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Posted to p-dev@xerces.apache.org by "Parand T. Darugar" <td...@velocigen.com> on 2000/07/19 22:15:38 UTC
Brining the project back from dead
Hello,
Seems Xerces-Perl has once again faded into the great
beyond. Let's try to revive this.
Could people who are developing or have developed code
or otherwise worked on this project please step forward
and let us know where things are?
Is it the case that the originial developers do not have
the bandwidth for continued work on this project? If so,
let's see if we can grow another group. If the original
developers are still available, let's get a bit more organized
and see if we can move things forward.
Best,
Parand Tony Darugar tdarugar@velocigen.com
858-622-1164 High Performance Perl Server Pages
858-622-0303 fax VelociGen XML Server
http://www.velocigen.com/ Confidential
Re: Brining the project back from dead
Posted by Mike Pogue <mp...@apache.org>.
You all might want to contact Tom Watson at Portal, who did the original work, to see if
he has some time to help get the code/docs at least available for others to work on...
Mike
"Parand T. Darugar" wrote:
>
> Dear Serge,
>
> > Actually, I worked hard to use Xerces-Perl on Linux and now I'm using it with
> > success.
>
> Great to hear that. I believe a main stumbling block in getting
> more interest in the project is that currently there's no documented
> way to get Xerces-Perl working on Linux. If we can get the package out
> there, I'm sure people will start using it.
>
> Can you put together instructions for how to get the package to
> compile? I'll put a web page together for it, and we can get people
> started playing with it.
>
> > I think we should work on the following points:
> > - Set up of a new group for Xerces-Perl
> > - State of the art of Xerces-Perl development
> > - Single place of downloading with update version of Xerces-Perl for Windows
> > and Linux
> > - Xerces-Perl on Linux (perhaps we can create a sub-group for this topic)
> > - Definition of next steps for Xerces-Perl
> > - Documentation, communication (update of the Xerces-Perl web site).
>
> Best,
>
> Parand Tony Darugar tdarugar@velocigen.com
> 858-622-1164 High Performance Perl Server Pages
> 858-622-0303 fax VelociGen XML Server
> http://www.velocigen.com/ Confidential
>
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Re: Brining the project back from dead
Posted by "Parand T. Darugar" <td...@velocigen.com>.
Dear Serge,
> Actually, I worked hard to use Xerces-Perl on Linux and now I'm using it with
> success.
Great to hear that. I believe a main stumbling block in getting
more interest in the project is that currently there's no documented
way to get Xerces-Perl working on Linux. If we can get the package out
there, I'm sure people will start using it.
Can you put together instructions for how to get the package to
compile? I'll put a web page together for it, and we can get people
started playing with it.
> I think we should work on the following points:
> - Set up of a new group for Xerces-Perl
> - State of the art of Xerces-Perl development
> - Single place of downloading with update version of Xerces-Perl for Windows
> and Linux
> - Xerces-Perl on Linux (perhaps we can create a sub-group for this topic)
> - Definition of next steps for Xerces-Perl
> - Documentation, communication (update of the Xerces-Perl web site).
Best,
Parand Tony Darugar tdarugar@velocigen.com
858-622-1164 High Performance Perl Server Pages
858-622-0303 fax VelociGen XML Server
http://www.velocigen.com/ Confidential
Re: Brining the project back from dead
Posted by Serge Baccou <sb...@sxb.bsf.alcatel.fr>.
I'm pleased to see that someone is wondering if Xerces-Perl is still alive.
If a new group is set up, I would be glad to join it.
Actually, I worked hard to use Xerces-Perl on Linux and now I'm using it with
success. I still have troubles with the perl debugger and some warnings are
still here when my perl script have -w option. Those problemes may be due to
SWIG.
I think we should work on the following points:
- Set up of a new group for Xerces-Perl
- State of the art of Xerces-Perl development
- Single place of downloading with update version of Xerces-Perl for Windows
and Linux
- Xerces-Perl on Linux (perhaps we can create a sub-group for this topic)
- Definition of next steps for Xerces-Perl
- Documentation, communication (update of the Xerces-Perl web site).
Serge Baccou
Sea Informatique for Alcatel
sbac@sxb.bsf.alcatel.fr
Tel. : (+33) 03 90 67 68 17
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"Parand T. Darugar" wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Seems Xerces-Perl has once again faded into the great
> beyond. Let's try to revive this.
>
> Could people who are developing or have developed code
> or otherwise worked on this project please step forward
> and let us know where things are?
>
> Is it the case that the originial developers do not have
> the bandwidth for continued work on this project? If so,
> let's see if we can grow another group. If the original
> developers are still available, let's get a bit more organized
> and see if we can move things forward.
>
> Best,
>
> Parand Tony Darugar tdarugar@velocigen.com
Re: Brining the project back from dead
Posted by Sander van Zoest <sa...@covalent.net>.
Why don't we just send the PATCH to the list and have someone with
commit access approve the patch and put it in CVS? That seems like
the normal way to handle this.
> > Name Organisation
> > e-mail Interest
> > Serge Baccou Sea Informatique sbac@sxb.bsf.alcatel.fr
> > Linux Distribution of Xerces-Perl
> Parand Tony Darugar, VelociGen Inc, tdarugar@velocigen.com, Linux Distribution of Xerces-Perl
Sander van Zoest, Covalent Technologies, Inc., sander@covalent.net, FreeBSD port
--
Sander van Zoest [sander@covalent.net]
Covalent Technologies, Inc. http://www.covalent.net
Re: Brining the project back from dead
Posted by "Parand T. Darugar" <td...@velocigen.com>.
Dear Serge,
> I can write the beginning of checklist and gather information, binaries and
> code needed to make a Linux distribution of Xerces-Perl. But first, where can
> I put this package ? Can we have a sort some pages on a web site to put links
> on documentation and on this package ?
I can get some space for a web site and packages, and handle the
mailing list. Of course there is the official xml.apache.org site we
can use also. Here is a url for an old repository of stuff:
http://www.velocigen.com/~tdarugar/xerces-p/
> Name Organisation
> e-mail Interest
> Serge Baccou Sea Informatique sbac@sxb.bsf.alcatel.fr
> Linux Distribution of Xerces-Perl
Parand Tony Darugar, VelociGen Inc, tdarugar@velocigen.com, Linux Distribution of Xerces-Perl
Best,
Parand Tony Darugar tdarugar@velocigen.com
858-622-1164 High Performance Perl Server Pages
858-622-0303 fax VelociGen XML Server
http://www.velocigen.com/ Confidential
Re: Brining the project back from dead
Posted by Serge Baccou <sb...@sxb.bsf.alcatel.fr>.
Hi,
I can write the beginning of checklist and gather information, binaries and
code needed to make a Linux distribution of Xerces-Perl. But first, where can
I put this package ? Can we have a sort some pages on a web site to put links
on documentation and on this package ?
I also think that we should identify people wo want to collaborate to this
new born of Xerces-Perl project with a beginning of responsabilities sharing.
Can we try to have a list of people who want to be part of the Xerces-Perl
group with their email address ?
Perhaps, you can complete the following list:
Name Organisation
e-mail Interest
Serge Baccou Sea Informatique sbac@sxb.bsf.alcatel.fr
Linux Distribution of Xerces-Perl
...
Serge.
"Parand T. Darugar" wrote:
> Hi gang,
>
> Glad to see some movement here. I'm still convinced
> that not having linux availability is realy cramping
> Xerces-Perl's style. If we can get something that people
> can compile and use, we'll start seeing usage, bug reports,
> increased interest, and so forth.
>
> What would it take to get a linux compilable version
> available? Several people have reported they're using the
> package on linux. Could you post instructions, provide
> code, etc, so the rest of us can join the party?
>
> Meanwhile, we can get the team setup for future growth.
> Right now it's hard to recruit actual users of the product
> for development, since the user base is so small. I believe
> a base version for linux could change this.
Re: Brining the project back from dead
Posted by Sander van Zoest <sa...@covalent.net>.
On Thu, 27 Jul 2000, Parand T. Darugar wrote:
> What would it take to get a linux compilable version
> available? Several people have reported they're using the
> package on linux. Could you post instructions, provide
> code, etc, so the rest of us can join the party?
I would be interested in getting a FreeBSD port going, I already
spend some time to get some of it in a better shape. I am
currently not working on this for my current project, but I
can see it become more important in the future.
It really requires some trivial casing adjustments and things
like that to get it further along. Granted this also requires
some work on the Xerces-C tree to port that to FreeBSD as well.
I will try to find the time to get that going.
> Meanwhile, we can get the team setup for future growth.
> Right now it's hard to recruit actual users of the product
> for development, since the user base is so small. I believe
> a base version for linux could change this.
I think this could be changed by making it easier to port to
a different OS. If we could provide porting instructions and
then have that contributed back, it would allow for a lot of
other people to join the group in the long run.
--
Sander van Zoest [sander@covalent.net]
Covalent Technologies, Inc. http://www.covalent.net
Re: Brining the project back from dead
Posted by "Parand T. Darugar" <td...@velocigen.com>.
Hi gang,
Glad to see some movement here. I'm still convinced
that not having linux availability is realy cramping
Xerces-Perl's style. If we can get something that people
can compile and use, we'll start seeing usage, bug reports,
increased interest, and so forth.
What would it take to get a linux compilable version
available? Several people have reported they're using the
package on linux. Could you post instructions, provide
code, etc, so the rest of us can join the party?
Meanwhile, we can get the team setup for future growth.
Right now it's hard to recruit actual users of the product
for development, since the user base is so small. I believe
a base version for linux could change this.
Best,
Parand Tony Darugar tdarugar@velocigen.com
858-622-1164 High Performance Perl Server Pages
858-622-0303 fax VelociGen XML Server
http://www.velocigen.com/ Confidential