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Posted to dev@sentry.apache.org by Sean Mackrory <ma...@gmail.com> on 2020/10/09 16:46:50 UTC
[DISCUSS] Move Apache Sentry to Apache Attic
Hi all,
On June 5th I sent an email soliciting anyone in the community who was
interested in being more involved in the project to make themselves
known, as they are needed by the community. I didn't see a response from
anyone. As you can see in the minutes of the ASF board meetings, there's
been a significant decrease in community activity:
https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/Sentry.html. In fact there is
virtually none at the moment. It may be time to move the project to the
Apache Attic: https://attic.apache.org/. It's worth noting that, as others
before me have said, this isn't a bad thing and it isn't a final thing
either. If there is renewed interest in the future, the Apache Attic
leadership is supportive of linking to active forks, and there is a process
to revive the project to its current status. This is often a natural part
of a project's lifecycle.
If there is a desire for the project to continue, or if you are actively
using or working on things related to Apache Sentry, please speak up! 3
active PMC members are required for the project to continue, and I'm more
than happy to be one of those 3 active PMC members to help oversee
the community. We would welcome new contributors too. However I'm no longer
in a position to actively develop the project myself, and that seems to be
true generally. I personally think it's best for everyone if the project
moves to the Attic.
Unless there are objections, I'll start a thread on the public dev list
soon for PMC members to vote on a move to the Apache Attic.
Re: [DISCUSS] Move Apache Sentry to Apache Attic
Posted by 邓志华 <de...@gmail.com>.
Hi
May I have your time to take a look at these:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SENTRY-2559
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SENTRY-2560
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SENTRY-2561
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SENTRY-2562
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SENTRY-2563
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/SENTRY-2564
Thanks in advance!
Regards
Zhihua Deng
Sean Mackrory <ma...@gmail.com> 于2020年10月20日周二 上午12:21写道：
> Thanks for your input. If there are contributions you would like to make, I
> would suggest making them very soon, because ultimately this is a question
> of community activity. I (and I'm sure a few other PMC members, I'm sure)
> would be happy to review your patches, but it sounds like there may not be
> anyone else who plans to take an active role in development. If there's no
> activity on the project, we can't really make an argument to keep the
> project going.
>
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 7:04 AM 邓志华 <de...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > It's would be great that the user mailing lists still exist. Though I
> > want to make some contributions to the project recently,
> > but willing to respect and understand the decision made on the future of
> > the project.
> >
> > Regards
> > Zhihua Deng
> >
> > Sean Mackrory <ma...@gmail.com> 于2020年10月17日周六 上午1:54写道：
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Good to hear it's been working well for you. However I think you may be
> > in
> > > the same situation regardless of whether Sentry moves to the attic or
> > not,
> > > as for the last few months there has been no activity on the project,
> and
> > > so far it doesn't sound like anyone will be maintaining it in the
> future.
> > > Would you be interested in contributing to & maintaining the project?
> Is
> > > there any new development you're interested in? Again, even if the
> > project
> > > moves to the Attic, user mailing lists still exist, and project forks
> are
> > > allowed / linked to by the Attic project, and nothing prevents any
> > > commercial vendor from providing security updates, etc. on their forks.
> > >
> > > On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 8:11 PM 邓志华 <de...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Sean,
> > > >
> > > > We are now actively using the Apache Sentry in our Hive/SparkSQL. The
> > > > project has provided
> > > > a stable and precise control of privileges for nearly 2 years. We
> hope
> > > the
> > > > project to continue to
> > > > provide such a good authorization service, thank you!
> > > >
> > > > Regards
> > > > Zhihua Deng
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Sean Mackrory <ma...@gmail.com> 于2020年10月10日周六 上午12:47写道：
> > > >
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > On June 5th I sent an email soliciting anyone in the community who
> > was
> > > > > interested in being more involved in the project to make themselves
> > > > > known, as they are needed by the community. I didn't see a response
> > > from
> > > > > anyone. As you can see in the minutes of the ASF board meetings,
> > > there's
> > > > > been a significant decrease in community activity:
> > > > > https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/Sentry.html. In fact there
> > is
> > > > > virtually none at the moment. It may be time to move the project to
> > the
> > > > > Apache Attic: https://attic.apache.org/. It's worth noting that,
> as
> > > > others
> > > > > before me have said, this isn't a bad thing and it isn't a final
> > thing
> > > > > either. If there is renewed interest in the future, the Apache
> Attic
> > > > > leadership is supportive of linking to active forks, and there is a
> > > > process
> > > > > to revive the project to its current status. This is often a
> natural
> > > part
> > > > > of a project's lifecycle.
> > > > >
> > > > > If there is a desire for the project to continue, or if you are
> > > actively
> > > > > using or working on things related to Apache Sentry, please speak
> > up! 3
> > > > > active PMC members are required for the project to continue, and
> I'm
> > > more
> > > > > than happy to be one of those 3 active PMC members to help oversee
> > > > > the community. We would welcome new contributors too. However I'm
> no
> > > > longer
> > > > > in a position to actively develop the project myself, and that
> seems
> > to
> > > > be
> > > > > true generally. I personally think it's best for everyone if the
> > > project
> > > > > moves to the Attic.
> > > > >
> > > > > Unless there are objections, I'll start a thread on the public dev
> > list
> > > > > soon for PMC members to vote on a move to the Apache Attic.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Move Apache Sentry to Apache Attic
Posted by Sean Mackrory <ma...@gmail.com>.
Thanks for your input. If there are contributions you would like to make, I
would suggest making them very soon, because ultimately this is a question
of community activity. I (and I'm sure a few other PMC members, I'm sure)
would be happy to review your patches, but it sounds like there may not be
anyone else who plans to take an active role in development. If there's no
activity on the project, we can't really make an argument to keep the
project going.
On Mon, Oct 19, 2020 at 7:04 AM 邓志华 <de...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> It's would be great that the user mailing lists still exist. Though I
> want to make some contributions to the project recently,
> but willing to respect and understand the decision made on the future of
> the project.
>
> Regards
> Zhihua Deng
>
> Sean Mackrory <ma...@gmail.com> 于2020年10月17日周六 上午1:54写道：
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Good to hear it's been working well for you. However I think you may be
> in
> > the same situation regardless of whether Sentry moves to the attic or
> not,
> > as for the last few months there has been no activity on the project, and
> > so far it doesn't sound like anyone will be maintaining it in the future.
> > Would you be interested in contributing to & maintaining the project? Is
> > there any new development you're interested in? Again, even if the
> project
> > moves to the Attic, user mailing lists still exist, and project forks are
> > allowed / linked to by the Attic project, and nothing prevents any
> > commercial vendor from providing security updates, etc. on their forks.
> >
> > On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 8:11 PM 邓志华 <de...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Sean,
> > >
> > > We are now actively using the Apache Sentry in our Hive/SparkSQL. The
> > > project has provided
> > > a stable and precise control of privileges for nearly 2 years. We hope
> > the
> > > project to continue to
> > > provide such a good authorization service, thank you!
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Zhihua Deng
> > >
> > >
> > > Sean Mackrory <ma...@gmail.com> 于2020年10月10日周六 上午12:47写道：
> > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > On June 5th I sent an email soliciting anyone in the community who
> was
> > > > interested in being more involved in the project to make themselves
> > > > known, as they are needed by the community. I didn't see a response
> > from
> > > > anyone. As you can see in the minutes of the ASF board meetings,
> > there's
> > > > been a significant decrease in community activity:
> > > > https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/Sentry.html. In fact there
> is
> > > > virtually none at the moment. It may be time to move the project to
> the
> > > > Apache Attic: https://attic.apache.org/. It's worth noting that, as
> > > others
> > > > before me have said, this isn't a bad thing and it isn't a final
> thing
> > > > either. If there is renewed interest in the future, the Apache Attic
> > > > leadership is supportive of linking to active forks, and there is a
> > > process
> > > > to revive the project to its current status. This is often a natural
> > part
> > > > of a project's lifecycle.
> > > >
> > > > If there is a desire for the project to continue, or if you are
> > actively
> > > > using or working on things related to Apache Sentry, please speak
> up! 3
> > > > active PMC members are required for the project to continue, and I'm
> > more
> > > > than happy to be one of those 3 active PMC members to help oversee
> > > > the community. We would welcome new contributors too. However I'm no
> > > longer
> > > > in a position to actively develop the project myself, and that seems
> to
> > > be
> > > > true generally. I personally think it's best for everyone if the
> > project
> > > > moves to the Attic.
> > > >
> > > > Unless there are objections, I'll start a thread on the public dev
> list
> > > > soon for PMC members to vote on a move to the Apache Attic.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Move Apache Sentry to Apache Attic
Posted by 邓志华 <de...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
It's would be great that the user mailing lists still exist. Though I
want to make some contributions to the project recently,
but willing to respect and understand the decision made on the future of
the project.
Regards
Zhihua Deng
Sean Mackrory <ma...@gmail.com> 于2020年10月17日周六 上午1:54写道：
> Hello,
>
> Good to hear it's been working well for you. However I think you may be in
> the same situation regardless of whether Sentry moves to the attic or not,
> as for the last few months there has been no activity on the project, and
> so far it doesn't sound like anyone will be maintaining it in the future.
> Would you be interested in contributing to & maintaining the project? Is
> there any new development you're interested in? Again, even if the project
> moves to the Attic, user mailing lists still exist, and project forks are
> allowed / linked to by the Attic project, and nothing prevents any
> commercial vendor from providing security updates, etc. on their forks.
>
> On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 8:11 PM 邓志华 <de...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Sean,
> >
> > We are now actively using the Apache Sentry in our Hive/SparkSQL. The
> > project has provided
> > a stable and precise control of privileges for nearly 2 years. We hope
> the
> > project to continue to
> > provide such a good authorization service, thank you!
> >
> > Regards
> > Zhihua Deng
> >
> >
> > Sean Mackrory <ma...@gmail.com> 于2020年10月10日周六 上午12:47写道：
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > On June 5th I sent an email soliciting anyone in the community who was
> > > interested in being more involved in the project to make themselves
> > > known, as they are needed by the community. I didn't see a response
> from
> > > anyone. As you can see in the minutes of the ASF board meetings,
> there's
> > > been a significant decrease in community activity:
> > > https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/Sentry.html. In fact there is
> > > virtually none at the moment. It may be time to move the project to the
> > > Apache Attic: https://attic.apache.org/. It's worth noting that, as
> > others
> > > before me have said, this isn't a bad thing and it isn't a final thing
> > > either. If there is renewed interest in the future, the Apache Attic
> > > leadership is supportive of linking to active forks, and there is a
> > process
> > > to revive the project to its current status. This is often a natural
> part
> > > of a project's lifecycle.
> > >
> > > If there is a desire for the project to continue, or if you are
> actively
> > > using or working on things related to Apache Sentry, please speak up! 3
> > > active PMC members are required for the project to continue, and I'm
> more
> > > than happy to be one of those 3 active PMC members to help oversee
> > > the community. We would welcome new contributors too. However I'm no
> > longer
> > > in a position to actively develop the project myself, and that seems to
> > be
> > > true generally. I personally think it's best for everyone if the
> project
> > > moves to the Attic.
> > >
> > > Unless there are objections, I'll start a thread on the public dev list
> > > soon for PMC members to vote on a move to the Apache Attic.
> > >
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Move Apache Sentry to Apache Attic
Posted by Sean Mackrory <ma...@gmail.com>.
Hello,
Good to hear it's been working well for you. However I think you may be in
the same situation regardless of whether Sentry moves to the attic or not,
as for the last few months there has been no activity on the project, and
so far it doesn't sound like anyone will be maintaining it in the future.
Would you be interested in contributing to & maintaining the project? Is
there any new development you're interested in? Again, even if the project
moves to the Attic, user mailing lists still exist, and project forks are
allowed / linked to by the Attic project, and nothing prevents any
commercial vendor from providing security updates, etc. on their forks.
On Fri, Oct 9, 2020 at 8:11 PM 邓志华 <de...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Sean,
>
> We are now actively using the Apache Sentry in our Hive/SparkSQL. The
> project has provided
> a stable and precise control of privileges for nearly 2 years. We hope the
> project to continue to
> provide such a good authorization service, thank you!
>
> Regards
> Zhihua Deng
>
>
> Sean Mackrory <ma...@gmail.com> 于2020年10月10日周六 上午12:47写道：
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > On June 5th I sent an email soliciting anyone in the community who was
> > interested in being more involved in the project to make themselves
> > known, as they are needed by the community. I didn't see a response from
> > anyone. As you can see in the minutes of the ASF board meetings, there's
> > been a significant decrease in community activity:
> > https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/Sentry.html. In fact there is
> > virtually none at the moment. It may be time to move the project to the
> > Apache Attic: https://attic.apache.org/. It's worth noting that, as
> others
> > before me have said, this isn't a bad thing and it isn't a final thing
> > either. If there is renewed interest in the future, the Apache Attic
> > leadership is supportive of linking to active forks, and there is a
> process
> > to revive the project to its current status. This is often a natural part
> > of a project's lifecycle.
> >
> > If there is a desire for the project to continue, or if you are actively
> > using or working on things related to Apache Sentry, please speak up! 3
> > active PMC members are required for the project to continue, and I'm more
> > than happy to be one of those 3 active PMC members to help oversee
> > the community. We would welcome new contributors too. However I'm no
> longer
> > in a position to actively develop the project myself, and that seems to
> be
> > true generally. I personally think it's best for everyone if the project
> > moves to the Attic.
> >
> > Unless there are objections, I'll start a thread on the public dev list
> > soon for PMC members to vote on a move to the Apache Attic.
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSS] Move Apache Sentry to Apache Attic
Posted by 邓志华 <de...@gmail.com>.
Hi Sean,
We are now actively using the Apache Sentry in our Hive/SparkSQL. The
project has provided
a stable and precise control of privileges for nearly 2 years. We hope the
project to continue to
provide such a good authorization service, thank you!
Regards
Zhihua Deng
Sean Mackrory <ma...@gmail.com> 于2020年10月10日周六 上午12:47写道：
> Hi all,
>
> On June 5th I sent an email soliciting anyone in the community who was
> interested in being more involved in the project to make themselves
> known, as they are needed by the community. I didn't see a response from
> anyone. As you can see in the minutes of the ASF board meetings, there's
> been a significant decrease in community activity:
> https://whimsy.apache.org/board/minutes/Sentry.html. In fact there is
> virtually none at the moment. It may be time to move the project to the
> Apache Attic: https://attic.apache.org/. It's worth noting that, as others
> before me have said, this isn't a bad thing and it isn't a final thing
> either. If there is renewed interest in the future, the Apache Attic
> leadership is supportive of linking to active forks, and there is a process
> to revive the project to its current status. This is often a natural part
> of a project's lifecycle.
>
> If there is a desire for the project to continue, or if you are actively
> using or working on things related to Apache Sentry, please speak up! 3
> active PMC members are required for the project to continue, and I'm more
> than happy to be one of those 3 active PMC members to help oversee
> the community. We would welcome new contributors too. However I'm no longer
> in a position to actively develop the project myself, and that seems to be
> true generally. I personally think it's best for everyone if the project
> moves to the Attic.
>
> Unless there are objections, I'll start a thread on the public dev list
> soon for PMC members to vote on a move to the Apache Attic.
>