweasel browser are running on
> Debian, Ubuntu & Co.

No. Isn't exactly in this way, Marcus. This problem happens only with
Debian in function of disagree between Mozilla and Debian about the
use of trademark and brand. Ubuntu have a agreement with Mozilla for
free user of brand.

In the same situation is the Waterfox[1], but i haven't a win64 to test.
[1]http://waterfoxproject.org/

Claudio

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 05/05/2012 06:47 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
> On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Marcus (OOo)<ma...@wtnet.de>  wrote:
>
>> Am 05/05/2012 02:55 PM, schrieb Claudio Filho:
>>
>>   2012/5/5 Marcus (OOo)<ma...@wtnet.de>:
>>>
>>>> The platform seems not recognized. Please post what you get from this
>>>> webpage:
>>>>
>>>
>>> My results.
>>>
>>> Claudio
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Chromium 18.0.1025.168~r134367-1 -----
>>> navigator.platform: Linux i686
>>> navigator.UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64)
>>> AppleWebKit/535.19 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/18.0.1025.168
>>> Safari/535.19
>>> navigator.UserAgent lower case: mozilla/5.0 (x11; linux x86_64)
>>> applewebkit/535.19 (khtml, like gecko) chrome/18.0.1025.168
>>> safari/535.19
>>> navigator.UserAgent lower case: -1
>>> getLink(): undefined
>>> getPlatform(): Linux
>>> getLanguage(): Portuguese (Brazilian)
>>>
>>>
>>> window.location.href    http://www.openoffice.org/**
>>> download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>>> navigator.platform      Linux i686
>>> navigator.platform.**toLowerCase()        linux i686
>>> navigator.userAgent     Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/535.19
>>> (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/18.0.1025.168 Safari/535.19
>>> navigator.userAgent.**toLowerCase()       mozilla/5.0 (x11; linux x86_64)
>>> applewebkit/535.19 (khtml, like gecko) chrome/18.0.1025.168
>>> safari/535.19
>>> navigator.language      pt-BR
>>> navigator.userLanguage  undefined
>>> navigator.systemLanguage        undefined
>>> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
>>>
>>
>> Chrome is available for rpm- and deb-based Linux. Unfortunately, the
>> "navigator.userAgent" doesn't show an indicator to split into rpm or deb,
>> so it defaults to rpm. Maybe we are at the limit to recognize and provide
>> the correct URL for download.
>>
>> If you - or someone else - knows about how to recognize Chrome browser on
>> rpm and deb Linux, please tell us.
>>
>>
>>   ----- Iceweasel (FFox) 10.0.4esr-2 ------
>>> navigator.platform: Linux x86_64
>>> navigator.UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.4)
>>> Gecko/20100101 Firefox/10.0.4 Iceweasel/10.0.4
>>> navigator.UserAgent lower case: mozilla/5.0 (x11; linux x86_64;
>>> rv:10.0.4) gecko/20100101 firefox/10.0.4 iceweasel/10.0.4
>>> navigator.UserAgent lower case: -1
>>> getLink(): undefined
>>> getPlatform(): Linux x86-64
>>> getLanguage(): Portuguese (Brazilian)
>>>
>>>
>>> window.location.href    http://www.openoffice.org/**
>>> download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>>> navigator.platform      Linux x86_64
>>> navigator.platform.**toLowerCase()        linux x86_64
>>> navigator.userAgent     Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.4)
>>> Gecko/20100101 Firefox/10.0.4 Iceweasel/10.0.4
>>> navigator.userAgent.**toLowerCase()       mozilla/5.0 (x11; linux x86_64;
>>> rv:10.0.4) gecko/20100101 firefox/10.0.4 iceweasel/10.0.4
>>> navigator.language      pt-BR
>>> navigator.userLanguage  undefined
>>> navigator.systemLanguage        undefined
>>> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
>>>
>>
>> The DL magic checks if "navigator.userAgent" contains the term "debian".
>> If so, a URL with a deb package will be created.
>> Here it seems we have to extend it with the term "iceweasel".
>
>
> Yes, your analysis is correct. Since I don't use debian, or any of it's
> derivatives, I didn't know what we should expect here. Is "iceweasel"
> something  ONLY used by debian distros? I'm confused...

I'm pretty sure that it's technically possible to use it also on Fedora 
& Co.

However, the Debian project has initiated this Firefox fork and 
therefore I think it's OK to assume that the very most Iceweasel browser 
are running on Debian, Ubuntu & Co.

Marcus


Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Marcus (OOo) <ma...@wtnet.de> wrote:

> Am 05/05/2012 02:55 PM, schrieb Claudio Filho:
>
>  2012/5/5 Marcus (OOo)<ma...@wtnet.de>:
>>
>>> The platform seems not recognized. Please post what you get from this
>>> webpage:
>>>
>>
>> My results.
>>
>> Claudio
>>
>>
>> ----- Chromium 18.0.1025.168~r134367-1 -----
>> navigator.platform: Linux i686
>> navigator.UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64)
>> AppleWebKit/535.19 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/18.0.1025.168
>> Safari/535.19
>> navigator.UserAgent lower case: mozilla/5.0 (x11; linux x86_64)
>> applewebkit/535.19 (khtml, like gecko) chrome/18.0.1025.168
>> safari/535.19
>> navigator.UserAgent lower case: -1
>> getLink(): undefined
>> getPlatform(): Linux
>> getLanguage(): Portuguese (Brazilian)
>>
>>
>> window.location.href    http://www.openoffice.org/**
>> download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>> navigator.platform      Linux i686
>> navigator.platform.**toLowerCase()        linux i686
>> navigator.userAgent     Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/535.19
>> (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/18.0.1025.168 Safari/535.19
>> navigator.userAgent.**toLowerCase()       mozilla/5.0 (x11; linux x86_64)
>> applewebkit/535.19 (khtml, like gecko) chrome/18.0.1025.168
>> safari/535.19
>> navigator.language      pt-BR
>> navigator.userLanguage  undefined
>> navigator.systemLanguage        undefined
>> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
>>
>
> Chrome is available for rpm- and deb-based Linux. Unfortunately, the
> "navigator.userAgent" doesn't show an indicator to split into rpm or deb,
> so it defaults to rpm. Maybe we are at the limit to recognize and provide
> the correct URL for download.
>
> If you - or someone else - knows about how to recognize Chrome browser on
> rpm and deb Linux, please tell us.
>
>
>  ----- Iceweasel (FFox) 10.0.4esr-2 ------
>> navigator.platform: Linux x86_64
>> navigator.UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.4)
>> Gecko/20100101 Firefox/10.0.4 Iceweasel/10.0.4
>> navigator.UserAgent lower case: mozilla/5.0 (x11; linux x86_64;
>> rv:10.0.4) gecko/20100101 firefox/10.0.4 iceweasel/10.0.4
>> navigator.UserAgent lower case: -1
>> getLink(): undefined
>> getPlatform(): Linux x86-64
>> getLanguage(): Portuguese (Brazilian)
>>
>>
>> window.location.href    http://www.openoffice.org/**
>> download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>> navigator.platform      Linux x86_64
>> navigator.platform.**toLowerCase()        linux x86_64
>> navigator.userAgent     Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.4)
>> Gecko/20100101 Firefox/10.0.4 Iceweasel/10.0.4
>> navigator.userAgent.**toLowerCase()       mozilla/5.0 (x11; linux x86_64;
>> rv:10.0.4) gecko/20100101 firefox/10.0.4 iceweasel/10.0.4
>> navigator.language      pt-BR
>> navigator.userLanguage  undefined
>> navigator.systemLanguage        undefined
>> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
>>
>
> The DL magic checks if "navigator.userAgent" contains the term "debian".
> If so, a URL with a deb package will be created.
> Here it seems we have to extend it with the term "iceweasel".


Yes, your analysis is correct. Since I don't use debian, or any of it's
derivatives, I didn't know what we should expect here. Is "iceweasel"
something  ONLY used by debian distros? I'm confused...



>
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Marcus
>



-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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"Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
 And life has a funny way of helping you out
 Helping you out."
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Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 05/05/2012 02:55 PM, schrieb Claudio Filho:
> 2012/5/5 Marcus (OOo)<ma...@wtnet.de>:
>> The platform seems not recognized. Please post what you get from this
>> webpage:
>
> My results.
>
> Claudio
>
>
> ----- Chromium 18.0.1025.168~r134367-1 -----
> navigator.platform: Linux i686
> navigator.UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64)
> AppleWebKit/535.19 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/18.0.1025.168
> Safari/535.19
> navigator.UserAgent lower case: mozilla/5.0 (x11; linux x86_64)
> applewebkit/535.19 (khtml, like gecko) chrome/18.0.1025.168
> safari/535.19
> navigator.UserAgent lower case: -1
> getLink(): undefined
> getPlatform(): Linux
> getLanguage(): Portuguese (Brazilian)
>
>
> window.location.href	http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html
> navigator.platform	Linux i686
> navigator.platform.toLowerCase()	linux i686
> navigator.userAgent	Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/535.19
> (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/18.0.1025.168 Safari/535.19
> navigator.userAgent.toLowerCase()	mozilla/5.0 (x11; linux x86_64)
> applewebkit/535.19 (khtml, like gecko) chrome/18.0.1025.168
> safari/535.19
> navigator.language	pt-BR
> navigator.userLanguage	undefined
> navigator.systemLanguage	undefined
> navigator.javaEnabled()	Yes

Chrome is available for rpm- and deb-based Linux. Unfortunately, the 
"navigator.userAgent" doesn't show an indicator to split into rpm or 
deb, so it defaults to rpm. Maybe we are at the limit to recognize and 
provide the correct URL for download.

If you - or someone else - knows about how to recognize Chrome browser 
on rpm and deb Linux, please tell us.

> ----- Iceweasel (FFox) 10.0.4esr-2 ------
> navigator.platform: Linux x86_64
> navigator.UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.4)
> Gecko/20100101 Firefox/10.0.4 Iceweasel/10.0.4
> navigator.UserAgent lower case: mozilla/5.0 (x11; linux x86_64;
> rv:10.0.4) gecko/20100101 firefox/10.0.4 iceweasel/10.0.4
> navigator.UserAgent lower case: -1
> getLink(): undefined
> getPlatform(): Linux x86-64
> getLanguage(): Portuguese (Brazilian)
>
>
> window.location.href 	http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html
> navigator.platform 	Linux x86_64
> navigator.platform.toLowerCase() 	linux x86_64
> navigator.userAgent 	Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.4)
> Gecko/20100101 Firefox/10.0.4 Iceweasel/10.0.4
> navigator.userAgent.toLowerCase()	mozilla/5.0 (x11; linux x86_64;
> rv:10.0.4) gecko/20100101 firefox/10.0.4 iceweasel/10.0.4
> navigator.language 	pt-BR
> navigator.userLanguage 	undefined
> navigator.systemLanguage	undefined
> navigator.javaEnabled()	Yes

The DL magic checks if "navigator.userAgent" contains the term "debian". 
If so, a URL with a deb package will be created.
Here it seems we have to extend it with the term "iceweasel".

Thanks for your help.

Marcus

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by Claudio Filho <fi...@gmail.com>.
2012/5/5 Marcus (OOo) <ma...@wtnet.de>:
> The platform seems not recognized. Please post what you get from this
> webpage:

My results.

Claudio


----- Chromium 18.0.1025.168~r134367-1 -----
navigator.platform: Linux i686
navigator.UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64)
AppleWebKit/535.19 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/18.0.1025.168
Safari/535.19
navigator.UserAgent lower case: mozilla/5.0 (x11; linux x86_64)
applewebkit/535.19 (khtml, like gecko) chrome/18.0.1025.168
safari/535.19
navigator.UserAgent lower case: -1
getLink(): undefined
getPlatform(): Linux
getLanguage(): Portuguese (Brazilian)


window.location.href	http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html
navigator.platform	Linux i686
navigator.platform.toLowerCase()	linux i686
navigator.userAgent	Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64) AppleWebKit/535.19
(KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/18.0.1025.168 Safari/535.19
navigator.userAgent.toLowerCase()	mozilla/5.0 (x11; linux x86_64)
applewebkit/535.19 (khtml, like gecko) chrome/18.0.1025.168
safari/535.19
navigator.language	pt-BR
navigator.userLanguage	undefined
navigator.systemLanguage	undefined
navigator.javaEnabled()	Yes

----- Iceweasel (FFox) 10.0.4esr-2 ------
navigator.platform: Linux x86_64
navigator.UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.4)
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/10.0.4 Iceweasel/10.0.4
navigator.UserAgent lower case: mozilla/5.0 (x11; linux x86_64;
rv:10.0.4) gecko/20100101 firefox/10.0.4 iceweasel/10.0.4
navigator.UserAgent lower case: -1
getLink(): undefined
getPlatform(): Linux x86-64
getLanguage(): Portuguese (Brazilian)


window.location.href 	http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html
navigator.platform 	Linux x86_64
navigator.platform.toLowerCase() 	linux x86_64
navigator.userAgent 	Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:10.0.4)
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/10.0.4 Iceweasel/10.0.4
navigator.userAgent.toLowerCase()	mozilla/5.0 (x11; linux x86_64;
rv:10.0.4) gecko/20100101 firefox/10.0.4 iceweasel/10.0.4
navigator.language 	pt-BR
navigator.userLanguage 	undefined
navigator.systemLanguage	undefined
navigator.javaEnabled()	Yes

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 05/05/2012 02:33 PM, schrieb Claudio Filho:
> In Debian environment don't work. I used Iceweasel (Ffox in Debian)
> and Chromium, and for both returned a rpm package.
> http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/localized/pt-BR/3.4.0/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_pt-BR.tar.gz/download
>
>
> As you can see, language and architecture are ok. What is expected is
> something like:
> Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Linux_x86-64_install- *deb*
> _pt-BR.tar.gz/download

The platform seems not recognized. Please post what you get from this 
webpage:

http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html

> For win7/32b is ok for all. I will install more VMs to test.

OK

Thanks for your tests.

Marcus


Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by Claudio Filho <fi...@gmail.com>.
Hi

In Debian environment don't work. I used Iceweasel (Ffox in Debian)
and Chromium, and for both returned a rpm package.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/openofficeorg.mirror/files/localized/pt-BR/3.4.0/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_pt-BR.tar.gz/download


As you can see, language and architecture are ok. What is expected is
something like:
Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Linux_x86-64_install- *deb*
_pt-BR.tar.gz/download

For win7/32b is ok for all. I will install more VMs to test.

Claudio

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Sat, May 5, 2012 at 6:24 AM, Jürgen Schmidt
<jo...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> On 5/5/12 4:03 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>
>> Am 05/05/2012 12:08 AM, schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 4, 2012, at 1:22 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>>
>>>> Am 05/04/2012 06:27 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 12:50 AM, Jürgen Schmidt
>>>>> <jo...@googlemail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have tested http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**
>>>>>>
>>>>>> index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>on
>>>>>> MacOS 10.7.3 with Firefox 12.0 and Safari 5.1.5
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In both cases the click on the download butotn give me the correct
>>>>>> download, perfect ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> YAY!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some questions as release manager:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - the link "Searching for another version? Get all platforms,
>>>>>> languages,
>>>>>> language packs" guide me on an old page. Do we have the new page
>>>>>> with the
>>>>>> reduced number of released languages already in place?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> yes, we do...it is not linked in and will need to retaing its
>>>>> current name
>>>>> but you can see the new version at:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/other_new_dl.html
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've created yesterday evening a first draft. So, please don't see it
>>>> as written in stone. And some links are not yet working.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> Does "source archives" on this page provide links to our source
>>>>>> release?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> see above page...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, there is a little section to provide links to the source files
>>>> (should be from Apache only).
>>>
>>>
>>> This is what should be from the Apache Mirrors and not /dist/. You can
>>> use the cgi url that Joe has provided.
>>>
>>> (This is item no 10.)
>>>
>>> Let me know if you would like me to do these changes on the new other
>>> page.
>>
>>
>> I've tried to use the aoo-closer.cgi script in the URL. But it doesn't
>> work yet. Do you see anything incorrect in the URL?
>
>
> http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-closer.cgi/incubator/ooo/3.4.0/source/aoo-3.4.0-incubating-src.zip[.asc|.md5|.sha1|.sha512]
>
> http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-closer.cgi/incubator/ooo/3.4.0/source/aoo-3.4.0-incubating-src.tar.gz[.asc|.md5|.sha1|.sha512]
>
> http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-closer.cgi/incubator/ooo/3.4.0/source/aoo-3.4.0-incubating-src.tar.bz2[.asc|.md5|.sha1|.sha512]
>
>
>>
>>>>>> - the link "Release Notes"
>>>>>> Do we have it in place as html file that fits in here? I know we
>>>>>> have it
>>>>>> in the wiki and there as html as well. But is the plan here?
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I just sent out a note about this. We have one in development but
>>>>> it's not
>>>>> where it should be.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> - the "MD5 checksums"
>>>>>> I have read that we will probably change it to "Signatures and
>>>>>> Hashes". Do
>>>>>> we have the page/script behind it?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Or should we simply provide 4 links ASC, MD5, SHA1, SHA512 with a
>>>>>> simple
>>>>>> script appending the correct extension. Everything else should be
>>>>>> in place
>>>>>> already.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This is a BIG unanswered question at the moment-- please see the
>>>>>
>>>>> "Distributing AOO 3.4: The 22 things we need to do before we announce"
>>>>>
>>>>> thread...Rob's last comments...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I can create also a webpage with links to all checksums. Shouldn't be
>>>> a problem.
>>>
>>>
>>> Link to the signatures on /dist/. These are the trusted source. The
>>> page should explain how to verify the sigs. There are many examples.
>>
>>
>> The checksums file is ready:
>>
>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/checksums_new_dl.html
>>
>> Just the part "How to use checksums?" needs to be filled with text. I'll
>> do this tomorrow.
>
>
> you missed the *.asc signature files that are even more important to check
> the files.
>
> As I mentioned in another email, we could change the link
>
> "MD5 checksum" with 4 links ASC MD5 SHA1 SHA512
>
> The download button has all information in place to create the package name
> and Url part.
>
> We have to use simply
> http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-closer.cgi/incubator/ooo/ + <Url part> +
> <packagename> + [.asc|.md5|.sha1|.sha512]
>

I don't think that will work.  That URL would point to hash files on a
mirror.  We need to point to the copy under
http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/

Why?  Because one purpose of the hashes is to protect against a
compromised mirror.  If a hacker got onto a mirror they could easily
change an install file and change the hash files at the same time.  So
we always want to point to the hashes on a trusted server, i.e.,
www.apache.org.


> to guide everything on the Apache mirrors
>
>
> Juergen
>
>
>>
>>>>>> Sorry if my questions are already answered somewhere, it's easy to
>>>>>> miss
>>>>>> some mails at the moment.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> No problem...there's a LOT going on...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> To be honest, I think I've lost a litle bit the plot. I don't know
>>>> exactly which webpages we want, which links on them, to which
>>>> mirrors. And what are the exceptions. ;-(
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry.
>>>
>>>>
>>>> So, I've updated our Wikipage (see the bottom) to get the overview
>>>> back. Even if this is not relevant for a longer time, it should be
>>>> helpful for the next weeks:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> To the best of my knowledge, so please make changes if something is
>>>> wrong.
>>>
>>>
>>> I changed the source over to the Apache Mirrors.
>>
>>
>> OK
>>
>>> I think that the SDKs should be on the Apache mirrors, but then I can
>>> also see good reasons to leave it alone.
>>
>>
>> I have it now for the SF mirrors. However, no problem to change the URLs
>> to ASF mirrors.
>>
>> Marcus
>>
>>
>>
>>> I want to mark item 10 done when ROb is done editing.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> Marcus
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/1/12 6:22 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 3:46 AM, Regina
>>>>>>> Henschel<rb...@t-online.de>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Kay,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kay Schenk schrieb:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regina--
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks for all this work. Please see comments inline below...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Regina
>>>>>>>>> Henschel<rb.henschel@t-online.*
>>>>>>>>> ***
>>>>>>>>> de<rb...@t-online.de>>**wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> my test results are below, all on German WinXP Home, SP3.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [..]
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> With Opera 11.62
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> =============================
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Calling
>>>>>>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.****apac**he.org/download/test/**<**
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://apache.org/download/**test/**<http://apache.org/download/test/**>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-****site.staging.apache.org/**
>>>>>>>>>> download/test/index_new_dl.****html<http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> apache.org/download/test/**index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The green download box is missing totally.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Calling
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/******download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/****download/test/analyze.html>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <htt**p://www.openoffice.org/****download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze.html>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <htt**p://www.openoffice.org/****download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze.html>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> <ht**tp://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> results in
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> navigator.platform: Win32
>>>>>>>>>> navigator.UserAgent: Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 5.1; U; de)
>>>>>>>>>> Presto/2.10.229
>>>>>>>>>> Version/11.62
>>>>>>>>>> navigator.UserAgent lower case: opera/9.80 (windows nt 5.1; u; de)
>>>>>>>>>> presto/2.10.229 version/11.62
>>>>>>>>>> navigator.UserAgent lower case: -1
>>>>>>>>>> getLink(): undefined
>>>>>>>>>> getPlatform(): Windows
>>>>>>>>>> getLanguage(): German
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> window.location.href http://www.openoffice.org/**
>>>>>>>>>> download/test/analyze.html<**htt**p://www.openoffice.org/**
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> download/test/analyze.html<htt**p://www.openoffice.org/**
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> navigator.platform Win32
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> navigator.platform.******toLowerCase() win32
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> navigator.userAgent Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 5.1; U; de)
>>>>>>>>>> Presto/2.10.229
>>>>>>>>>> Version/11.62
>>>>>>>>>> navigator.userAgent.******toLowerCase() opera/9.80 (windows nt
>>>>>>>>>> 5.1;
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> u;
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> de) presto/2.10.229 version/11.62
>>>>>>>>>> navigator.language de
>>>>>>>>>> navigator.userLanguage de
>>>>>>>>>> navigator.systemLanguage undefined
>>>>>>>>>> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> OK -- well this is NOT good, but what kind of results do you
>>>>>>>>>> get with
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Opera
>>>>>>>>> for:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/****download/legacy/<http://www.openoffice.org/**download/legacy/>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.**openoffice.org/download/**legacy/<http://www.openoffice.org/download/legacy/>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> same thing or ????
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, same error. The green box is missing.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK -- well I feel a little better at least. I don't know what it
>>>>>>> is about
>>>>>>> JS and Opera but I know when Marcus and I were working on
>>>>>>> something a few
>>>>>>> years ago, we had a LOT of problems with Opera.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Despite the fact that Opera is supposed to be the most W3 compliant
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> browser, I know folks have had issues with it...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [..]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I see JavaScript errors in the 'Fehlerkonsole', besides some
>>>>>>>> messages
>>>>>>>> about CSS, copy&paste below.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> yeah-- nothing fatal... OK
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>>>> Regina
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [01.05.2012 12:44:46] CSS - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>>>> apache.org/css/ooo.css<http://**ooo-site.staging.apache.org/**
>>>>>>>> css/ooo.css<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/css/ooo.css>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Linked-in stylesheet
>>>>>>>> -moz-border-radius is an unknown property
>>>>>>>> Line 276:
>>>>>>>> -moz-border-radius: 0 0 10px 0;
>>>>>>>> ---------------------^
>>>>>>>> [01.05.2012 12:44:46] CSS - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>>>> apache.org/css/ooo.css<http://**ooo-site.staging.apache.org/**
>>>>>>>> css/ooo.css<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/css/ooo.css>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Linked-in stylesheet
>>>>>>>> -moz-border-radius is an unknown property
>>>>>>>> Line 328:
>>>>>>>> -moz-border-radius: 0 10px 10px 0;
>>>>>>>> ---------------------^
>>>>>>>> [01.05.2012 12:44:46] CSS - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>>>> apache.org/css/ooo.css<http://**ooo-site.staging.apache.org/**
>>>>>>>> css/ooo.css<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/css/ooo.css>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Linked-in stylesheet
>>>>>>>> Selector syntax error
>>>>>>>> Line 470:
>>>>>>>> img { border: 0px; }
>>>>>>>> -----^
>>>>>>>> [25.01.1970 07:34:22] JavaScript - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> apache.org/download/test/****download_new_dl.js<http://apache.org/download/test/**download_new_dl.js>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <http://ooo-**site.staging.apache.org/**download/test/download_new_dl.**
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> js<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/download_new_dl.js>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Linked script compilation
>>>>>>>> Syntax error at line 883 while loading: expected ';', got '304'
>>>>>>>> HTTP/1.1 304 Not Modified
>>>>>>>> ---------^
>>>>>>>> [25.03.1970 11:30:57] JavaScript - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> apache.org/download/test/****languages_new_dl.js<http://apache.org/download/test/**languages_new_dl.js>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <http://**ooo-site.staging.apache.org/**download/test/languages_new_**
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> dl.js<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/languages_new_dl.js>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Linked script compilation
>>>>>>>> Syntax error at line 104 while loading: expected ';', got '200'
>>>>>>>> HTTP/1.1 200 OK
>>>>>>>> ---------^
>>>>>>>> [25.03.1970 11:30:57] JavaScript - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> apache.org/download/test/****download_new_mirrorbrain.js<http://apache.org/download/test/**download_new_mirrorbrain.js>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <ht**tp://ooo-site.staging.apache.**org/download/test/download_**
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> new_mirrorbrain.js<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/download_new_mirrorbrain.js>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Linked script compilation
>>>>>>>> Syntax error at line 595 while loading: expected ';', got '304'
>>>>>>>> HTTP/1.1 304 Not Modified
>>>>>>>> ---------^
>>>>>>>> [01.05.2012 12:44:47] JavaScript - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> apache.org/download/scripts/****entourage.js<http://apache.org/download/scripts/**entourage.js>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <http://ooo-site.**staging.apache.org/download/**scripts/entourage.js<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/scripts/entourage.js>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Das verlinkte Skript wurde nicht geladen.
>>>>>>>> [01.05.2012 12:44:47] CSS - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> apache.org/download/test/****index_new_dl.html<http://apache.org/download/test/**index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <http://ooo-**site.staging.apache.org/**download/test/index_new_dl.**
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> HTML style attribute
>>>>>>>> relative is an unknown property
>>>>>>>> Line 1:
>>>>>>>> relative; margin: 14px 0 0 0; height: 24px;
>>>>>>>> ---------^
>>>>>>>> [01.05.2012 12:44:47] CSS - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> apache.org/download/test/****index_new_dl.html<http://apache.org/download/test/**index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <http://ooo-**site.staging.apache.org/**download/test/index_new_dl.**
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> HTML style attribute
>>>>>>>> Declaration syntax error
>>>>>>>> Line 1:
>>>>>>>> relative; margin: 14px 0 0 0; height: 24px;
>>>>>>>> ---------^
>>>>>>>> [18.03.1970 15:40:44] JavaScript - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> apache.org/download/test/****index_new_dl.html<http://apache.org/download/test/**index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <http://ooo-**site.staging.apache.org/**download/test/index_new_dl.**
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Inline script thread
>>>>>>>> Uncaught exception: ReferenceError: Undefined variable: getLink
>>>>>>>> Error thrown at line 3, column 2 in http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> apache.org/download/test/****index_new_dl.html<http://apache.org/download/test/**index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <http://ooo-**site.staging.apache.org/**download/test/index_new_dl.**
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>> LINK = getLink( VERSION, MIRROR, SCHEMA );
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks again for you help...moving on to other things now...still
>>>>>>> much to
>>>>>>> do
>
>

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@googlemail.com>.
On 5/5/12 4:03 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
> Am 05/05/2012 12:08 AM, schrieb Dave Fisher:
>>
>> On May 4, 2012, at 1:22 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>
>>> Am 05/04/2012 06:27 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
>>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 12:50 AM, Jürgen Schmidt
>>>> <jo...@googlemail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> I have tested http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**
>>>>> index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>on
>>>>> MacOS 10.7.3 with Firefox 12.0 and Safari 5.1.5
>>>>>
>>>>> In both cases the click on the download butotn give me the correct
>>>>> download, perfect ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> YAY!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Some questions as release manager:
>>>>>
>>>>> - the link "Searching for another version? Get all platforms,
>>>>> languages,
>>>>> language packs" guide me on an old page. Do we have the new page
>>>>> with the
>>>>> reduced number of released languages already in place?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> yes, we do...it is not linked in and will need to retaing its
>>>> current name
>>>> but you can see the new version at:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/other_new_dl.html
>>>
>>> I've created yesterday evening a first draft. So, please don't see it
>>> as written in stone. And some links are not yet working.
>>
>>>
>>>>> Does "source archives" on this page provide links to our source
>>>>> release?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> see above page...
>>>
>>> Yes, there is a little section to provide links to the source files
>>> (should be from Apache only).
>>
>> This is what should be from the Apache Mirrors and not /dist/. You can
>> use the cgi url that Joe has provided.
>>
>> (This is item no 10.)
>>
>> Let me know if you would like me to do these changes on the new other
>> page.
>
> I've tried to use the aoo-closer.cgi script in the URL. But it doesn't
> work yet. Do you see anything incorrect in the URL?

http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-closer.cgi/incubator/ooo/3.4.0/source/aoo-3.4.0-incubating-src.zip[.asc|.md5|.sha1|.sha512]

http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-closer.cgi/incubator/ooo/3.4.0/source/aoo-3.4.0-incubating-src.tar.gz[.asc|.md5|.sha1|.sha512]

http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-closer.cgi/incubator/ooo/3.4.0/source/aoo-3.4.0-incubating-src.tar.bz2[.asc|.md5|.sha1|.sha512]

>
>>>>> - the link "Release Notes"
>>>>> Do we have it in place as html file that fits in here? I know we
>>>>> have it
>>>>> in the wiki and there as html as well. But is the plan here?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I just sent out a note about this. We have one in development but
>>>> it's not
>>>> where it should be.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> - the "MD5 checksums"
>>>>> I have read that we will probably change it to "Signatures and
>>>>> Hashes". Do
>>>>> we have the page/script behind it?
>>>>>
>>>>> Or should we simply provide 4 links ASC, MD5, SHA1, SHA512 with a
>>>>> simple
>>>>> script appending the correct extension. Everything else should be
>>>>> in place
>>>>> already.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is a BIG unanswered question at the moment-- please see the
>>>>
>>>> "Distributing AOO 3.4: The 22 things we need to do before we announce"
>>>>
>>>> thread...Rob's last comments...
>>>
>>> I can create also a webpage with links to all checksums. Shouldn't be
>>> a problem.
>>
>> Link to the signatures on /dist/. These are the trusted source. The
>> page should explain how to verify the sigs. There are many examples.
>
> The checksums file is ready:
>
> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/checksums_new_dl.html
>
> Just the part "How to use checksums?" needs to be filled with text. I'll
> do this tomorrow.

you missed the *.asc signature files that are even more important to 
check the files.

As I mentioned in another email, we could change the link

"MD5 checksum" with 4 links ASC MD5 SHA1 SHA512

The download button has all information in place to create the package 
name and Url part.

We have to use simply 
http://www.apache.org/dyn/aoo-closer.cgi/incubator/ooo/ + <Url part> + 
<packagename> + [.asc|.md5|.sha1|.sha512]

to guide everything on the Apache mirrors


Juergen

>
>>>>> Sorry if my questions are already answered somewhere, it's easy to
>>>>> miss
>>>>> some mails at the moment.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> No problem...there's a LOT going on...
>>>
>>> To be honest, I think I've lost a litle bit the plot. I don't know
>>> exactly which webpages we want, which links on them, to which
>>> mirrors. And what are the exceptions. ;-(
>>
>> Sorry.
>>
>>>
>>> So, I've updated our Wikipage (see the bottom) to get the overview
>>> back. Even if this is not relevant for a longer time, it should be
>>> helpful for the next weeks:
>>>
>>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks
>>>
>>>
>>> To the best of my knowledge, so please make changes if something is
>>> wrong.
>>
>> I changed the source over to the Apache Mirrors.
>
> OK
>
>> I think that the SDKs should be on the Apache mirrors, but then I can
>> also see good reasons to leave it alone.
>
> I have it now for the SF mirrors. However, no problem to change the URLs
> to ASF mirrors.
>
> Marcus
>
>
>
>> I want to mark item 10 done when ROb is done editing.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Marcus
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>> On 5/1/12 6:22 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 3:46 AM, Regina
>>>>>> Henschel<rb...@t-online.de>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Kay,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kay Schenk schrieb:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regina--
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for all this work. Please see comments inline below...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Regina
>>>>>>>> Henschel<rb.henschel@t-online.*
>>>>>>>> ***
>>>>>>>> de<rb...@t-online.de>>**wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> my test results are below, all on German WinXP Home, SP3.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [..]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> With Opera 11.62
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> =============================
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Calling
>>>>>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.****apac**he.org/download/test/**<**
>>>>>>>>> http://apache.org/download/**test/**<http://apache.org/download/test/**>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-****site.staging.apache.org/**
>>>>>>>>> download/test/index_new_dl.****html<http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>>>>> apache.org/download/test/**index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The green download box is missing totally.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Calling
>>>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/******download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/****download/test/analyze.html>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <htt**p://www.openoffice.org/****download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze.html>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <htt**p://www.openoffice.org/****download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze.html>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> <ht**tp://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> results in
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> navigator.platform: Win32
>>>>>>>>> navigator.UserAgent: Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 5.1; U; de)
>>>>>>>>> Presto/2.10.229
>>>>>>>>> Version/11.62
>>>>>>>>> navigator.UserAgent lower case: opera/9.80 (windows nt 5.1; u; de)
>>>>>>>>> presto/2.10.229 version/11.62
>>>>>>>>> navigator.UserAgent lower case: -1
>>>>>>>>> getLink(): undefined
>>>>>>>>> getPlatform(): Windows
>>>>>>>>> getLanguage(): German
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> window.location.href http://www.openoffice.org/**
>>>>>>>>> download/test/analyze.html<**htt**p://www.openoffice.org/**
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> download/test/analyze.html<htt**p://www.openoffice.org/**
>>>>>>>>> download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> navigator.platform Win32
>>>>>>>>> navigator.platform.******toLowerCase() win32
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> navigator.userAgent Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 5.1; U; de)
>>>>>>>>> Presto/2.10.229
>>>>>>>>> Version/11.62
>>>>>>>>> navigator.userAgent.******toLowerCase() opera/9.80 (windows nt
>>>>>>>>> 5.1;
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> u;
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> de) presto/2.10.229 version/11.62
>>>>>>>>> navigator.language de
>>>>>>>>> navigator.userLanguage de
>>>>>>>>> navigator.systemLanguage undefined
>>>>>>>>> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> OK -- well this is NOT good, but what kind of results do you
>>>>>>>>> get with
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Opera
>>>>>>>> for:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/****download/legacy/<http://www.openoffice.org/**download/legacy/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <http://www.**openoffice.org/download/**legacy/<http://www.openoffice.org/download/legacy/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> same thing or ????
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, same error. The green box is missing.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> OK -- well I feel a little better at least. I don't know what it
>>>>>> is about
>>>>>> JS and Opera but I know when Marcus and I were working on
>>>>>> something a few
>>>>>> years ago, we had a LOT of problems with Opera.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Despite the fact that Opera is supposed to be the most W3 compliant
>>>>>>>> browser, I know folks have had issues with it...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [..]
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I see JavaScript errors in the 'Fehlerkonsole', besides some
>>>>>>> messages
>>>>>>> about CSS, copy&paste below.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> yeah-- nothing fatal... OK
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>>> Regina
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [01.05.2012 12:44:46] CSS - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>>> apache.org/css/ooo.css<http://**ooo-site.staging.apache.org/**
>>>>>>> css/ooo.css<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/css/ooo.css>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Linked-in stylesheet
>>>>>>> -moz-border-radius is an unknown property
>>>>>>> Line 276:
>>>>>>> -moz-border-radius: 0 0 10px 0;
>>>>>>> ---------------------^
>>>>>>> [01.05.2012 12:44:46] CSS - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>>> apache.org/css/ooo.css<http://**ooo-site.staging.apache.org/**
>>>>>>> css/ooo.css<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/css/ooo.css>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Linked-in stylesheet
>>>>>>> -moz-border-radius is an unknown property
>>>>>>> Line 328:
>>>>>>> -moz-border-radius: 0 10px 10px 0;
>>>>>>> ---------------------^
>>>>>>> [01.05.2012 12:44:46] CSS - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>>> apache.org/css/ooo.css<http://**ooo-site.staging.apache.org/**
>>>>>>> css/ooo.css<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/css/ooo.css>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Linked-in stylesheet
>>>>>>> Selector syntax error
>>>>>>> Line 470:
>>>>>>> img { border: 0px; }
>>>>>>> -----^
>>>>>>> [25.01.1970 07:34:22] JavaScript - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>>> apache.org/download/test/****download_new_dl.js<http://apache.org/download/test/**download_new_dl.js>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <http://ooo-**site.staging.apache.org/**download/test/download_new_dl.**
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> js<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/download_new_dl.js>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Linked script compilation
>>>>>>> Syntax error at line 883 while loading: expected ';', got '304'
>>>>>>> HTTP/1.1 304 Not Modified
>>>>>>> ---------^
>>>>>>> [25.03.1970 11:30:57] JavaScript - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>>> apache.org/download/test/****languages_new_dl.js<http://apache.org/download/test/**languages_new_dl.js>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <http://**ooo-site.staging.apache.org/**download/test/languages_new_**
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> dl.js<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/languages_new_dl.js>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Linked script compilation
>>>>>>> Syntax error at line 104 while loading: expected ';', got '200'
>>>>>>> HTTP/1.1 200 OK
>>>>>>> ---------^
>>>>>>> [25.03.1970 11:30:57] JavaScript - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>>> apache.org/download/test/****download_new_mirrorbrain.js<http://apache.org/download/test/**download_new_mirrorbrain.js>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <ht**tp://ooo-site.staging.apache.**org/download/test/download_**
>>>>>>> new_mirrorbrain.js<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/download_new_mirrorbrain.js>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Linked script compilation
>>>>>>> Syntax error at line 595 while loading: expected ';', got '304'
>>>>>>> HTTP/1.1 304 Not Modified
>>>>>>> ---------^
>>>>>>> [01.05.2012 12:44:47] JavaScript - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>>> apache.org/download/scripts/****entourage.js<http://apache.org/download/scripts/**entourage.js>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <http://ooo-site.**staging.apache.org/download/**scripts/entourage.js<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/scripts/entourage.js>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Das verlinkte Skript wurde nicht geladen.
>>>>>>> [01.05.2012 12:44:47] CSS - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>>> apache.org/download/test/****index_new_dl.html<http://apache.org/download/test/**index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <http://ooo-**site.staging.apache.org/**download/test/index_new_dl.**
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HTML style attribute
>>>>>>> relative is an unknown property
>>>>>>> Line 1:
>>>>>>> relative; margin: 14px 0 0 0; height: 24px;
>>>>>>> ---------^
>>>>>>> [01.05.2012 12:44:47] CSS - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>>> apache.org/download/test/****index_new_dl.html<http://apache.org/download/test/**index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <http://ooo-**site.staging.apache.org/**download/test/index_new_dl.**
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> HTML style attribute
>>>>>>> Declaration syntax error
>>>>>>> Line 1:
>>>>>>> relative; margin: 14px 0 0 0; height: 24px;
>>>>>>> ---------^
>>>>>>> [18.03.1970 15:40:44] JavaScript - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>>> apache.org/download/test/****index_new_dl.html<http://apache.org/download/test/**index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <http://ooo-**site.staging.apache.org/**download/test/index_new_dl.**
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Inline script thread
>>>>>>> Uncaught exception: ReferenceError: Undefined variable: getLink
>>>>>>> Error thrown at line 3, column 2 in http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>>> apache.org/download/test/****index_new_dl.html<http://apache.org/download/test/**index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> <http://ooo-**site.staging.apache.org/**download/test/index_new_dl.**
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>> LINK = getLink( VERSION, MIRROR, SCHEMA );
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks again for you help...moving on to other things now...still
>>>>>> much to
>>>>>> do


Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 05/07/2012 11:37 AM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:
> On 5/6/12 2:51 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>> Am 05/06/2012 01:31 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:
>>> On 5/6/12 1:02 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>>>> On 05/05/2012 Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>>>> The checksums file is ready:
>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/checksums_new_dl.html
>>>>
>>>> It's nice, even though a bit scary (four different verification
>>>> mechanisms are probably overkill); but this will satisfy everybody, so
>>>> OK.
>>>>
>>>> I see that many links in that page are broken (e.g., links to Windows
>>>> builds, to 64-bit DEBs and so on); I tend to believe this is known
>>>> and/or wanted for the time being, but, if it isn't, just click
>>>> around on
>>>> that page and you will see plenty of broken links.
>>>
>>> we can potentially drop one sha checksum ;-)
>>
>> Yes, for sure.
>>
>>> I have drafted the download page on the project page.
>>
>> That's good.
>>
>> An additional link to the (upcoming) official announcement (mail
>> archive, blog post, etc.) would be good.
>>
>>> http://openofficeorg.staging.apache.org/openofficeorg/downloads.html
>>>
>>> Review is appreciated.
>>>
>>> - downloads of source files via Apache mirrors
>>> - SDK as well
>>> - checksum files directly from dist
>>
>> Do you have any special reason to show download links also here? All is
>> (will be) available in the download area (currently here:
>> "http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html" and
>> "http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/other_new_dl.html").
>>
>> Otherwise I would suggest that the webpage points only to the already
>> existing download webpages. Then we will have less work when updating
>> downloads.
>>
>> Source --> http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html#tested-sdk
>> SDK --> http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html#tested-sdk
>> Binaries --> http://www.openoffice.org/download/index.html
>> Checksums --> http://www.openoffice.org/download/checksums.html
>
> by the way why do you have created a new checksums file and not extended
> the other.html. I think there is enough place and the context is much
> clearer as on a further page.

The context would fit, yes. But IMHO there is no place left.
If it would be combined than every table cell would have 5 download 
links. much to much to keep it simple.

A better idea is to integrate the hash links into the green box. And 
this came from you. :-) It's on the list for improvements and I'll try 
to do it after the first dust has settle. Then the separate webpage is 
just a fallback.

Marcus

>> If you want to mention the legacy builds it would be great to point also
>> here to the respective webpage:
>> "http://www.openoffice.org/download/legacy/index.html".
>>
>> If you want to mention the archive in general (prior OOo 3.3.0) this
>> link is helping: "http://www.openoffice.org/download/archive.html".
>>
>> Marcus

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@googlemail.com>.
On 5/6/12 2:51 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
> Am 05/06/2012 01:31 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:
>> On 5/6/12 1:02 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>>> On 05/05/2012 Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>>> The checksums file is ready:
>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/checksums_new_dl.html
>>>
>>> It's nice, even though a bit scary (four different verification
>>> mechanisms are probably overkill); but this will satisfy everybody, so
>>> OK.
>>>
>>> I see that many links in that page are broken (e.g., links to Windows
>>> builds, to 64-bit DEBs and so on); I tend to believe this is known
>>> and/or wanted for the time being, but, if it isn't, just click around on
>>> that page and you will see plenty of broken links.
>>
>> we can potentially drop one sha checksum ;-)
>
> Yes, for sure.
>
>> I have drafted the download page on the project page.
>
> That's good.
>
> An additional link to the (upcoming) official announcement (mail
> archive, blog post, etc.) would be good.
>
>> http://openofficeorg.staging.apache.org/openofficeorg/downloads.html
>>
>> Review is appreciated.
>>
>> - downloads of source files via Apache mirrors
>> - SDK as well
>> - checksum files directly from dist
>
> Do you have any special reason to show download links also here? All is
> (will be) available in the download area (currently here:
> "http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html" and
> "http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/other_new_dl.html").
>
> Otherwise I would suggest that the webpage points only to the already
> existing download webpages. Then we will have less work when updating
> downloads.
>
> Source --> http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html#tested-sdk
> SDK --> http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html#tested-sdk
> Binaries --> http://www.openoffice.org/download/index.html
> Checksums --> http://www.openoffice.org/download/checksums.html

by the way why do you have created a new checksums file and not extended 
the other.html. I think there is enough place and the context is much 
clearer as on a further page.

Juergen

>
> If you want to mention the legacy builds it would be great to point also
> here to the respective webpage:
> "http://www.openoffice.org/download/legacy/index.html".
>
> If you want to mention the archive in general (prior OOo 3.3.0) this
> link is helping: "http://www.openoffice.org/download/archive.html".
>
> Marcus


Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:

>
> On May 7, 2012, at 1:38 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>
> > Am 05/07/2012 11:00 AM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:
> >> On 5/6/12 2:51 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
> >>> Am 05/06/2012 01:31 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:
> >>>> On 5/6/12 1:02 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> >>>>> On 05/05/2012 Marcus (OOo) wrote:
> >>>>>> The checksums file is ready:
> >>>>>>
> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/checksums_new_dl.html
> >>>>>
> >>>>> It's nice, even though a bit scary (four different verification
> >>>>> mechanisms are probably overkill); but this will satisfy everybody,
> so
> >>>>> OK.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I see that many links in that page are broken (e.g., links to Windows
> >>>>> builds, to 64-bit DEBs and so on); I tend to believe this is known
> >>>>> and/or wanted for the time being, but, if it isn't, just click
> >>>>> around on
> >>>>> that page and you will see plenty of broken links.
> >>>>
> >>>> we can potentially drop one sha checksum ;-)
> >>>
> >>> Yes, for sure.
> >>>
> >>>> I have drafted the download page on the project page.
> >>>
> >>> That's good.
> >>>
> >>> An additional link to the (upcoming) official announcement (mail
> >>> archive, blog post, etc.) would be good.
> >>>
> >>>> http://openofficeorg.staging.apache.org/openofficeorg/downloads.html
> >>>>
> >>>> Review is appreciated.
> >>>>
> >>>> - downloads of source files via Apache mirrors
> >>>> - SDK as well
> >>>> - checksum files directly from dist
> >>>
> >>> Do you have any special reason to show download links also here?
> >>
> >> I initially had only the source files listed there but based on some
> >> discussion (email) to use the Apache mirrors for the SDK as well I
> >> decided to list the SDK here as well.
> >>
> >> I think it is common to list at least the source tarballs on this
> >> download page directly because the src tarballs are very important for
> >> Apache. Well for most of our users the binaries are more important but
> >> for that we have the 1-click downloads on www.openoffice.org
> >
> > Don't get me wrong. These are good arguments - also because we are
> actually just one of many ASF podlings.
> >
> > However, it is still another location to take care for any changes.
>
> I would like to have a release defined by an xml and/or doap files which
> can be transformed using xslt and other tools into download webpages in
> either html or mdtext. These files would also be useful for other project
> processes.
>
> That would become the one place for the build, qa, release, and website.
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
>
>
Maybe next week, I will start on a new "spec" page for our DL functions. It
will be very general but I'm hoping we can use a wiki page for
brainstorming about data structures, logic , output, etc.  So, this is a
good idea. Stay tuned...

>
> > My 2 ct.
> >
> > Marcus
> >
> >
> >
> >> All is
> >>> (will be) available in the download area (currently here:
> >>> "http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html"
> and
> >>> "http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/other_new_dl.html").
> >>>
> >>> Otherwise I would suggest that the webpage points only to the already
> >>> existing download webpages. Then we will have less work when updating
> >>> downloads.
> >>>
> >>> Source --> http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html#tested-sdk
> >>> SDK --> http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html#tested-sdk
> >>> Binaries --> http://www.openoffice.org/download/index.html
> >>> Checksums --> http://www.openoffice.org/download/checksums.html
> >>>
> >>> If you want to mention the legacy builds it would be great to point
> also
> >>> here to the respective webpage:
> >>> "http://www.openoffice.org/download/legacy/index.html".
> >>>
> >>> If you want to mention the archive in general (prior OOo 3.3.0) this
> >>> link is helping: "http://www.openoffice.org/download/archive.html".
> >>>
> >>> Marcus
>
>


-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MzK

"Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
 And life has a funny way of helping you out
 Helping you out."
                            -- "Ironic", Alanis Morissette

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
On May 7, 2012, at 1:38 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

> Am 05/07/2012 11:00 AM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:
>> On 5/6/12 2:51 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>> Am 05/06/2012 01:31 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:
>>>> On 5/6/12 1:02 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>>>>> On 05/05/2012 Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>>>>> The checksums file is ready:
>>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/checksums_new_dl.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> It's nice, even though a bit scary (four different verification
>>>>> mechanisms are probably overkill); but this will satisfy everybody, so
>>>>> OK.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I see that many links in that page are broken (e.g., links to Windows
>>>>> builds, to 64-bit DEBs and so on); I tend to believe this is known
>>>>> and/or wanted for the time being, but, if it isn't, just click
>>>>> around on
>>>>> that page and you will see plenty of broken links.
>>>> 
>>>> we can potentially drop one sha checksum ;-)
>>> 
>>> Yes, for sure.
>>> 
>>>> I have drafted the download page on the project page.
>>> 
>>> That's good.
>>> 
>>> An additional link to the (upcoming) official announcement (mail
>>> archive, blog post, etc.) would be good.
>>> 
>>>> http://openofficeorg.staging.apache.org/openofficeorg/downloads.html
>>>> 
>>>> Review is appreciated.
>>>> 
>>>> - downloads of source files via Apache mirrors
>>>> - SDK as well
>>>> - checksum files directly from dist
>>> 
>>> Do you have any special reason to show download links also here?
>> 
>> I initially had only the source files listed there but based on some
>> discussion (email) to use the Apache mirrors for the SDK as well I
>> decided to list the SDK here as well.
>> 
>> I think it is common to list at least the source tarballs on this
>> download page directly because the src tarballs are very important for
>> Apache. Well for most of our users the binaries are more important but
>> for that we have the 1-click downloads on www.openoffice.org
> 
> Don't get me wrong. These are good arguments - also because we are actually just one of many ASF podlings.
> 
> However, it is still another location to take care for any changes.

I would like to have a release defined by an xml and/or doap files which can be transformed using xslt and other tools into download webpages in either html or mdtext. These files would also be useful for other project processes.

That would become the one place for the build, qa, release, and website. 

Regards,
Dave


> 
> My 2 ct.
> 
> Marcus
> 
> 
> 
>> All is
>>> (will be) available in the download area (currently here:
>>> "http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html" and
>>> "http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/other_new_dl.html").
>>> 
>>> Otherwise I would suggest that the webpage points only to the already
>>> existing download webpages. Then we will have less work when updating
>>> downloads.
>>> 
>>> Source --> http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html#tested-sdk
>>> SDK --> http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html#tested-sdk
>>> Binaries --> http://www.openoffice.org/download/index.html
>>> Checksums --> http://www.openoffice.org/download/checksums.html
>>> 
>>> If you want to mention the legacy builds it would be great to point also
>>> here to the respective webpage:
>>> "http://www.openoffice.org/download/legacy/index.html".
>>> 
>>> If you want to mention the archive in general (prior OOo 3.3.0) this
>>> link is helping: "http://www.openoffice.org/download/archive.html".
>>> 
>>> Marcus


Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 05/07/2012 11:00 AM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:
> On 5/6/12 2:51 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>> Am 05/06/2012 01:31 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:
>>> On 5/6/12 1:02 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>>>> On 05/05/2012 Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>>>> The checksums file is ready:
>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/checksums_new_dl.html
>>>>
>>>> It's nice, even though a bit scary (four different verification
>>>> mechanisms are probably overkill); but this will satisfy everybody, so
>>>> OK.
>>>>
>>>> I see that many links in that page are broken (e.g., links to Windows
>>>> builds, to 64-bit DEBs and so on); I tend to believe this is known
>>>> and/or wanted for the time being, but, if it isn't, just click
>>>> around on
>>>> that page and you will see plenty of broken links.
>>>
>>> we can potentially drop one sha checksum ;-)
>>
>> Yes, for sure.
>>
>>> I have drafted the download page on the project page.
>>
>> That's good.
>>
>> An additional link to the (upcoming) official announcement (mail
>> archive, blog post, etc.) would be good.
>>
>>> http://openofficeorg.staging.apache.org/openofficeorg/downloads.html
>>>
>>> Review is appreciated.
>>>
>>> - downloads of source files via Apache mirrors
>>> - SDK as well
>>> - checksum files directly from dist
>>
>> Do you have any special reason to show download links also here?
>
> I initially had only the source files listed there but based on some
> discussion (email) to use the Apache mirrors for the SDK as well I
> decided to list the SDK here as well.
>
> I think it is common to list at least the source tarballs on this
> download page directly because the src tarballs are very important for
> Apache. Well for most of our users the binaries are more important but
> for that we have the 1-click downloads on www.openoffice.org

Don't get me wrong. These are good arguments - also because we are 
actually just one of many ASF podlings.

However, it is still another location to take care for any changes.

My 2 ct.

Marcus



> All is
>> (will be) available in the download area (currently here:
>> "http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html" and
>> "http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/other_new_dl.html").
>>
>> Otherwise I would suggest that the webpage points only to the already
>> existing download webpages. Then we will have less work when updating
>> downloads.
>>
>> Source --> http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html#tested-sdk
>> SDK --> http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html#tested-sdk
>> Binaries --> http://www.openoffice.org/download/index.html
>> Checksums --> http://www.openoffice.org/download/checksums.html
>>
>> If you want to mention the legacy builds it would be great to point also
>> here to the respective webpage:
>> "http://www.openoffice.org/download/legacy/index.html".
>>
>> If you want to mention the archive in general (prior OOo 3.3.0) this
>> link is helping: "http://www.openoffice.org/download/archive.html".
>>
>> Marcus

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@googlemail.com>.
On 5/6/12 2:51 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
> Am 05/06/2012 01:31 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:
>> On 5/6/12 1:02 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>>> On 05/05/2012 Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>>> The checksums file is ready:
>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/checksums_new_dl.html
>>>
>>> It's nice, even though a bit scary (four different verification
>>> mechanisms are probably overkill); but this will satisfy everybody, so
>>> OK.
>>>
>>> I see that many links in that page are broken (e.g., links to Windows
>>> builds, to 64-bit DEBs and so on); I tend to believe this is known
>>> and/or wanted for the time being, but, if it isn't, just click around on
>>> that page and you will see plenty of broken links.
>>
>> we can potentially drop one sha checksum ;-)
>
> Yes, for sure.
>
>> I have drafted the download page on the project page.
>
> That's good.
>
> An additional link to the (upcoming) official announcement (mail
> archive, blog post, etc.) would be good.
>
>> http://openofficeorg.staging.apache.org/openofficeorg/downloads.html
>>
>> Review is appreciated.
>>
>> - downloads of source files via Apache mirrors
>> - SDK as well
>> - checksum files directly from dist
>
> Do you have any special reason to show download links also here?

I initially had only the source files listed there but based on some 
discussion (email) to use the Apache mirrors for the SDK as well I 
decided to list the SDK here as well.

I think it is common to list at least the source tarballs on this 
download page directly because the src tarballs are very important for
Apache. Well for most of our users the binaries are more important but 
for that we have the 1-click downloads on www.openoffice.org

Juergen


All is
> (will be) available in the download area (currently here:
> "http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html" and
> "http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/other_new_dl.html").
>
> Otherwise I would suggest that the webpage points only to the already
> existing download webpages. Then we will have less work when updating
> downloads.
>
> Source --> http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html#tested-sdk
> SDK --> http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html#tested-sdk
> Binaries --> http://www.openoffice.org/download/index.html
> Checksums --> http://www.openoffice.org/download/checksums.html
>
> If you want to mention the legacy builds it would be great to point also
> here to the respective webpage:
> "http://www.openoffice.org/download/legacy/index.html".
>
> If you want to mention the archive in general (prior OOo 3.3.0) this
> link is helping: "http://www.openoffice.org/download/archive.html".
>
> Marcus


Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 05/06/2012 01:31 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:
> On 5/6/12 1:02 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>> On 05/05/2012 Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>> The checksums file is ready:
>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/checksums_new_dl.html
>>
>> It's nice, even though a bit scary (four different verification
>> mechanisms are probably overkill); but this will satisfy everybody, so
>> OK.
>>
>> I see that many links in that page are broken (e.g., links to Windows
>> builds, to 64-bit DEBs and so on); I tend to believe this is known
>> and/or wanted for the time being, but, if it isn't, just click around on
>> that page and you will see plenty of broken links.
>
> we can potentially drop one sha checksum ;-)

Yes, for sure.

> I have drafted the download page on the project page.

That's good.

An additional link to the (upcoming) official announcement (mail 
archive, blog post, etc.) would be good.

> http://openofficeorg.staging.apache.org/openofficeorg/downloads.html
>
> Review is appreciated.
>
> - downloads of source files via Apache mirrors
> - SDK as well
> - checksum files directly from dist

Do you have any special reason to show download links also here? All is 
(will be) available in the download area (currently here:
"http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html" and 
"http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/other_new_dl.html").

Otherwise I would suggest that the webpage points only to the already 
existing download webpages. Then we will have less work when updating 
downloads.

Source --> http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html#tested-sdk
SDK    --> http://www.openoffice.org/download/other.html#tested-sdk
Binaries --> http://www.openoffice.org/download/index.html
Checksums --> http://www.openoffice.org/download/checksums.html

If you want to mention the legacy builds it would be great to point also 
here to the respective webpage: 
"http://www.openoffice.org/download/legacy/index.html".

If you want to mention the archive in general (prior OOo 3.3.0) this 
link is helping: "http://www.openoffice.org/download/archive.html".

Marcus

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@googlemail.com>.
On 5/6/12 1:02 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> On 05/05/2012 Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>> The checksums file is ready:
>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/checksums_new_dl.html
>
> It's nice, even though a bit scary (four different verification
> mechanisms are probably overkill); but this will satisfy everybody, so OK.
>
> I see that many links in that page are broken (e.g., links to Windows
> builds, to 64-bit DEBs and so on); I tend to believe this is known
> and/or wanted for the time being, but, if it isn't, just click around on
> that page and you will see plenty of broken links.

we can potentially drop one sha checksum ;-)

I have drafted the download page on the project page.

http://openofficeorg.staging.apache.org/openofficeorg/downloads.html

Review is appreciated.

- downloads of source files via Apache mirrors
- SDK as well
- checksum files directly from dist

Juergen

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 05/06/2012 06:50 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:
> On 5/6/12 5:45 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>> Am 05/06/2012 05:24 PM, schrieb Juergen Schmidt:
>>> On Sunday, 6. May 2012 at 14:19, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>>> Am 05/06/2012 01:02 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
>>>>> On 05/05/2012 Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>>>>> The checksums file is ready:
>>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/checksums_new_dl.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's nice, even though a bit scary (four different verification
>>>>> mechanisms are probably overkill); but this will satisfy everybody,
>>>>> so OK.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, sometimes you will see how it looks not before it's finished. IMHO
>>>> for the AOO 3.4.0 release and a bit later this will be the location for
>>>> hashes.
>>>>
>>>> Juergen mentioned to put the links into the green download box. I think
>>>> this is a good idea and will be implemented after the release. So, we
>>>> will have then the "checksums.html" as fallback.
>>>>
>>>>> I see that many links in that page are broken (e.g., links to Windows
>>>>> builds, to 64-bit DEBs and so on); I tend to believe this is known
>>>>> and/or wanted for the time being, but, if it isn't, just click
>>>>> around on
>>>>> that page and you will see plenty of broken links.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, this is known as I wrote already that there are no localized
>>>> Windows builds at all and no Linux x86-64 full install builds, the same
>>>> for the hash files, as you can see here:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/it/3.4.0/
>>> I will check it asap later when I am back home. It must be an error.
>>
>> Great. Hopefully enough time to upload them, too.
>
> so the files are now available on dist. It was a tiny typo in my script.

OK, I will wait until they are finally visible.

> A clear pointer or private email a little bit earlier would have been
> great ;-) I simply have overseen it. I thought I had double checked it.

You are right. Sorry for too less visibility.

Please see also my response in this thread to Andrea's post with his 
list. There are some more mistakes.

Marcus

>>> Do you know of more missing files?
>>
>> No.
>>
>> @Andrea:
>> You have checked the links on the checksums webpage. Can you confirm
>> that the hash file for these files only are missing? Or have you seen
>> other files?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Marcus
>>
>>
>>
>>>> I think from here the builds will be distributed to the ASF and SF
>>>> mirrors, right? Hopefully someone is working on this issue. *wink*
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your feedback.
>>>>
>>>> Marcus

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@googlemail.com>.
On 5/6/12 6:50 PM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> On 5/6/12 5:45 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>> Am 05/06/2012 05:24 PM, schrieb Juergen Schmidt:
>>> On Sunday, 6. May 2012 at 14:19, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>>> Am 05/06/2012 01:02 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
>>>>> On 05/05/2012 Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>>>>> The checksums file is ready:
>>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/checksums_new_dl.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> It's nice, even though a bit scary (four different verification
>>>>> mechanisms are probably overkill); but this will satisfy everybody,
>>>>> so OK.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, sometimes you will see how it looks not before it's finished. IMHO
>>>> for the AOO 3.4.0 release and a bit later this will be the location for
>>>> hashes.
>>>>
>>>> Juergen mentioned to put the links into the green download box. I think
>>>> this is a good idea and will be implemented after the release. So, we
>>>> will have then the "checksums.html" as fallback.
>>>>
>>>>> I see that many links in that page are broken (e.g., links to Windows
>>>>> builds, to 64-bit DEBs and so on); I tend to believe this is known
>>>>> and/or wanted for the time being, but, if it isn't, just click
>>>>> around on
>>>>> that page and you will see plenty of broken links.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Yes, this is known as I wrote already that there are no localized
>>>> Windows builds at all and no Linux x86-64 full install builds, the same
>>>> for the hash files, as you can see here:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/it/3.4.0/
>>> I will check it asap later when I am back home. It must be an error.
>>
>> Great. Hopefully enough time to upload them, too.
>
> so the files are now available on dist. It was a tiny typo in my script.
>
> A clear pointer or private email a little bit earlier would have been
> great ;-) I simply have overseen it. I thought I had double checked it.

We have to take care of en-GB, we have no Linux packages for en-GB. I 
stumbled over this fact when I again double checked the dist folder.

I would suggest that we drop it completely if it is to complicate to 
adapt the download script.

I have an updated localization for en-GB anyway and we can include it in 
the next run.

I don't see it too critical.

Juergen


>
> Juergen
>
>
>>
>>> Do you know of more missing files?
>>
>> No.
>>
>> @Andrea:
>> You have checked the links on the checksums webpage. Can you confirm
>> that the hash file for these files only are missing? Or have you seen
>> other files?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Marcus
>>
>>
>>
>>>> I think from here the builds will be distributed to the ASF and SF
>>>> mirrors, right? Hopefully someone is working on this issue. *wink*
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for your feedback.
>>>>
>>>> Marcus
>


Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 05/07/2012 09:08 PM, schrieb Juergen Schmidt:
> On Monday, 7. May 2012 at 20:53, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>> Juergen Schmidt wrote:
>>>>>> [3.4.0_checksums.html]
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> well a lot of room for improvements. The pages with the centered
>>> tables with different widths looks of course not really professional
>>> or what do others think?
>>>
>>
>>
>> Well, I'm glad that Marcus did it, it's not bad and it was very
>> relieving for me to be able to just link to it from the Italian download
>> page (which is much worse, by the way... but will gradually get better)
>> instead of copying and pasting the MD5SUMs as usual.
>>
> I think more of an automatic generated table or table snippet  that can be easy used in other pages as well (included translated pages). A unique design where only the language changed makes a lot of things easier.

For the RC and Beta releases there was already an automatically created 
table with download links working. But not for the "other.html" webpage 
as there was no pattern that could be followed.

But even this is on the list for improvements as we now will release all 
languages and platforms as the same time. This will make things easier.

> It's indeed painful todo it manually, believe me I did often enough in the wiki in the past weeks.
>
> When I like something at LibO then it is their cleaner webpage. But don't get me wrong we can and will find our own way to provide a clean page in the future.
>
> It is not only the technical realization but also the design and I hope some volunteer web designer will be interested to proof their skills here in the future ;-)

Yes, this would be also my wish. Best way to improve the design.

Marcus


Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by Juergen Schmidt <jo...@googlemail.com>.
On Monday, 7. May 2012 at 20:53, Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> Juergen Schmidt wrote:
> > > > > [3.4.0_checksums.html]
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > well a lot of room for improvements. The pages with the centered
> > tables with different widths looks of course not really professional
> > or what do others think?
> > 
> 
> 
> Well, I'm glad that Marcus did it, it's not bad and it was very 
> relieving for me to be able to just link to it from the Italian download 
> page (which is much worse, by the way... but will gradually get better) 
> instead of copying and pasting the MD5SUMs as usual.
> 
I think more of an automatic generated table or table snippet  that can be easy used in other pages as well (included translated pages). A unique design where only the language changed makes a lot of things easier.
It's indeed painful todo it manually, believe me I did often enough in the wiki in the past weeks.

When I like something at LibO then it is their cleaner webpage. But don't get me wrong we can and will find our own way to provide a clean page in the future.

It is not only the technical realization but also the design and I hope some volunteer web designer will be interested to proof their skills here in the future ;-)

Juergen

> Regards,
> Andrea.
> 
> 



Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
Juergen Schmidt wrote:
>>>> [3.4.0_checksums.html]
> well a lot of room for improvements. The pages with the centered
> tables with different widths looks of course not really professional
> or what do others think?

Well, I'm glad that Marcus did it, it's not bad and it was very 
relieving for me to be able to just link to it from the Italian download 
page (which is much worse, by the way... but will gradually get better) 
instead of copying and pasting the MD5SUMs as usual.

Regards,
   Andrea.

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 05/07/2012 11:05 PM, schrieb Dave Fisher:
>
> On May 7, 2012, at 1:55 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>
>> Am 05/07/2012 08:27 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
>>> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Juergen Schmidt<jogischmidt@googlemail.com
>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Monday, 7. May 2012 at 18:33, Kay Schenk wrote:
>>>>> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Jürgen Schmidt
>>>>> <jo...@googlemail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/7/12 5:32 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 3:38 AM, Andrea Pescetti<pe...@apache.org>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 06/05/2012 Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It's much improved now, but it seems we still miss several files
>>>> unless
>>>>>>>>> the upload is still ongoing. ...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_****3.4.0_Linux_x86-64_install-****
>>>>>>>>> deb_LG.tar.gz
>>>>>>>>> Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_****3.4.0_Linux_x86-64_install-****
>>>>>>>>> rpm_LG.tar.gz
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> for virtually all values of LG (ar, cs, de and so on).
>>>>>>>> All files listed in
>>>>>>>>
>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/****download/test/checksums_new_****dl.html<
>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/checksums_new_**dl.html>
>>>>>>>> <http://www.openoffice.
>>>> **org/download/test/checksums_**new_dl.html<
>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/checksums_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> are now available. So now there shouldn't be any missing files any
>>>>>>>> longer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK, thanks for this...the "official" checksums file should now be
>>>> living
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/checksums/**
>>>>>>> 3.4.0_checksums.html<
>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/checksums/3.4.0_checksums.html
>>>>>
>>>>>>> .
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I need tomake sure this is the most recent version before moving on.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And, I do think this needed its own page...
>>>>>> you mean the checksums have to be on a separate page? Why? Why make it
>>>> so
>>>>>> complicate? I don't understand the reason.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pleas explain it to me, I am eager to learn ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't really give you an explanation except to say this is how it was
>>>>> done in the past. The current checksums page is quite large...they COULD
>>>> be
>>>>> tacked on to other.html I guess, but it just seems cleaner this
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> well a lot of room for improvements. The pages with the centered tables
>>>> with different widths looks of course not really professional or what do
>>>> others think?
>>
>> It's not that bad I guess. But sure it would go better.
>>
>> I've also realized that there are no bullet points display when doing a list with<ul>  or<ol>.
>
> Probably needs some css magic.

Yes, I would guess either in the "styles.css" or in the 
"exceptions.css". Let's see...

>>>> I really hope we can revamp the whole page in the future. A cleaner,
>>>> simpler design. Consistent translated content with a modern fresh design ;-)
>>
>> Sure. However, this needs time. An expert can do it maybe in less time. But I'm just a little volunteer in his spare time that has less knowledge with HTML/CSS/JS than you with the AOO source code and full time. ;-)
>>
>>> I understand. But, I think Marcus did a GREAT job with this in the time we
>>> had to get this going.  A LOT of work really...
>>>
>>> We do have a lot of changes and considerations for the future -- no
>>> disagreement from me there.  Mock-ups would be appreciated. :)
>>
>> Or some links to other websites as reference.
>
> These can be on the wiki that Kay will make. There is a whole range. I suspect that there is some hovering magic we can do, but perhaps simple is best. Our users don't always have a lot of bandwidth.

You mean this one, right?
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Improvements+for+the+download+webpages

> More in coming weeks. Great work Marcus, Kay and Jürgen and others!

Thanks. :-)

Marcus


Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
On May 7, 2012, at 1:55 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

> Am 05/07/2012 08:27 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
>> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Juergen Schmidt<jogischmidt@googlemail.com
>>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On Monday, 7. May 2012 at 18:33, Kay Schenk wrote:
>>>> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Jürgen Schmidt
>>>> <jo...@googlemail.com>wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> On 5/7/12 5:32 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 3:38 AM, Andrea Pescetti<pe...@apache.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 06/05/2012 Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> It's much improved now, but it seems we still miss several files
>>> unless
>>>>>>>> the upload is still ongoing. ...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_****3.4.0_Linux_x86-64_install-****
>>>>>>>> deb_LG.tar.gz
>>>>>>>> Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_****3.4.0_Linux_x86-64_install-****
>>>>>>>> rpm_LG.tar.gz
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> for virtually all values of LG (ar, cs, de and so on).
>>>>>>> All files listed in
>>>>>>> 
>>> http://www.openoffice.org/****download/test/checksums_new_****dl.html<
>>> http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/checksums_new_**dl.html>
>>>>>>> <http://www.openoffice.
>>> **org/download/test/checksums_**new_dl.html<
>>> http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/checksums_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> are now available. So now there shouldn't be any missing files any
>>>>>>> longer.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> OK, thanks for this...the "official" checksums file should now be
>>> living
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/checksums/**
>>>>>> 3.4.0_checksums.html<
>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/checksums/3.4.0_checksums.html
>>>> 
>>>>>> .
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I need tomake sure this is the most recent version before moving on.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> And, I do think this needed its own page...
>>>>> you mean the checksums have to be on a separate page? Why? Why make it
>>> so
>>>>> complicate? I don't understand the reason.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Pleas explain it to me, I am eager to learn ;-)
>>>> 
>>>> I can't really give you an explanation except to say this is how it was
>>>> done in the past. The current checksums page is quite large...they COULD
>>> be
>>>> tacked on to other.html I guess, but it just seems cleaner this
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> well a lot of room for improvements. The pages with the centered tables
>>> with different widths looks of course not really professional or what do
>>> others think?
> 
> It's not that bad I guess. But sure it would go better.
> 
> I've also realized that there are no bullet points display when doing a list with <ul> or <ol>.

Probably needs some css magic.

>>> I really hope we can revamp the whole page in the future. A cleaner,
>>> simpler design. Consistent translated content with a modern fresh design ;-)
> 
> Sure. However, this needs time. An expert can do it maybe in less time. But I'm just a little volunteer in his spare time that has less knowledge with HTML/CSS/JS than you with the AOO source code and full time. ;-)
> 
>> I understand. But, I think Marcus did a GREAT job with this in the time we
>> had to get this going.  A LOT of work really...
>> 
>> We do have a lot of changes and considerations for the future -- no
>> disagreement from me there.  Mock-ups would be appreciated. :)
> 
> Or some links to other websites as reference.

These can be on the wiki that Kay will make. There is a whole range. I suspect that there is some hovering magic we can do, but perhaps simple is best. Our users don't always have a lot of bandwidth.

More in coming weeks. Great work Marcus, Kay and Jürgen and others!

Regards,
Dave

Regards,
Dave


> 
> Marcus


Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 05/07/2012 08:27 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Juergen Schmidt<jogischmidt@googlemail.com
>> wrote:
>
>> On Monday, 7. May 2012 at 18:33, Kay Schenk wrote:
>>> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Jürgen Schmidt
>>> <jo...@googlemail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 5/7/12 5:32 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 3:38 AM, Andrea Pescetti<pe...@apache.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 06/05/2012 Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's much improved now, but it seems we still miss several files
>> unless
>>>>>>> the upload is still ongoing. ...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_****3.4.0_Linux_x86-64_install-****
>>>>>>> deb_LG.tar.gz
>>>>>>> Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_****3.4.0_Linux_x86-64_install-****
>>>>>>> rpm_LG.tar.gz
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> for virtually all values of LG (ar, cs, de and so on).
>>>>>> All files listed in
>>>>>>
>> http://www.openoffice.org/****download/test/checksums_new_****dl.html<
>> http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/checksums_new_**dl.html>
>>>>>> <http://www.openoffice.
>> **org/download/test/checksums_**new_dl.html<
>> http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/checksums_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> are now available. So now there shouldn't be any missing files any
>>>>>> longer.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> OK, thanks for this...the "official" checksums file should now be
>> living
>>>>> in
>>>>>
>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/checksums/**
>>>>> 3.4.0_checksums.html<
>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/checksums/3.4.0_checksums.html
>>>
>>>>> .
>>>>>
>>>>> I need tomake sure this is the most recent version before moving on.
>>>>>
>>>>> And, I do think this needed its own page...
>>>> you mean the checksums have to be on a separate page? Why? Why make it
>> so
>>>> complicate? I don't understand the reason.
>>>>
>>>> Pleas explain it to me, I am eager to learn ;-)
>>>
>>> I can't really give you an explanation except to say this is how it was
>>> done in the past. The current checksums page is quite large...they COULD
>> be
>>> tacked on to other.html I guess, but it just seems cleaner this
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> well a lot of room for improvements. The pages with the centered tables
>> with different widths looks of course not really professional or what do
>> others think?

It's not that bad I guess. But sure it would go better.

I've also realized that there are no bullet points display when doing a 
list with <ul> or <ol>.

>> I really hope we can revamp the whole page in the future. A cleaner,
>> simpler design. Consistent translated content with a modern fresh design ;-)

Sure. However, this needs time. An expert can do it maybe in less time. 
But I'm just a little volunteer in his spare time that has less 
knowledge with HTML/CSS/JS than you with the AOO source code and full 
time. ;-)

> I understand. But, I think Marcus did a GREAT job with this in the time we
> had to get this going.  A LOT of work really...
>
> We do have a lot of changes and considerations for the future -- no
> disagreement from me there.  Mock-ups would be appreciated. :)

Or some links to other websites as reference.

Marcus

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 10:11 AM, Juergen Schmidt <jogischmidt@googlemail.com
> wrote:

> On Monday, 7. May 2012 at 18:33, Kay Schenk wrote:
> > On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Jürgen Schmidt
> > <jo...@googlemail.com>wrote:
> >
> > > On 5/7/12 5:32 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 3:38 AM, Andrea Pescetti<pe...@apache.org>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On 06/05/2012 Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > It's much improved now, but it seems we still miss several files
> unless
> > > > > > the upload is still ongoing. ...
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_****3.4.0_Linux_x86-64_install-****
> > > > > > deb_LG.tar.gz
> > > > > > Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_****3.4.0_Linux_x86-64_install-****
> > > > > > rpm_LG.tar.gz
> > > > > >
> > > > > > for virtually all values of LG (ar, cs, de and so on).
> > > > > All files listed in
> > > > >
> http://www.openoffice.org/****download/test/checksums_new_****dl.html<
> http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/checksums_new_**dl.html>
> > > > > <http://www.openoffice.
> **org/download/test/checksums_**new_dl.html<
> http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/checksums_new_dl.html>
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > are now available. So now there shouldn't be any missing files any
> > > > > longer.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > OK, thanks for this...the "official" checksums file should now be
> living
> > > > in
> > > >
> > > > http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/checksums/**
> > > > 3.4.0_checksums.html<
> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/checksums/3.4.0_checksums.html
> >
> > > > .
> > > >
> > > > I need tomake sure this is the most recent version before moving on.
> > > >
> > > > And, I do think this needed its own page...
> > > you mean the checksums have to be on a separate page? Why? Why make it
> so
> > > complicate? I don't understand the reason.
> > >
> > > Pleas explain it to me, I am eager to learn ;-)
> >
> > I can't really give you an explanation except to say this is how it was
> > done in the past. The current checksums page is quite large...they COULD
> be
> > tacked on to other.html I guess, but it just seems cleaner this
> >
> >
>
>
> well a lot of room for improvements. The pages with the centered tables
> with different widths looks of course not really professional or what do
> others think?
>
> I really hope we can revamp the whole page in the future. A cleaner,
> simpler design. Consistent translated content with a modern fresh design ;-)
>

I understand. But, I think Marcus did a GREAT job with this in the time we
had to get this going.  A LOT of work really...

We do have a lot of changes and considerations for the future -- no
disagreement from me there.  Mock-ups would be appreciated. :)




> Juergen
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Juergen
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > ..back in a bit after I deal with personal home related issues.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Andrea.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> > MzK
> >
> > "Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
> > And life has a funny way of helping you out
> > Helping you out."
> > -- "Ironic", Alanis Morissette
> >
> >
>
>
>


-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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"Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
 And life has a funny way of helping you out
 Helping you out."
                            -- "Ironic", Alanis Morissette

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by Juergen Schmidt <jo...@googlemail.com>.
On Monday, 7. May 2012 at 18:33, Kay Schenk wrote:
> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Jürgen Schmidt
> <jo...@googlemail.com>wrote:
>  
> > On 5/7/12 5:32 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
> >  
> > > On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 3:38 AM, Andrea Pescetti<pe...@apache.org>
> > > wrote:
> > >  
> > > On 06/05/2012 Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> > > >  
> > > > It's much improved now, but it seems we still miss several files unless
> > > > > the upload is still ongoing. ...
> > > > >  
> > > > > Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_****3.4.0_Linux_x86-64_install-****
> > > > > deb_LG.tar.gz
> > > > > Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_****3.4.0_Linux_x86-64_install-****
> > > > > rpm_LG.tar.gz
> > > > >  
> > > > > for virtually all values of LG (ar, cs, de and so on).
> > > > All files listed in
> > > > http://www.openoffice.org/****download/test/checksums_new_****dl.html<http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/checksums_new_**dl.html>
> > > > <http://www.openoffice.**org/download/test/checksums_**new_dl.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/checksums_new_dl.html>
> > > > >  
> > > >  
> > > >  
> > > > are now available. So now there shouldn't be any missing files any
> > > > longer.
> > > >  
> > >  
> > > OK, thanks for this...the "official" checksums file should now be living
> > > in
> > >  
> > > http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/checksums/**
> > > 3.4.0_checksums.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/checksums/3.4.0_checksums.html>
> > > .
> > >  
> > > I need tomake sure this is the most recent version before moving on.
> > >  
> > > And, I do think this needed its own page...
> > you mean the checksums have to be on a separate page? Why? Why make it so
> > complicate? I don't understand the reason.
> >  
> > Pleas explain it to me, I am eager to learn ;-)
>  
> I can't really give you an explanation except to say this is how it was
> done in the past. The current checksums page is quite large...they COULD be
> tacked on to other.html I guess, but it just seems cleaner this  
>  
>  


well a lot of room for improvements. The pages with the centered tables with different widths looks of course not really professional or what do others think?

I really hope we can revamp the whole page in the future. A cleaner, simpler design. Consistent translated content with a modern fresh design ;-)

Juergen
>  
>  
> >  
> > Juergen
> >  
> >  
> >  
> >  
> > > ..back in a bit after I deal with personal home related issues.
> > >  
> > >  
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Andrea.
> > > >  
> > >  
> > >  
> >  
> >  
>  
>  
>  
> --  
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> MzK
>  
> "Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
> And life has a funny way of helping you out
> Helping you out."
> -- "Ironic", Alanis Morissette
>  
>  



Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Jürgen Schmidt
<jo...@googlemail.com>wrote:

> On 5/7/12 5:32 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
>
>> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 3:38 AM, Andrea Pescetti<pe...@apache.org>
>>  wrote:
>>
>>  On 06/05/2012 Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>>>
>>>  It's much improved now, but it seems we still miss several files unless
>>>> the upload is still ongoing. ...
>>>>
>>>> Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_****3.4.0_Linux_x86-64_install-****
>>>> deb_LG.tar.gz
>>>> Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_****3.4.0_Linux_x86-64_install-****
>>>> rpm_LG.tar.gz
>>>>
>>>> for virtually all values of LG (ar, cs, de and so on).
>>>>
>>>>
>>> All files listed in
>>> http://www.openoffice.org/****download/test/checksums_new_****dl.html<http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/checksums_new_**dl.html>
>>> <http://www.openoffice.**org/download/test/checksums_**new_dl.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/checksums_new_dl.html>
>>> >
>>>
>>> are now available. So now there shouldn't be any missing files any
>>> longer.
>>>
>>>
>> OK, thanks for this...the "official" checksums file should now be living
>> in
>>
>>  http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/checksums/**
>> 3.4.0_checksums.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/checksums/3.4.0_checksums.html>
>> .
>>
>>  I need tomake sure this is the most recent version before moving on.
>>
>> And, I do think this needed its own page...
>>
> you mean the checksums have to be on a separate page? Why? Why make it so
> complicate? I don't understand the reason.
>
> Pleas explain it to me, I am eager to learn ;-)
>

I can't really give you an explanation except to say this is how it was
done in the past. The current checksums page is quite large...they COULD be
tacked on to other.html I guess, but it just seems cleaner this way.


>
> Juergen
>
>
>
>
>> ..back in a bit after I deal with personal home related issues.
>>
>>
>>> Regards,
>>>  Andrea.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>


-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MzK

"Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
 And life has a funny way of helping you out
 Helping you out."
                            -- "Ironic", Alanis Morissette

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@googlemail.com>.
On 5/7/12 5:32 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
> On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 3:38 AM, Andrea Pescetti<pe...@apache.org>  wrote:
>
>> On 06/05/2012 Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>>
>>> It's much improved now, but it seems we still miss several files unless
>>> the upload is still ongoing. ...
>>>
>>> Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_**3.4.0_Linux_x86-64_install-**deb_LG.tar.gz
>>> Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_**3.4.0_Linux_x86-64_install-**rpm_LG.tar.gz
>>> for virtually all values of LG (ar, cs, de and so on).
>>>
>>
>> All files listed in
>> http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/checksums_new_**dl.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/checksums_new_dl.html>
>> are now available. So now there shouldn't be any missing files any longer.
>>
>
> OK, thanks for this...the "official" checksums file should now be living in
>
>   http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/checksums/3.4.0_checksums.html.
>
>   I need tomake sure this is the most recent version before moving on.
>
> And, I do think this needed its own page...
you mean the checksums have to be on a separate page? Why? Why make it 
so complicate? I don't understand the reason.

Pleas explain it to me, I am eager to learn ;-)

Juergen


>
> ..back in a bit after I deal with personal home related issues.
>
>>
>> Regards,
>>   Andrea.
>>
>
>
>


Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, May 7, 2012 at 3:38 AM, Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org> wrote:

> On 06/05/2012 Andrea Pescetti wrote:
>
>> It's much improved now, but it seems we still miss several files unless
>> the upload is still ongoing. ...
>>
>> Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_**3.4.0_Linux_x86-64_install-**deb_LG.tar.gz
>> Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_**3.4.0_Linux_x86-64_install-**rpm_LG.tar.gz
>> for virtually all values of LG (ar, cs, de and so on).
>>
>
> All files listed in
> http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/checksums_new_**dl.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/checksums_new_dl.html>
> are now available. So now there shouldn't be any missing files any longer.
>

OK, thanks for this...the "official" checksums file should now be living in

 http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/checksums/3.4.0_checksums.html.

 I need tomake sure this is the most recent version before moving on.

And, I do think this needed its own page...

..back in a bit after I deal with personal home related issues.

>
> Regards,
>  Andrea.
>



-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MzK

"Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
 And life has a funny way of helping you out
 Helping you out."
                            -- "Ironic", Alanis Morissette

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
On 06/05/2012 Andrea Pescetti wrote:
> It's much improved now, but it seems we still miss several files unless
> the upload is still ongoing. ...
> Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_LG.tar.gz
> Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_LG.tar.gz
> for virtually all values of LG (ar, cs, de and so on).

All files listed in
http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/checksums_new_dl.html
are now available. So now there shouldn't be any missing files any longer.

Regards,
   Andrea.

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
> so the files are now available on dist. It was a tiny typo in my script.

It's much improved now, but it seems we still miss several files unless 
the upload is still ongoing.

The (updated) list is at
http://people.apache.org/~pescetti/tmp/missing-checksums.txt
but the pattern is rather clear: we miss

Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Linux_x86-64_install-deb_LG.tar.gz

Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Linux_x86-64_install-rpm_LG.tar.gz

for virtually all values of LG (ar, cs, de and so on).

Regards,
   Andrea.

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@googlemail.com>.
On 5/6/12 5:45 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
> Am 05/06/2012 05:24 PM, schrieb Juergen Schmidt:
>> On Sunday, 6. May 2012 at 14:19, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>> Am 05/06/2012 01:02 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
>>>> On 05/05/2012 Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>>>> The checksums file is ready:
>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/checksums_new_dl.html
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It's nice, even though a bit scary (four different verification
>>>> mechanisms are probably overkill); but this will satisfy everybody,
>>>> so OK.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, sometimes you will see how it looks not before it's finished. IMHO
>>> for the AOO 3.4.0 release and a bit later this will be the location for
>>> hashes.
>>>
>>> Juergen mentioned to put the links into the green download box. I think
>>> this is a good idea and will be implemented after the release. So, we
>>> will have then the "checksums.html" as fallback.
>>>
>>>> I see that many links in that page are broken (e.g., links to Windows
>>>> builds, to 64-bit DEBs and so on); I tend to believe this is known
>>>> and/or wanted for the time being, but, if it isn't, just click
>>>> around on
>>>> that page and you will see plenty of broken links.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, this is known as I wrote already that there are no localized
>>> Windows builds at all and no Linux x86-64 full install builds, the same
>>> for the hash files, as you can see here:
>>>
>>> http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/it/3.4.0/
>> I will check it asap later when I am back home. It must be an error.
>
> Great. Hopefully enough time to upload them, too.

so the files are now available on dist. It was a tiny typo in my script.

A clear pointer or private email a little bit earlier would have been 
great ;-) I simply have overseen it. I thought I had double checked it.

Juergen


>
>> Do you know of more missing files?
>
> No.
>
> @Andrea:
> You have checked the links on the checksums webpage. Can you confirm
> that the hash file for these files only are missing? Or have you seen
> other files?
>
> Thanks
>
> Marcus
>
>
>
>>> I think from here the builds will be distributed to the ASF and SF
>>> mirrors, right? Hopefully someone is working on this issue. *wink*
>>>
>>> Thanks for your feedback.
>>>
>>> Marcus


Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 05/06/2012 08:46 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
> On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Marcus (OOo)<ma...@wtnet.de>  wrote:
>
>> Am 05/06/2012 07:39 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:
>>
>>   On 5/6/12 7:28 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>>
>>>> Am 05/06/2012 07:14 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:
>>>>
>>>>> On 5/6/12 7:08 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 05/06/2012 06:32 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**
>>>>>>>>>>>> checksums_new_dl.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/checksums_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>   Yes, this is known as I wrote already that there are no
>>>>>>>>>> localized
>>>>>>>>>> Windows builds at all and no Linux x86-64 full install builds
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> @Andrea:
>>>>>>>> You have checked the links on the checksums webpage. Can you confirm
>>>>>>>> that the hash file for these files only are missing? Or have you seen
>>>>>>>> other files?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I noticed the same pattern as you, i.e., Windows and Linux x86-64
>>>>>>> missing, but there are minor deviations. If this can help, the list of
>>>>>>> broken links to sha512 hashes follows (and, as far as I've seen, it
>>>>>>> seems to match the list of missing files):
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~**pescetti/tmp/missing-**checksums.txt<http://people.apache.org/%7Epescetti/tmp/missing-checksums.txt>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks a lot for the list. :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I can see that for localized builds the files are missing consistently
>>>>>> (the already stated Windows full install and Linux x86-64 full install
>>>>>> combination), except for en-GB, here all Linux and Linux x86-64 builds
>>>>>> are missing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> yes I have noticed as well, en-GB is completely missing. Either we drop
>>>>> en-GB completely or we drop it for Linux.
>>>>>
>>>>> That was probably a communication error but I don't see it as critical.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I think when en-GB gets diabled in "languages.js", then the green box
>>>> can point to the "other.html" webpage. And on that webpage we can leave
>>>> Mac OS and Windows as available. Or we drop it completely.
>>>>
>>>
>>> en-GB is removed from dist after I have talked with infra people in IRC
>>>
>>> It is cleaner and better to have it removed completely.
>>>
>>> So please remove en-GB from the supported language list for 3.4. It will
>>> be part of the net micro update 3.4.1 with the updated localization
>>>
>>
>> OK, committed. The testing webpages should be up-to-date.
>>
>
> wow! great work Marcus...OK, I just set up en-gb as non-supported on the
> mirrors so we should be ok with this one now. set up correctly in staging.

Thanks for taking care so fast. :-)

Marcus

>>   Furthermore, all SDK builds are named wrong. They have "3.4" as version
>>>>>> string. But it has to be "3.4.0".
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> that can't be changed and we have to live with 3.4
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> OK, I'll adapt it on the download webpage.
>>>>
>>>> Marcus
>>>>
>>>>   The links for following links are working nevertheless from your list
>>>>>> and from the checksums webpage:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/dist/**incubator/ooo/files/localized/**
>>>>>> en-GB/3.4.0/Apache_OpenOffice_**incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_**
>>>>>> install_en-GB.exe.sha512<http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/en-GB/3.4.0/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_install_en-GB.exe.sha512>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/dist/**incubator/ooo/files/localized/**
>>>>>> en-GB/3.4.0/Apache_OpenOffice_**incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_**
>>>>>> langpack_en-GB.exe.sha512<http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/en-GB/3.4.0/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_langpack_en-GB.exe.sha512>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Marcus
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>
>



-- 

Ciao

Marcus

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 11:09 AM, Marcus (OOo) <ma...@wtnet.de> wrote:

> Am 05/06/2012 07:39 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:
>
>  On 5/6/12 7:28 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>
>>> Am 05/06/2012 07:14 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:
>>>
>>>> On 5/6/12 7:08 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Am 05/06/2012 06:32 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**
>>>>>>>>>>> checksums_new_dl.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/checksums_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  Yes, this is known as I wrote already that there are no
>>>>>>>>> localized
>>>>>>>>> Windows builds at all and no Linux x86-64 full install builds
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> @Andrea:
>>>>>>> You have checked the links on the checksums webpage. Can you confirm
>>>>>>> that the hash file for these files only are missing? Or have you seen
>>>>>>> other files?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I noticed the same pattern as you, i.e., Windows and Linux x86-64
>>>>>> missing, but there are minor deviations. If this can help, the list of
>>>>>> broken links to sha512 hashes follows (and, as far as I've seen, it
>>>>>> seems to match the list of missing files):
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~**pescetti/tmp/missing-**checksums.txt<http://people.apache.org/%7Epescetti/tmp/missing-checksums.txt>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks a lot for the list. :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> I can see that for localized builds the files are missing consistently
>>>>> (the already stated Windows full install and Linux x86-64 full install
>>>>> combination), except for en-GB, here all Linux and Linux x86-64 builds
>>>>> are missing.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> yes I have noticed as well, en-GB is completely missing. Either we drop
>>>> en-GB completely or we drop it for Linux.
>>>>
>>>> That was probably a communication error but I don't see it as critical.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I think when en-GB gets diabled in "languages.js", then the green box
>>> can point to the "other.html" webpage. And on that webpage we can leave
>>> Mac OS and Windows as available. Or we drop it completely.
>>>
>>
>> en-GB is removed from dist after I have talked with infra people in IRC
>>
>> It is cleaner and better to have it removed completely.
>>
>> So please remove en-GB from the supported language list for 3.4. It will
>> be part of the net micro update 3.4.1 with the updated localization
>>
>
> OK, committed. The testing webpages should be up-to-date.
>

wow! great work Marcus...OK, I just set up en-gb as non-supported on the
mirrors so we should be ok with this one now. set up correctly in staging.


>
> Marcus
>
>
>  Furthermore, all SDK builds are named wrong. They have "3.4" as version
>>>>> string. But it has to be "3.4.0".
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> that can't be changed and we have to live with 3.4
>>>>
>>>
>>> OK, I'll adapt it on the download webpage.
>>>
>>> Marcus
>>>
>>>  The links for following links are working nevertheless from your list
>>>>> and from the checksums webpage:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.apache.org/dist/**incubator/ooo/files/localized/**
>>>>> en-GB/3.4.0/Apache_OpenOffice_**incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_**
>>>>> install_en-GB.exe.sha512<http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/en-GB/3.4.0/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_install_en-GB.exe.sha512>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.apache.org/dist/**incubator/ooo/files/localized/**
>>>>> en-GB/3.4.0/Apache_OpenOffice_**incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_**
>>>>> langpack_en-GB.exe.sha512<http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/en-GB/3.4.0/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_langpack_en-GB.exe.sha512>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Marcus
>>>>>
>>>>


-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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"Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
 And life has a funny way of helping you out
 Helping you out."
                            -- "Ironic", Alanis Morissette

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 05/06/2012 07:39 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:
> On 5/6/12 7:28 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>> Am 05/06/2012 07:14 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:
>>> On 5/6/12 7:08 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>>> Am 05/06/2012 06:32 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
>>>>> Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/checksums_new_dl.html
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, this is known as I wrote already that there are no localized
>>>>>>>> Windows builds at all and no Linux x86-64 full install builds
>>>>>> @Andrea:
>>>>>> You have checked the links on the checksums webpage. Can you confirm
>>>>>> that the hash file for these files only are missing? Or have you seen
>>>>>> other files?
>>>>>
>>>>> I noticed the same pattern as you, i.e., Windows and Linux x86-64
>>>>> missing, but there are minor deviations. If this can help, the list of
>>>>> broken links to sha512 hashes follows (and, as far as I've seen, it
>>>>> seems to match the list of missing files):
>>>>>
>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~pescetti/tmp/missing-checksums.txt
>>>>
>>>> Thanks a lot for the list. :-)
>>>>
>>>> I can see that for localized builds the files are missing consistently
>>>> (the already stated Windows full install and Linux x86-64 full install
>>>> combination), except for en-GB, here all Linux and Linux x86-64 builds
>>>> are missing.
>>>
>>> yes I have noticed as well, en-GB is completely missing. Either we drop
>>> en-GB completely or we drop it for Linux.
>>>
>>> That was probably a communication error but I don't see it as critical.
>>
>> I think when en-GB gets diabled in "languages.js", then the green box
>> can point to the "other.html" webpage. And on that webpage we can leave
>> Mac OS and Windows as available. Or we drop it completely.
>
> en-GB is removed from dist after I have talked with infra people in IRC
>
> It is cleaner and better to have it removed completely.
>
> So please remove en-GB from the supported language list for 3.4. It will
> be part of the net micro update 3.4.1 with the updated localization

OK, committed. The testing webpages should be up-to-date.

Marcus

>>>> Furthermore, all SDK builds are named wrong. They have "3.4" as version
>>>> string. But it has to be "3.4.0".
>>>
>>> that can't be changed and we have to live with 3.4
>>
>> OK, I'll adapt it on the download webpage.
>>
>> Marcus
>>
>>>> The links for following links are working nevertheless from your list
>>>> and from the checksums webpage:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/en-GB/3.4.0/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_install_en-GB.exe.sha512
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/en-GB/3.4.0/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_langpack_en-GB.exe.sha512
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Marcus

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@googlemail.com>.
On 5/6/12 7:28 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
> Am 05/06/2012 07:14 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:
>> On 5/6/12 7:08 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>> Am 05/06/2012 06:32 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
>>>> Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>>>>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/checksums_new_dl.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yes, this is known as I wrote already that there are no localized
>>>>>>> Windows builds at all and no Linux x86-64 full install builds
>>>>> @Andrea:
>>>>> You have checked the links on the checksums webpage. Can you confirm
>>>>> that the hash file for these files only are missing? Or have you seen
>>>>> other files?
>>>>
>>>> I noticed the same pattern as you, i.e., Windows and Linux x86-64
>>>> missing, but there are minor deviations. If this can help, the list of
>>>> broken links to sha512 hashes follows (and, as far as I've seen, it
>>>> seems to match the list of missing files):
>>>>
>>>> http://people.apache.org/~pescetti/tmp/missing-checksums.txt
>>>
>>> Thanks a lot for the list. :-)
>>>
>>> I can see that for localized builds the files are missing consistently
>>> (the already stated Windows full install and Linux x86-64 full install
>>> combination), except for en-GB, here all Linux and Linux x86-64 builds
>>> are missing.
>>
>> yes I have noticed as well, en-GB is completely missing. Either we drop
>> en-GB completely or we drop it for Linux.
>>
>> That was probably a communication error but I don't see it as critical.
>
> I think when en-GB gets diabled in "languages.js", then the green box
> can point to the "other.html" webpage. And on that webpage we can leave
> Mac OS and Windows as available. Or we drop it completely.

en-GB is removed from dist after I have talked with infra people in IRC

It is cleaner and better to have it removed completely.

So please remove en-GB from the supported language list for 3.4. It will 
be part of the net micro update 3.4.1 with the updated localization

Juergen

>
>>> Furthermore, all SDK builds are named wrong. They have "3.4" as version
>>> string. But it has to be "3.4.0".
>>
>> that can't be changed and we have to live with 3.4
>
> OK, I'll adapt it on the download webpage.
>
> Marcus
>
>>> The links for following links are working nevertheless from your list
>>> and from the checksums webpage:
>>>
>>> http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/en-GB/3.4.0/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_install_en-GB.exe.sha512
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/en-GB/3.4.0/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_langpack_en-GB.exe.sha512
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Marcus


Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 05/06/2012 07:14 PM, schrieb Jürgen Schmidt:
> On 5/6/12 7:08 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>> Am 05/06/2012 06:32 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
>>> Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>>>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/checksums_new_dl.html
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, this is known as I wrote already that there are no localized
>>>>>> Windows builds at all and no Linux x86-64 full install builds
>>>> @Andrea:
>>>> You have checked the links on the checksums webpage. Can you confirm
>>>> that the hash file for these files only are missing? Or have you seen
>>>> other files?
>>>
>>> I noticed the same pattern as you, i.e., Windows and Linux x86-64
>>> missing, but there are minor deviations. If this can help, the list of
>>> broken links to sha512 hashes follows (and, as far as I've seen, it
>>> seems to match the list of missing files):
>>>
>>> http://people.apache.org/~pescetti/tmp/missing-checksums.txt
>>
>> Thanks a lot for the list. :-)
>>
>> I can see that for localized builds the files are missing consistently
>> (the already stated Windows full install and Linux x86-64 full install
>> combination), except for en-GB, here all Linux and Linux x86-64 builds
>> are missing.
>
> yes I have noticed as well, en-GB is completely missing. Either we drop
> en-GB completely or we drop it for Linux.
>
> That was probably a communication error but I don't see it as critical.

I think when en-GB gets diabled in "languages.js", then the green box 
can point to the "other.html" webpage. And on that webpage we can leave 
Mac OS and Windows as available. Or we drop it completely.

>> Furthermore, all SDK builds are named wrong. They have "3.4" as version
>> string. But it has to be "3.4.0".
>
> that can't be changed and we have to live with 3.4

OK, I'll adapt it on the download webpage.

Marcus

>> The links for following links are working nevertheless from your list
>> and from the checksums webpage:
>>
>> http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/en-GB/3.4.0/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_install_en-GB.exe.sha512
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/en-GB/3.4.0/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_langpack_en-GB.exe.sha512
>>
>>
>>
>> Marcus

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@googlemail.com>.
On 5/6/12 7:08 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
> Am 05/06/2012 06:32 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
>> Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/checksums_new_dl.html
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>> Yes, this is known as I wrote already that there are no localized
>>>>> Windows builds at all and no Linux x86-64 full install builds
>>> @Andrea:
>>> You have checked the links on the checksums webpage. Can you confirm
>>> that the hash file for these files only are missing? Or have you seen
>>> other files?
>>
>> I noticed the same pattern as you, i.e., Windows and Linux x86-64
>> missing, but there are minor deviations. If this can help, the list of
>> broken links to sha512 hashes follows (and, as far as I've seen, it
>> seems to match the list of missing files):
>>
>> http://people.apache.org/~pescetti/tmp/missing-checksums.txt
>
> Thanks a lot for the list. :-)
>
> I can see that for localized builds the files are missing consistently
> (the already stated Windows full install and Linux x86-64 full install
> combination), except for en-GB, here all Linux and Linux x86-64 builds
> are missing.

yes I have noticed as well, en-GB is completely missing. Either we drop 
en-GB completely or we drop it for Linux.

That was probably a communication error but I don't see it as critical.

>
> Furthermore, all SDK builds are named wrong. They have "3.4" as version
> string. But it has to be "3.4.0".

that can't be changed and we have to live with 3.4

Juergen

>
> The links for following links are working nevertheless from your list
> and from the checksums webpage:
>
> http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/en-GB/3.4.0/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_install_en-GB.exe.sha512
>
>
> http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/en-GB/3.4.0/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_langpack_en-GB.exe.sha512
>
>
> Marcus


Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 05/06/2012 06:32 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
> Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/checksums_new_dl.html
>>>>>>
>>>> Yes, this is known as I wrote already that there are no localized
>>>> Windows builds at all and no Linux x86-64 full install builds
>> @Andrea:
>> You have checked the links on the checksums webpage. Can you confirm
>> that the hash file for these files only are missing? Or have you seen
>> other files?
>
> I noticed the same pattern as you, i.e., Windows and Linux x86-64
> missing, but there are minor deviations. If this can help, the list of
> broken links to sha512 hashes follows (and, as far as I've seen, it
> seems to match the list of missing files):
>
> http://people.apache.org/~pescetti/tmp/missing-checksums.txt

Thanks a lot for the list. :-)

I can see that for localized builds the files are missing consistently 
(the already stated Windows full install and Linux x86-64 full install 
combination), except for en-GB, here all Linux and Linux x86-64 builds 
are missing.

Furthermore, all SDK builds are named wrong. They have "3.4" as version 
string. But it has to  be "3.4.0".

The links for following links are working nevertheless from your list 
and from the checksums webpage:

http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/en-GB/3.4.0/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_install_en-GB.exe.sha512

http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/en-GB/3.4.0/Apache_OpenOffice_incubating_3.4.0_Win_x86_langpack_en-GB.exe.sha512 


Marcus

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/checksums_new_dl.html
>>> Yes, this is known as I wrote already that there are no localized
>>> Windows builds at all and no Linux x86-64 full install builds
> @Andrea:
> You have checked the links on the checksums webpage. Can you confirm
> that the hash file for these files only are missing? Or have you seen
> other files?

I noticed the same pattern as you, i.e., Windows and Linux x86-64 
missing, but there are minor deviations. If this can help, the list of 
broken links to sha512 hashes follows (and, as far as I've seen, it 
seems to match the list of missing files):

http://people.apache.org/~pescetti/tmp/missing-checksums.txt

Regards,
   Andrea.

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 05/06/2012 05:24 PM, schrieb Juergen Schmidt:
> On Sunday, 6. May 2012 at 14:19, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>> Am 05/06/2012 01:02 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
>>> On 05/05/2012 Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>>> The checksums file is ready:
>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/checksums_new_dl.html
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> It's nice, even though a bit scary (four different verification
>>> mechanisms are probably overkill); but this will satisfy everybody, so OK.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, sometimes you will see how it looks not before it's finished. IMHO
>> for the AOO 3.4.0 release and a bit later this will be the location for
>> hashes.
>>
>> Juergen mentioned to put the links into the green download box. I think
>> this is a good idea and will be implemented after the release. So, we
>> will have then the "checksums.html" as fallback.
>>
>>> I see that many links in that page are broken (e.g., links to Windows
>>> builds, to 64-bit DEBs and so on); I tend to believe this is known
>>> and/or wanted for the time being, but, if it isn't, just click around on
>>> that page and you will see plenty of broken links.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, this is known as I wrote already that there are no localized
>> Windows builds at all and no Linux x86-64 full install builds, the same
>> for the hash files, as you can see here:
>>
>> http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/it/3.4.0/
> I will check it asap later when I am back home. It must be an error.

Great. Hopefully enough time to upload them, too.

> Do you know of more missing files?

No.

@Andrea:
You have checked the links on the checksums webpage. Can you confirm 
that the hash file for these files only are missing? Or have you seen 
other files?

Thanks

Marcus



>> I think from here the builds will be distributed to the ASF and SF
>> mirrors, right? Hopefully someone is working on this issue. *wink*
>>
>> Thanks for your feedback.
>>
>> Marcus

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by Juergen Schmidt <jo...@googlemail.com>.
On Sunday, 6. May 2012 at 14:19, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
> Am 05/06/2012 01:02 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
> > On 05/05/2012 Marcus (OOo) wrote:
> > > The checksums file is ready:
> > > http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/checksums_new_dl.html
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > It's nice, even though a bit scary (four different verification
> > mechanisms are probably overkill); but this will satisfy everybody, so OK.
> > 
> 
> 
> Yes, sometimes you will see how it looks not before it's finished. IMHO 
> for the AOO 3.4.0 release and a bit later this will be the location for 
> hashes.
> 
> Juergen mentioned to put the links into the green download box. I think 
> this is a good idea and will be implemented after the release. So, we 
> will have then the "checksums.html" as fallback.
> 
> > I see that many links in that page are broken (e.g., links to Windows
> > builds, to 64-bit DEBs and so on); I tend to believe this is known
> > and/or wanted for the time being, but, if it isn't, just click around on
> > that page and you will see plenty of broken links.
> > 
> 
> 
> Yes, this is known as I wrote already that there are no localized 
> Windows builds at all and no Linux x86-64 full install builds, the same 
> for the hash files, as you can see here:
> 
> http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/it/3.4.0/
I will check it asap later when I am back home. It must be an error.

Do you know of more missing files? 

Juergen 
> 
> I think from here the builds will be distributed to the ASF and SF 
> mirrors, right? Hopefully someone is working on this issue. *wink*
> 
> Thanks for your feedback.
> 
> Marcus 


Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 05/06/2012 01:02 PM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
> On 05/05/2012 Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>> The checksums file is ready:
>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/checksums_new_dl.html
>
> It's nice, even though a bit scary (four different verification
> mechanisms are probably overkill); but this will satisfy everybody, so OK.

Yes, sometimes you will see how it looks not before it's finished. IMHO 
for the AOO 3.4.0 release and a bit later this will be the location for 
hashes.

Juergen mentioned to put the links into the green download box. I think 
this is a good idea and will be implemented after the release. So, we 
will have then the "checksums.html" as fallback.

> I see that many links in that page are broken (e.g., links to Windows
> builds, to 64-bit DEBs and so on); I tend to believe this is known
> and/or wanted for the time being, but, if it isn't, just click around on
> that page and you will see plenty of broken links.

Yes, this is known as I wrote already that there are no localized 
Windows builds at all and no Linux x86-64 full install builds, the same 
for the hash files, as you can see here:

http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/it/3.4.0/

I think from here the builds will be distributed to the ASF and SF 
mirrors, right? Hopefully someone is working on this issue. *wink*

Thanks for your feedback.

Marcus


Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
On 05/05/2012 Marcus (OOo) wrote:
> The checksums file is ready:
> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/checksums_new_dl.html

It's nice, even though a bit scary (four different verification 
mechanisms are probably overkill); but this will satisfy everybody, so OK.

I see that many links in that page are broken (e.g., links to Windows 
builds, to 64-bit DEBs and so on); I tend to believe this is known 
and/or wanted for the time being, but, if it isn't, just click around on 
that page and you will see plenty of broken links.

Regards,
   Andrea.

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 05/05/2012 12:08 AM, schrieb Dave Fisher:
>
> On May 4, 2012, at 1:22 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>
>> Am 05/04/2012 06:27 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
>>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 12:50 AM, Jürgen Schmidt
>>> <jo...@googlemail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> I have tested http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**
>>>> index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>on MacOS 10.7.3 with Firefox 12.0 and Safari 5.1.5
>>>>
>>>> In both cases the click on the download butotn give me the correct
>>>> download, perfect ;-)
>>>>
>>>
>>> YAY!
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Some questions as release manager:
>>>>
>>>> - the link "Searching for another version? Get all platforms, languages,
>>>> language packs" guide me on an old page. Do we have the new page with the
>>>> reduced number of released languages already in place?
>>>>
>>>
>>> yes, we do...it is not linked in and will need to retaing its current name
>>> but you can see the new version at:
>>>
>>>   http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/other_new_dl.html
>>
>> I've created yesterday evening a first draft. So, please don't see it as written in stone. And some links are not yet working.
>
>>
>>>> Does "source archives" on this page provide links to our source release?
>>>>
>>>
>>> see above page...
>>
>> Yes, there is a little section to provide links to the source files (should be from Apache only).
>
> This is what should be from the Apache Mirrors and not /dist/. You can use the cgi url that Joe has provided.
>
> (This is item no 10.)
>
> Let me know if you would like me to do these changes on the new other page.

I've tried to use the aoo-closer.cgi script in the URL. But it doesn't 
work yet. Do you see anything incorrect in the URL?

>>>> - the link "Release Notes"
>>>> Do we have it in place as html file that fits in here? I know we have it
>>>> in the wiki and there as html as well. But is the plan here?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I just sent out a note about this. We have one in development but it's not
>>> where it should be.
>>>
>>>
>>>> - the "MD5 checksums"
>>>> I have read that we will probably change it to "Signatures and Hashes". Do
>>>> we have the page/script behind it?
>>>>
>>>> Or should we simply provide 4 links ASC, MD5, SHA1, SHA512 with a simple
>>>> script appending the correct extension. Everything else should be in place
>>>> already.
>>>>
>>>
>>> This is a BIG unanswered question at the moment-- please see the
>>>
>>> "Distributing AOO 3.4: The 22 things we need to do before we announce"
>>>
>>> thread...Rob's last comments...
>>
>> I can create also a webpage with links to all checksums. Shouldn't be a problem.
>
> Link to the signatures on /dist/. These are the trusted source. The page should explain how to verify the sigs. There are many examples.

The checksums file is ready:

http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/checksums_new_dl.html

Just the part "How to use checksums?" needs to be filled with text. I'll 
do this tomorrow.

>>>> Sorry if my questions are already answered somewhere, it's easy to miss
>>>> some mails at the moment.
>>>>
>>>
>>> No problem...there's a LOT going on...
>>
>> To be honest, I think I've lost a litle bit the plot. I don't know exactly which webpages we want, which links on them, to which mirrors. And what are the exceptions. ;-(
>
> Sorry.
>
>>
>> So, I've updated our Wikipage (see the bottom) to get the overview back. Even if this is not relevant for a longer time, it should be helpful for the next weeks:
>>
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks
>>
>> To the best of my knowledge, so please make changes if something is wrong.
>
> I changed the source over to the Apache Mirrors.

OK

> I think that the SDKs should be on the Apache mirrors, but then I can also see good reasons to leave it alone.

I have it now for the SF mirrors. However, no problem to change the URLs 
to ASF mirrors.

Marcus



> I want to mark item 10 done when ROb is done editing.
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
>
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Marcus
>>
>>
>>
>>>> On 5/1/12 6:22 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 3:46 AM, Regina Henschel<rb...@t-online.de>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>   Hi Kay,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kay Schenk schrieb:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Regina--
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for all this work. Please see comments inline below...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Regina Henschel<rb.henschel@t-online.*
>>>>>>> ***
>>>>>>> de<rb...@t-online.de>>**wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> my test results are below, all on German WinXP Home, SP3.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   [..]
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   With Opera 11.62
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> =============================
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Calling http://ooo-site.staging.****apac**he.org/download/test/**<**
>>>>>>>> http://apache.org/download/**test/**<http://apache.org/download/test/**>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-****site.staging.apache.org/**
>>>>>>>> download/test/index_new_dl.****html<http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>>>> apache.org/download/test/**index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The green download box is missing totally.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Calling http://www.openoffice.org/******download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/****download/test/analyze.html>
>>>>>>>> <htt**p://www.openoffice.org/****download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze.html>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> <htt**p://www.openoffice.org/****download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze.html>
>>>>>>>> <ht**tp://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> results in
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> navigator.platform: Win32
>>>>>>>> navigator.UserAgent: Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 5.1; U; de) Presto/2.10.229
>>>>>>>> Version/11.62
>>>>>>>> navigator.UserAgent lower case: opera/9.80 (windows nt 5.1; u; de)
>>>>>>>> presto/2.10.229 version/11.62
>>>>>>>> navigator.UserAgent lower case: -1
>>>>>>>> getLink(): undefined
>>>>>>>> getPlatform(): Windows
>>>>>>>> getLanguage(): German
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> window.location.href    http://www.openoffice.org/**
>>>>>>>> download/test/analyze.html<**htt**p://www.openoffice.org/**
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> download/test/analyze.html<htt**p://www.openoffice.org/**
>>>>>>>> download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>   navigator.platform      Win32
>>>>>>>> navigator.platform.******toLowerCase()        win32
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> navigator.userAgent     Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 5.1; U; de)
>>>>>>>> Presto/2.10.229
>>>>>>>> Version/11.62
>>>>>>>> navigator.userAgent.******toLowerCase()       opera/9.80 (windows nt
>>>>>>>> 5.1;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> u;
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> de) presto/2.10.229 version/11.62
>>>>>>>> navigator.language      de
>>>>>>>> navigator.userLanguage  de
>>>>>>>> navigator.systemLanguage        undefined
>>>>>>>> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>   OK -- well this is NOT good, but what kind of results do you get with
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Opera
>>>>>>> for:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   http://www.openoffice.org/****download/legacy/<http://www.openoffice.org/**download/legacy/>
>>>>>>> <http://www.**openoffice.org/download/**legacy/<http://www.openoffice.org/download/legacy/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> same thing or ????
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes, same error. The green box is missing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> OK -- well I feel a little better at least. I don't know what it is about
>>>>> JS and Opera but I know when Marcus and I were working on something a few
>>>>> years ago, we had a LOT of problems with Opera.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   Despite the fact that Opera is supposed to be the most W3 compliant
>>>>>>> browser, I know folks have had issues with it...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   [..]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I see JavaScript errors in the 'Fehlerkonsole', besides some messages
>>>>>> about CSS, copy&paste below.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> yeah-- nothing fatal... OK
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>> Regina
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [01.05.2012 12:44:46] CSS - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>> apache.org/css/ooo.css<http://**ooo-site.staging.apache.org/**
>>>>>> css/ooo.css<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/css/ooo.css>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Linked-in stylesheet
>>>>>> -moz-border-radius is an unknown property
>>>>>> Line 276:
>>>>>>     -moz-border-radius: 0 0 10px 0;
>>>>>>   ---------------------^
>>>>>> [01.05.2012 12:44:46] CSS - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>> apache.org/css/ooo.css<http://**ooo-site.staging.apache.org/**
>>>>>> css/ooo.css<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/css/ooo.css>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Linked-in stylesheet
>>>>>> -moz-border-radius is an unknown property
>>>>>> Line 328:
>>>>>>     -moz-border-radius: 0 10px 10px 0;
>>>>>>   ---------------------^
>>>>>> [01.05.2012 12:44:46] CSS - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>> apache.org/css/ooo.css<http://**ooo-site.staging.apache.org/**
>>>>>> css/ooo.css<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/css/ooo.css>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Linked-in stylesheet
>>>>>> Selector syntax error
>>>>>> Line 470:
>>>>>>   img { border: 0px; }
>>>>>>   -----^
>>>>>> [25.01.1970 07:34:22] JavaScript - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>> apache.org/download/test/****download_new_dl.js<http://apache.org/download/test/**download_new_dl.js>
>>>>>> <http://ooo-**site.staging.apache.org/**download/test/download_new_dl.**
>>>>>> js<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/download_new_dl.js>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Linked script compilation
>>>>>> Syntax error at line 883 while loading: expected ';', got '304'
>>>>>> HTTP/1.1 304 Not Modified
>>>>>> ---------^
>>>>>> [25.03.1970 11:30:57] JavaScript - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>> apache.org/download/test/****languages_new_dl.js<http://apache.org/download/test/**languages_new_dl.js>
>>>>>> <http://**ooo-site.staging.apache.org/**download/test/languages_new_**
>>>>>> dl.js<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/languages_new_dl.js>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Linked script compilation
>>>>>> Syntax error at line 104 while loading: expected ';', got '200'
>>>>>> HTTP/1.1 200 OK
>>>>>> ---------^
>>>>>> [25.03.1970 11:30:57] JavaScript - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>> apache.org/download/test/****download_new_mirrorbrain.js<http://apache.org/download/test/**download_new_mirrorbrain.js>
>>>>>> <ht**tp://ooo-site.staging.apache.**org/download/test/download_**
>>>>>> new_mirrorbrain.js<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/download_new_mirrorbrain.js>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Linked script compilation
>>>>>> Syntax error at line 595 while loading: expected ';', got '304'
>>>>>> HTTP/1.1 304 Not Modified
>>>>>> ---------^
>>>>>> [01.05.2012 12:44:47] JavaScript - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>> apache.org/download/scripts/****entourage.js<http://apache.org/download/scripts/**entourage.js>
>>>>>> <http://ooo-site.**staging.apache.org/download/**scripts/entourage.js<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/scripts/entourage.js>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Das verlinkte Skript wurde nicht geladen.
>>>>>> [01.05.2012 12:44:47] CSS - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>> apache.org/download/test/****index_new_dl.html<http://apache.org/download/test/**index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>> <http://ooo-**site.staging.apache.org/**download/test/index_new_dl.**
>>>>>> html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HTML style attribute
>>>>>> relative is an unknown property
>>>>>> Line 1:
>>>>>>   relative; margin: 14px 0 0 0; height: 24px;
>>>>>>   ---------^
>>>>>> [01.05.2012 12:44:47] CSS - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>> apache.org/download/test/****index_new_dl.html<http://apache.org/download/test/**index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>> <http://ooo-**site.staging.apache.org/**download/test/index_new_dl.**
>>>>>> html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> HTML style attribute
>>>>>> Declaration syntax error
>>>>>> Line 1:
>>>>>>   relative; margin: 14px 0 0 0; height: 24px;
>>>>>>   ---------^
>>>>>> [18.03.1970 15:40:44] JavaScript - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>> apache.org/download/test/****index_new_dl.html<http://apache.org/download/test/**index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>> <http://ooo-**site.staging.apache.org/**download/test/index_new_dl.**
>>>>>> html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Inline script thread
>>>>>> Uncaught exception: ReferenceError: Undefined variable: getLink
>>>>>> Error thrown at line 3, column 2 in http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>> apache.org/download/test/****index_new_dl.html<http://apache.org/download/test/**index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>> <http://ooo-**site.staging.apache.org/**download/test/index_new_dl.**
>>>>>> html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> :
>>>>>>     LINK = getLink( VERSION, MIRROR, SCHEMA );
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks again for you help...moving on to other things now...still much to
>>>>> do

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
On May 4, 2012, at 1:22 PM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:

> Am 05/04/2012 06:27 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
>> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 12:50 AM, Jürgen Schmidt
>> <jo...@googlemail.com>wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I have tested http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**
>>> index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>on MacOS 10.7.3 with Firefox 12.0 and Safari 5.1.5
>>> 
>>> In both cases the click on the download butotn give me the correct
>>> download, perfect ;-)
>>> 
>> 
>> YAY!
>> 
>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Some questions as release manager:
>>> 
>>> - the link "Searching for another version? Get all platforms, languages,
>>> language packs" guide me on an old page. Do we have the new page with the
>>> reduced number of released languages already in place?
>>> 
>> 
>> yes, we do...it is not linked in and will need to retaing its current name
>> but you can see the new version at:
>> 
>>  http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/other_new_dl.html
> 
> I've created yesterday evening a first draft. So, please don't see it as written in stone. And some links are not yet working.

> 
>>> Does "source archives" on this page provide links to our source release?
>>> 
>> 
>> see above page...
> 
> Yes, there is a little section to provide links to the source files (should be from Apache only).

This is what should be from the Apache Mirrors and not /dist/. You can use the cgi url that Joe has provided.

(This is item no 10.)

Let me know if you would like me to do these changes on the new other page.

> 
>>> - the link "Release Notes"
>>> Do we have it in place as html file that fits in here? I know we have it
>>> in the wiki and there as html as well. But is the plan here?
>>> 
>> 
>> I just sent out a note about this. We have one in development but it's not
>> where it should be.
>> 
>> 
>>> - the "MD5 checksums"
>>> I have read that we will probably change it to "Signatures and Hashes". Do
>>> we have the page/script behind it?
>>> 
>>> Or should we simply provide 4 links ASC, MD5, SHA1, SHA512 with a simple
>>> script appending the correct extension. Everything else should be in place
>>> already.
>>> 
>> 
>> This is a BIG unanswered question at the moment-- please see the
>> 
>> "Distributing AOO 3.4: The 22 things we need to do before we announce"
>> 
>> thread...Rob's last comments...
> 
> I can create also a webpage with links to all checksums. Shouldn't be a problem.

Link to the signatures on /dist/. These are the trusted source. The page should explain how to verify the sigs. There are many examples.

> 
>>> Sorry if my questions are already answered somewhere, it's easy to miss
>>> some mails at the moment.
>>> 
>> 
>> No problem...there's a LOT going on...
> 
> To be honest, I think I've lost a litle bit the plot. I don't know exactly which webpages we want, which links on them, to which mirrors. And what are the exceptions. ;-(

Sorry.

> 
> So, I've updated our Wikipage (see the bottom) to get the overview back. Even if this is not relevant for a longer time, it should be helpful for the next weeks:
> 
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks
> 
> To the best of my knowledge, so please make changes if something is wrong.

I changed the source over to the Apache Mirrors.

I think that the SDKs should be on the Apache mirrors, but then I can also see good reasons to leave it alone.

I want to mark item 10 done when ROb is done editing.

Regards,
Dave


> 
> Thanks
> 
> Marcus
> 
> 
> 
>>> On 5/1/12 6:22 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 3:46 AM, Regina Henschel<rb...@t-online.de>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>  Hi Kay,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Kay Schenk schrieb:
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Regina--
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks for all this work. Please see comments inline below...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Regina Henschel<rb.henschel@t-online.*
>>>>>> ***
>>>>>> de<rb...@t-online.de>>**wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> my test results are below, all on German WinXP Home, SP3.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  [..]
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>  With Opera 11.62
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> =============================
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Calling http://ooo-site.staging.****apac**he.org/download/test/**<**
>>>>>>> http://apache.org/download/**test/**<http://apache.org/download/test/**>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-****site.staging.apache.org/**
>>>>>>> download/test/index_new_dl.****html<http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>>> apache.org/download/test/**index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The green download box is missing totally.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Calling http://www.openoffice.org/******download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/****download/test/analyze.html>
>>>>>>> <htt**p://www.openoffice.org/****download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze.html>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> <htt**p://www.openoffice.org/****download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze.html>
>>>>>>> <ht**tp://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> results in
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> navigator.platform: Win32
>>>>>>> navigator.UserAgent: Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 5.1; U; de) Presto/2.10.229
>>>>>>> Version/11.62
>>>>>>> navigator.UserAgent lower case: opera/9.80 (windows nt 5.1; u; de)
>>>>>>> presto/2.10.229 version/11.62
>>>>>>> navigator.UserAgent lower case: -1
>>>>>>> getLink(): undefined
>>>>>>> getPlatform(): Windows
>>>>>>> getLanguage(): German
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> window.location.href    http://www.openoffice.org/**
>>>>>>> download/test/analyze.html<**htt**p://www.openoffice.org/**
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> download/test/analyze.html<htt**p://www.openoffice.org/**
>>>>>>> download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>  navigator.platform      Win32
>>>>>>> navigator.platform.******toLowerCase()        win32
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> navigator.userAgent     Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 5.1; U; de)
>>>>>>> Presto/2.10.229
>>>>>>> Version/11.62
>>>>>>> navigator.userAgent.******toLowerCase()       opera/9.80 (windows nt
>>>>>>> 5.1;
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> u;
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> de) presto/2.10.229 version/11.62
>>>>>>> navigator.language      de
>>>>>>> navigator.userLanguage  de
>>>>>>> navigator.systemLanguage        undefined
>>>>>>> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  OK -- well this is NOT good, but what kind of results do you get with
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Opera
>>>>>> for:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  http://www.openoffice.org/****download/legacy/<http://www.openoffice.org/**download/legacy/>
>>>>>> <http://www.**openoffice.org/download/**legacy/<http://www.openoffice.org/download/legacy/>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> same thing or ????
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> Yes, same error. The green box is missing.
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> OK -- well I feel a little better at least. I don't know what it is about
>>>> JS and Opera but I know when Marcus and I were working on something a few
>>>> years ago, we had a LOT of problems with Opera.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>  Despite the fact that Opera is supposed to be the most W3 compliant
>>>>>> browser, I know folks have had issues with it...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>  [..]
>>>>> 
>>>>> I see JavaScript errors in the 'Fehlerkonsole', besides some messages
>>>>> about CSS, copy&paste below.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> yeah-- nothing fatal... OK
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>> Regina
>>>>> 
>>>>> [01.05.2012 12:44:46] CSS - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>> apache.org/css/ooo.css<http://**ooo-site.staging.apache.org/**
>>>>> css/ooo.css<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/css/ooo.css>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Linked-in stylesheet
>>>>> -moz-border-radius is an unknown property
>>>>> Line 276:
>>>>>    -moz-border-radius: 0 0 10px 0;
>>>>>  ---------------------^
>>>>> [01.05.2012 12:44:46] CSS - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>> apache.org/css/ooo.css<http://**ooo-site.staging.apache.org/**
>>>>> css/ooo.css<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/css/ooo.css>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Linked-in stylesheet
>>>>> -moz-border-radius is an unknown property
>>>>> Line 328:
>>>>>    -moz-border-radius: 0 10px 10px 0;
>>>>>  ---------------------^
>>>>> [01.05.2012 12:44:46] CSS - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>> apache.org/css/ooo.css<http://**ooo-site.staging.apache.org/**
>>>>> css/ooo.css<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/css/ooo.css>>
>>>>> 
>>>>> Linked-in stylesheet
>>>>> Selector syntax error
>>>>> Line 470:
>>>>>  img { border: 0px; }
>>>>>  -----^
>>>>> [25.01.1970 07:34:22] JavaScript - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>> apache.org/download/test/****download_new_dl.js<http://apache.org/download/test/**download_new_dl.js>
>>>>> <http://ooo-**site.staging.apache.org/**download/test/download_new_dl.**
>>>>> js<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/download_new_dl.js>
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Linked script compilation
>>>>> Syntax error at line 883 while loading: expected ';', got '304'
>>>>> HTTP/1.1 304 Not Modified
>>>>> ---------^
>>>>> [25.03.1970 11:30:57] JavaScript - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>> apache.org/download/test/****languages_new_dl.js<http://apache.org/download/test/**languages_new_dl.js>
>>>>> <http://**ooo-site.staging.apache.org/**download/test/languages_new_**
>>>>> dl.js<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/languages_new_dl.js>
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Linked script compilation
>>>>> Syntax error at line 104 while loading: expected ';', got '200'
>>>>> HTTP/1.1 200 OK
>>>>> ---------^
>>>>> [25.03.1970 11:30:57] JavaScript - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>> apache.org/download/test/****download_new_mirrorbrain.js<http://apache.org/download/test/**download_new_mirrorbrain.js>
>>>>> <ht**tp://ooo-site.staging.apache.**org/download/test/download_**
>>>>> new_mirrorbrain.js<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/download_new_mirrorbrain.js>
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Linked script compilation
>>>>> Syntax error at line 595 while loading: expected ';', got '304'
>>>>> HTTP/1.1 304 Not Modified
>>>>> ---------^
>>>>> [01.05.2012 12:44:47] JavaScript - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>> apache.org/download/scripts/****entourage.js<http://apache.org/download/scripts/**entourage.js>
>>>>> <http://ooo-site.**staging.apache.org/download/**scripts/entourage.js<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/scripts/entourage.js>
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Das verlinkte Skript wurde nicht geladen.
>>>>> [01.05.2012 12:44:47] CSS - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>> apache.org/download/test/****index_new_dl.html<http://apache.org/download/test/**index_new_dl.html>
>>>>> <http://ooo-**site.staging.apache.org/**download/test/index_new_dl.**
>>>>> html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> HTML style attribute
>>>>> relative is an unknown property
>>>>> Line 1:
>>>>>  relative; margin: 14px 0 0 0; height: 24px;
>>>>>  ---------^
>>>>> [01.05.2012 12:44:47] CSS - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>> apache.org/download/test/****index_new_dl.html<http://apache.org/download/test/**index_new_dl.html>
>>>>> <http://ooo-**site.staging.apache.org/**download/test/index_new_dl.**
>>>>> html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> HTML style attribute
>>>>> Declaration syntax error
>>>>> Line 1:
>>>>>  relative; margin: 14px 0 0 0; height: 24px;
>>>>>  ---------^
>>>>> [18.03.1970 15:40:44] JavaScript - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>> apache.org/download/test/****index_new_dl.html<http://apache.org/download/test/**index_new_dl.html>
>>>>> <http://ooo-**site.staging.apache.org/**download/test/index_new_dl.**
>>>>> html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Inline script thread
>>>>> Uncaught exception: ReferenceError: Undefined variable: getLink
>>>>> Error thrown at line 3, column 2 in http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>> apache.org/download/test/****index_new_dl.html<http://apache.org/download/test/**index_new_dl.html>
>>>>> <http://ooo-**site.staging.apache.org/**download/test/index_new_dl.**
>>>>> html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> :
>>>>>    LINK = getLink( VERSION, MIRROR, SCHEMA );
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks again for you help...moving on to other things now...still much to
>>>> do


Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by "Marcus (OOo)" <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 05/04/2012 06:27 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 12:50 AM, Jürgen Schmidt
> <jo...@googlemail.com>wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have tested http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**
>> index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>on MacOS 10.7.3 with Firefox 12.0 and Safari 5.1.5
>>
>> In both cases the click on the download butotn give me the correct
>> download, perfect ;-)
>>
>
> YAY!
>
>
>>
>>
>> Some questions as release manager:
>>
>> - the link "Searching for another version? Get all platforms, languages,
>> language packs" guide me on an old page. Do we have the new page with the
>> reduced number of released languages already in place?
>>
>
> yes, we do...it is not linked in and will need to retaing its current name
> but you can see the new version at:
>
>   http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/other_new_dl.html

I've created yesterday evening a first draft. So, please don't see it as 
written in stone. And some links are not yet working.

>> Does "source archives" on this page provide links to our source release?
>>
>
> see above page...

Yes, there is a little section to provide links to the source files 
(should be from Apache only).

>> - the link "Release Notes"
>> Do we have it in place as html file that fits in here? I know we have it
>> in the wiki and there as html as well. But is the plan here?
>>
>
> I just sent out a note about this. We have one in development but it's not
> where it should be.
>
>
>> - the "MD5 checksums"
>> I have read that we will probably change it to "Signatures and Hashes". Do
>> we have the page/script behind it?
>>
>> Or should we simply provide 4 links ASC, MD5, SHA1, SHA512 with a simple
>> script appending the correct extension. Everything else should be in place
>> already.
>>
>
> This is a BIG unanswered question at the moment-- please see the
>
> "Distributing AOO 3.4: The 22 things we need to do before we announce"
>
> thread...Rob's last comments...

I can create also a webpage with links to all checksums. Shouldn't be a 
problem.

>> Sorry if my questions are already answered somewhere, it's easy to miss
>> some mails at the moment.
>>
>
> No problem...there's a LOT going on...

To be honest, I think I've lost a litle bit the plot. I don't know 
exactly which webpages we want, which links on them, to which mirrors. 
And what are the exceptions. ;-(

So, I've updated our Wikipage (see the bottom) to get the overview back. 
Even if this is not relevant for a longer time, it should be helpful for 
the next weeks:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+3.4+Distribution+Tasks

To the best of my knowledge, so please make changes if something is wrong.

Thanks

Marcus



>> On 5/1/12 6:22 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
>>
>>> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 3:46 AM, Regina Henschel<rb...@t-online.de>
>>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>   Hi Kay,
>>>>
>>>> Kay Schenk schrieb:
>>>>
>>>>   Regina--
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for all this work. Please see comments inline below...
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Regina Henschel<rb.henschel@t-online.*
>>>>> ***
>>>>> de<rb...@t-online.de>>**wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> my test results are below, all on German WinXP Home, SP3.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   [..]
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>   With Opera 11.62
>>>>>
>>>>>> =============================
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Calling http://ooo-site.staging.****apac**he.org/download/test/**<**
>>>>>> http://apache.org/download/**test/**<http://apache.org/download/test/**>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-****site.staging.apache.org/**
>>>>>> download/test/index_new_dl.****html<http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>>> apache.org/download/test/**index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The green download box is missing totally.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Calling http://www.openoffice.org/******download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/****download/test/analyze.html>
>>>>>> <htt**p://www.openoffice.org/****download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze.html>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> <htt**p://www.openoffice.org/****download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze.html>
>>>>>> <ht**tp://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> results in
>>>>>>
>>>>>> navigator.platform: Win32
>>>>>> navigator.UserAgent: Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 5.1; U; de) Presto/2.10.229
>>>>>> Version/11.62
>>>>>> navigator.UserAgent lower case: opera/9.80 (windows nt 5.1; u; de)
>>>>>> presto/2.10.229 version/11.62
>>>>>> navigator.UserAgent lower case: -1
>>>>>> getLink(): undefined
>>>>>> getPlatform(): Windows
>>>>>> getLanguage(): German
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> window.location.href    http://www.openoffice.org/**
>>>>>> download/test/analyze.html<**htt**p://www.openoffice.org/**
>>>>>>
>>>>>> download/test/analyze.html<htt**p://www.openoffice.org/**
>>>>>> download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>   navigator.platform      Win32
>>>>>> navigator.platform.******toLowerCase()        win32
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> navigator.userAgent     Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 5.1; U; de)
>>>>>> Presto/2.10.229
>>>>>> Version/11.62
>>>>>> navigator.userAgent.******toLowerCase()       opera/9.80 (windows nt
>>>>>> 5.1;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> u;
>>>>>>
>>>>>> de) presto/2.10.229 version/11.62
>>>>>> navigator.language      de
>>>>>> navigator.userLanguage  de
>>>>>> navigator.systemLanguage        undefined
>>>>>> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   OK -- well this is NOT good, but what kind of results do you get with
>>>>>>
>>>>> Opera
>>>>> for:
>>>>>
>>>>>   http://www.openoffice.org/****download/legacy/<http://www.openoffice.org/**download/legacy/>
>>>>> <http://www.**openoffice.org/download/**legacy/<http://www.openoffice.org/download/legacy/>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> same thing or ????
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> Yes, same error. The green box is missing.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> OK -- well I feel a little better at least. I don't know what it is about
>>> JS and Opera but I know when Marcus and I were working on something a few
>>> years ago, we had a LOT of problems with Opera.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   Despite the fact that Opera is supposed to be the most W3 compliant
>>>>> browser, I know folks have had issues with it...
>>>>>
>>>>>   [..]
>>>>
>>>> I see JavaScript errors in the 'Fehlerkonsole', besides some messages
>>>> about CSS, copy&paste below.
>>>>
>>>>
>>> yeah-- nothing fatal... OK
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Kind regards
>>>> Regina
>>>>
>>>> [01.05.2012 12:44:46] CSS - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>> apache.org/css/ooo.css<http://**ooo-site.staging.apache.org/**
>>>> css/ooo.css<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/css/ooo.css>>
>>>>
>>>> Linked-in stylesheet
>>>> -moz-border-radius is an unknown property
>>>> Line 276:
>>>>     -moz-border-radius: 0 0 10px 0;
>>>>   ---------------------^
>>>> [01.05.2012 12:44:46] CSS - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>> apache.org/css/ooo.css<http://**ooo-site.staging.apache.org/**
>>>> css/ooo.css<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/css/ooo.css>>
>>>>
>>>> Linked-in stylesheet
>>>> -moz-border-radius is an unknown property
>>>> Line 328:
>>>>     -moz-border-radius: 0 10px 10px 0;
>>>>   ---------------------^
>>>> [01.05.2012 12:44:46] CSS - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>> apache.org/css/ooo.css<http://**ooo-site.staging.apache.org/**
>>>> css/ooo.css<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/css/ooo.css>>
>>>>
>>>> Linked-in stylesheet
>>>> Selector syntax error
>>>> Line 470:
>>>>   img { border: 0px; }
>>>>   -----^
>>>> [25.01.1970 07:34:22] JavaScript - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>> apache.org/download/test/****download_new_dl.js<http://apache.org/download/test/**download_new_dl.js>
>>>> <http://ooo-**site.staging.apache.org/**download/test/download_new_dl.**
>>>> js<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/download_new_dl.js>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Linked script compilation
>>>> Syntax error at line 883 while loading: expected ';', got '304'
>>>> HTTP/1.1 304 Not Modified
>>>> ---------^
>>>> [25.03.1970 11:30:57] JavaScript - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>> apache.org/download/test/****languages_new_dl.js<http://apache.org/download/test/**languages_new_dl.js>
>>>> <http://**ooo-site.staging.apache.org/**download/test/languages_new_**
>>>> dl.js<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/languages_new_dl.js>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Linked script compilation
>>>> Syntax error at line 104 while loading: expected ';', got '200'
>>>> HTTP/1.1 200 OK
>>>> ---------^
>>>> [25.03.1970 11:30:57] JavaScript - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>> apache.org/download/test/****download_new_mirrorbrain.js<http://apache.org/download/test/**download_new_mirrorbrain.js>
>>>> <ht**tp://ooo-site.staging.apache.**org/download/test/download_**
>>>> new_mirrorbrain.js<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/download_new_mirrorbrain.js>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Linked script compilation
>>>> Syntax error at line 595 while loading: expected ';', got '304'
>>>> HTTP/1.1 304 Not Modified
>>>> ---------^
>>>> [01.05.2012 12:44:47] JavaScript - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>> apache.org/download/scripts/****entourage.js<http://apache.org/download/scripts/**entourage.js>
>>>> <http://ooo-site.**staging.apache.org/download/**scripts/entourage.js<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/scripts/entourage.js>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Das verlinkte Skript wurde nicht geladen.
>>>> [01.05.2012 12:44:47] CSS - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>> apache.org/download/test/****index_new_dl.html<http://apache.org/download/test/**index_new_dl.html>
>>>> <http://ooo-**site.staging.apache.org/**download/test/index_new_dl.**
>>>> html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> HTML style attribute
>>>> relative is an unknown property
>>>> Line 1:
>>>>   relative; margin: 14px 0 0 0; height: 24px;
>>>>   ---------^
>>>> [01.05.2012 12:44:47] CSS - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>> apache.org/download/test/****index_new_dl.html<http://apache.org/download/test/**index_new_dl.html>
>>>> <http://ooo-**site.staging.apache.org/**download/test/index_new_dl.**
>>>> html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> HTML style attribute
>>>> Declaration syntax error
>>>> Line 1:
>>>>   relative; margin: 14px 0 0 0; height: 24px;
>>>>   ---------^
>>>> [18.03.1970 15:40:44] JavaScript - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>> apache.org/download/test/****index_new_dl.html<http://apache.org/download/test/**index_new_dl.html>
>>>> <http://ooo-**site.staging.apache.org/**download/test/index_new_dl.**
>>>> html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Inline script thread
>>>> Uncaught exception: ReferenceError: Undefined variable: getLink
>>>> Error thrown at line 3, column 2 in http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>> apache.org/download/test/****index_new_dl.html<http://apache.org/download/test/**index_new_dl.html>
>>>> <http://ooo-**site.staging.apache.org/**download/test/index_new_dl.**
>>>> html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> :
>>>>     LINK = getLink( VERSION, MIRROR, SCHEMA );
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks again for you help...moving on to other things now...still much to
>>> do

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 12:50 AM, Jürgen Schmidt
<jo...@googlemail.com>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I have tested http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**
> index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>on MacOS 10.7.3 with Firefox 12.0 and Safari 5.1.5
>
> In both cases the click on the download butotn give me the correct
> download, perfect ;-)
>

YAY!


>
>
> Some questions as release manager:
>
> - the link "Searching for another version? Get all platforms, languages,
> language packs" guide me on an old page. Do we have the new page with the
> reduced number of released languages already in place?
>

yes, we do...it is not linked in and will need to retaing its current name
but you can see the new version at:

 http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/other_new_dl.html


> Does "source archives" on this page provide links to our source release?
>

see above page...


>
> - the link "Release Notes"
> Do we have it in place as html file that fits in here? I know we have it
> in the wiki and there as html as well. But is the plan here?
>

I just sent out a note about this. We have one in development but it's not
where it should be.


> - the "MD5 checksums"
> I have read that we will probably change it to "Signatures and Hashes". Do
> we have the page/script behind it?
>
> Or should we simply provide 4 links ASC, MD5, SHA1, SHA512 with a simple
> script appending the correct extension. Everything else should be in place
> already.
>

This is a BIG unanswered question at the moment-- please see the

"Distributing AOO 3.4: The 22 things we need to do before we announce"

thread...Rob's last comments...


> Sorry if my questions are already answered somewhere, it's easy to miss
> some mails at the moment.
>

No problem...there's a LOT going on...

>
> Juergen
>
>
>
> On 5/1/12 6:22 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
>
>> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 3:46 AM, Regina Henschel<rb...@t-online.de>
>> >wrote:
>>
>>  Hi Kay,
>>>
>>> Kay Schenk schrieb:
>>>
>>>  Regina--
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for all this work. Please see comments inline below...
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Regina Henschel<rb.henschel@t-online.*
>>>> ***
>>>> de<rb...@t-online.de>>**wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Hi,
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> my test results are below, all on German WinXP Home, SP3.
>>>>>
>>>>>  [..]
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>>  With Opera 11.62
>>>>
>>>>> =============================
>>>>>
>>>>> Calling http://ooo-site.staging.****apac**he.org/download/test/**<**
>>>>> http://apache.org/download/**test/**<http://apache.org/download/test/**>
>>>>> >
>>>>> index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-****site.staging.apache.org/**
>>>>> download/test/index_new_dl.****html<http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>>>> apache.org/download/test/**index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The green download box is missing totally.
>>>>>
>>>>> Calling http://www.openoffice.org/******download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/****download/test/analyze.html>
>>>>> <htt**p://www.openoffice.org/****download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze.html>
>>>>> >
>>>>> <htt**p://www.openoffice.org/****download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze.html>
>>>>> <ht**tp://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> results in
>>>>>
>>>>> navigator.platform: Win32
>>>>> navigator.UserAgent: Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 5.1; U; de) Presto/2.10.229
>>>>> Version/11.62
>>>>> navigator.UserAgent lower case: opera/9.80 (windows nt 5.1; u; de)
>>>>> presto/2.10.229 version/11.62
>>>>> navigator.UserAgent lower case: -1
>>>>> getLink(): undefined
>>>>> getPlatform(): Windows
>>>>> getLanguage(): German
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> window.location.href    http://www.openoffice.org/**
>>>>> download/test/analyze.html<**htt**p://www.openoffice.org/**
>>>>>
>>>>> download/test/analyze.html<htt**p://www.openoffice.org/**
>>>>> download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  navigator.platform      Win32
>>>>> navigator.platform.******toLowerCase()        win32
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> navigator.userAgent     Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 5.1; U; de)
>>>>> Presto/2.10.229
>>>>> Version/11.62
>>>>> navigator.userAgent.******toLowerCase()       opera/9.80 (windows nt
>>>>> 5.1;
>>>>>
>>>>> u;
>>>>>
>>>>> de) presto/2.10.229 version/11.62
>>>>> navigator.language      de
>>>>> navigator.userLanguage  de
>>>>> navigator.systemLanguage        undefined
>>>>> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  OK -- well this is NOT good, but what kind of results do you get with
>>>>>
>>>> Opera
>>>> for:
>>>>
>>>>  http://www.openoffice.org/****download/legacy/<http://www.openoffice.org/**download/legacy/>
>>>> <http://www.**openoffice.org/download/**legacy/<http://www.openoffice.org/download/legacy/>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> same thing or ????
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Yes, same error. The green box is missing.
>>>
>>
>>
>> OK -- well I feel a little better at least. I don't know what it is about
>> JS and Opera but I know when Marcus and I were working on something a few
>> years ago, we had a LOT of problems with Opera.
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  Despite the fact that Opera is supposed to be the most W3 compliant
>>>> browser, I know folks have had issues with it...
>>>>
>>>>  [..]
>>>
>>> I see JavaScript errors in the 'Fehlerkonsole', besides some messages
>>> about CSS, copy&paste below.
>>>
>>>
>> yeah-- nothing fatal... OK
>>
>>
>>
>>> Kind regards
>>> Regina
>>>
>>> [01.05.2012 12:44:46] CSS - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>> apache.org/css/ooo.css<http://**ooo-site.staging.apache.org/**
>>> css/ooo.css <http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/css/ooo.css>>
>>>
>>> Linked-in stylesheet
>>> -moz-border-radius is an unknown property
>>> Line 276:
>>>    -moz-border-radius: 0 0 10px 0;
>>>  ---------------------^
>>> [01.05.2012 12:44:46] CSS - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>> apache.org/css/ooo.css<http://**ooo-site.staging.apache.org/**
>>> css/ooo.css <http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/css/ooo.css>>
>>>
>>> Linked-in stylesheet
>>> -moz-border-radius is an unknown property
>>> Line 328:
>>>    -moz-border-radius: 0 10px 10px 0;
>>>  ---------------------^
>>> [01.05.2012 12:44:46] CSS - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>> apache.org/css/ooo.css<http://**ooo-site.staging.apache.org/**
>>> css/ooo.css <http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/css/ooo.css>>
>>>
>>> Linked-in stylesheet
>>> Selector syntax error
>>> Line 470:
>>>  img { border: 0px; }
>>>  -----^
>>> [25.01.1970 07:34:22] JavaScript - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>> apache.org/download/test/****download_new_dl.js<http://apache.org/download/test/**download_new_dl.js>
>>> <http://ooo-**site.staging.apache.org/**download/test/download_new_dl.**
>>> js <http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/download_new_dl.js>
>>> >
>>>
>>> Linked script compilation
>>> Syntax error at line 883 while loading: expected ';', got '304'
>>> HTTP/1.1 304 Not Modified
>>> ---------^
>>> [25.03.1970 11:30:57] JavaScript - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>> apache.org/download/test/****languages_new_dl.js<http://apache.org/download/test/**languages_new_dl.js>
>>> <http://**ooo-site.staging.apache.org/**download/test/languages_new_**
>>> dl.js<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/languages_new_dl.js>
>>> >
>>>
>>> Linked script compilation
>>> Syntax error at line 104 while loading: expected ';', got '200'
>>> HTTP/1.1 200 OK
>>> ---------^
>>> [25.03.1970 11:30:57] JavaScript - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>> apache.org/download/test/****download_new_mirrorbrain.js<http://apache.org/download/test/**download_new_mirrorbrain.js>
>>> <ht**tp://ooo-site.staging.apache.**org/download/test/download_**
>>> new_mirrorbrain.js<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/download_new_mirrorbrain.js>
>>> >
>>>
>>> Linked script compilation
>>> Syntax error at line 595 while loading: expected ';', got '304'
>>> HTTP/1.1 304 Not Modified
>>> ---------^
>>> [01.05.2012 12:44:47] JavaScript - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>> apache.org/download/scripts/****entourage.js<http://apache.org/download/scripts/**entourage.js>
>>> <http://ooo-site.**staging.apache.org/download/**scripts/entourage.js<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/scripts/entourage.js>
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> Das verlinkte Skript wurde nicht geladen.
>>> [01.05.2012 12:44:47] CSS - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>> apache.org/download/test/****index_new_dl.html<http://apache.org/download/test/**index_new_dl.html>
>>> <http://ooo-**site.staging.apache.org/**download/test/index_new_dl.**
>>> html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>> >
>>>
>>> HTML style attribute
>>> relative is an unknown property
>>> Line 1:
>>>  relative; margin: 14px 0 0 0; height: 24px;
>>>  ---------^
>>> [01.05.2012 12:44:47] CSS - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>> apache.org/download/test/****index_new_dl.html<http://apache.org/download/test/**index_new_dl.html>
>>> <http://ooo-**site.staging.apache.org/**download/test/index_new_dl.**
>>> html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>> >
>>>
>>> HTML style attribute
>>> Declaration syntax error
>>> Line 1:
>>>  relative; margin: 14px 0 0 0; height: 24px;
>>>  ---------^
>>> [18.03.1970 15:40:44] JavaScript - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>> apache.org/download/test/****index_new_dl.html<http://apache.org/download/test/**index_new_dl.html>
>>> <http://ooo-**site.staging.apache.org/**download/test/index_new_dl.**
>>> html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>> >
>>>
>>> Inline script thread
>>> Uncaught exception: ReferenceError: Undefined variable: getLink
>>> Error thrown at line 3, column 2 in http://ooo-site.staging.**
>>> apache.org/download/test/****index_new_dl.html<http://apache.org/download/test/**index_new_dl.html>
>>> <http://ooo-**site.staging.apache.org/**download/test/index_new_dl.**
>>> html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>> >
>>>
>>> :
>>>    LINK = getLink( VERSION, MIRROR, SCHEMA );
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Thanks again for you help...moving on to other things now...still much to
>> do
>>
>>
>


-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MzK

"Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
 And life has a funny way of helping you out
 Helping you out."
                            -- "Ironic", Alanis Morissette

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by Jürgen Schmidt <jo...@googlemail.com>.
Hi,

I have tested 
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html on 
MacOS 10.7.3 with Firefox 12.0 and Safari 5.1.5

In both cases the click on the download butotn give me the correct 
download, perfect ;-)


Some questions as release manager:

- the link "Searching for another version? Get all platforms, languages, 
language packs" guide me on an old page. Do we have the new page with 
the reduced number of released languages already in place?

Does "source archives" on this page provide links to our source release?

- the link "Release Notes"
Do we have it in place as html file that fits in here? I know we have it 
in the wiki and there as html as well. But is the plan here?

- the "MD5 checksums"
I have read that we will probably change it to "Signatures and Hashes". 
Do we have the page/script behind it?

Or should we simply provide 4 links ASC, MD5, SHA1, SHA512 with a simple 
script appending the correct extension. Everything else should be in 
place already.

Sorry if my questions are already answered somewhere, it's easy to miss 
some mails at the moment.

Juergen


On 5/1/12 6:22 PM, Kay Schenk wrote:
> On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 3:46 AM, Regina Henschel<rb...@t-online.de>wrote:
>
>> Hi Kay,
>>
>> Kay Schenk schrieb:
>>
>>   Regina--
>>>
>>> Thanks for all this work. Please see comments inline below...
>>>
>>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Regina Henschel<rb.henschel@t-online.**
>>> de<rb...@t-online.de>>wrote:
>>>
>>>   Hi,
>>>>
>>>> my test results are below, all on German WinXP Home, SP3.
>>>>
>>>>   [..]
>>
>>>
>>>   With Opera 11.62
>>>> =============================
>>>>
>>>> Calling http://ooo-site.staging.**apac**he.org/download/test/**<http://apache.org/download/test/**>
>>>> index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-**site.staging.apache.org/**
>>>> download/test/index_new_dl.**html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The green download box is missing totally.
>>>>
>>>> Calling http://www.openoffice.org/****download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze.html>
>>>> <htt**p://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> results in
>>>>
>>>> navigator.platform: Win32
>>>> navigator.UserAgent: Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 5.1; U; de) Presto/2.10.229
>>>> Version/11.62
>>>> navigator.UserAgent lower case: opera/9.80 (windows nt 5.1; u; de)
>>>> presto/2.10.229 version/11.62
>>>> navigator.UserAgent lower case: -1
>>>> getLink(): undefined
>>>> getPlatform(): Windows
>>>> getLanguage(): German
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> window.location.href    http://www.openoffice.org/**
>>>> download/test/analyze.html<htt**p://www.openoffice.org/**
>>>> download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>>>>>
>>>> navigator.platform      Win32
>>>> navigator.platform.****toLowerCase()        win32
>>>>
>>>> navigator.userAgent     Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 5.1; U; de)
>>>> Presto/2.10.229
>>>> Version/11.62
>>>> navigator.userAgent.****toLowerCase()       opera/9.80 (windows nt 5.1;
>>>> u;
>>>>
>>>> de) presto/2.10.229 version/11.62
>>>> navigator.language      de
>>>> navigator.userLanguage  de
>>>> navigator.systemLanguage        undefined
>>>> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>   OK -- well this is NOT good, but what kind of results do you get with
>>> Opera
>>> for:
>>>
>>>   http://www.openoffice.org/**download/legacy/<http://www.openoffice.org/download/legacy/>
>>>
>>> same thing or ????
>>>
>>
>> Yes, same error. The green box is missing.
>
>
> OK -- well I feel a little better at least. I don't know what it is about
> JS and Opera but I know when Marcus and I were working on something a few
> years ago, we had a LOT of problems with Opera.
>
>
>>
>>
>>
>>> Despite the fact that Opera is supposed to be the most W3 compliant
>>> browser, I know folks have had issues with it...
>>>
>> [..]
>>
>> I see JavaScript errors in the 'Fehlerkonsole', besides some messages
>> about CSS, copy&paste below.
>>
>
> yeah-- nothing fatal... OK
>
>
>>
>> Kind regards
>> Regina
>>
>> [01.05.2012 12:44:46] CSS - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>> apache.org/css/ooo.css<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/css/ooo.css>
>> Linked-in stylesheet
>> -moz-border-radius is an unknown property
>> Line 276:
>>     -moz-border-radius: 0 0 10px 0;
>>   ---------------------^
>> [01.05.2012 12:44:46] CSS - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>> apache.org/css/ooo.css<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/css/ooo.css>
>> Linked-in stylesheet
>> -moz-border-radius is an unknown property
>> Line 328:
>>     -moz-border-radius: 0 10px 10px 0;
>>   ---------------------^
>> [01.05.2012 12:44:46] CSS - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>> apache.org/css/ooo.css<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/css/ooo.css>
>> Linked-in stylesheet
>> Selector syntax error
>> Line 470:
>>   img { border: 0px; }
>>   -----^
>> [25.01.1970 07:34:22] JavaScript - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>> apache.org/download/test/**download_new_dl.js<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/download_new_dl.js>
>> Linked script compilation
>> Syntax error at line 883 while loading: expected ';', got '304'
>> HTTP/1.1 304 Not Modified
>> ---------^
>> [25.03.1970 11:30:57] JavaScript - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>> apache.org/download/test/**languages_new_dl.js<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/languages_new_dl.js>
>> Linked script compilation
>> Syntax error at line 104 while loading: expected ';', got '200'
>> HTTP/1.1 200 OK
>> ---------^
>> [25.03.1970 11:30:57] JavaScript - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>> apache.org/download/test/**download_new_mirrorbrain.js<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/download_new_mirrorbrain.js>
>> Linked script compilation
>> Syntax error at line 595 while loading: expected ';', got '304'
>> HTTP/1.1 304 Not Modified
>> ---------^
>> [01.05.2012 12:44:47] JavaScript - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>> apache.org/download/scripts/**entourage.js<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/scripts/entourage.js>
>>
>> Das verlinkte Skript wurde nicht geladen.
>> [01.05.2012 12:44:47] CSS - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>> apache.org/download/test/**index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>> HTML style attribute
>> relative is an unknown property
>> Line 1:
>>   relative; margin: 14px 0 0 0; height: 24px;
>>   ---------^
>> [01.05.2012 12:44:47] CSS - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>> apache.org/download/test/**index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>> HTML style attribute
>> Declaration syntax error
>> Line 1:
>>   relative; margin: 14px 0 0 0; height: 24px;
>>   ---------^
>> [18.03.1970 15:40:44] JavaScript - http://ooo-site.staging.**
>> apache.org/download/test/**index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>> Inline script thread
>> Uncaught exception: ReferenceError: Undefined variable: getLink
>> Error thrown at line 3, column 2 in http://ooo-site.staging.**
>> apache.org/download/test/**index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>> :
>>     LINK = getLink( VERSION, MIRROR, SCHEMA );
>>
>
>
> Thanks again for you help...moving on to other things now...still much to do
>


Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, May 1, 2012 at 3:46 AM, Regina Henschel <rb...@t-online.de>wrote:

> Hi Kay,
>
> Kay Schenk schrieb:
>
>  Regina--
>>
>> Thanks for all this work. Please see comments inline below...
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Regina Henschel<rb.henschel@t-online.**
>> de <rb...@t-online.de>>wrote:
>>
>>  Hi,
>>>
>>> my test results are below, all on German WinXP Home, SP3.
>>>
>>>  [..]
>
>>
>>  With Opera 11.62
>>> =============================
>>>
>>> Calling http://ooo-site.staging.**apac**he.org/download/test/**<http://apache.org/download/test/**>
>>> index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-**site.staging.apache.org/**
>>> download/test/index_new_dl.**html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> The green download box is missing totally.
>>>
>>> Calling http://www.openoffice.org/****download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze.html>
>>> <htt**p://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>>> >
>>>
>>> results in
>>>
>>> navigator.platform: Win32
>>> navigator.UserAgent: Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 5.1; U; de) Presto/2.10.229
>>> Version/11.62
>>> navigator.UserAgent lower case: opera/9.80 (windows nt 5.1; u; de)
>>> presto/2.10.229 version/11.62
>>> navigator.UserAgent lower case: -1
>>> getLink(): undefined
>>> getPlatform(): Windows
>>> getLanguage(): German
>>>
>>>
>>> window.location.href    http://www.openoffice.org/**
>>> download/test/analyze.html<htt**p://www.openoffice.org/**
>>> download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>>> >
>>> navigator.platform      Win32
>>> navigator.platform.****toLowerCase()        win32
>>>
>>> navigator.userAgent     Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 5.1; U; de)
>>> Presto/2.10.229
>>> Version/11.62
>>> navigator.userAgent.****toLowerCase()       opera/9.80 (windows nt 5.1;
>>> u;
>>>
>>> de) presto/2.10.229 version/11.62
>>> navigator.language      de
>>> navigator.userLanguage  de
>>> navigator.systemLanguage        undefined
>>> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
>>>
>>>
>>>  OK -- well this is NOT good, but what kind of results do you get with
>> Opera
>> for:
>>
>>  http://www.openoffice.org/**download/legacy/<http://www.openoffice.org/download/legacy/>
>>
>> same thing or ????
>>
>
> Yes, same error. The green box is missing.


OK -- well I feel a little better at least. I don't know what it is about
JS and Opera but I know when Marcus and I were working on something a few
years ago, we had a LOT of problems with Opera.


>
>
>
>> Despite the fact that Opera is supposed to be the most W3 compliant
>> browser, I know folks have had issues with it...
>>
> [..]
>
> I see JavaScript errors in the 'Fehlerkonsole', besides some messages
> about CSS, copy&paste below.
>

yeah-- nothing fatal... OK


>
> Kind regards
> Regina
>
> [01.05.2012 12:44:46] CSS - http://ooo-site.staging.**
> apache.org/css/ooo.css <http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/css/ooo.css>
> Linked-in stylesheet
> -moz-border-radius is an unknown property
> Line 276:
>    -moz-border-radius: 0 0 10px 0;
>  ---------------------^
> [01.05.2012 12:44:46] CSS - http://ooo-site.staging.**
> apache.org/css/ooo.css <http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/css/ooo.css>
> Linked-in stylesheet
> -moz-border-radius is an unknown property
> Line 328:
>    -moz-border-radius: 0 10px 10px 0;
>  ---------------------^
> [01.05.2012 12:44:46] CSS - http://ooo-site.staging.**
> apache.org/css/ooo.css <http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/css/ooo.css>
> Linked-in stylesheet
> Selector syntax error
> Line 470:
>  img { border: 0px; }
>  -----^
> [25.01.1970 07:34:22] JavaScript - http://ooo-site.staging.**
> apache.org/download/test/**download_new_dl.js<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/download_new_dl.js>
> Linked script compilation
> Syntax error at line 883 while loading: expected ';', got '304'
> HTTP/1.1 304 Not Modified
> ---------^
> [25.03.1970 11:30:57] JavaScript - http://ooo-site.staging.**
> apache.org/download/test/**languages_new_dl.js<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/languages_new_dl.js>
> Linked script compilation
> Syntax error at line 104 while loading: expected ';', got '200'
> HTTP/1.1 200 OK
> ---------^
> [25.03.1970 11:30:57] JavaScript - http://ooo-site.staging.**
> apache.org/download/test/**download_new_mirrorbrain.js<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/download_new_mirrorbrain.js>
> Linked script compilation
> Syntax error at line 595 while loading: expected ';', got '304'
> HTTP/1.1 304 Not Modified
> ---------^
> [01.05.2012 12:44:47] JavaScript - http://ooo-site.staging.**
> apache.org/download/scripts/**entourage.js<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/scripts/entourage.js>
>
> Das verlinkte Skript wurde nicht geladen.
> [01.05.2012 12:44:47] CSS - http://ooo-site.staging.**
> apache.org/download/test/**index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
> HTML style attribute
> relative is an unknown property
> Line 1:
>  relative; margin: 14px 0 0 0; height: 24px;
>  ---------^
> [01.05.2012 12:44:47] CSS - http://ooo-site.staging.**
> apache.org/download/test/**index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
> HTML style attribute
> Declaration syntax error
> Line 1:
>  relative; margin: 14px 0 0 0; height: 24px;
>  ---------^
> [18.03.1970 15:40:44] JavaScript - http://ooo-site.staging.**
> apache.org/download/test/**index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
> Inline script thread
> Uncaught exception: ReferenceError: Undefined variable: getLink
> Error thrown at line 3, column 2 in http://ooo-site.staging.**
> apache.org/download/test/**index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
> :
>    LINK = getLink( VERSION, MIRROR, SCHEMA );
>


Thanks again for you help...moving on to other things now...still much to do

-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MzK

"Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
 And life has a funny way of helping you out
 Helping you out."
                            -- "Ironic", Alanis Morissette

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by Regina Henschel <rb...@t-online.de>.
Hi Kay,

Kay Schenk schrieb:
> Regina--
>
> Thanks for all this work. Please see comments inline below...
>
> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Regina Henschel<rb...@t-online.de>wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> my test results are below, all on German WinXP Home, SP3.
>>
[..]
>
>> With Opera 11.62
>> =============================
>>
>> Calling http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**
>> index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>
>> The green download box is missing totally.
>>
>> Calling http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>> results in
>>
>> navigator.platform: Win32
>> navigator.UserAgent: Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 5.1; U; de) Presto/2.10.229
>> Version/11.62
>> navigator.UserAgent lower case: opera/9.80 (windows nt 5.1; u; de)
>> presto/2.10.229 version/11.62
>> navigator.UserAgent lower case: -1
>> getLink(): undefined
>> getPlatform(): Windows
>> getLanguage(): German
>>
>>
>> window.location.href    http://www.openoffice.org/**
>> download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>> navigator.platform      Win32
>> navigator.platform.**toLowerCase()        win32
>> navigator.userAgent     Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 5.1; U; de) Presto/2.10.229
>> Version/11.62
>> navigator.userAgent.**toLowerCase()       opera/9.80 (windows nt 5.1; u;
>> de) presto/2.10.229 version/11.62
>> navigator.language      de
>> navigator.userLanguage  de
>> navigator.systemLanguage        undefined
>> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
>>
>>
> OK -- well this is NOT good, but what kind of results do you get with Opera
> for:
>
>   http://www.openoffice.org/download/legacy/
>
> same thing or ????

Yes, same error. The green box is missing.

>
> Despite the fact that Opera is supposed to be the most W3 compliant
> browser, I know folks have had issues with it...
[..]

I see JavaScript errors in the 'Fehlerkonsole', besides some messages 
about CSS, copy&paste below.

Kind regards
Regina

[01.05.2012 12:44:46] CSS - http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/css/ooo.css
Linked-in stylesheet
-moz-border-radius is an unknown property
Line 276:
     -moz-border-radius: 0 0 10px 0;
   ---------------------^
[01.05.2012 12:44:46] CSS - http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/css/ooo.css
Linked-in stylesheet
-moz-border-radius is an unknown property
Line 328:
     -moz-border-radius: 0 10px 10px 0;
   ---------------------^
[01.05.2012 12:44:46] CSS - http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/css/ooo.css
Linked-in stylesheet
Selector syntax error
Line 470:
   img { border: 0px; }
   -----^
[25.01.1970 07:34:22] JavaScript - 
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/download_new_dl.js
Linked script compilation
Syntax error at line 883 while loading: expected ';', got '304'
HTTP/1.1 304 Not Modified
---------^
[25.03.1970 11:30:57] JavaScript - 
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/languages_new_dl.js
Linked script compilation
Syntax error at line 104 while loading: expected ';', got '200'
HTTP/1.1 200 OK
---------^
[25.03.1970 11:30:57] JavaScript - 
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/download_new_mirrorbrain.js
Linked script compilation
Syntax error at line 595 while loading: expected ';', got '304'
HTTP/1.1 304 Not Modified
---------^
[01.05.2012 12:44:47] JavaScript - 
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/scripts/entourage.js

Das verlinkte Skript wurde nicht geladen.
[01.05.2012 12:44:47] CSS - 
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html
HTML style attribute
relative is an unknown property
Line 1:
   relative; margin: 14px 0 0 0; height: 24px;
   ---------^
[01.05.2012 12:44:47] CSS - 
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html
HTML style attribute
Declaration syntax error
Line 1:
   relative; margin: 14px 0 0 0; height: 24px;
   ---------^
[18.03.1970 15:40:44] JavaScript - 
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html
Inline script thread
Uncaught exception: ReferenceError: Undefined variable: getLink
Error thrown at line 3, column 2 in 
http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html:
     LINK = getLink( VERSION, MIRROR, SCHEMA );

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.

On 04/30/2012 08:30 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:
> Kay- I've setup a new script for you to use for
> Openoffice downloads from Apache mirrors- simply
> replace "closer.cgi" with "aoo-closer.cgi" in your
> paths.� Please don't forget this or users could
> be directed to mirrors which have opted out of
> carrying AOO releases.
>
>

OK, Joe -- I just tested this out as well, and all good!

Thanks so much!
>
>
>> ________________________________
>> From: Kay Schenk<ka...@gmail.com>
>> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
>> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 7:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction
>>
>> Regina--
>>
>> Thanks for all this work. Please see comments inline below...
>>
>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Regina Henschel<rb...@t-online.de>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> my test results are below, all on German WinXP Home, SP3.
>>>
>>> kind regards
>>> Regina
>>>
>>> Marcus (OOo) schrieb:
>>>
>>> � Am 04/30/2012 11:21 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 04/30/2012 11:37 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 04/30/2012 04:53 AM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Kay Schenk<ka...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 04/27/2012 01:46 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> � On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Andrea Pescetti<pescetti@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> � Kay Schenk wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Please take a look at and give feedback on a test page for the new
>>>>>>>>>>> /download/index.html page at:
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/****download/test/index_new_dl.****html<http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/index_new_dl.**html>
>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.openoffice.**org/download/test/index_new_**dl.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, it's a bit strange with lots of nonsense at the top that I
>>>>>>>>>>> wanted
>>>>>>>>>>> you to see, but will of course go away in production.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The page is nice, but it's the concept that leaves me dubious.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We have another thread
>>>>>>>>>> http://comments.gmane.org/****gmane.comp.apache.incubator.**<http://comments.gmane.org/**gmane.comp.apache.incubator.**>
>>>>>>>>>> ooo.devel/16219<http://**comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.**
>>>>>>>>>> apache.incubator.ooo.devel/**16219<http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.incubator.ooo.devel/16219>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> where there seems to be consensus towards a solution that:
>>>>>>>>>> 1) Uses SF (and possibly Apache) for the web-based downloads
>>>>>>>>>> 2) Does not phase out MirrorBrain, and uses it for the updates
>>>>>>>>>> (i.e.,
>>>>>>>>>> downloads initiated by OpenOffice with the "Look for updates"
>>>>>>>>>> function)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> � That's what I understand as well.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> oh -- OK. I thought we were going to use MirrorBrain for 3.3 DLs as
>>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>>> -- i.e. what Marcus will be working on. I know right now, we're using
>>>>>>>> SourceForge for that though.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> � The "possibly Apache" in 1) is due to the fact that I haven't
>>>>>>>>> understood
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> yet
>>>>>>>>>> what technology Apache will be using and if Apache will distribute
>>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>>> sources or binaries too (it's obvious that we as a project will
>>>>>>>>>> release
>>>>>>>>>> sources and binaries, but I'm not 100% sure that Apache wants to put
>>>>>>>>>> binaries on its mirrors too: I think so).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> � Well it's not all that complicated actually. Take a look at the
>>>>>>>> security
>>>>>>>> patch info page...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/****security/cves/CVE-2012-0037.****html<http://www.openoffice.org/**security/cves/CVE-2012-0037.**html>
>>>>>>>> <http://www.openoffice.**org/security/cves/CVE-2012-**0037.html<http://www.openoffice.org/security/cves/CVE-2012-0037.html>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and you can see what the link looks like.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Actual source/binaries are, for us, put in:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/dist/****incubator/ooo/<http://www.apache.org/dist/**incubator/ooo/>
>>>>>>>> <http://www.**apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/<http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/>
>>>>>>>> **>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This said, you could be right in having issues tracking down problems.
>>>>>>>> Right now, the SF setup is more "user friendly" in my opinion. I
>>>>>>>> thought we
>>>>>>>> were *required* to use Apache for downloads, but maybe we've gotten a
>>>>>>>> dispensation for this release. Though I didn't think is was 100%
>>>>>>>> someplace
>>>>>>>> else. I admit I haven't kept up as much as I should have though.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The other issue is how will it LOOK to users -- one moment they may
>>>>>>>> be one
>>>>>>>> place; if they happen to do a shift-reload, they may go someplace
>>>>>>>> else with
>>>>>>>> an entirely different look and feel.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> � Fact is, we should avoid the random selection as much as possible,
>>>>>>>>>> mainly to
>>>>>>>>>> be able to quickly identify problems, and you will see details in
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> thread. The cleaner separation we can get, the better.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> � So how about something very simple:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 1) AOO 3.4 downloads use SourceForge by default from the
>>>>>>>>> /download/index.html page. Just like they are doing today.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This WOULD make things a lot simpler.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> � But we also have a links there that point to Apache mirrors for:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> a) Hashes and detached signatures
>>>>>>>>> b) source distribution
>>>>>>>>> c) a link to the full release tree
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Well, SF will need to implement in their sidebar or the main page for
>>>>>>>> openoffice.org they have, right?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Anyway, good conversation.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> � In other words, no rolling the dice, noting fancy. 100% of normal
>>>>>>>>> users will download from SF.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2) When we enable the automated updates, in a week or two, then we
>>>>>>>>> decide what we want to do. Maybe we do it via SF. Maybe MirrorBrain.
>>>>>>>>> Maybe a mix,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On the other side, release time is approaching and I can only hope
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> talks between Peter Poeml (MirrorBrain author) and Apache Infra,
>>>>>>>>>> that had
>>>>>>>>>> started on this list, are progressing now.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> � I think it is too late for any of those talks to influence how we
>>>>>>>>> deal
>>>>>>>>> with AOO 3.4 initial downloads. But maybe the update downloads in a
>>>>>>>>> couple of weeks.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -Rob
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Andrea.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> � --
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------****----------------------------**--**
>>>>>>>> ------------
>>>>>>>> MzK
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> "Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
>>>>>>>> And life has a funny way of helping you out
>>>>>>>> Helping you out."
>>>>>>>> -- "Ironic", Alanis Morissette
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ok, I am hoping this will be about the last, final review on the new
>>>>>>> download/index.html --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> prototype at:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This assumes SourceForge ONLY, and that the 3.4 pre-built client packs
>>>>>>> will be in the hiearchy as the 3.3 is -- stable, etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Naturally NONE of the links will work until something gets out there
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> there is a TON of alerts which I will of course eventually comment out.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I've tested the following:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1.
>>>>>> Linux with Firefox -->  Linux x86-64 RPM de -->  the text in the pop-ups
>>>>>> makes sense -->  OK
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2.
>>>>>> Windows XP with MSIE -->  error -->  the detailed error message says:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Line: 104
>>>>>> Char: 1
>>>>>> Error: Identifier, string or number expected
>>>>>> Code: 0
>>>>>> URL: http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**
>>>>>> index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Line: 286
>>>>>> Char: 2
>>>>>> Error: 'languages' is not defined
>>>>>> Code: 0
>>>>>> URL: http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**
>>>>>> index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -->  finally only a blue box for the extensions
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> hmmm...well I shouldn't have changed anything that caused this, but
>>>>> definitely NOT good. OK, thanks. What are you showing for your
>>>>> "language" -- i.e. according to your UA string?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Good that you've asked. I remember that we have this webpage:
>>>>
>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>>>>
>>>> So, I've updated it a bit and nowI get the following browser data:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> window.location.href http://ooo-site.apache.org/**
>>>> download/test/analyze.html<http://ooo-site.apache.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>>>> navigator.platform Linux x86_64
>>>> navigator.platform.**toLowerCase() linux x86_64
>>>> navigator.userAgent Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:2.0.1)
>>>> Gecko/20100101 Firefox/4.0.1
>>>> navigator.userAgent.**toLowerCase() mozilla/5.0 (x11; linux x86_64;
>>>> rv:2.0.1) gecko/20100101 firefox/4.0.1
>>>> navigator.language de-DE
>>>> navigator.userLanguage undefined
>>>> navigator.systemLanguage undefined
>>>> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> window.location.href http://www.openoffice.org/**
>>>> download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>>>> navigator.platform Win32
>>>> navigator.platform.**toLowerCase() win32
>>>> navigator.userAgent Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1;
>>>> SV1)
>>>> navigator.userAgent.**toLowerCase() mozilla/4.0 (compatible; msie 6.0;
>>>> windows nt 5.1; sv1)
>>>> navigator.language undefined
>>>> navigator.userLanguage de
>>>> navigator.systemLanguage de
>>>> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> It seems that on Linux the "navigator.language" is set. On Windows this
>>>> is not set but the "navigator.userLanguage" and
>>>> "navigator.systemLanguage". All 3 are handled in "download.js" (or in
>>>> your new "download_new_dl.js").
>>>>
>>>> Maybe it's helpful to output some debug messages around this area?
>>>>
>>>> @All:
>>>> Can others please test on Windows with MSIE and Firefox? I really hope
>>>> it's just my Windows XP (in a Virtualbox VM).
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>> With Opera 11.62
>>> =============================
>>>
>>> Calling http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**
>>> index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>
>>> The green download box is missing totally.
>>>
>>> Calling http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>>> results in
>>>
>>> navigator.platform: Win32
>>> navigator.UserAgent: Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 5.1; U; de) Presto/2.10.229
>>> Version/11.62
>>> navigator.UserAgent lower case: opera/9.80 (windows nt 5.1; u; de)
>>> presto/2.10.229 version/11.62
>>> navigator.UserAgent lower case: -1
>>> getLink(): undefined
>>> getPlatform(): Windows
>>> getLanguage(): German
>>>
>>>
>>> window.location.href� � http://www.openoffice.org/**
>>> download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>>> navigator.platform� � � Win32
>>> navigator.platform.**toLowerCase()� � � � win32
>>> navigator.userAgent� �  Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 5.1; U; de) Presto/2.10.229
>>> Version/11.62
>>> navigator.userAgent.**toLowerCase()� � �  opera/9.80 (windows nt 5.1; u;
>>> de) presto/2.10.229 version/11.62
>>> navigator.language� � � de
>>> navigator.userLanguage� de
>>> navigator.systemLanguage� � � � undefined
>>> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
>>>
>>>
>> OK -- well this is NOT good, but what kind of results do you get with Opera
>> for:
>>
>> http://www.openoffice.org/download/legacy/
>>
>> same thing or ????
>>
>> Despite the fact that Opera is supposed to be the most W3 compliant
>> browser, I know folks have had issues with it...
>>
>>
>> with Windows Internet Explorer 8
>>> ==============================**==
>>> Calling http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**
>>> index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>
>>> All looks OK.
>>>
>>> Calling http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>>> results in
>>>
>>> navigator.platform: Win32
>>> navigator.UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1;
>>> Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152;
>>> .NET CLR 3.5.30729; InfoPath.2; BRI/2; .NET4.0C; .NET4.0E;
>>> OfficeLiveConnector.1.5; OfficeLivePatch.1.3; Microsoft.com Optimized IE8)
>>> navigator.UserAgent lower case: mozilla/4.0 (compatible; msie 7.0; windows
>>> nt 5.1; trident/4.0; .net clr 2.0.50727; .net clr 1.1.4322; .net clr
>>> 3.0.4506.2152; .net clr 3.5.30729; infopath.2; bri/2; .net4.0c; .net4.0e;
>>> officeliveconnector.1.5; officelivepatch.1.3; microsoft.com optimized ie8)
>>> navigator.UserAgent lower case: -1
>>> getLink(): undefined
>>> getPlatform(): Windows
>>> getLanguage(): German
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> window.location.href� http://www.openoffice.org/**
>>> download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>>> navigator.platform� Win32
>>> navigator.platform.**toLowerCase()� win32
>>> navigator.userAgent� Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1;
>>> Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152;
>>> .NET CLR 3.5.30729; InfoPath.2; BRI/2; .NET4.0C; .NET4.0E;
>>> OfficeLiveConnector.1.5; OfficeLivePatch.1.3; Microsoft.com Optimized IE8)
>>> navigator.userAgent.**toLowerCase() mozilla/4.0 (compatible; msie 7.0;
>>> windows nt 5.1; trident/4.0; .net clr 2.0.50727; .net clr 1.1.4322; .net
>>> clr 3.0.4506.2152; .net clr 3.5.30729; infopath.2; bri/2; .net4.0c;
>>> .net4.0e; officeliveconnector.1.5; officelivepatch.1.3; microsoft.comoptimized ie8)
>>>
>>> navigator.language� undefined
>>> navigator.userLanguage� de
>>> navigator.systemLanguage de
>>> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
>>>
>>> with Seamonkey 2.9
>>> ==================
>>>
>>> All looks OK.
>>> Calling http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>>> results in
>>>
>>> navigator.platform: Win32
>>> navigator.UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120422
>>> Firefox/12.0 SeaMonkey/2.9
>>> navigator.UserAgent lower case: mozilla/5.0 (windows nt 5.1; rv:12.0)
>>> gecko/20120422 firefox/12.0 seamonkey/2.9
>>> navigator.UserAgent lower case: -1
>>> getLink(): undefined
>>> getPlatform(): Windows
>>> getLanguage(): German
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> window.location.href� � http://www.openoffice.org/**
>>> download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>>> navigator.platform� � � Win32
>>> navigator.platform.**toLowerCase()� � � � win32
>>> navigator.userAgent� �  Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:12.0)
>>> Gecko/20120422 Firefox/12.0 SeaMonkey/2.9
>>> navigator.userAgent.**toLowerCase()� � �  mozilla/5.0 (windows nt 5.1;
>>> rv:12.0) gecko/20120422 firefox/12.0 seamonkey/2.9
>>>
>>> navigator.language� � � de-DE
>>> navigator.userLanguage� undefined
>>> navigator.systemLanguage� � � � undefined
>>> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
>>>
>>>
>> OK, thanks again. I did discover and correct a rather odd bug that was
>> affecting my simulated UA testing. Hopefully I can finish up with this
>> tomorrow if nothing else comes up.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> MzK
>>
>> "Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
>> And life has a funny way of helping you out
>> Helping you out."
>> � � � � � � � � � � � � � � -- "Ironic", Alanis Morissette
>>
>>
>>

-- 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
MzK

"Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
  And life has a funny way of helping you out
  Helping you out."
                             -- "Ironic", Alanis Morissette

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 8:30 PM, Joe Schaefer <jo...@yahoo.com>wrote:

> Kay- I've setup a new script for you to use for
> Openoffice downloads from Apache mirrors- simply
> replace "closer.cgi" with "aoo-closer.cgi" in your
> paths.  Please don't forget this or users could
> be directed to mirrors which have opted out of
> carrying AOO releases.
>
>
>
>
Joe -- I will take a look, and thanks a MILLION! hmmm...interesting comment
as well.


>
> >________________________________
> > From: Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>
> >To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 7:43 PM
> >Subject: Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and
> probably correction
> >
> >Regina--
> >
> >Thanks for all this work. Please see comments inline below...
> >
> >On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Regina Henschel <rb.henschel@t-online.de
> >wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> my test results are below, all on German WinXP Home, SP3.
> >>
> >> kind regards
> >> Regina
> >>
> >> Marcus (OOo) schrieb:
> >>
> >>  Am 04/30/2012 11:21 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
> >>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 04/30/2012 11:37 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Am 04/30/2012 04:53 AM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Kay Schenk<ka...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 04/27/2012 01:46 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>  On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Andrea Pescetti<
> pescetti@apache.org
> >>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>  Kay Schenk wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Please take a look at and give feedback on a test page for the
> new
> >>>>>>>>>> /download/index.html page at:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> http://www.openoffice.org/****download/test/index_new_dl.****html<
> http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/index_new_dl.**html>
> >>>>>>>>>> <http://www.openoffice.**org/download/test/index_new_**dl.html<
> http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
> >>>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Yes, it's a bit strange with lots of nonsense at the top that I
> >>>>>>>>>> wanted
> >>>>>>>>>> you to see, but will of course go away in production.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The page is nice, but it's the concept that leaves me dubious.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> We have another thread
> >>>>>>>>> http://comments.gmane.org/****gmane.comp.apache.incubator.**<
> http://comments.gmane.org/**gmane.comp.apache.incubator.**>
> >>>>>>>>> ooo.devel/16219<http://**comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.**
> >>>>>>>>> apache.incubator.ooo.devel/**16219<
> http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.incubator.ooo.devel/16219>
> >>>>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> where there seems to be consensus towards a solution that:
> >>>>>>>>> 1) Uses SF (and possibly Apache) for the web-based downloads
> >>>>>>>>> 2) Does not phase out MirrorBrain, and uses it for the updates
> >>>>>>>>> (i.e.,
> >>>>>>>>> downloads initiated by OpenOffice with the "Look for updates"
> >>>>>>>>> function)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>  That's what I understand as well.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> oh -- OK. I thought we were going to use MirrorBrain for 3.3 DLs as
> >>>>>>> well
> >>>>>>> -- i.e. what Marcus will be working on. I know right now, we're
> using
> >>>>>>> SourceForge for that though.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>  The "possibly Apache" in 1) is due to the fact that I haven't
> >>>>>>>> understood
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> yet
> >>>>>>>>> what technology Apache will be using and if Apache will
> distribute
> >>>>>>>>> only
> >>>>>>>>> sources or binaries too (it's obvious that we as a project will
> >>>>>>>>> release
> >>>>>>>>> sources and binaries, but I'm not 100% sure that Apache wants to
> put
> >>>>>>>>> binaries on its mirrors too: I think so).
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>  Well it's not all that complicated actually. Take a look at the
> >>>>>>> security
> >>>>>>> patch info page...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/****security/cves/CVE-2012-0037.****html
> <http://www.openoffice.org/**security/cves/CVE-2012-0037.**html>
> >>>>>>> <http://www.openoffice.**org/security/cves/CVE-2012-**0037.html<
> http://www.openoffice.org/security/cves/CVE-2012-0037.html>
> >>>>>>> >
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> and you can see what the link looks like.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Actual source/binaries are, for us, put in:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/dist/****incubator/ooo/<
> http://www.apache.org/dist/**incubator/ooo/>
> >>>>>>> <http://www.**apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/<
> http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/>
> >>>>>>> **>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> This said, you could be right in having issues tracking down
> problems.
> >>>>>>> Right now, the SF setup is more "user friendly" in my opinion. I
> >>>>>>> thought we
> >>>>>>> were *required* to use Apache for downloads, but maybe we've
> gotten a
> >>>>>>> dispensation for this release. Though I didn't think is was 100%
> >>>>>>> someplace
> >>>>>>> else. I admit I haven't kept up as much as I should have though.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The other issue is how will it LOOK to users -- one moment they may
> >>>>>>> be one
> >>>>>>> place; if they happen to do a shift-reload, they may go someplace
> >>>>>>> else with
> >>>>>>> an entirely different look and feel.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>  Fact is, we should avoid the random selection as much as possible,
> >>>>>>>>> mainly to
> >>>>>>>>> be able to quickly identify problems, and you will see details in
> >>>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>> thread. The cleaner separation we can get, the better.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>  So how about something very simple:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 1) AOO 3.4 downloads use SourceForge by default from the
> >>>>>>>> /download/index.html page. Just like they are doing today.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> This WOULD make things a lot simpler.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>  But we also have a links there that point to Apache mirrors for:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> a) Hashes and detached signatures
> >>>>>>>> b) source distribution
> >>>>>>>> c) a link to the full release tree
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Well, SF will need to implement in their sidebar or the main page
> for
> >>>>>>> openoffice.org they have, right?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Anyway, good conversation.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>  In other words, no rolling the dice, noting fancy. 100% of normal
> >>>>>>>> users will download from SF.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 2) When we enable the automated updates, in a week or two, then we
> >>>>>>>> decide what we want to do. Maybe we do it via SF. Maybe
> MirrorBrain.
> >>>>>>>> Maybe a mix,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On the other side, release time is approaching and I can only hope
> >>>>>>>> that
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> talks between Peter Poeml (MirrorBrain author) and Apache Infra,
> >>>>>>>>> that had
> >>>>>>>>> started on this list, are progressing now.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>  I think it is too late for any of those talks to influence how
> we
> >>>>>>>> deal
> >>>>>>>> with AOO 3.4 initial downloads. But maybe the update downloads in
> a
> >>>>>>>> couple of weeks.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> -Rob
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Andrea.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>  --
> >>>>>>>
> ------------------------------****----------------------------**--**
> >>>>>>> ------------
> >>>>>>> MzK
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> "Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
> >>>>>>> And life has a funny way of helping you out
> >>>>>>> Helping you out."
> >>>>>>> -- "Ironic", Alanis Morissette
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Ok, I am hoping this will be about the last, final review on the new
> >>>>>> download/index.html --
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> prototype at:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.**
> apache.org/download/test/**index_new_dl.html<
> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> This assumes SourceForge ONLY, and that the 3.4 pre-built client
> packs
> >>>>>> will be in the hiearchy as the 3.3 is -- stable, etc.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Naturally NONE of the links will work until something gets out there
> >>>>>> and
> >>>>>> there is a TON of alerts which I will of course eventually comment
> out.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I've tested the following:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 1.
> >>>>> Linux with Firefox --> Linux x86-64 RPM de --> the text in the
> pop-ups
> >>>>> makes sense --> OK
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2.
> >>>>> Windows XP with MSIE --> error --> the detailed error message says:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Line: 104
> >>>>> Char: 1
> >>>>> Error: Identifier, string or number expected
> >>>>> Code: 0
> >>>>> URL: http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**
> >>>>> index_new_dl.html<
> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Line: 286
> >>>>> Char: 2
> >>>>> Error: 'languages' is not defined
> >>>>> Code: 0
> >>>>> URL: http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**
> >>>>> index_new_dl.html<
> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --> finally only a blue box for the extensions
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>> hmmm...well I shouldn't have changed anything that caused this, but
> >>>> definitely NOT good. OK, thanks. What are you showing for your
> >>>> "language" -- i.e. according to your UA string?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Good that you've asked. I remember that we have this webpage:
> >>>
> >>> http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze.html<
> http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
> >>>
> >>> So, I've updated it a bit and nowI get the following browser data:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> window.location.href http://ooo-site.apache.org/**
> >>> download/test/analyze.html<
> http://ooo-site.apache.org/download/test/analyze.html>
> >>> navigator.platform Linux x86_64
> >>> navigator.platform.**toLowerCase() linux x86_64
> >>> navigator.userAgent Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:2.0.1)
> >>> Gecko/20100101 Firefox/4.0.1
> >>> navigator.userAgent.**toLowerCase() mozilla/5.0 (x11; linux x86_64;
> >>> rv:2.0.1) gecko/20100101 firefox/4.0.1
> >>> navigator.language de-DE
> >>> navigator.userLanguage undefined
> >>> navigator.systemLanguage undefined
> >>> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> window.location.href http://www.openoffice.org/**
> >>> download/test/analyze.html<
> http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
> >>> navigator.platform Win32
> >>> navigator.platform.**toLowerCase() win32
> >>> navigator.userAgent Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1;
> >>> SV1)
> >>> navigator.userAgent.**toLowerCase() mozilla/4.0 (compatible; msie 6.0;
> >>> windows nt 5.1; sv1)
> >>> navigator.language undefined
> >>> navigator.userLanguage de
> >>> navigator.systemLanguage de
> >>> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> It seems that on Linux the "navigator.language" is set. On Windows this
> >>> is not set but the "navigator.userLanguage" and
> >>> "navigator.systemLanguage". All 3 are handled in "download.js" (or in
> >>> your new "download_new_dl.js").
> >>>
> >>> Maybe it's helpful to output some debug messages around this area?
> >>>
> >>> @All:
> >>> Can others please test on Windows with MSIE and Firefox? I really hope
> >>> it's just my Windows XP (in a Virtualbox VM).
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >> With Opera 11.62
> >> =============================
> >>
> >> Calling http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**
> >> index_new_dl.html<
> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
> >>
> >> The green download box is missing totally.
> >>
> >> Calling http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze.html<
> http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
> >> results in
> >>
> >> navigator.platform: Win32
> >> navigator.UserAgent: Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 5.1; U; de) Presto/2.10.229
> >> Version/11.62
> >> navigator.UserAgent lower case: opera/9.80 (windows nt 5.1; u; de)
> >> presto/2.10.229 version/11.62
> >> navigator.UserAgent lower case: -1
> >> getLink(): undefined
> >> getPlatform(): Windows
> >> getLanguage(): German
> >>
> >>
> >> window.location.href    http://www.openoffice.org/**
> >> download/test/analyze.html<
> http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
> >> navigator.platform      Win32
> >> navigator.platform.**toLowerCase()        win32
> >> navigator.userAgent     Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 5.1; U; de)
> Presto/2.10.229
> >> Version/11.62
> >> navigator.userAgent.**toLowerCase()       opera/9.80 (windows nt 5.1; u;
> >> de) presto/2.10.229 version/11.62
> >> navigator.language      de
> >> navigator.userLanguage  de
> >> navigator.systemLanguage        undefined
> >> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
> >>
> >>
> >OK -- well this is NOT good, but what kind of results do you get with
> Opera
> >for:
> >
> >http://www.openoffice.org/download/legacy/
> >
> >same thing or ????
> >
> >Despite the fact that Opera is supposed to be the most W3 compliant
> >browser, I know folks have had issues with it...
> >
> >
> >with Windows Internet Explorer 8
> >> ==============================**==
> >> Calling http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**
> >> index_new_dl.html<
> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
> >>
> >> All looks OK.
> >>
> >> Calling http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze.html<
> http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
> >> results in
> >>
> >> navigator.platform: Win32
> >> navigator.UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1;
> >> Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR
> 3.0.4506.2152;
> >> .NET CLR 3.5.30729; InfoPath.2; BRI/2; .NET4.0C; .NET4.0E;
> >> OfficeLiveConnector.1.5; OfficeLivePatch.1.3; Microsoft.com Optimized
> IE8)
> >> navigator.UserAgent lower case: mozilla/4.0 (compatible; msie 7.0;
> windows
> >> nt 5.1; trident/4.0; .net clr 2.0.50727; .net clr 1.1.4322; .net clr
> >> 3.0.4506.2152; .net clr 3.5.30729; infopath.2; bri/2; .net4.0c;
> .net4.0e;
> >> officeliveconnector.1.5; officelivepatch.1.3; microsoft.com optimized
> ie8)
> >> navigator.UserAgent lower case: -1
> >> getLink(): undefined
> >> getPlatform(): Windows
> >> getLanguage(): German
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> window.location.href  http://www.openoffice.org/**
> >> download/test/analyze.html<
> http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
> >> navigator.platform  Win32
> >> navigator.platform.**toLowerCase()  win32
> >> navigator.userAgent  Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1;
> >> Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR
> 3.0.4506.2152;
> >> .NET CLR 3.5.30729; InfoPath.2; BRI/2; .NET4.0C; .NET4.0E;
> >> OfficeLiveConnector.1.5; OfficeLivePatch.1.3; Microsoft.com Optimized
> IE8)
> >> navigator.userAgent.**toLowerCase() mozilla/4.0 (compatible; msie 7.0;
> >> windows nt 5.1; trident/4.0; .net clr 2.0.50727; .net clr 1.1.4322; .net
> >> clr 3.0.4506.2152; .net clr 3.5.30729; infopath.2; bri/2; .net4.0c;
> >> .net4.0e; officeliveconnector.1.5; officelivepatch.1.3;
> microsoft.comoptimized ie8)
> >>
> >> navigator.language  undefined
> >> navigator.userLanguage  de
> >> navigator.systemLanguage de
> >> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
> >>
> >> with Seamonkey 2.9
> >> ==================
> >>
> >> All looks OK.
> >> Calling http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze.html<
> http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
> >> results in
> >>
> >> navigator.platform: Win32
> >> navigator.UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:12.0)
> Gecko/20120422
> >> Firefox/12.0 SeaMonkey/2.9
> >> navigator.UserAgent lower case: mozilla/5.0 (windows nt 5.1; rv:12.0)
> >> gecko/20120422 firefox/12.0 seamonkey/2.9
> >> navigator.UserAgent lower case: -1
> >> getLink(): undefined
> >> getPlatform(): Windows
> >> getLanguage(): German
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> window.location.href    http://www.openoffice.org/**
> >> download/test/analyze.html<
> http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
> >> navigator.platform      Win32
> >> navigator.platform.**toLowerCase()        win32
> >> navigator.userAgent     Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:12.0)
> >> Gecko/20120422 Firefox/12.0 SeaMonkey/2.9
> >> navigator.userAgent.**toLowerCase()       mozilla/5.0 (windows nt 5.1;
> >> rv:12.0) gecko/20120422 firefox/12.0 seamonkey/2.9
> >>
> >> navigator.language      de-DE
> >> navigator.userLanguage  undefined
> >> navigator.systemLanguage        undefined
> >> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
> >>
> >>
> >OK, thanks again. I did discover and correct a rather odd bug that was
> >affecting my simulated UA testing. Hopefully I can finish up with this
> >tomorrow if nothing else comes up.
> >
> >
> >
> >--
>
> >----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >MzK
> >
> >"Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
> >And life has a funny way of helping you out
> >Helping you out."
> >                            -- "Ironic", Alanis Morissette
> >
> >
> >
>



-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MzK

"Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
 And life has a funny way of helping you out
 Helping you out."
                            -- "Ironic", Alanis Morissette

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net>.
Hi Joe,

I now understand what needs to be done to use the aoo-closer.cgi as a webpage of our own design.

For example:

(1) Create create trunk/cgi-bin/aoo-download.cgi in the project or ooo-site using the aoo-mirrors.list. Use the MIRRORS_LIST env.

(2) Create downloads/aoo.mdtext file by cribbing http://www.apache.org/dyn/closer.mdtext. Use the SCRIPT_FILENAME env to set the path to this page in the content tree.

aoo-download.cgi should look like this:
 #!/bin/sh
export MIRRORS_LIST=<as seen on a private email>
export SCRIPT_FILENAME=/openofficeorg/downloads.html
exec /www/www.apache.org/dyn/mirrors/mirrors.cgi

Is this correct? I'd get on the IRC, but I'm afraid I have more of a learning curve with that than I thought.

Regards,
Dave

On Apr 30, 2012, at 8:30 PM, Joe Schaefer wrote:

> Kay- I've setup a new script for you to use for
> Openoffice downloads from Apache mirrors- simply
> replace "closer.cgi" with "aoo-closer.cgi" in your
> paths.  Please don't forget this or users could
> be directed to mirrors which have opted out of
> carrying AOO releases.
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> ________________________________
>> From: Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>
>> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org 
>> Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 7:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction
>> 
>> Regina--
>> 
>> Thanks for all this work. Please see comments inline below...
>> 
>> On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Regina Henschel <rb...@t-online.de>wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> my test results are below, all on German WinXP Home, SP3.
>>> 
>>> kind regards
>>> Regina
>>> 
>>> Marcus (OOo) schrieb:
>>> 
>>>   Am 04/30/2012 11:21 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 04/30/2012 11:37 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Am 04/30/2012 04:53 AM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Kay Schenk<ka...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On 04/27/2012 01:46 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>   On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Andrea Pescetti<pescetti@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>   Kay Schenk wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Please take a look at and give feedback on a test page for the new
>>>>>>>>>>> /download/index.html page at:
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/****download/test/index_new_dl.****html<http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/index_new_dl.**html>
>>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.openoffice.**org/download/test/index_new_**dl.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, it's a bit strange with lots of nonsense at the top that I
>>>>>>>>>>> wanted
>>>>>>>>>>> you to see, but will of course go away in production.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> The page is nice, but it's the concept that leaves me dubious.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> We have another thread
>>>>>>>>>> http://comments.gmane.org/****gmane.comp.apache.incubator.**<http://comments.gmane.org/**gmane.comp.apache.incubator.**>
>>>>>>>>>> ooo.devel/16219<http://**comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.**
>>>>>>>>>> apache.incubator.ooo.devel/**16219<http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.incubator.ooo.devel/16219>
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> where there seems to be consensus towards a solution that:
>>>>>>>>>> 1) Uses SF (and possibly Apache) for the web-based downloads
>>>>>>>>>> 2) Does not phase out MirrorBrain, and uses it for the updates
>>>>>>>>>> (i.e.,
>>>>>>>>>> downloads initiated by OpenOffice with the "Look for updates"
>>>>>>>>>> function)
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>   That's what I understand as well.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> oh -- OK. I thought we were going to use MirrorBrain for 3.3 DLs as
>>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>>> -- i.e. what Marcus will be working on. I know right now, we're using
>>>>>>>> SourceForge for that though.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>   The "possibly Apache" in 1) is due to the fact that I haven't
>>>>>>>>> understood
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> yet
>>>>>>>>>> what technology Apache will be using and if Apache will distribute
>>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>>> sources or binaries too (it's obvious that we as a project will
>>>>>>>>>> release
>>>>>>>>>> sources and binaries, but I'm not 100% sure that Apache wants to put
>>>>>>>>>> binaries on its mirrors too: I think so).
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>   Well it's not all that complicated actually. Take a look at the
>>>>>>>> security
>>>>>>>> patch info page...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/****security/cves/CVE-2012-0037.****html<http://www.openoffice.org/**security/cves/CVE-2012-0037.**html>
>>>>>>>> <http://www.openoffice.**org/security/cves/CVE-2012-**0037.html<http://www.openoffice.org/security/cves/CVE-2012-0037.html>
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> and you can see what the link looks like.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Actual source/binaries are, for us, put in:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/dist/****incubator/ooo/<http://www.apache.org/dist/**incubator/ooo/>
>>>>>>>> <http://www.**apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/<http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/>
>>>>>>>> **>
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> This said, you could be right in having issues tracking down problems.
>>>>>>>> Right now, the SF setup is more "user friendly" in my opinion. I
>>>>>>>> thought we
>>>>>>>> were *required* to use Apache for downloads, but maybe we've gotten a
>>>>>>>> dispensation for this release. Though I didn't think is was 100%
>>>>>>>> someplace
>>>>>>>> else. I admit I haven't kept up as much as I should have though.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> The other issue is how will it LOOK to users -- one moment they may
>>>>>>>> be one
>>>>>>>> place; if they happen to do a shift-reload, they may go someplace
>>>>>>>> else with
>>>>>>>> an entirely different look and feel.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>   Fact is, we should avoid the random selection as much as possible,
>>>>>>>>>> mainly to
>>>>>>>>>> be able to quickly identify problems, and you will see details in
>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> thread. The cleaner separation we can get, the better.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>   So how about something very simple:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 1) AOO 3.4 downloads use SourceForge by default from the
>>>>>>>>> /download/index.html page. Just like they are doing today.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> This WOULD make things a lot simpler.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>   But we also have a links there that point to Apache mirrors for:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> a) Hashes and detached signatures
>>>>>>>>> b) source distribution
>>>>>>>>> c) a link to the full release tree
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Well, SF will need to implement in their sidebar or the main page for
>>>>>>>> openoffice.org they have, right?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Anyway, good conversation.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>   In other words, no rolling the dice, noting fancy. 100% of normal
>>>>>>>>> users will download from SF.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 2) When we enable the automated updates, in a week or two, then we
>>>>>>>>> decide what we want to do. Maybe we do it via SF. Maybe MirrorBrain.
>>>>>>>>> Maybe a mix,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On the other side, release time is approaching and I can only hope
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> talks between Peter Poeml (MirrorBrain author) and Apache Infra,
>>>>>>>>>> that had
>>>>>>>>>> started on this list, are progressing now.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>   I think it is too late for any of those talks to influence how we
>>>>>>>>> deal
>>>>>>>>> with AOO 3.4 initial downloads. But maybe the update downloads in a
>>>>>>>>> couple of weeks.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> -Rob
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Andrea.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>   --
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------****----------------------------**--**
>>>>>>>> ------------
>>>>>>>> MzK
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> "Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
>>>>>>>> And life has a funny way of helping you out
>>>>>>>> Helping you out."
>>>>>>>> -- "Ironic", Alanis Morissette
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Ok, I am hoping this will be about the last, final review on the new
>>>>>>> download/index.html --
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> prototype at:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This assumes SourceForge ONLY, and that the 3.4 pre-built client packs
>>>>>>> will be in the hiearchy as the 3.3 is -- stable, etc.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Naturally NONE of the links will work until something gets out there
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> there is a TON of alerts which I will of course eventually comment out.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've tested the following:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 1.
>>>>>> Linux with Firefox --> Linux x86-64 RPM de --> the text in the pop-ups
>>>>>> makes sense --> OK
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 2.
>>>>>> Windows XP with MSIE --> error --> the detailed error message says:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Line: 104
>>>>>> Char: 1
>>>>>> Error: Identifier, string or number expected
>>>>>> Code: 0
>>>>>> URL: http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**
>>>>>> index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Line: 286
>>>>>> Char: 2
>>>>>> Error: 'languages' is not defined
>>>>>> Code: 0
>>>>>> URL: http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**
>>>>>> index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --> finally only a blue box for the extensions
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>> hmmm...well I shouldn't have changed anything that caused this, but
>>>>> definitely NOT good. OK, thanks. What are you showing for your
>>>>> "language" -- i.e. according to your UA string?
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Good that you've asked. I remember that we have this webpage:
>>>> 
>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>>>> 
>>>> So, I've updated it a bit and nowI get the following browser data:
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> window.location.href http://ooo-site.apache.org/**
>>>> download/test/analyze.html<http://ooo-site.apache.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>>>> navigator.platform Linux x86_64
>>>> navigator.platform.**toLowerCase() linux x86_64
>>>> navigator.userAgent Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:2.0.1)
>>>> Gecko/20100101 Firefox/4.0.1
>>>> navigator.userAgent.**toLowerCase() mozilla/5.0 (x11; linux x86_64;
>>>> rv:2.0.1) gecko/20100101 firefox/4.0.1
>>>> navigator.language de-DE
>>>> navigator.userLanguage undefined
>>>> navigator.systemLanguage undefined
>>>> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> window.location.href http://www.openoffice.org/**
>>>> download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>>>> navigator.platform Win32
>>>> navigator.platform.**toLowerCase() win32
>>>> navigator.userAgent Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1;
>>>> SV1)
>>>> navigator.userAgent.**toLowerCase() mozilla/4.0 (compatible; msie 6.0;
>>>> windows nt 5.1; sv1)
>>>> navigator.language undefined
>>>> navigator.userLanguage de
>>>> navigator.systemLanguage de
>>>> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> It seems that on Linux the "navigator.language" is set. On Windows this
>>>> is not set but the "navigator.userLanguage" and
>>>> "navigator.systemLanguage". All 3 are handled in "download.js" (or in
>>>> your new "download_new_dl.js").
>>>> 
>>>> Maybe it's helpful to output some debug messages around this area?
>>>> 
>>>> @All:
>>>> Can others please test on Windows with MSIE and Firefox? I really hope
>>>> it's just my Windows XP (in a Virtualbox VM).
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>> 
>>> With Opera 11.62
>>> =============================
>>> 
>>> Calling http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**
>>> index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>> 
>>> The green download box is missing totally.
>>> 
>>> Calling http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>>> results in
>>> 
>>> navigator.platform: Win32
>>> navigator.UserAgent: Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 5.1; U; de) Presto/2.10.229
>>> Version/11.62
>>> navigator.UserAgent lower case: opera/9.80 (windows nt 5.1; u; de)
>>> presto/2.10.229 version/11.62
>>> navigator.UserAgent lower case: -1
>>> getLink(): undefined
>>> getPlatform(): Windows
>>> getLanguage(): German
>>> 
>>> 
>>> window.location.href    http://www.openoffice.org/**
>>> download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>>> navigator.platform      Win32
>>> navigator.platform.**toLowerCase()        win32
>>> navigator.userAgent     Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 5.1; U; de) Presto/2.10.229
>>> Version/11.62
>>> navigator.userAgent.**toLowerCase()       opera/9.80 (windows nt 5.1; u;
>>> de) presto/2.10.229 version/11.62
>>> navigator.language      de
>>> navigator.userLanguage  de
>>> navigator.systemLanguage        undefined
>>> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
>>> 
>>> 
>> OK -- well this is NOT good, but what kind of results do you get with Opera
>> for:
>> 
>> http://www.openoffice.org/download/legacy/
>> 
>> same thing or ????
>> 
>> Despite the fact that Opera is supposed to be the most W3 compliant
>> browser, I know folks have had issues with it...
>> 
>> 
>> with Windows Internet Explorer 8
>>> ==============================**==
>>> Calling http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**
>>> index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>> 
>>> All looks OK.
>>> 
>>> Calling http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>>> results in
>>> 
>>> navigator.platform: Win32
>>> navigator.UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1;
>>> Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152;
>>> .NET CLR 3.5.30729; InfoPath.2; BRI/2; .NET4.0C; .NET4.0E;
>>> OfficeLiveConnector.1.5; OfficeLivePatch.1.3; Microsoft.com Optimized IE8)
>>> navigator.UserAgent lower case: mozilla/4.0 (compatible; msie 7.0; windows
>>> nt 5.1; trident/4.0; .net clr 2.0.50727; .net clr 1.1.4322; .net clr
>>> 3.0.4506.2152; .net clr 3.5.30729; infopath.2; bri/2; .net4.0c; .net4.0e;
>>> officeliveconnector.1.5; officelivepatch.1.3; microsoft.com optimized ie8)
>>> navigator.UserAgent lower case: -1
>>> getLink(): undefined
>>> getPlatform(): Windows
>>> getLanguage(): German
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> window.location.href  http://www.openoffice.org/**
>>> download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>>> navigator.platform  Win32
>>> navigator.platform.**toLowerCase()  win32
>>> navigator.userAgent  Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1;
>>> Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152;
>>> .NET CLR 3.5.30729; InfoPath.2; BRI/2; .NET4.0C; .NET4.0E;
>>> OfficeLiveConnector.1.5; OfficeLivePatch.1.3; Microsoft.com Optimized IE8)
>>> navigator.userAgent.**toLowerCase() mozilla/4.0 (compatible; msie 7.0;
>>> windows nt 5.1; trident/4.0; .net clr 2.0.50727; .net clr 1.1.4322; .net
>>> clr 3.0.4506.2152; .net clr 3.5.30729; infopath.2; bri/2; .net4.0c;
>>> .net4.0e; officeliveconnector.1.5; officelivepatch.1.3; microsoft.comoptimized ie8)
>>> 
>>> navigator.language  undefined
>>> navigator.userLanguage  de
>>> navigator.systemLanguage de
>>> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
>>> 
>>> with Seamonkey 2.9
>>> ==================
>>> 
>>> All looks OK.
>>> Calling http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>>> results in
>>> 
>>> navigator.platform: Win32
>>> navigator.UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120422
>>> Firefox/12.0 SeaMonkey/2.9
>>> navigator.UserAgent lower case: mozilla/5.0 (windows nt 5.1; rv:12.0)
>>> gecko/20120422 firefox/12.0 seamonkey/2.9
>>> navigator.UserAgent lower case: -1
>>> getLink(): undefined
>>> getPlatform(): Windows
>>> getLanguage(): German
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> window.location.href    http://www.openoffice.org/**
>>> download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>>> navigator.platform      Win32
>>> navigator.platform.**toLowerCase()        win32
>>> navigator.userAgent     Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:12.0)
>>> Gecko/20120422 Firefox/12.0 SeaMonkey/2.9
>>> navigator.userAgent.**toLowerCase()       mozilla/5.0 (windows nt 5.1;
>>> rv:12.0) gecko/20120422 firefox/12.0 seamonkey/2.9
>>> 
>>> navigator.language      de-DE
>>> navigator.userLanguage  undefined
>>> navigator.systemLanguage        undefined
>>> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
>>> 
>>> 
>> OK, thanks again. I did discover and correct a rather odd bug that was
>> affecting my simulated UA testing. Hopefully I can finish up with this
>> tomorrow if nothing else comes up.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -- 
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> MzK
>> 
>> "Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
>> And life has a funny way of helping you out
>> Helping you out."
>>                             -- "Ironic", Alanis Morissette
>> 
>> 


Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by Joe Schaefer <jo...@yahoo.com>.
Kay- I've setup a new script for you to use for
Openoffice downloads from Apache mirrors- simply
replace "closer.cgi" with "aoo-closer.cgi" in your
paths.  Please don't forget this or users could
be directed to mirrors which have opted out of
carrying AOO releases.




>________________________________
> From: Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>
>To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org 
>Sent: Monday, April 30, 2012 7:43 PM
>Subject: Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction
> 
>Regina--
>
>Thanks for all this work. Please see comments inline below...
>
>On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Regina Henschel <rb...@t-online.de>wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> my test results are below, all on German WinXP Home, SP3.
>>
>> kind regards
>> Regina
>>
>> Marcus (OOo) schrieb:
>>
>>  Am 04/30/2012 11:21 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 04/30/2012 11:37 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Am 04/30/2012 04:53 AM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Kay Schenk<ka...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 04/27/2012 01:46 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Andrea Pescetti<pescetti@apache.org
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Kay Schenk wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Please take a look at and give feedback on a test page for the new
>>>>>>>>>> /download/index.html page at:
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/****download/test/index_new_dl.****html<http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/index_new_dl.**html>
>>>>>>>>>> <http://www.openoffice.**org/download/test/index_new_**dl.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, it's a bit strange with lots of nonsense at the top that I
>>>>>>>>>> wanted
>>>>>>>>>> you to see, but will of course go away in production.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The page is nice, but it's the concept that leaves me dubious.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We have another thread
>>>>>>>>> http://comments.gmane.org/****gmane.comp.apache.incubator.**<http://comments.gmane.org/**gmane.comp.apache.incubator.**>
>>>>>>>>> ooo.devel/16219<http://**comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.**
>>>>>>>>> apache.incubator.ooo.devel/**16219<http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.incubator.ooo.devel/16219>
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> where there seems to be consensus towards a solution that:
>>>>>>>>> 1) Uses SF (and possibly Apache) for the web-based downloads
>>>>>>>>> 2) Does not phase out MirrorBrain, and uses it for the updates
>>>>>>>>> (i.e.,
>>>>>>>>> downloads initiated by OpenOffice with the "Look for updates"
>>>>>>>>> function)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  That's what I understand as well.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> oh -- OK. I thought we were going to use MirrorBrain for 3.3 DLs as
>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>> -- i.e. what Marcus will be working on. I know right now, we're using
>>>>>>> SourceForge for that though.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  The "possibly Apache" in 1) is due to the fact that I haven't
>>>>>>>> understood
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> yet
>>>>>>>>> what technology Apache will be using and if Apache will distribute
>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>> sources or binaries too (it's obvious that we as a project will
>>>>>>>>> release
>>>>>>>>> sources and binaries, but I'm not 100% sure that Apache wants to put
>>>>>>>>> binaries on its mirrors too: I think so).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Well it's not all that complicated actually. Take a look at the
>>>>>>> security
>>>>>>> patch info page...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/****security/cves/CVE-2012-0037.****html<http://www.openoffice.org/**security/cves/CVE-2012-0037.**html>
>>>>>>> <http://www.openoffice.**org/security/cves/CVE-2012-**0037.html<http://www.openoffice.org/security/cves/CVE-2012-0037.html>
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and you can see what the link looks like.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Actual source/binaries are, for us, put in:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/dist/****incubator/ooo/<http://www.apache.org/dist/**incubator/ooo/>
>>>>>>> <http://www.**apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/<http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/>
>>>>>>> **>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This said, you could be right in having issues tracking down problems.
>>>>>>> Right now, the SF setup is more "user friendly" in my opinion. I
>>>>>>> thought we
>>>>>>> were *required* to use Apache for downloads, but maybe we've gotten a
>>>>>>> dispensation for this release. Though I didn't think is was 100%
>>>>>>> someplace
>>>>>>> else. I admit I haven't kept up as much as I should have though.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The other issue is how will it LOOK to users -- one moment they may
>>>>>>> be one
>>>>>>> place; if they happen to do a shift-reload, they may go someplace
>>>>>>> else with
>>>>>>> an entirely different look and feel.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Fact is, we should avoid the random selection as much as possible,
>>>>>>>>> mainly to
>>>>>>>>> be able to quickly identify problems, and you will see details in
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> thread. The cleaner separation we can get, the better.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  So how about something very simple:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 1) AOO 3.4 downloads use SourceForge by default from the
>>>>>>>> /download/index.html page. Just like they are doing today.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This WOULD make things a lot simpler.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  But we also have a links there that point to Apache mirrors for:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> a) Hashes and detached signatures
>>>>>>>> b) source distribution
>>>>>>>> c) a link to the full release tree
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Well, SF will need to implement in their sidebar or the main page for
>>>>>>> openoffice.org they have, right?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anyway, good conversation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  In other words, no rolling the dice, noting fancy. 100% of normal
>>>>>>>> users will download from SF.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2) When we enable the automated updates, in a week or two, then we
>>>>>>>> decide what we want to do. Maybe we do it via SF. Maybe MirrorBrain.
>>>>>>>> Maybe a mix,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On the other side, release time is approaching and I can only hope
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> talks between Peter Poeml (MirrorBrain author) and Apache Infra,
>>>>>>>>> that had
>>>>>>>>> started on this list, are progressing now.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  I think it is too late for any of those talks to influence how we
>>>>>>>> deal
>>>>>>>> with AOO 3.4 initial downloads. But maybe the update downloads in a
>>>>>>>> couple of weeks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -Rob
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Andrea.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  --
>>>>>>> ------------------------------****----------------------------**--**
>>>>>>> ------------
>>>>>>> MzK
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
>>>>>>> And life has a funny way of helping you out
>>>>>>> Helping you out."
>>>>>>> -- "Ironic", Alanis Morissette
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok, I am hoping this will be about the last, final review on the new
>>>>>> download/index.html --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> prototype at:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This assumes SourceForge ONLY, and that the 3.4 pre-built client packs
>>>>>> will be in the hiearchy as the 3.3 is -- stable, etc.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Naturally NONE of the links will work until something gets out there
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> there is a TON of alerts which I will of course eventually comment out.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I've tested the following:
>>>>>
>>>>> 1.
>>>>> Linux with Firefox --> Linux x86-64 RPM de --> the text in the pop-ups
>>>>> makes sense --> OK
>>>>>
>>>>> 2.
>>>>> Windows XP with MSIE --> error --> the detailed error message says:
>>>>>
>>>>> Line: 104
>>>>> Char: 1
>>>>> Error: Identifier, string or number expected
>>>>> Code: 0
>>>>> URL: http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**
>>>>> index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>
>>>>> Line: 286
>>>>> Char: 2
>>>>> Error: 'languages' is not defined
>>>>> Code: 0
>>>>> URL: http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**
>>>>> index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>
>>>>> --> finally only a blue box for the extensions
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> hmmm...well I shouldn't have changed anything that caused this, but
>>>> definitely NOT good. OK, thanks. What are you showing for your
>>>> "language" -- i.e. according to your UA string?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Good that you've asked. I remember that we have this webpage:
>>>
>>> http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>>>
>>> So, I've updated it a bit and nowI get the following browser data:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> window.location.href http://ooo-site.apache.org/**
>>> download/test/analyze.html<http://ooo-site.apache.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>>> navigator.platform Linux x86_64
>>> navigator.platform.**toLowerCase() linux x86_64
>>> navigator.userAgent Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:2.0.1)
>>> Gecko/20100101 Firefox/4.0.1
>>> navigator.userAgent.**toLowerCase() mozilla/5.0 (x11; linux x86_64;
>>> rv:2.0.1) gecko/20100101 firefox/4.0.1
>>> navigator.language de-DE
>>> navigator.userLanguage undefined
>>> navigator.systemLanguage undefined
>>> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> window.location.href http://www.openoffice.org/**
>>> download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>>> navigator.platform Win32
>>> navigator.platform.**toLowerCase() win32
>>> navigator.userAgent Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1;
>>> SV1)
>>> navigator.userAgent.**toLowerCase() mozilla/4.0 (compatible; msie 6.0;
>>> windows nt 5.1; sv1)
>>> navigator.language undefined
>>> navigator.userLanguage de
>>> navigator.systemLanguage de
>>> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
>>>
>>>
>>> It seems that on Linux the "navigator.language" is set. On Windows this
>>> is not set but the "navigator.userLanguage" and
>>> "navigator.systemLanguage". All 3 are handled in "download.js" (or in
>>> your new "download_new_dl.js").
>>>
>>> Maybe it's helpful to output some debug messages around this area?
>>>
>>> @All:
>>> Can others please test on Windows with MSIE and Firefox? I really hope
>>> it's just my Windows XP (in a Virtualbox VM).
>>>
>>
>>
>
>> With Opera 11.62
>> =============================
>>
>> Calling http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**
>> index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>
>> The green download box is missing totally.
>>
>> Calling http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>> results in
>>
>> navigator.platform: Win32
>> navigator.UserAgent: Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 5.1; U; de) Presto/2.10.229
>> Version/11.62
>> navigator.UserAgent lower case: opera/9.80 (windows nt 5.1; u; de)
>> presto/2.10.229 version/11.62
>> navigator.UserAgent lower case: -1
>> getLink(): undefined
>> getPlatform(): Windows
>> getLanguage(): German
>>
>>
>> window.location.href    http://www.openoffice.org/**
>> download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>> navigator.platform      Win32
>> navigator.platform.**toLowerCase()        win32
>> navigator.userAgent     Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 5.1; U; de) Presto/2.10.229
>> Version/11.62
>> navigator.userAgent.**toLowerCase()       opera/9.80 (windows nt 5.1; u;
>> de) presto/2.10.229 version/11.62
>> navigator.language      de
>> navigator.userLanguage  de
>> navigator.systemLanguage        undefined
>> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
>>
>>
>OK -- well this is NOT good, but what kind of results do you get with Opera
>for:
>
>http://www.openoffice.org/download/legacy/
>
>same thing or ????
>
>Despite the fact that Opera is supposed to be the most W3 compliant
>browser, I know folks have had issues with it...
>
>
>with Windows Internet Explorer 8
>> ==============================**==
>> Calling http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**
>> index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>
>> All looks OK.
>>
>> Calling http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>> results in
>>
>> navigator.platform: Win32
>> navigator.UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1;
>> Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152;
>> .NET CLR 3.5.30729; InfoPath.2; BRI/2; .NET4.0C; .NET4.0E;
>> OfficeLiveConnector.1.5; OfficeLivePatch.1.3; Microsoft.com Optimized IE8)
>> navigator.UserAgent lower case: mozilla/4.0 (compatible; msie 7.0; windows
>> nt 5.1; trident/4.0; .net clr 2.0.50727; .net clr 1.1.4322; .net clr
>> 3.0.4506.2152; .net clr 3.5.30729; infopath.2; bri/2; .net4.0c; .net4.0e;
>> officeliveconnector.1.5; officelivepatch.1.3; microsoft.com optimized ie8)
>> navigator.UserAgent lower case: -1
>> getLink(): undefined
>> getPlatform(): Windows
>> getLanguage(): German
>>
>>
>>
>> window.location.href  http://www.openoffice.org/**
>> download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>> navigator.platform  Win32
>> navigator.platform.**toLowerCase()  win32
>> navigator.userAgent  Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1;
>> Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152;
>> .NET CLR 3.5.30729; InfoPath.2; BRI/2; .NET4.0C; .NET4.0E;
>> OfficeLiveConnector.1.5; OfficeLivePatch.1.3; Microsoft.com Optimized IE8)
>> navigator.userAgent.**toLowerCase() mozilla/4.0 (compatible; msie 7.0;
>> windows nt 5.1; trident/4.0; .net clr 2.0.50727; .net clr 1.1.4322; .net
>> clr 3.0.4506.2152; .net clr 3.5.30729; infopath.2; bri/2; .net4.0c;
>> .net4.0e; officeliveconnector.1.5; officelivepatch.1.3; microsoft.comoptimized ie8)
>>
>> navigator.language  undefined
>> navigator.userLanguage  de
>> navigator.systemLanguage de
>> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
>>
>> with Seamonkey 2.9
>> ==================
>>
>> All looks OK.
>> Calling http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>> results in
>>
>> navigator.platform: Win32
>> navigator.UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120422
>> Firefox/12.0 SeaMonkey/2.9
>> navigator.UserAgent lower case: mozilla/5.0 (windows nt 5.1; rv:12.0)
>> gecko/20120422 firefox/12.0 seamonkey/2.9
>> navigator.UserAgent lower case: -1
>> getLink(): undefined
>> getPlatform(): Windows
>> getLanguage(): German
>>
>>
>>
>> window.location.href    http://www.openoffice.org/**
>> download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>> navigator.platform      Win32
>> navigator.platform.**toLowerCase()        win32
>> navigator.userAgent     Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:12.0)
>> Gecko/20120422 Firefox/12.0 SeaMonkey/2.9
>> navigator.userAgent.**toLowerCase()       mozilla/5.0 (windows nt 5.1;
>> rv:12.0) gecko/20120422 firefox/12.0 seamonkey/2.9
>>
>> navigator.language      de-DE
>> navigator.userLanguage  undefined
>> navigator.systemLanguage        undefined
>> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
>>
>>
>OK, thanks again. I did discover and correct a rather odd bug that was
>affecting my simulated UA testing. Hopefully I can finish up with this
>tomorrow if nothing else comes up.
>
>
>
>-- 
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>MzK
>
>"Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
>And life has a funny way of helping you out
>Helping you out."
>                            -- "Ironic", Alanis Morissette
>
>
>

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
Regina--

Thanks for all this work. Please see comments inline below...

On Mon, Apr 30, 2012 at 4:13 PM, Regina Henschel <rb...@t-online.de>wrote:

> Hi,
>
> my test results are below, all on German WinXP Home, SP3.
>
> kind regards
> Regina
>
> Marcus (OOo) schrieb:
>
>  Am 04/30/2012 11:21 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 04/30/2012 11:37 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>>
>>>> Am 04/30/2012 04:53 AM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Kay Schenk<ka...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 04/27/2012 01:46 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Andrea Pescetti<pescetti@apache.org
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Kay Schenk wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Please take a look at and give feedback on a test page for the new
>>>>>>>>> /download/index.html page at:
>>>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/****download/test/index_new_dl.****html<http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/index_new_dl.**html>
>>>>>>>>> <http://www.openoffice.**org/download/test/index_new_**dl.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Yes, it's a bit strange with lots of nonsense at the top that I
>>>>>>>>> wanted
>>>>>>>>> you to see, but will of course go away in production.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The page is nice, but it's the concept that leaves me dubious.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We have another thread
>>>>>>>> http://comments.gmane.org/****gmane.comp.apache.incubator.**<http://comments.gmane.org/**gmane.comp.apache.incubator.**>
>>>>>>>> ooo.devel/16219<http://**comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.**
>>>>>>>> apache.incubator.ooo.devel/**16219<http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.incubator.ooo.devel/16219>
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> where there seems to be consensus towards a solution that:
>>>>>>>> 1) Uses SF (and possibly Apache) for the web-based downloads
>>>>>>>> 2) Does not phase out MirrorBrain, and uses it for the updates
>>>>>>>> (i.e.,
>>>>>>>> downloads initiated by OpenOffice with the "Look for updates"
>>>>>>>> function)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  That's what I understand as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> oh -- OK. I thought we were going to use MirrorBrain for 3.3 DLs as
>>>>>> well
>>>>>> -- i.e. what Marcus will be working on. I know right now, we're using
>>>>>> SourceForge for that though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  The "possibly Apache" in 1) is due to the fact that I haven't
>>>>>>> understood
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> yet
>>>>>>>> what technology Apache will be using and if Apache will distribute
>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>> sources or binaries too (it's obvious that we as a project will
>>>>>>>> release
>>>>>>>> sources and binaries, but I'm not 100% sure that Apache wants to put
>>>>>>>> binaries on its mirrors too: I think so).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Well it's not all that complicated actually. Take a look at the
>>>>>> security
>>>>>> patch info page...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/****security/cves/CVE-2012-0037.****html<http://www.openoffice.org/**security/cves/CVE-2012-0037.**html>
>>>>>> <http://www.openoffice.**org/security/cves/CVE-2012-**0037.html<http://www.openoffice.org/security/cves/CVE-2012-0037.html>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and you can see what the link looks like.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Actual source/binaries are, for us, put in:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/dist/****incubator/ooo/<http://www.apache.org/dist/**incubator/ooo/>
>>>>>> <http://www.**apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/<http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/>
>>>>>> **>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This said, you could be right in having issues tracking down problems.
>>>>>> Right now, the SF setup is more "user friendly" in my opinion. I
>>>>>> thought we
>>>>>> were *required* to use Apache for downloads, but maybe we've gotten a
>>>>>> dispensation for this release. Though I didn't think is was 100%
>>>>>> someplace
>>>>>> else. I admit I haven't kept up as much as I should have though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The other issue is how will it LOOK to users -- one moment they may
>>>>>> be one
>>>>>> place; if they happen to do a shift-reload, they may go someplace
>>>>>> else with
>>>>>> an entirely different look and feel.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Fact is, we should avoid the random selection as much as possible,
>>>>>>>> mainly to
>>>>>>>> be able to quickly identify problems, and you will see details in
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> thread. The cleaner separation we can get, the better.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  So how about something very simple:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 1) AOO 3.4 downloads use SourceForge by default from the
>>>>>>> /download/index.html page. Just like they are doing today.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> This WOULD make things a lot simpler.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  But we also have a links there that point to Apache mirrors for:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> a) Hashes and detached signatures
>>>>>>> b) source distribution
>>>>>>> c) a link to the full release tree
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Well, SF will need to implement in their sidebar or the main page for
>>>>>> openoffice.org they have, right?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anyway, good conversation.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  In other words, no rolling the dice, noting fancy. 100% of normal
>>>>>>> users will download from SF.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2) When we enable the automated updates, in a week or two, then we
>>>>>>> decide what we want to do. Maybe we do it via SF. Maybe MirrorBrain.
>>>>>>> Maybe a mix,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On the other side, release time is approaching and I can only hope
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> talks between Peter Poeml (MirrorBrain author) and Apache Infra,
>>>>>>>> that had
>>>>>>>> started on this list, are progressing now.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  I think it is too late for any of those talks to influence how we
>>>>>>> deal
>>>>>>> with AOO 3.4 initial downloads. But maybe the update downloads in a
>>>>>>> couple of weeks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -Rob
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Andrea.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  --
>>>>>> ------------------------------****----------------------------**--**
>>>>>> ------------
>>>>>> MzK
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
>>>>>> And life has a funny way of helping you out
>>>>>> Helping you out."
>>>>>> -- "Ironic", Alanis Morissette
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Ok, I am hoping this will be about the last, final review on the new
>>>>> download/index.html --
>>>>>
>>>>> prototype at:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>
>>>>> This assumes SourceForge ONLY, and that the 3.4 pre-built client packs
>>>>> will be in the hiearchy as the 3.3 is -- stable, etc.
>>>>>
>>>>> Naturally NONE of the links will work until something gets out there
>>>>> and
>>>>> there is a TON of alerts which I will of course eventually comment out.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I've tested the following:
>>>>
>>>> 1.
>>>> Linux with Firefox --> Linux x86-64 RPM de --> the text in the pop-ups
>>>> makes sense --> OK
>>>>
>>>> 2.
>>>> Windows XP with MSIE --> error --> the detailed error message says:
>>>>
>>>> Line: 104
>>>> Char: 1
>>>> Error: Identifier, string or number expected
>>>> Code: 0
>>>> URL: http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**
>>>> index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>
>>>> Line: 286
>>>> Char: 2
>>>> Error: 'languages' is not defined
>>>> Code: 0
>>>> URL: http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**
>>>> index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>
>>>> --> finally only a blue box for the extensions
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> hmmm...well I shouldn't have changed anything that caused this, but
>>> definitely NOT good. OK, thanks. What are you showing for your
>>> "language" -- i.e. according to your UA string?
>>>
>>
>> Good that you've asked. I remember that we have this webpage:
>>
>> http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>>
>> So, I've updated it a bit and nowI get the following browser data:
>>
>>
>>
>> window.location.href http://ooo-site.apache.org/**
>> download/test/analyze.html<http://ooo-site.apache.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>> navigator.platform Linux x86_64
>> navigator.platform.**toLowerCase() linux x86_64
>> navigator.userAgent Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:2.0.1)
>> Gecko/20100101 Firefox/4.0.1
>> navigator.userAgent.**toLowerCase() mozilla/5.0 (x11; linux x86_64;
>> rv:2.0.1) gecko/20100101 firefox/4.0.1
>> navigator.language de-DE
>> navigator.userLanguage undefined
>> navigator.systemLanguage undefined
>> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
>>
>>
>>
>> window.location.href http://www.openoffice.org/**
>> download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>> navigator.platform Win32
>> navigator.platform.**toLowerCase() win32
>> navigator.userAgent Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1;
>> SV1)
>> navigator.userAgent.**toLowerCase() mozilla/4.0 (compatible; msie 6.0;
>> windows nt 5.1; sv1)
>> navigator.language undefined
>> navigator.userLanguage de
>> navigator.systemLanguage de
>> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
>>
>>
>> It seems that on Linux the "navigator.language" is set. On Windows this
>> is not set but the "navigator.userLanguage" and
>> "navigator.systemLanguage". All 3 are handled in "download.js" (or in
>> your new "download_new_dl.js").
>>
>> Maybe it's helpful to output some debug messages around this area?
>>
>> @All:
>> Can others please test on Windows with MSIE and Firefox? I really hope
>> it's just my Windows XP (in a Virtualbox VM).
>>
>
>

> With Opera 11.62
> =============================
>
> Calling http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**
> index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>
> The green download box is missing totally.
>
> Calling http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
> results in
>
> navigator.platform: Win32
> navigator.UserAgent: Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 5.1; U; de) Presto/2.10.229
> Version/11.62
> navigator.UserAgent lower case: opera/9.80 (windows nt 5.1; u; de)
> presto/2.10.229 version/11.62
> navigator.UserAgent lower case: -1
> getLink(): undefined
> getPlatform(): Windows
> getLanguage(): German
>
>
> window.location.href    http://www.openoffice.org/**
> download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
> navigator.platform      Win32
> navigator.platform.**toLowerCase()        win32
> navigator.userAgent     Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 5.1; U; de) Presto/2.10.229
> Version/11.62
> navigator.userAgent.**toLowerCase()       opera/9.80 (windows nt 5.1; u;
> de) presto/2.10.229 version/11.62
> navigator.language      de
> navigator.userLanguage  de
> navigator.systemLanguage        undefined
> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
>
>
OK -- well this is NOT good, but what kind of results do you get with Opera
for:

 http://www.openoffice.org/download/legacy/

same thing or ????

Despite the fact that Opera is supposed to be the most W3 compliant
browser, I know folks have had issues with it...


with Windows Internet Explorer 8
> ==============================**==
> Calling http://ooo-site.staging.**apache.org/download/test/**
> index_new_dl.html<http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>
> All looks OK.
>
> Calling http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
> results in
>
> navigator.platform: Win32
> navigator.UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1;
> Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152;
> .NET CLR 3.5.30729; InfoPath.2; BRI/2; .NET4.0C; .NET4.0E;
> OfficeLiveConnector.1.5; OfficeLivePatch.1.3; Microsoft.com Optimized IE8)
> navigator.UserAgent lower case: mozilla/4.0 (compatible; msie 7.0; windows
> nt 5.1; trident/4.0; .net clr 2.0.50727; .net clr 1.1.4322; .net clr
> 3.0.4506.2152; .net clr 3.5.30729; infopath.2; bri/2; .net4.0c; .net4.0e;
> officeliveconnector.1.5; officelivepatch.1.3; microsoft.com optimized ie8)
> navigator.UserAgent lower case: -1
> getLink(): undefined
> getPlatform(): Windows
> getLanguage(): German
>
>
>
> window.location.href  http://www.openoffice.org/**
> download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
> navigator.platform  Win32
> navigator.platform.**toLowerCase()  win32
> navigator.userAgent  Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1;
> Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 3.0.4506.2152;
> .NET CLR 3.5.30729; InfoPath.2; BRI/2; .NET4.0C; .NET4.0E;
> OfficeLiveConnector.1.5; OfficeLivePatch.1.3; Microsoft.com Optimized IE8)
> navigator.userAgent.**toLowerCase() mozilla/4.0 (compatible; msie 7.0;
> windows nt 5.1; trident/4.0; .net clr 2.0.50727; .net clr 1.1.4322; .net
> clr 3.0.4506.2152; .net clr 3.5.30729; infopath.2; bri/2; .net4.0c;
> .net4.0e; officeliveconnector.1.5; officelivepatch.1.3; microsoft.comoptimized ie8)
>
> navigator.language  undefined
> navigator.userLanguage  de
> navigator.systemLanguage de
> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
>
> with Seamonkey 2.9
> ==================
>
> All looks OK.
> Calling http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
> results in
>
> navigator.platform: Win32
> navigator.UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:12.0) Gecko/20120422
> Firefox/12.0 SeaMonkey/2.9
> navigator.UserAgent lower case: mozilla/5.0 (windows nt 5.1; rv:12.0)
> gecko/20120422 firefox/12.0 seamonkey/2.9
> navigator.UserAgent lower case: -1
> getLink(): undefined
> getPlatform(): Windows
> getLanguage(): German
>
>
>
> window.location.href    http://www.openoffice.org/**
> download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
> navigator.platform      Win32
> navigator.platform.**toLowerCase()        win32
> navigator.userAgent     Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:12.0)
> Gecko/20120422 Firefox/12.0 SeaMonkey/2.9
> navigator.userAgent.**toLowerCase()       mozilla/5.0 (windows nt 5.1;
> rv:12.0) gecko/20120422 firefox/12.0 seamonkey/2.9
>
> navigator.language      de-DE
> navigator.userLanguage  undefined
> navigator.systemLanguage        undefined
> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
>
>
OK, thanks again. I did discover and correct a rather odd bug that was
affecting my simulated UA testing. Hopefully I can finish up with this
tomorrow if nothing else comes up.



-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MzK

"Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
 And life has a funny way of helping you out
 Helping you out."
                            -- "Ironic", Alanis Morissette

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by Regina Henschel <rb...@t-online.de>.
Hi,

my test results are below, all on German WinXP Home, SP3.

kind regards
Regina

Marcus (OOo) schrieb:
> Am 04/30/2012 11:21 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
>>
>>
>> On 04/30/2012 11:37 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>>> Am 04/30/2012 04:53 AM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
>>>> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 3:22 PM, Kay Schenk<ka...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 04/27/2012 01:46 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Apr 27, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Andrea Pescetti<pe...@apache.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kay Schenk wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Please take a look at and give feedback on a test page for the new
>>>>>>>> /download/index.html page at:
>>>>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/index_new_dl.**html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Yes, it's a bit strange with lots of nonsense at the top that I
>>>>>>>> wanted
>>>>>>>> you to see, but will of course go away in production.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The page is nice, but it's the concept that leaves me dubious.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We have another thread
>>>>>>> http://comments.gmane.org/**gmane.comp.apache.incubator.**
>>>>>>> ooo.devel/16219<http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.apache.incubator.ooo.devel/16219>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> where there seems to be consensus towards a solution that:
>>>>>>> 1) Uses SF (and possibly Apache) for the web-based downloads
>>>>>>> 2) Does not phase out MirrorBrain, and uses it for the updates
>>>>>>> (i.e.,
>>>>>>> downloads initiated by OpenOffice with the "Look for updates"
>>>>>>> function)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> That's what I understand as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> oh -- OK. I thought we were going to use MirrorBrain for 3.3 DLs as
>>>>> well
>>>>> -- i.e. what Marcus will be working on. I know right now, we're using
>>>>> SourceForge for that though.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> The "possibly Apache" in 1) is due to the fact that I haven't
>>>>>> understood
>>>>>>> yet
>>>>>>> what technology Apache will be using and if Apache will distribute
>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>> sources or binaries too (it's obvious that we as a project will
>>>>>>> release
>>>>>>> sources and binaries, but I'm not 100% sure that Apache wants to put
>>>>>>> binaries on its mirrors too: I think so).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> Well it's not all that complicated actually. Take a look at the
>>>>> security
>>>>> patch info page...
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.openoffice.org/**security/cves/CVE-2012-0037.**html<http://www.openoffice.org/security/cves/CVE-2012-0037.html>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> and you can see what the link looks like.
>>>>>
>>>>> Actual source/binaries are, for us, put in:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.apache.org/dist/**incubator/ooo/<http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This said, you could be right in having issues tracking down problems.
>>>>> Right now, the SF setup is more "user friendly" in my opinion. I
>>>>> thought we
>>>>> were *required* to use Apache for downloads, but maybe we've gotten a
>>>>> dispensation for this release. Though I didn't think is was 100%
>>>>> someplace
>>>>> else. I admit I haven't kept up as much as I should have though.
>>>>>
>>>>> The other issue is how will it LOOK to users -- one moment they may
>>>>> be one
>>>>> place; if they happen to do a shift-reload, they may go someplace
>>>>> else with
>>>>> an entirely different look and feel.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>> Fact is, we should avoid the random selection as much as possible,
>>>>>>> mainly to
>>>>>>> be able to quickly identify problems, and you will see details in
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> thread. The cleaner separation we can get, the better.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> So how about something very simple:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 1) AOO 3.4 downloads use SourceForge by default from the
>>>>>> /download/index.html page. Just like they are doing today.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> This WOULD make things a lot simpler.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> But we also have a links there that point to Apache mirrors for:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> a) Hashes and detached signatures
>>>>>> b) source distribution
>>>>>> c) a link to the full release tree
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Well, SF will need to implement in their sidebar or the main page for
>>>>> openoffice.org they have, right?
>>>>>
>>>>> Anyway, good conversation.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> In other words, no rolling the dice, noting fancy. 100% of normal
>>>>>> users will download from SF.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2) When we enable the automated updates, in a week or two, then we
>>>>>> decide what we want to do. Maybe we do it via SF. Maybe MirrorBrain.
>>>>>> Maybe a mix,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On the other side, release time is approaching and I can only hope
>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> talks between Peter Poeml (MirrorBrain author) and Apache Infra,
>>>>>>> that had
>>>>>>> started on this list, are progressing now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think it is too late for any of those talks to influence how we
>>>>>> deal
>>>>>> with AOO 3.4 initial downloads. But maybe the update downloads in a
>>>>>> couple of weeks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -Rob
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Andrea.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> ------------------------------**------------------------------**
>>>>> ------------
>>>>> MzK
>>>>>
>>>>> "Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
>>>>> And life has a funny way of helping you out
>>>>> Helping you out."
>>>>> -- "Ironic", Alanis Morissette
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Ok, I am hoping this will be about the last, final review on the new
>>>> download/index.html --
>>>>
>>>> prototype at:
>>>>
>>>> http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html
>>>>
>>>> This assumes SourceForge ONLY, and that the 3.4 pre-built client packs
>>>> will be in the hiearchy as the 3.3 is -- stable, etc.
>>>>
>>>> Naturally NONE of the links will work until something gets out there
>>>> and
>>>> there is a TON of alerts which I will of course eventually comment out.
>>>
>>> I've tested the following:
>>>
>>> 1.
>>> Linux with Firefox --> Linux x86-64 RPM de --> the text in the pop-ups
>>> makes sense --> OK
>>>
>>> 2.
>>> Windows XP with MSIE --> error --> the detailed error message says:
>>>
>>> Line: 104
>>> Char: 1
>>> Error: Identifier, string or number expected
>>> Code: 0
>>> URL: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html
>>>
>>> Line: 286
>>> Char: 2
>>> Error: 'languages' is not defined
>>> Code: 0
>>> URL: http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html
>>>
>>> --> finally only a blue box for the extensions
>>>
>>>
>>
>> hmmm...well I shouldn't have changed anything that caused this, but
>> definitely NOT good. OK, thanks. What are you showing for your
>> "language" -- i.e. according to your UA string?
>
> Good that you've asked. I remember that we have this webpage:
>
> http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html
>
> So, I've updated it a bit and nowI get the following browser data:
>
>
>
> window.location.href http://ooo-site.apache.org/download/test/analyze.html
> navigator.platform Linux x86_64
> navigator.platform.toLowerCase() linux x86_64
> navigator.userAgent Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:2.0.1)
> Gecko/20100101 Firefox/4.0.1
> navigator.userAgent.toLowerCase() mozilla/5.0 (x11; linux x86_64;
> rv:2.0.1) gecko/20100101 firefox/4.0.1
> navigator.language de-DE
> navigator.userLanguage undefined
> navigator.systemLanguage undefined
> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
>
>
>
> window.location.href http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html
> navigator.platform Win32
> navigator.platform.toLowerCase() win32
> navigator.userAgent Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)
> navigator.userAgent.toLowerCase() mozilla/4.0 (compatible; msie 6.0;
> windows nt 5.1; sv1)
> navigator.language undefined
> navigator.userLanguage de
> navigator.systemLanguage de
> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
>
>
> It seems that on Linux the "navigator.language" is set. On Windows this
> is not set but the "navigator.userLanguage" and
> "navigator.systemLanguage". All 3 are handled in "download.js" (or in
> your new "download_new_dl.js").
>
> Maybe it's helpful to output some debug messages around this area?
>
> @All:
> Can others please test on Windows with MSIE and Firefox? I really hope
> it's just my Windows XP (in a Virtualbox VM).

With Opera 11.62
=============================

Calling http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html

The green download box is missing totally.

Calling http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html
results in

navigator.platform: Win32
navigator.UserAgent: Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 5.1; U; de) Presto/2.10.229 
Version/11.62
navigator.UserAgent lower case: opera/9.80 (windows nt 5.1; u; de) 
presto/2.10.229 version/11.62
navigator.UserAgent lower case: -1
getLink(): undefined
getPlatform(): Windows
getLanguage(): German

window.location.href 	http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html
navigator.platform 	Win32
navigator.platform.toLowerCase() 	win32
navigator.userAgent 	Opera/9.80 (Windows NT 5.1; U; de) Presto/2.10.229 
Version/11.62
navigator.userAgent.toLowerCase()	opera/9.80 (windows nt 5.1; u; de) 
presto/2.10.229 version/11.62
navigator.language 	de
navigator.userLanguage 	de
navigator.systemLanguage	undefined
navigator.javaEnabled()	Yes

with Windows Internet Explorer 8
================================
Calling http://ooo-site.staging.apache.org/download/test/index_new_dl.html

All looks OK.

Calling http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html
results in

navigator.platform: Win32
navigator.UserAgent: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; 
Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 
3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; InfoPath.2; BRI/2; .NET4.0C; 
.NET4.0E; OfficeLiveConnector.1.5; OfficeLivePatch.1.3; Microsoft.com 
Optimized IE8)
navigator.UserAgent lower case: mozilla/4.0 (compatible; msie 7.0; 
windows nt 5.1; trident/4.0; .net clr 2.0.50727; .net clr 1.1.4322; .net 
clr 3.0.4506.2152; .net clr 3.5.30729; infopath.2; bri/2; .net4.0c; 
.net4.0e; officeliveconnector.1.5; officelivepatch.1.3; microsoft.com 
optimized ie8)
navigator.UserAgent lower case: -1
getLink(): undefined
getPlatform(): Windows
getLanguage(): German


window.location.href  http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html
navigator.platform  Win32
navigator.platform.toLowerCase()  win32
navigator.userAgent  Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 7.0; Windows NT 5.1; 
Trident/4.0; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 1.1.4322; .NET CLR 
3.0.4506.2152; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; InfoPath.2; BRI/2; .NET4.0C; 
.NET4.0E; OfficeLiveConnector.1.5; OfficeLivePatch.1.3; Microsoft.com 
Optimized IE8)
navigator.userAgent.toLowerCase() mozilla/4.0 (compatible; msie 7.0; 
windows nt 5.1; trident/4.0; .net clr 2.0.50727; .net clr 1.1.4322; .net 
clr 3.0.4506.2152; .net clr 3.5.30729; infopath.2; bri/2; .net4.0c; 
.net4.0e; officeliveconnector.1.5; officelivepatch.1.3; microsoft.com 
optimized ie8)
navigator.language  undefined
navigator.userLanguage  de
navigator.systemLanguage de
navigator.javaEnabled() Yes

with Seamonkey 2.9
==================

All looks OK.
Calling http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html
results in

navigator.platform: Win32
navigator.UserAgent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:12.0) 
Gecko/20120422 Firefox/12.0 SeaMonkey/2.9
navigator.UserAgent lower case: mozilla/5.0 (windows nt 5.1; rv:12.0) 
gecko/20120422 firefox/12.0 seamonkey/2.9
navigator.UserAgent lower case: -1
getLink(): undefined
getPlatform(): Windows
getLanguage(): German


window.location.href 	http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html
navigator.platform 	Win32
navigator.platform.toLowerCase() 	win32
navigator.userAgent 	Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:12.0) 
Gecko/20120422 Firefox/12.0 SeaMonkey/2.9
navigator.userAgent.toLowerCase()	mozilla/5.0 (windows nt 5.1; rv:12.0) 
gecko/20120422 firefox/12.0 seamonkey/2.9
navigator.language 	de-DE
navigator.userLanguage 	undefined
navigator.systemLanguage	undefined
navigator.javaEnabled()	Yes


Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <or...@googlemail.com>.
Hi

On 04.05.2012 18:32, Kay Schenk wrote:
> On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 6:36 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann<
> orwittmann@googlemail.com>  wrote:
>
> [snip]
>
>>
>>> @All:
>>> Can others please test on Windows with MSIE and Firefox? I really hope
>>> it's just
>>> my Windows XP (in a Virtualbox VM).
>>>
>>>
>> Here are my results:
>>
>> Windows 7, en-US:
>> - Firefox 10.0.4, en-US
>> window.location.href    http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze>
>> navigator.platform      Win32
>> navigator.platform.**toLowerCase()        win32
>> navigator.userAgent     Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:10.0.4)
>> Gecko/20100101 Firefox/10.0.4
>> navigator.userAgent.**toLowerCase()       mozilla/5.0 (windows nt 6.1;
>> wow64; rv:10.0.4) gecko/20100101 firefox/10.0.4
>> navigator.language      en-US
>>
>> navigator.userLanguage  undefined
>> navigator.systemLanguage        undefined
>> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
>> ==>  getting AOO 3.4 en-US download on .../test/index_new.dl
>>
>> - Windows Internet Explorer 9
>> window.location.href    http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze>
>> navigator.platform      Win32
>> navigator.platform.**toLowerCase() win32
>> navigator.userAgent Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE 9.0; Windows NT 6.1;
>> WOW64; Trident/5.0; SLCC2; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR
>> 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; .NET4.0C; .NET4.0E)
>> navigator.userAgent.**toLowerCase() mozilla/5.0 (compatible; msie 9.0;
>> windows nt 6.1; wow64; trident/5.0; slcc2; .net clr 2.0.50727; .net clr
>> 3.5.30729; .net clr 3.0.30729; media center pc 6.0; .net4.0c; .net4.0e)
>> navigator.language undefined
>> navigator.userLanguage de
>> navigator.systemLanguage en-us
>> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
>> ==>  getting AOO 3.4 de download on .../test/index_new.dl
>>
>> ==============================**========
>> Windows 7, de
>> - Firefox 10.0.4, en-US
>> window.location.href    http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze>
>> navigator.platform      Win32
>> navigator.platform.**toLowerCase()        win32
>> navigator.userAgent     Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:10.0.4)
>> Gecko/20100101 Firefox/10.0.4
>> navigator.userAgent.**toLowerCase()       mozilla/5.0 (windows nt 6.1;
>> wow64; rv:10.0.4) gecko/20100101 firefox/10.0.4
>> navigator.language      en-US
>>
>> navigator.userLanguage  undefined
>> navigator.systemLanguage        undefined
>> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
>> ==>  getting AOO 3.4 en-US download on .../test/index_new.dl
>>
>> - Windows Internet Explorer 8
>> window.location.href  http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze>
>> navigator.platform  Win32
>> navigator.platform.**toLowerCase()  win32
>> navigator.userAgent  Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1;
>> WOW64; Trident/4.0; SLCC2; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR
>> 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; .NET4.0C; InfoPath.3)
>> navigator.userAgent.**toLowerCase() mozilla/4.0 (compatible; msie 8.0;
>> windows nt6.1; wow64; trident/4.0; slcc2; .net clr 2.0.50727; .net clr
>> 3.5.30729; .net clr 3.0.30729; media center pc 6.0; .net4.0c; infopath.3)
>>
>> navigator.language  undefined
>> navigator.userLanguage  de
>> navigator.systemLanguage de
>> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
>> ==>  getting AOO 3.4 de download on .../test/index_new.dl
>>
>>
>> Best regards, Oliver.
>>
>
> OK, bottom line -- all OK, right?
>
>

I am not sure, because different browsers on the same system provides me 
different languague packages.

But, I think it is because of my mixed environments:
System 1:
- 'en-US 'Windows 7 + same user configurations (keyboard, time zone, time 
format, location, ...) set to 'de' with 'en-US' FireFox and 'en-US' Windows 
Internet Explorer.
System 2:
- 'de' Windows 7 with 'en-US' FireFox and 'de' Windows Internet Explorer

Best regards, Oliver.

Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 6:36 AM, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <
orwittmann@googlemail.com> wrote:

> Hi
>
>
> On 01.05.2012 00:27, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
>
>> Am 04/30/2012 11:21 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
>>
>>>
>>>  [snip]
>>>
>>>  Good that you've asked. I remember that we have this webpage:
>>
>> http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>>
>> So, I've updated it a bit and nowI get the following browser data:
>>
>>
>>
>> window.location.href http://ooo-site.apache.org/**
>> download/test/analyze.html<http://ooo-site.apache.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>> navigator.platform Linux x86_64
>> navigator.platform.**toLowerCase() linux x86_64
>> navigator.userAgent Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:2.0.1)
>> Gecko/20100101
>> Firefox/4.0.1
>> navigator.userAgent.**toLowerCase() mozilla/5.0 (x11; linux x86_64;
>> rv:2.0.1)
>> gecko/20100101 firefox/4.0.1
>> navigator.language de-DE
>> navigator.userLanguage undefined
>> navigator.systemLanguage undefined
>> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
>>
>>
>>
>> window.location.href http://www.openoffice.org/**
>> download/test/analyze.html<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html>
>> navigator.platform Win32
>> navigator.platform.**toLowerCase() win32
>> navigator.userAgent Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1;
>> SV1)
>> navigator.userAgent.**toLowerCase() mozilla/4.0 (compatible; msie 6.0;
>> windows nt
>> 5.1; sv1)
>> navigator.language undefined
>> navigator.userLanguage de
>> navigator.systemLanguage de
>> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
>>
>>
>> It seems that on Linux the "navigator.language" is set. On Windows this
>> is not
>> set but the "navigator.userLanguage" and "navigator.systemLanguage". All
>> 3 are
>> handled in "download.js" (or in your new "download_new_dl.js").
>>
>
yes...


>
>> Maybe it's helpful to output some debug messages around this area?
>>
>
I had these initially -- a few days ago -- but pulled them out after some
preliminary testing. I did not change at all how languages were found from
the original script.



>
>> @All:
>> Can others please test on Windows with MSIE and Firefox? I really hope
>> it's just
>> my Windows XP (in a Virtualbox VM).
>>
>>
> Here are my results:
>
> Windows 7, en-US:
> - Firefox 10.0.4, en-US
> window.location.href    http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze>
> navigator.platform      Win32
> navigator.platform.**toLowerCase()        win32
> navigator.userAgent     Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:10.0.4)
> Gecko/20100101 Firefox/10.0.4
> navigator.userAgent.**toLowerCase()       mozilla/5.0 (windows nt 6.1;
> wow64; rv:10.0.4) gecko/20100101 firefox/10.0.4
> navigator.language      en-US
>
> navigator.userLanguage  undefined
> navigator.systemLanguage        undefined
> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
> ==> getting AOO 3.4 en-US download on .../test/index_new.dl
>
> - Windows Internet Explorer 9
> window.location.href    http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze>
> navigator.platform      Win32
> navigator.platform.**toLowerCase() win32
> navigator.userAgent Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE 9.0; Windows NT 6.1;
> WOW64; Trident/5.0; SLCC2; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR
> 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; .NET4.0C; .NET4.0E)
> navigator.userAgent.**toLowerCase() mozilla/5.0 (compatible; msie 9.0;
> windows nt 6.1; wow64; trident/5.0; slcc2; .net clr 2.0.50727; .net clr
> 3.5.30729; .net clr 3.0.30729; media center pc 6.0; .net4.0c; .net4.0e)
> navigator.language undefined
> navigator.userLanguage de
> navigator.systemLanguage en-us
> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
> ==> getting AOO 3.4 de download on .../test/index_new.dl
>
> ==============================**========
> Windows 7, de
> - Firefox 10.0.4, en-US
> window.location.href    http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze>
> navigator.platform      Win32
> navigator.platform.**toLowerCase()        win32
> navigator.userAgent     Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:10.0.4)
> Gecko/20100101 Firefox/10.0.4
> navigator.userAgent.**toLowerCase()       mozilla/5.0 (windows nt 6.1;
> wow64; rv:10.0.4) gecko/20100101 firefox/10.0.4
> navigator.language      en-US
>
> navigator.userLanguage  undefined
> navigator.systemLanguage        undefined
> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
> ==> getting AOO 3.4 en-US download on .../test/index_new.dl
>
> - Windows Internet Explorer 8
> window.location.href  http://www.openoffice.org/**download/test/analyze<http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze>
> navigator.platform  Win32
> navigator.platform.**toLowerCase()  win32
> navigator.userAgent  Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1;
> WOW64; Trident/4.0; SLCC2; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR
> 3.0.30729; Media Center PC 6.0; .NET4.0C; InfoPath.3)
> navigator.userAgent.**toLowerCase() mozilla/4.0 (compatible; msie 8.0;
> windows nt6.1; wow64; trident/4.0; slcc2; .net clr 2.0.50727; .net clr
> 3.5.30729; .net clr 3.0.30729; media center pc 6.0; .net4.0c; infopath.3)
>
> navigator.language  undefined
> navigator.userLanguage  de
> navigator.systemLanguage de
> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
> ==> getting AOO 3.4 de download on .../test/index_new.dl
>
>
> Best regards, Oliver.
>

OK, bottom line -- all OK, right?


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Re: [RELEASE] new DL test...needs review and comments, and probably correction

Posted by Oliver-Rainer Wittmann <or...@googlemail.com>.
Hi

On 01.05.2012 00:27, Marcus (OOo) wrote:
> Am 04/30/2012 11:21 PM, schrieb Kay Schenk:
>>
>>  [snip]
>>
> Good that you've asked. I remember that we have this webpage:
>
> http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html
>
> So, I've updated it a bit and nowI get the following browser data:
>
>
>
> window.location.href http://ooo-site.apache.org/download/test/analyze.html
> navigator.platform Linux x86_64
> navigator.platform.toLowerCase() linux x86_64
> navigator.userAgent Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:2.0.1) Gecko/20100101
> Firefox/4.0.1
> navigator.userAgent.toLowerCase() mozilla/5.0 (x11; linux x86_64; rv:2.0.1)
> gecko/20100101 firefox/4.0.1
> navigator.language de-DE
> navigator.userLanguage undefined
> navigator.systemLanguage undefined
> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
>
>
>
> window.location.href http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze.html
> navigator.platform Win32
> navigator.platform.toLowerCase() win32
> navigator.userAgent Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows NT 5.1; SV1)
> navigator.userAgent.toLowerCase() mozilla/4.0 (compatible; msie 6.0; windows nt
> 5.1; sv1)
> navigator.language undefined
> navigator.userLanguage de
> navigator.systemLanguage de
> navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
>
>
> It seems that on Linux the "navigator.language" is set. On Windows this is not
> set but the "navigator.userLanguage" and "navigator.systemLanguage". All 3 are
> handled in "download.js" (or in your new "download_new_dl.js").
>
> Maybe it's helpful to output some debug messages around this area?
>
> @All:
> Can others please test on Windows with MSIE and Firefox? I really hope it's just
> my Windows XP (in a Virtualbox VM).
>

Here are my results:

Windows 7, en-US:
- Firefox 10.0.4, en-US
window.location.href 	http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze
navigator.platform 	Win32
navigator.platform.toLowerCase() 	win32
navigator.userAgent 	Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:10.0.4) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/10.0.4
navigator.userAgent.toLowerCase()	mozilla/5.0 (windows nt 6.1; wow64; rv:10.0.4) 
gecko/20100101 firefox/10.0.4
navigator.language 	en-US
navigator.userLanguage 	undefined
navigator.systemLanguage	undefined
navigator.javaEnabled()	Yes
==> getting AOO 3.4 en-US download on .../test/index_new.dl

- Windows Internet Explorer 9
window.location.href 	http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze
navigator.platform 	Win32
navigator.platform.toLowerCase() win32
navigator.userAgent Mozilla/5.0 (compatible; MSIE 9.0; Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; 
Trident/5.0; SLCC2; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729; 
Media Center PC 6.0; .NET4.0C; .NET4.0E)
navigator.userAgent.toLowerCase() mozilla/5.0 (compatible; msie 9.0; windows nt 
6.1; wow64; trident/5.0; slcc2; .net clr 2.0.50727; .net clr 3.5.30729; .net clr 
3.0.30729; media center pc 6.0; .net4.0c; .net4.0e)
navigator.language undefined
navigator.userLanguage de
navigator.systemLanguage en-us
navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
==> getting AOO 3.4 de download on .../test/index_new.dl

======================================
Windows 7, de
- Firefox 10.0.4, en-US
window.location.href 	http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze
navigator.platform 	Win32
navigator.platform.toLowerCase() 	win32
navigator.userAgent 	Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:10.0.4) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/10.0.4
navigator.userAgent.toLowerCase()	mozilla/5.0 (windows nt 6.1; wow64; rv:10.0.4) 
gecko/20100101 firefox/10.0.4
navigator.language 	en-US
navigator.userLanguage 	undefined
navigator.systemLanguage	undefined
navigator.javaEnabled()	Yes
==> getting AOO 3.4 en-US download on .../test/index_new.dl

- Windows Internet Explorer 8
window.location.href  http://www.openoffice.org/download/test/analyze
navigator.platform  Win32
navigator.platform.toLowerCase()  win32
navigator.userAgent  Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 8.0; Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; 
Trident/4.0; SLCC2; .NET CLR 2.0.50727; .NET CLR 3.5.30729; .NET CLR 3.0.30729; 
Media Center PC 6.0; .NET4.0C; InfoPath.3)
navigator.userAgent.toLowerCase() mozilla/4.0 (compatible; msie 8.0; windows 
nt6.1; wow64; trident/4.0; slcc2; .net clr 2.0.50727; .net clr 3.5.30729; .net 
clr 3.0.30729; media center pc 6.0; .net4.0c; infopath.3)
navigator.language  undefined
navigator.userLanguage  de
navigator.systemLanguage de
navigator.javaEnabled() Yes
==> getting AOO 3.4 de download on .../test/index_new.dl


Best regards, Oliver.