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Posted to dev@marmotta.apache.org by Sergio Fernández <wi...@apache.org> on 2012/12/11 17:06:53 UTC
web infrastructure for the project
Hi,
one of the initial thing we'd need to setup is a proper website for the
project under the new normative domain under incubator [1]. Before Infra
team would be able to solve INFRA-5664 issue, they are awaiting for a
decision from us.
Basically we have two options [3]:
a) CMS-based site [4]
b) svnpubsub-based site [5]
On the one hand, CMS looks great for maintenance using the bookmarklet,
allowing a more flexible structure far from how code is organized. On
the other hand, besides some bugs I'm pretty sure we can solve,
svnpubsub allow us to use maven site, keeping in that way synchronized
public website with the actual development status.
So, by vote goes for 'b'.
Cheers,
[1] http://marmotta.incubator.apache.org
[2] http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5624
[3] http://www.apache.org/dev/infra-contact#what-we-need-to-know
[4] http://www.apache.org/dev/cms
[5] http://www.apache.org/dev/project-site#intro
--
Sergio Fernández
Re: web infrastructure for the project
Posted by Sebastian Schaffert <ss...@apache.org>.
I also vote for b)
I like the idea of being able to manage the project website together with
the source code. For topics that don't follow the software release cycle we
anyways have the wiki.
2012/12/11 Sergio Fernández <wi...@apache.org>
> Hi,
>
> one of the initial thing we'd need to setup is a proper website for the
> project under the new normative domain under incubator [1]. Before Infra
> team would be able to solve INFRA-5664 issue, they are awaiting for a
> decision from us.
>
> Basically we have two options [3]:
>
> a) CMS-based site [4]
> b) svnpubsub-based site [5]
>
> On the one hand, CMS looks great for maintenance using the bookmarklet,
> allowing a more flexible structure far from how code is organized. On the
> other hand, besides some bugs I'm pretty sure we can solve, svnpubsub allow
> us to use maven site, keeping in that way synchronized public website with
> the actual development status.
>
> So, by vote goes for 'b'.
>
> Cheers,
>
> [1] http://marmotta.incubator.**apache.org<http://marmotta.incubator.apache.org>
> [2] http://issues.apache.org/jira/**browse/INFRA-5624<http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5624>
> [3] http://www.apache.org/dev/**infra-contact#what-we-need-to-**know<http://www.apache.org/dev/infra-contact#what-we-need-to-know>
> [4] http://www.apache.org/dev/cms
> [5] http://www.apache.org/dev/**project-site#intro<http://www.apache.org/dev/project-site#intro>
> --
> Sergio Fernández
>
Re: web infrastructure for the project
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 1:06 PM, Raffaele Palmieri
<ra...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I viewed tutorial for using bookmarklet in CMS; it is very comfortable
> update content specially for individuals who will not have aligned
> environment for building source code, I think about advanced users that
> could produce technical documentation of tools released by the project.
> So if it's possible to combine that feature with svnpubsub, I think it's
> the best option....
Apache CMS content is managed in svn and you can always edit it
manually or generate parts of it.
See http://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/stanbol/site/trunk/ for example,
which holds the content of http://stanbol.apache.org/
Editing content in svn triggers the CMS build process, which puts
content at http://stanbol.staging.apache.org/ - you then just need to
publish the content to the live site from cms.apache.org
-Bertrand
Re: web infrastructure for the project
Posted by Raffaele Palmieri <ra...@gmail.com>.
I viewed tutorial for using bookmarklet in CMS; it is very comfortable
update content specially for individuals who will not have aligned
environment for building source code, I think about advanced users that
could produce technical documentation of tools released by the project.
So if it's possible to combine that feature with svnpubsub, I think it's
the best option.
Regards,
Raffaele.
On 11 December 2012 20:58, Fabian Christ <ch...@googlemail.com>wrote:
> 2012/12/11 Nandana Mihindukulasooriya <na...@gmail.com>
>
> > I didn't get much time to dig into details but AFAIK maven generated site
> > can be used with option a) as well.
> >
>
> I have to make a test to be sure but I think you can also include HTML
> pages in the ASF CMS. So it should be possible to include Maven generated
> pages.
>
> --
> Fabian
> http://twitter.com/fctwitt
>
Re: web infrastructure for the project
Posted by Fabian Christ <ch...@googlemail.com>.
2012/12/11 Nandana Mihindukulasooriya <na...@gmail.com>
> I didn't get much time to dig into details but AFAIK maven generated site
> can be used with option a) as well.
>
I have to make a test to be sure but I think you can also include HTML
pages in the ASF CMS. So it should be possible to include Maven generated
pages.
--
Fabian
http://twitter.com/fctwitt
Re: web infrastructure for the project
Posted by Sergio Fernández <wi...@apache.org>.
Thanks, Andy. It's working now.
On 16/01/13 20:15, Andy Seaborne wrote:
> On 16/01/13 16:21, Nandana Mihindukulasooriya wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Sergio Fernández <
>> sergio.fernandez@salzburgresearch.at> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> INFRA team commented me at IRC that our mentors need to set up acl. So,
>>> Fabian, Nandana or Andy, could you please take care of it?
>>>
>>
>> Yes, the following has to be inserted to the
>> asf-authorization-template. I
>> don't have Authorization karma but being PMC chairs both Fabian and Andy
>> have the necessary karma to do it.
>>
>> marmotta=andy,fchrist,nandana,wikier,sschaffert,rwesten,dglachs,jakob,tkurz
>>
>>
>> Best Regards,
>> Nandana
>>
>>
>> [1] - http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html#Set+Up+Repository
>>
>
> Done!
>
--
Sergio Fernández
Re: web infrastructure for the project
Posted by Andy Seaborne <an...@apache.org>.
On 16/01/13 16:21, Nandana Mihindukulasooriya wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Sergio Fernández <
> sergio.fernandez@salzburgresearch.at> wrote:
>>
>>
>> INFRA team commented me at IRC that our mentors need to set up acl. So,
>> Fabian, Nandana or Andy, could you please take care of it?
>>
>
> Yes, the following has to be inserted to the asf-authorization-template. I
> don't have Authorization karma but being PMC chairs both Fabian and Andy
> have the necessary karma to do it.
>
> marmotta=andy,fchrist,nandana,wikier,sschaffert,rwesten,dglachs,jakob,tkurz
>
> Best Regards,
> Nandana
>
>
> [1] - http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html#Set+Up+Repository
>
Done!
Re: web infrastructure for the project
Posted by Nandana Mihindukulasooriya <na...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 4:53 PM, Sergio Fernández <
sergio.fernandez@salzburgresearch.at> wrote:
>
>
> INFRA team commented me at IRC that our mentors need to set up acl. So,
> Fabian, Nandana or Andy, could you please take care of it?
>
Yes, the following has to be inserted to the asf-authorization-template. I
don't have Authorization karma but being PMC chairs both Fabian and Andy
have the necessary karma to do it.
marmotta=andy,fchrist,nandana,wikier,sschaffert,rwesten,dglachs,jakob,tkurz
Best Regards,
Nandana
[1] - http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html#Set+Up+Repository
Re: web infrastructure for the project
Posted by Sergio Fernández <se...@salzburgresearch.at>.
Hi,
resuming MARMOTTA-4, more precisely INFRA-5624, I noticed that I can't
commit at https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/marmotta
INFRA team commented me at IRC that our mentors need to set up acl. So,
Fabian, Nandana or Andy, could you please take care of it?
Thanks in advance.
Cheers,
--
Sergio Fernández
Salzburg Research
+43 662 2288 318
Jakob-Haringer Strasse 5/II
A-5020 Salzburg (Austria)
http://www.salzburgresearch.at
Re: web infrastructure for the project
Posted by Sergio Fernández <wi...@apache.org>.
Hi,
On 11/12/12 18:46, Nandana Mihindukulasooriya wrote:
> I didn't get much time to dig into details but AFAIK maven generated site
> can be used with option a) as well. I think Maven project is doing it that
> way.
If that would be possible, I think it'll solve all our expectations.
I'll ask to INFRA about it.
--
Sergio Fernández
Re: web infrastructure for the project
Posted by Nandana Mihindukulasooriya <na...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 5:06 PM, Sergio Fernández <wi...@apache.org> wrote:
> a) CMS-based site [4]
> b) svnpubsub-based site [5]
>
> On the one hand, CMS looks great for maintenance using the bookmarklet,
> allowing a more flexible structure far from how code is organized. On the
> other hand, besides some bugs I'm pretty sure we can solve, svnpubsub allow
> us to use maven site, keeping in that way synchronized public website with
> the actual development status.
>
I didn't get much time to dig into details but AFAIK maven generated site
can be used with option a) as well. I think Maven project is doing it that
way [1, 2].
Best Regards,
Nandana
[1] - http://markmail.org/message/ksxhdh3pxc4t5qpp
[2] - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-5591
[3] - https://blogs.apache.org/infra/entry/apache_cms_and_external_build
[4] - http://maventest.apache.org/
Re: web infrastructure for the project
Posted by Jakob Frank <ja...@apache.org>.
On Tue, 2012-12-11 at 17:06 +0100, Sergio Fernández wrote:
> b) svnpubsub-based site [5]
>
> On the other hand, besides some bugs I'm pretty sure we can solve,
> svnpubsub allow us to use maven site, keeping in that way synchronized
> public website with the actual development status.
+1
Best
Jakob