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Posted to users@cloudstack.apache.org by "Musayev, Ilya" <im...@webmd.net> on 2012/11/14 22:00:14 UTC

Public Network and Shared Network Mode

Do I really need a Public Network if I'm using a shared network offering? Reason why I am asking, is that public network is presented in Add Zone wizard when you choose Advanced Network setup and there is no way to delete it.. (that I know off).

It would make sense to have Public Network when you use Isolated mode (like AWS), but since I'm using shared - I see no point. Plus, once I got my Advanced Network Mode to function as expected, I don't see CS allocating any Public IP addresses, only Guest..

Please confirm,

Thanks

Re: Public Network and Shared Network Mode

Posted by "Jim L." <ji...@pobox.com>.
Thank you for doing this.  It is already helpful.

--Jim Leary


On Wed, Nov 14, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Musayev, Ilya <im...@webmd.net> wrote:

> Yep.. just was not sure if its needed...
>
> I started documenting advanced network setup for CS4... If you don’t mind,
> please keep me honest.. :)
>
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/CloudStack+Advanced+Network+Tutorial+-+Step+by+Step
>
>

RE: Public Network and Shared Network Mode

Posted by "Musayev, Ilya" <im...@webmd.net>.
Yep.. just was not sure if its needed...

I started documenting advanced network setup for CS4... If you don’t mind, please keep me honest.. :)

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/CloudStack+Advanced+Network+Tutorial+-+Step+by+Step


-----Original Message-----
From: Geoff Higginbottom [mailto:geoff.higginbottom@shapeblue.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 4:36 PM
To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: Public Network and Shared Network Mode

You can use the API to deploy your Zone rather than rely on the wizard, then you can simply leave out the Public Network elements.

As you already have it deployed, simply use the 'DeleteTrafficType' API command to remove the Public network from the Physical Network it is assigned to

You will need to use the 'ListTrafficTypes' command to obtain the ID of the Public Network.

Regards

Geoff


-----Original Message-----
From: Musayev, Ilya [mailto:imusayev@webmd.net]
Sent: 14 November 2012 21:00
To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Public Network and Shared Network Mode

Do I really need a Public Network if I'm using a shared network offering? Reason why I am asking, is that public network is presented in Add Zone wizard when you choose Advanced Network setup and there is no way to delete it.. (that I know off).

It would make sense to have Public Network when you use Isolated mode (like AWS), but since I'm using shared - I see no point. Plus, once I got my Advanced Network Mode to function as expected, I don't see CS allocating any Public IP addresses, only Guest..

Please confirm,

Thanks
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RE: Public Network and Shared Network Mode

Posted by Geoff Higginbottom <ge...@shapeblue.com>.
You can use the API to deploy your Zone rather than rely on the wizard, then you can simply leave out the Public Network elements.

As you already have it deployed, simply use the 'DeleteTrafficType' API command to remove the Public network from the Physical Network it is assigned to

You will need to use the 'ListTrafficTypes' command to obtain the ID of the Public Network.

Regards

Geoff


-----Original Message-----
From: Musayev, Ilya [mailto:imusayev@webmd.net]
Sent: 14 November 2012 21:00
To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Public Network and Shared Network Mode

Do I really need a Public Network if I'm using a shared network offering? Reason why I am asking, is that public network is presented in Add Zone wizard when you choose Advanced Network setup and there is no way to delete it.. (that I know off).

It would make sense to have Public Network when you use Isolated mode (like AWS), but since I'm using shared - I see no point. Plus, once I got my Advanced Network Mode to function as expected, I don't see CS allocating any Public IP addresses, only Guest..

Please confirm,

Thanks
ShapeBlue provides a range of strategic and technical consulting and implementation services to help IT Service Providers and Enterprises to build a true IaaS compute cloud. ShapeBlue’s expertise, combined with CloudStack technology, allows IT Service Providers and Enterprises to deliver true, utility based, IaaS to the customer or end-user.

________________________________

This email and any attachments to it may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of the individual to whom it is addressed. Any views or opinions expressed are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Shape Blue Ltd. If you are not the intended recipient of this email, you must neither take any action based upon its contents, nor copy or show it to anyone. Please contact the sender if you believe you have received this email in error. Shape Blue Ltd is a company incorporated in England & Wales.

Re: Public Network and Shared Network Mode

Posted by Alena Prokharchyk <Al...@citrix.com>.
The document looks good. I would recommend to add a couple of screen shots showing how you configure network hypervisor labels from AddZone->SetupNetwork as you have multiple physical networks.

-Alena.

From: <Musayev>, Ilya <im...@webmd.net>>
Reply-To: "'cloudstack-users@incubator. org'" <cl...@incubator.apache.org>>
To: "'cloudstack-users@incubator. org'" <cl...@incubator.apache.org>>
Subject: RE: Public Network and Shared Network Mode

That explains why I have 2 out of 50 used :)

So I can define a smaller subset then..

Like mentioned before, please keep me honest on the documenting my setup here https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/CloudStack+Advanced+Network+Tutorial+-+Step+by+Step


-----Original Message-----
From: Alena Prokharchyk [mailto:Alena.Prokharchyk@citrix.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 4:40 PM
To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org<ma...@incubator.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Public Network and Shared Network Mode

You do. System vms - Console proxy and Secondary storage - will have interface in this network. You'll see public ips allocated for those instances.

-Alena.

From: <Musayev>, Ilya <im...@webmd.net>>
Reply-To: "'cloudstack-users@incubator. org'" <cl...@incubator.apache.org>>
To: "'cloudstack-users@incubator. org'" <cl...@incubator.apache.org>>
Subject: Public Network and Shared Network Mode

Do I really need a Public Network if I'm using a shared network offering? Reason why I am asking, is that public network is presented in Add Zone wizard when you choose Advanced Network setup and there is no way to delete it.. (that I know off).

It would make sense to have Public Network when you use Isolated mode (like AWS), but since I'm using shared - I see no point. Plus, once I got my Advanced Network Mode to function as expected, I don't see CS allocating any Public IP addresses, only Guest..

Please confirm,

Thanks

RE: Public Network and Shared Network Mode

Posted by "Musayev, Ilya" <im...@webmd.net>.
That explains why I have 2 out of 50 used :)

So I can define a smaller subset then..

Like mentioned before, please keep me honest on the documenting my setup here https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/CLOUDSTACK/CloudStack+Advanced+Network+Tutorial+-+Step+by+Step


-----Original Message-----
From: Alena Prokharchyk [mailto:Alena.Prokharchyk@citrix.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, November 14, 2012 4:40 PM
To: cloudstack-users@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Public Network and Shared Network Mode

You do. System vms - Console proxy and Secondary storage - will have interface in this network. You'll see public ips allocated for those instances.

-Alena.

From: <Musayev>, Ilya <im...@webmd.net>>
Reply-To: "'cloudstack-users@incubator. org'" <cl...@incubator.apache.org>>
To: "'cloudstack-users@incubator. org'" <cl...@incubator.apache.org>>
Subject: Public Network and Shared Network Mode

Do I really need a Public Network if I'm using a shared network offering? Reason why I am asking, is that public network is presented in Add Zone wizard when you choose Advanced Network setup and there is no way to delete it.. (that I know off).

It would make sense to have Public Network when you use Isolated mode (like AWS), but since I'm using shared - I see no point. Plus, once I got my Advanced Network Mode to function as expected, I don't see CS allocating any Public IP addresses, only Guest..

Please confirm,

Thanks

Re: Public Network and Shared Network Mode

Posted by Alena Prokharchyk <Al...@citrix.com>.
You do. System vms – Console proxy and Secondary storage – will have interface in this network. You'll see public ips allocated for those instances.

-Alena.

From: <Musayev>, Ilya <im...@webmd.net>>
Reply-To: "'cloudstack-users@incubator. org'" <cl...@incubator.apache.org>>
To: "'cloudstack-users@incubator. org'" <cl...@incubator.apache.org>>
Subject: Public Network and Shared Network Mode

Do I really need a Public Network if I'm using a shared network offering? Reason why I am asking, is that public network is presented in Add Zone wizard when you choose Advanced Network setup and there is no way to delete it.. (that I know off).

It would make sense to have Public Network when you use Isolated mode (like AWS), but since I'm using shared - I see no point. Plus, once I got my Advanced Network Mode to function as expected, I don't see CS allocating any Public IP addresses, only Guest..

Please confirm,

Thanks