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Posted to dev@ofbiz.apache.org by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com> on 2010/01/08 16:46:03 UTC
Message in (current) default theme
Hi,
When it was 1st created the Business Time theme (current default theme) used a time out for the message popup. After some time we
decided that this was not convenient because in certain occasions the message could not be read. Then we replaced the message popup
with time out by a popup which needs to be clicked on to disappear. But now that I use it in real life I find it boring, because any
time you create or edit something you need to validate the message. So I propose to change this behaviour and to have something like
we had before : it shows somewhere but you don't need to validate.
Of course using the Dropping Crumb theme as default theme is another way, but it would not fix the current behavior of the Business
Time theme.
What do you think?
Jacques
Re: Message in (current) default theme
Posted by Hans Bakker <ma...@antwebsystems.com>.
+1 for moving he screen down to make space as in the old scheme......
On Fri, 2010-01-08 at 11:36 -0600, David E Jones wrote:
> On Jan 8, 2010, at 11:31 AM, Adam Heath wrote:
>
> > Adrian Crum wrote:
> >> +1
> >>
> >> Bilgin Ibryam wrote:
> >>> What about having both versions together: the message will disappear
> >>> after sometime (as it was before) but you can still click on it for
> >>> faster closing?
> >>>
> >>> An improvement would be to add a [x] sign at the message corner, so
> >>> users guess that it can be clicked and closed.
> >
> > While we're on the subject, please add a way to see the message after
> > it goes away. Consider the case of a request taking a long time, so
> > the user changes focus to a new window. Then, when they come back,
> > the window gets clicked, and the message goes away, never to be seen
> > again.
> >
>
> This is why I like the "old" way better where the message pushes everything down instead of sitting on top and going away (especially automatically).
>
> The dropping crumbs theme also uses displacement instead of overlay and disappear, and IMO that's a plus to it.
>
> -David
>
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Re: Message in (current) default theme
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
From: "Rashko Rejmer" <rr...@iguanait.com>
> Hi Jacques,
>
> Sorry about the late reply, I am a little busy right now but I can
> give it a try at the end of the next week.
No worries, you are welcome Rashko
Thanks
Jacques
> Regards,
> Rashko Rejmer
>
> On 9 Jan 2010, at 01:51, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
>
>> Hi Rashko,
>>
>> This is interesting, and one point more than what I proposed intialy
>> (when we decided to simply remove the time out and replace it by a
>> popup with a clic).
>> Do you want to give it a try?
>>
>> Jacques
>>
>> From: "Rashko Rejmer" <rr...@iguanait.com>
>>> Maybe we can combine all the suggestions.
>>>
>>> Popup message will be shown and it will disappear after pre-set
>>> time. If you click on the popup it will disappear immediately.
>>> After the message is gone, small icon or sign will appear in the
>>> main window reminding you that an error have occurred and if you
>>> hadn't enough time to read it you can fire the popup message
>>> again. This time it will remain visible until you close it
>>> deliberately. This way you will have access to the massage all the
>>> time, until you refresh the screen(or perform another operation).
>>>
>>> Rashko Rejmer
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8 Jan 2010, at 19:36, David E Jones wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jan 8, 2010, at 11:31 AM, Adam Heath wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Adrian Crum wrote:
>>>>>> +1
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Bilgin Ibryam wrote:
>>>>>>> What about having both versions together: the message will
>>>>>>> disappear
>>>>>>> after sometime (as it was before) but you can still click on it
>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>> faster closing?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> An improvement would be to add a [x] sign at the message
>>>>>>> corner, so
>>>>>>> users guess that it can be clicked and closed.
>>>>>
>>>>> While we're on the subject, please add a way to see the message
>>>>> after
>>>>> it goes away. Consider the case of a request taking a long time,
>>>>> so
>>>>> the user changes focus to a new window. Then, when they come back,
>>>>> the window gets clicked, and the message goes away, never to be
>>>>> seen
>>>>> again.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> This is why I like the "old" way better where the message pushes
>>>> everything down instead of sitting on top and going away
>>>> (especially automatically).
>>>>
>>>> The dropping crumbs theme also uses displacement instead of
>>>> overlay and disappear, and IMO that's a plus to it.
>>>>
>>>> -David
>>>>
>>
>>
>
Re: Message in (current) default theme
Posted by Rashko Rejmer <rr...@iguanait.com>.
Hi Jacques,
Sorry about the late reply, I am a little busy right now but I can
give it a try at the end of the next week.
Regards,
Rashko Rejmer
On 9 Jan 2010, at 01:51, Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> Hi Rashko,
>
> This is interesting, and one point more than what I proposed intialy
> (when we decided to simply remove the time out and replace it by a
> popup with a clic).
> Do you want to give it a try?
>
> Jacques
>
> From: "Rashko Rejmer" <rr...@iguanait.com>
>> Maybe we can combine all the suggestions.
>>
>> Popup message will be shown and it will disappear after pre-set
>> time. If you click on the popup it will disappear immediately.
>> After the message is gone, small icon or sign will appear in the
>> main window reminding you that an error have occurred and if you
>> hadn't enough time to read it you can fire the popup message
>> again. This time it will remain visible until you close it
>> deliberately. This way you will have access to the massage all the
>> time, until you refresh the screen(or perform another operation).
>>
>> Rashko Rejmer
>>
>>
>> On 8 Jan 2010, at 19:36, David E Jones wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> On Jan 8, 2010, at 11:31 AM, Adam Heath wrote:
>>>
>>>> Adrian Crum wrote:
>>>>> +1
>>>>>
>>>>> Bilgin Ibryam wrote:
>>>>>> What about having both versions together: the message will
>>>>>> disappear
>>>>>> after sometime (as it was before) but you can still click on it
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> faster closing?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> An improvement would be to add a [x] sign at the message
>>>>>> corner, so
>>>>>> users guess that it can be clicked and closed.
>>>>
>>>> While we're on the subject, please add a way to see the message
>>>> after
>>>> it goes away. Consider the case of a request taking a long time,
>>>> so
>>>> the user changes focus to a new window. Then, when they come back,
>>>> the window gets clicked, and the message goes away, never to be
>>>> seen
>>>> again.
>>>>
>>>
>>> This is why I like the "old" way better where the message pushes
>>> everything down instead of sitting on top and going away
>>> (especially automatically).
>>>
>>> The dropping crumbs theme also uses displacement instead of
>>> overlay and disappear, and IMO that's a plus to it.
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>
>
Re: Message in (current) default theme
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
Hi Rashko,
This is interesting, and one point more than what I proposed intialy (when we decided to simply remove the time out and replace it
by a popup with a clic).
Do you want to give it a try?
Jacques
From: "Rashko Rejmer" <rr...@iguanait.com>
> Maybe we can combine all the suggestions.
>
> Popup message will be shown and it will disappear after pre-set time. If you click on the popup it will disappear immediately.
> After the message is gone, small icon or sign will appear in the main window reminding you that an error have occurred and if
> you hadn't enough time to read it you can fire the popup message again. This time it will remain visible until you close it
> deliberately. This way you will have access to the massage all the time, until you refresh the screen(or perform another
> operation).
>
> Rashko Rejmer
>
>
> On 8 Jan 2010, at 19:36, David E Jones wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jan 8, 2010, at 11:31 AM, Adam Heath wrote:
>>
>>> Adrian Crum wrote:
>>>> +1
>>>>
>>>> Bilgin Ibryam wrote:
>>>>> What about having both versions together: the message will disappear
>>>>> after sometime (as it was before) but you can still click on it for
>>>>> faster closing?
>>>>>
>>>>> An improvement would be to add a [x] sign at the message corner, so
>>>>> users guess that it can be clicked and closed.
>>>
>>> While we're on the subject, please add a way to see the message after
>>> it goes away. Consider the case of a request taking a long time, so
>>> the user changes focus to a new window. Then, when they come back,
>>> the window gets clicked, and the message goes away, never to be seen
>>> again.
>>>
>>
>> This is why I like the "old" way better where the message pushes everything down instead of sitting on top and going away
>> (especially automatically).
>>
>> The dropping crumbs theme also uses displacement instead of overlay and disappear, and IMO that's a plus to it.
>>
>> -David
>>
>
Re: Message in (current) default theme
Posted by Rashko Rejmer <rr...@iguanait.com>.
Maybe we can combine all the suggestions.
Popup message will be shown and it will disappear after pre-set time.
If you click on the popup it will disappear immediately. After the
message is gone, small icon or sign will appear in the main window
reminding you that an error have occurred and if you hadn't enough
time to read it you can fire the popup message again. This time it
will remain visible until you close it deliberately. This way you will
have access to the massage all the time, until you refresh the
screen(or perform another operation).
Rashko Rejmer
On 8 Jan 2010, at 19:36, David E Jones wrote:
>
> On Jan 8, 2010, at 11:31 AM, Adam Heath wrote:
>
>> Adrian Crum wrote:
>>> +1
>>>
>>> Bilgin Ibryam wrote:
>>>> What about having both versions together: the message will
>>>> disappear
>>>> after sometime (as it was before) but you can still click on it for
>>>> faster closing?
>>>>
>>>> An improvement would be to add a [x] sign at the message corner,
>>>> so
>>>> users guess that it can be clicked and closed.
>>
>> While we're on the subject, please add a way to see the message after
>> it goes away. Consider the case of a request taking a long time, so
>> the user changes focus to a new window. Then, when they come back,
>> the window gets clicked, and the message goes away, never to be seen
>> again.
>>
>
> This is why I like the "old" way better where the message pushes
> everything down instead of sitting on top and going away (especially
> automatically).
>
> The dropping crumbs theme also uses displacement instead of overlay
> and disappear, and IMO that's a plus to it.
>
> -David
>
Re: Message in (current) default theme
Posted by David E Jones <de...@me.com>.
On Jan 8, 2010, at 11:31 AM, Adam Heath wrote:
> Adrian Crum wrote:
>> +1
>>
>> Bilgin Ibryam wrote:
>>> What about having both versions together: the message will disappear
>>> after sometime (as it was before) but you can still click on it for
>>> faster closing?
>>>
>>> An improvement would be to add a [x] sign at the message corner, so
>>> users guess that it can be clicked and closed.
>
> While we're on the subject, please add a way to see the message after
> it goes away. Consider the case of a request taking a long time, so
> the user changes focus to a new window. Then, when they come back,
> the window gets clicked, and the message goes away, never to be seen
> again.
>
This is why I like the "old" way better where the message pushes everything down instead of sitting on top and going away (especially automatically).
The dropping crumbs theme also uses displacement instead of overlay and disappear, and IMO that's a plus to it.
-David
Re: Message in (current) default theme
Posted by Adam Heath <do...@brainfood.com>.
Adrian Crum wrote:
> +1
>
> Bilgin Ibryam wrote:
>> What about having both versions together: the message will disappear
>> after sometime (as it was before) but you can still click on it for
>> faster closing?
>>
>> An improvement would be to add a [x] sign at the message corner, so
>> users guess that it can be clicked and closed.
While we're on the subject, please add a way to see the message after
it goes away. Consider the case of a request taking a long time, so
the user changes focus to a new window. Then, when they come back,
the window gets clicked, and the message goes away, never to be seen
again.
Re: Message in (current) default theme
Posted by Adrian Crum <ad...@hlmksw.com>.
+1
Bilgin Ibryam wrote:
> What about having both versions together: the message will disappear
> after sometime (as it was before) but you can still click on it for
> faster closing?
>
> An improvement would be to add a [x] sign at the message corner, so
> users guess that it can be clicked and closed.
Re: Message in (current) default theme
Posted by Bilgin Ibryam <bi...@gmail.com>.
Jacques Le Roux wrote:
> Hi,
>
> When it was 1st created the Business Time theme (current default
> theme) used a time out for the message popup. After some time we
> decided that this was not convenient because in certain occasions the
> message could not be read. Then we replaced the message popup
> with time out by a popup which needs to be clicked on to disappear.
> But now that I use it in real life I find it boring, because any
> time you create or edit something you need to validate the message. So
> I propose to change this behaviour and to have something like
> we had before : it shows somewhere but you don't need to validate.
>
> Of course using the Dropping Crumb theme as default theme is another
> way, but it would not fix the current behavior of the Business
> Time theme.
>
> What do you think?
>
> Jacques
>
>
What about having both versions together: the message will disappear
after sometime (as it was before) but you can still click on it for
faster closing?
An improvement would be to add a [x] sign at the message corner, so
users guess that it can be clicked and closed.
Having old version back has a drawback: users might not be able to read
the message before it disappears automatically.
Bilgin