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Posted to dev@cocoon.apache.org by Ralph Goers <Ra...@dslextreme.com> on 2004/11/09 22:51:57 UTC
Woody and portal-fw in 2.2?
Why are these blocks even in 2.2? They are excluded from the build but
they are deprecated in 2.1 and have replacements.
Can they be removed?
Ralph
Re: [Vote] Remove woody and portal-fw in 2.2?
Posted by Joerg Heinicke <jo...@gmx.de>.
On 10.11.2004 17:09, Ralph Goers wrote:
>>>>>Why are these blocks even in 2.2? They are excluded from the build
>>>>>but
>>>>>they are deprecated in 2.1 and have replacements.
>>>>>
>>>>>Can they be removed?
>>
>>I would probably leave them in in 2.1 series, but +1 for removing in 2.2.
>>Time
>>for a vote?
>
> Sure.
>
> I'm +1 for removing woody and portal-fw from 2.2.
+1
Joerg
Re: [Vote] Remove woody and portal-fw in 2.2?
Posted by Sylvain Wallez <sy...@apache.org>.
Ralph Goers wrote:
>Vadim Gritsenko said:
>
>
>>Ralph Goers wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Antonio Gallardo wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>Ralph Goers dijo:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Why are these blocks even in 2.2? They are excluded from the build
>>>>>but
>>>>>they are deprecated in 2.1 and have replacements.
>>>>>
>>>>>Can they be removed?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>I would probably leave them in in 2.1 series, but +1 for removing in 2.2.
>>Time
>>for a vote?
>>
>>
>
>Sure.
>
>I'm +1 for removing woody and portal-fw from 2.2.
>
>
+1.
Sylvain
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Re: [Vote] Remove woody and portal-fw in 2.2?
Posted by Antonio Gallardo <ag...@agssa.net>.
Ralph Goers dijo:
> I'm +1 for removing woody and portal-fw from 2.2.
+1
Best Regards,
Antonio Gallardo
Re: [Vote] Remove woody and portal-fw in 2.2?
Posted by Vadim Gritsenko <va...@reverycodes.com>.
Upayavira wrote:
> I thought we were working towards a single set of blocks shared between
> both 2.1 and 2.2? If that is the case, we can't deprecate a block in 2.2
> and not in 2.1, at least not at the moment. We'd need a cleverer build
> system, say one that knows which blocks to include from within the
> blocks repository.
We are not there yet, and some blocks differ between 2.1 and 2.2. Anyway, what's
your vote? :)
Vadim
Re: [Vote] Remove woody and portal-fw in 2.2?
Posted by Upayavira <uv...@upaya.co.uk>.
Leszek Gawron wrote:
> Ralph Goers wrote:
>
>> Vadim Gritsenko said:
>>
>>> Ralph Goers wrote:
>>>
>>>> Antonio Gallardo wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Ralph Goers dijo:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Why are these blocks even in 2.2? They are excluded from the build
>>>>>> but
>>>>>> they are deprecated in 2.1 and have replacements.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can they be removed?
>>>>>
>>>
>>> I would probably leave them in in 2.1 series, but +1 for removing in
>>> 2.2.
>>> Time
>>> for a vote?
>>
>>
>>
>> Sure.
>>
>> I'm +1 for removing woody and portal-fw from 2.2.
>>
>> Ralph
>>
> +1 also.
>
I thought we were working towards a single set of blocks shared between
both 2.1 and 2.2? If that is the case, we can't deprecate a block in 2.2
and not in 2.1, at least not at the moment. We'd need a cleverer build
system, say one that knows which blocks to include from within the
blocks repository.
Thoughts?
Upayavira
Re: [Vote] Remove woody and portal-fw in 2.2?
Posted by Leszek Gawron <lg...@mobilebox.pl>.
Ralph Goers wrote:
> Vadim Gritsenko said:
>
>>Ralph Goers wrote:
>>
>>>Antonio Gallardo wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Ralph Goers dijo:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Why are these blocks even in 2.2? They are excluded from the build
>>>>>but
>>>>>they are deprecated in 2.1 and have replacements.
>>>>>
>>>>>Can they be removed?
>>
>>I would probably leave them in in 2.1 series, but +1 for removing in 2.2.
>>Time
>>for a vote?
>
>
> Sure.
>
> I'm +1 for removing woody and portal-fw from 2.2.
>
> Ralph
>
+1 also.
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Re: [Vote] Remove woody and portal-fw in 2.2?
Posted by Tim Larson <ti...@keow.org>.
On Wed, Nov 10, 2004 at 08:09:15AM -0800, Ralph Goers wrote:
> I'm +1 for removing woody and portal-fw from 2.2.
+1
--Tim Larson
Re: [Vote] Remove woody and portal-fw in 2.2?
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
Le 10 nov. 04, à 17:09, Ralph Goers a écrit :
> I'm +1 for removing woody and portal-fw from 2.2.
+1
-Bertrand
[Vote] Remove woody and portal-fw in 2.2?
Posted by Ralph Goers <Ra...@dslextreme.com>.
Vadim Gritsenko said:
> Ralph Goers wrote:
>> Antonio Gallardo wrote:
>>
>>> Ralph Goers dijo:
>>>
>>>> Why are these blocks even in 2.2? They are excluded from the build
>>>> but
>>>> they are deprecated in 2.1 and have replacements.
>>>>
>>>> Can they be removed?
>
> I would probably leave them in in 2.1 series, but +1 for removing in 2.2.
> Time
> for a vote?
Sure.
I'm +1 for removing woody and portal-fw from 2.2.
Ralph
Re: Woody and portal-fw in 2.2?
Posted by Vadim Gritsenko <va...@reverycodes.com>.
Ralph Goers wrote:
> Antonio Gallardo wrote:
>
>> Ralph Goers dijo:
>>
>>> Why are these blocks even in 2.2? They are excluded from the build but
>>> they are deprecated in 2.1 and have replacements.
>>>
>>> Can they be removed?
>>
>>
>> It depends, the "politic" is: deprecate and 2 version later remove them.
>>
>>
> I think we need to clarify (or maybe just I do). The way I am used to
> looking at product numbering you have V.R.M.x where 'V' is the version,
> 'R' is Release, 'M' is modification level and x is a minor change
> (usually not done). I believe the policy is deprecate in a modification
> level and remove 2 levels later. We'd be leaving things in a long time
> if we waited two versions.
>
> They were deprecated in 2.1.5.1. To me, the policy means they can be
> removed in 2.1.7.
> I don't recall what we said about changes across releases, but it seems
> reasonable to me that if they were deprecated in 2.1.5 that, at least at
> this point, they could be removed in 2.2.0.
I would probably leave them in in 2.1 series, but +1 for removing in 2.2. Time
for a vote?
Vadim
Re: Woody and portal-fw in 2.2?
Posted by Ralph Goers <Ra...@dslextreme.com>.
Antonio Gallardo wrote:
>Ralph Goers dijo:
>
>
>>Why are these blocks even in 2.2? They are excluded from the build but
>>they are deprecated in 2.1 and have replacements.
>>
>>Can they be removed?
>>
>>
>
>It depends, the "politic" is: deprecate and 2 version later remove them.
>
>Best Regards,
>
>
I think we need to clarify (or maybe just I do). The way I am used to
looking at product numbering you have V.R.M.x where 'V' is the version,
'R' is Release, 'M' is modification level and x is a minor change
(usually not done). I believe the policy is deprecate in a modification
level and remove 2 levels later. We'd be leaving things in a long time
if we waited two versions.
They were deprecated in 2.1.5.1. To me, the policy means they can be
removed in 2.1.7.
I don't recall what we said about changes across releases, but it seems
reasonable to me that if they were deprecated in 2.1.5 that, at least at
this point, they could be removed in 2.2.0.
Ralph
Re: Woody and portal-fw in 2.2?
Posted by Antonio Gallardo <ag...@agssa.net>.
Ralph Goers dijo:
> Why are these blocks even in 2.2? They are excluded from the build but
> they are deprecated in 2.1 and have replacements.
>
> Can they be removed?
It depends, the "politic" is: deprecate and 2 version later remove them.
Best Regards,
Antonio Gallardo