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Posted to dev@annotator.apache.org by Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org> on 2019/06/14 12:40:07 UTC

Annotator logo??

Hi folks,
do we have a logo for the annotator project? I'm asking specifically 
because the project shows up on www.apache.org from time to time, but it 
doesn't show a logo (so the page breaks).

If we have a logo, where is it?
If we don't, I did a little doodle, at https://i.imgur.com/2WoIRc6.png 
that we could either adopt or use temporarily till we find something 
nifty (I have it as SVG and all that).

WDYT?!

Re: Annotator logo??

Posted by TB Dinesh <di...@servelots.com>.

Yeah.. highlighting the links on the web

On Wed, 19 Jun, 2019, 01:52 Sarven Capadisli, <in...@csarven.ca> wrote:

> On 14/06/2019 14.40, Daniel Gruno wrote:
> > Hi folks,
> > do we have a logo for the annotator project? I'm asking specifically
> > because the project shows up on www.apache.org from time to time, but it
> > doesn't show a logo (so the page breaks).
> >
> > If we have a logo, where is it?
> > If we don't, I did a little doodle, at https://i.imgur.com/2WoIRc6.png
> > that we could either adopt or use temporarily till we find something
> > nifty (I have it as SVG and all that).
> >
> > WDYT?!
> >
>
>
> I think "Annotator" is in context of the Web and so the logo shouldn't
> imitate paper and pen.
>
> -Sarven
> http://csarven.ca/#i
>
>

Re: Annotator logo??

Posted by Sarven Capadisli <in...@csarven.ca>.

On 14/06/2019 14.40, Daniel Gruno wrote:
> Hi folks,
> do we have a logo for the annotator project? I'm asking specifically
> because the project shows up on www.apache.org from time to time, but it
> doesn't show a logo (so the page breaks).
> 
> If we have a logo, where is it?
> If we don't, I did a little doodle, at https://i.imgur.com/2WoIRc6.png
> that we could either adopt or use temporarily till we find something
> nifty (I have it as SVG and all that).
> 
> WDYT?!
> 


I think "Annotator" is in context of the Web and so the logo shouldn't
imitate paper and pen.

-Sarven
http://csarven.ca/#i

Re: Annotator logo??

Posted by Randall Leeds <ra...@apache.org>.

Thank you, Daniel!

On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 12:15 PM Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org> wrote:

> On 6/18/19 9:13 PM, Randall Leeds wrote:
> > I think a pencil is nicely recognizable from the parts. Highlighter,
> maybe
> > less legible. Angled tip, though, maybe works to convey it.
> >
> > I'm up for pulling this in and we can always replace it!
>
> +1, i'll go ahead and submit it to the ASF logo database for now :)
> In the meantime, I also had a highlighter idea, at
> https://imgur.com/a/V4iLx3I that may be what Benjamin was looking for?
> I'll leave it to you folks to figure out which one is best ultimately :)
>
> >
> > On Tue, Jun 18, 2019, 11:29 Benjamin Young <by...@bigbluehat.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Nice work, Daniel! :)
> >>
> >> Would a highlighter be more appropriate?
> >>
> >> I do like the overall feel, though, for sure. :)
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> http://bigbluehat.com/
> >>
> >> http://linkedin.com/in/benjaminyoung
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: ajs6f <aj...@apache.org>
> >> Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 11:24 AM
> >> To: dev@annotator.incubator.apache.org
> >> Subject: Re: Annotator logo??
> >>
> >> +1. A nice combination of cute and serious.
> >>
> >> ajs6f
> >>
> >>> On Jun 14, 2019, at 9:01 AM, Randall Leeds <ra...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I like it! +1 to using this.
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Jun 14, 2019, 08:40 Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi folks,
> >>>> do we have a logo for the annotator project? I'm asking specifically
> >>>> because the project shows up on www.apache.org<http://www.apache.org>
> >> from time to time, but it
> >>>> doesn't show a logo (so the page breaks).
> >>>>
> >>>> If we have a logo, where is it?
> >>>> If we don't, I did a little doodle, at
> https://i.imgur.com/2WoIRc6.png
> >>>> that we could either adopt or use temporarily till we find something
> >>>> nifty (I have it as SVG and all that).
> >>>>
> >>>> WDYT?!
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
> >
>
>

Re: Annotator logo??

Posted by ajs6f <aj...@apache.org>.

I'm having a lot of trouble visualizing this idea, Sarven.

Could you sketch something up so that we can see it? Thanks!

ajs6f

> On Jun 20, 2019, at 12:30 PM, Siegman, Tzviya <ts...@wiley.com> wrote:
> 
> I think the phrase Sarven is looking for is skeuomorph (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skeuomorph).  
> 
> Tzviya Siegman
> Information Standards Lead
> Wiley
> 201-748-6884
> tsiegman@wiley.com 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sarven Capadisli <in...@csarven.ca> 
> Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 10:59 AM
> To: dev@annotator.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Annotator logo??
> 
> On 19/06/2019 15.12, Benjamin Young wrote:
>> Of the three colors, I think blue sends the "webby" message Sarven was 
>> after
> 
> No. That's not what I meant.
> 
> The proposed logo reflects annotation on paper-centric media.
> 
> What I'm saying is that, "Annotator" or "Web Annotation" is about the Web media.
> 
> There is a mismatch.
> 
> Underlining text on paper with a highlighter is analogous to using a floppy disk to indicate a "save" operation. There are countless of this kind of design thinking that looks backward instead of forward.
> 
> I would suggest to revisit the logo with Web-centric goggles on but I'm probably in the minority in saying that :)
> 
> The logo doesn't need to overdo eg:
> 
> "Apache" can be the selected text. "Annotator" can be like the annotation body targeting Apache.
> 
> ^ I don't mean to suggest that's a good idea - and the details are up to whoever is designing - but only to bring the feel of the logo closer to what we actually see on screen and interact with.
> 
> 
> I'll leave you with:
> 
> "The past went that-a-way. When faced with a totally new situation we tend always to attach ourselves to the objects, to the flavor of the most recent past. We look at the present through a rear-view mirror. We march backward into the future. Suburbia lives imaginatively in Bonanza-land."
> 
> The Medium is the Massage: An Inventory of Effects, p74-75, 1967, Marshall McLuhan
> 
> 
> -Sarven
> http://csarven.ca/#i

RE: Annotator logo??

Posted by "Siegman, Tzviya" <ts...@wiley.com>.

I think the phrase Sarven is looking for is skeuomorph (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skeuomorph).  

Tzviya Siegman
Information Standards Lead
Wiley
201-748-6884
tsiegman@wiley.com 

-----Original Message-----
From: Sarven Capadisli <in...@csarven.ca> 
Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2019 10:59 AM
To: dev@annotator.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Annotator logo??

On 19/06/2019 15.12, Benjamin Young wrote:
> Of the three colors, I think blue sends the "webby" message Sarven was 
> after

No. That's not what I meant.

The proposed logo reflects annotation on paper-centric media.

What I'm saying is that, "Annotator" or "Web Annotation" is about the Web media.

There is a mismatch.

Underlining text on paper with a highlighter is analogous to using a floppy disk to indicate a "save" operation. There are countless of this kind of design thinking that looks backward instead of forward.

I would suggest to revisit the logo with Web-centric goggles on but I'm probably in the minority in saying that :)

The logo doesn't need to overdo eg:

"Apache" can be the selected text. "Annotator" can be like the annotation body targeting Apache.

^ I don't mean to suggest that's a good idea - and the details are up to whoever is designing - but only to bring the feel of the logo closer to what we actually see on screen and interact with.

I'll leave you with:

"The past went that-a-way. When faced with a totally new situation we tend always to attach ourselves to the objects, to the flavor of the most recent past. We look at the present through a rear-view mirror. We march backward into the future. Suburbia lives imaginatively in Bonanza-land."

The Medium is the Massage: An Inventory of Effects, p74-75, 1967, Marshall McLuhan

-Sarven
http://csarven.ca/#i

Re: Annotator logo??

Posted by Sarven Capadisli <in...@csarven.ca>.

On 19/06/2019 15.12, Benjamin Young wrote:
> Of the three colors, I think blue sends the "webby" message Sarven was after

No. That's not what I meant.

The proposed logo reflects annotation on paper-centric media.

What I'm saying is that, "Annotator" or "Web Annotation" is about the
Web media.

There is a mismatch.

Underlining text on paper with a highlighter is analogous to using a
floppy disk to indicate a "save" operation. There are countless of this
kind of design thinking that looks backward instead of forward.

I would suggest to revisit the logo with Web-centric goggles on but I'm
probably in the minority in saying that :)

The logo doesn't need to overdo eg:

"Apache" can be the selected text. "Annotator" can be like the
annotation body targeting Apache.

^ I don't mean to suggest that's a good idea - and the details are up to
whoever is designing - but only to bring the feel of the logo closer to
what we actually see on screen and interact with.


I'll leave you with:

"The past went that-a-way. When faced with a totally new situation we
tend always to attach ourselves to the objects, to the flavor of the
most recent past. We look at the present through a rear-view mirror. We
march backward into the future. Suburbia lives imaginatively in
Bonanza-land."

The Medium is the Massage: An Inventory of Effects, p74-75, 1967,
Marshall McLuhan


-Sarven
http://csarven.ca/#i