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Posted to general@incubator.apache.org by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org> on 2015/11/02 19:00:40 UTC
Re: [Result][VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator
Sorry, I missed this email.
No, votes don't automatically convert, at least not in my case.
After my vote was added, there was a release vote of Kylin which raised new
licensing issues. I wouldn't expect a graduating podling to still have
licensing issues.
John
On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 8:38 PM Luke Han <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi John,
> Thank you to remind and I'm sorry I was count votes only
> based on my understanding, per previous discussion and your
> comments in vote thread about SGA [1], as a programmer,
> I was thinking:
> if ( SGA == confirmed) {
> John's Vote = +1
> } else {
> John's Vote = -1
> }
>
> that's why I count your vote to +1 since the SGA is confirmed
> and the status file has been updated (2015-10-17, for the copyright).
>
> For the date you mentioned here (2015-06-10, for license), it's
> updated during the first apache release [2] [3], added Apache
> license header to all source files, cleaned up any GPL or other
> one and updated LICENSE, NOTICE and other files. The majority
> efforts happened during that time for license and copyright. That's
> why I would like to continue to keep that date.
> For v1.1 release, the situation already has been clarified
> and LICENSE files has been updated [4].
>
> Would you mind to continue count your vote as +1 as my original
> "brain computing logical":)
>
>
> *[1]:*
>
>
> *Thanks Luke. If you can get a reference out to people and have
> thekylin.xml updated to reflect the date, I'd be happy to add a +1
> butotherwise its -1 for me for now.*
> *[2]: **https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-669
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-669>*
> *[3]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-715
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-715>*
> *[4]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-999
> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-999>*
>
>
> Best Regards!
> ---------------------
>
> Luke Han
>
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 7:53 AM, John D. Ament <jo...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Ted,
> >
> > After catching up on email, I see the SGA was now processed.
> >
> > I am concerned though after looking at their latest release vote that
> we're
> > still missing a few things related to "Verify distribution rights." It's
> > not enough for me to say that they're far off, but after seeing the
> issues
> > related to both SGA and license/header declarations I can't say that I
> can
> > give the podling a warm +1 on their graduation. Note that per the
> > podling's status page they completed these steps on 2015-06-10.
> >
> > John
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 7:36 PM Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > John,
> > >
> > > Was this issue not rectified to your satisfaction?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 10:15 AM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi Luke,
> > > >
> > > > Actually I voted -1 due to your open SGA issues.
> > > > On Oct 22, 2015 11:24 PM, "Luke Han" <lu...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The vote for Apache Kylin to become a top-level project has passed
> > > > > with 27 +1 votes and no 0 or -1 votes.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thank you everyone for taking the time to review and cast your
> vote.
> > > > >
> > > > > We will now prepare a resolution for the next Board meeting.
> > > > >
> > > > > 10 binding:
> > > > > * Henry Saputra
> > > > > * Andrew Purtell
> > > > > * Bertrand Delacretaz
> > > > > * Julian Hyde
> > > > > * P. Taylor Goetz
> > > > > * Ted Dunning
> > > > > * Edward J. Yoon
> > > > > * Alexander Bezzubov
> > > > > * John D. Ament
> > > > > * Owen O'Malley
> > > > >
> > > > > 17 non-binding:
> > > > > * Luke Han
> > > > > * Shaofeng Shi
> > > > > * Jason Zhong
> > > > > * Qianhao Zhou
> > > > > * Dong Li
> > > > > * Droopy Hu
> > > > > * Xiaoyong Bai (lostitle)
> > > > > * Qi Liu (Goroutine)
> > > > > * Yerui Sun
> > > > > * Xu Jiang
> > > > > * Debashis Saha
> > > > > * Yang Li
> > > > > * Chad Chun
> > > > > * Atri Sharma
> > > > > * Hao Chen
> > > > > * Eddy Cai
> > > > > * Naresh Agarwal
> > > > >
> > > > > Luke
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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Re: [Result][VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator
Posted by Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>.
Good catch, thanks for clarifying.
On Tuesday, November 3, 2015, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
> I’d like to clarify one thing. I believe that the licensing issue [1] was
> fixed in release 1.1-incubating.
>
> Issues were raised during the 1.1 release vote, and the vote may have had
> some procedural problems, and release 1.0 had the aforementioned problem,
> but release 1.1 is sound.
>
> Julian
>
> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-999
>
> > On Nov 3, 2015, at 2:38 PM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org
> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> >
> > Sure, to reiterate comments made in other threads.
> >
> > The issue started with a missing SGA. The SGA missing was problematic
> for
> > a few reasons:
> >
> > - The discussion thread was started without all required pre-steps
> resolved.
> > - The vote thread was started before the SGA was submitted to the
> secretary.
> >
> > In the meanwhile, a release vote was started for Kylin where supposedly
> > previously fixed licensing issues were found to not be resolved. In that
> > case, it was noted that the issue was raised before, the JIRA marked as
> > resolved, however the issue wasn't actually resolved. From there, it
> seems
> > that pressure was put on the IPMC member who had voted -1 to change his
> > vote. From my point of view, a graduating podling shouldn't have
> licensing
> > issues in releases, due to the risks that it raises. It seems odd to me
> > that two major licensing problems came up so quickly for this one
> podling.
> >
> > At this point, licensing issues to me do block the graduation of Kylin.
> It
> > can be resolved with a new release vote that fixes the licensing issue
> and
> > I'll happy vote +1 if all licensing problems are resolved. I would
> > encourage the mentors to closely compare Kylin to the recently proposed
> > maturity model and see if there are any gaps.
> >
> > John
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 2:27 PM Marvin Humphrey <marvin@rectangular.com
> <javascript:;>>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 5:06 PM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org
> <javascript:;>>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> At this point, I'd request that my vote remain listed as -1 on the
> board
> >>> resolution.
> >>
> >> A -1 on a graduation resolution is significant. While a -1 on a release
> >> VOTE
> >> does not block the release, a -1 on a VOTE like graduation, entry into
> the
> >> incubator, policy change, etc, ordinarily blocks progress.
> >>
> >> We handle things this way at Apache because consensus decision keeps
> >> communities together. When issues are decided by majority rule, the
> >> minority's opinions can be disregarded -- and the losing faction ends up
> >> isolated. In contrast, when issues are decided by consensus, the
> majority
> >> has
> >> to go the extra mile to consider the opinions of the minority and
> possibly
> >> adjust their proposals.
> >>
> >> So it would be helpful if you would please clarify whether you intend to
> >> block
> >> Kylin's graduation this month. If not, please consider changing your
> >> position
> >> to -0 on graduation. On the other hand, if you do intend to block
> >> graduation,
> >> please indicate what could persuade you to change your position.
> >>
> >> Marvin Humphrey
> >>
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Re: [Result][VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator
Posted by Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>.
+1 for doing v1.1.1 to avoid re-use release version.
- Henry
On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 5:54 PM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Luke Han <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> To
>> keep things simple, the new release will continue mark as v1.1 since
>> there's no much code changes.
>
> The release will have a significant difference in content. Giving a
> distinct release an identical release number will not simplify things!
> I suggest you call it 1.1.1 or something.
>
> Julian
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Re: [Result][VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator
Posted by Luke Han <lu...@gmail.com>.
Thanks John. really happy to have your +1 vote :)
Best Regards!
---------------------
Luke Han
On Thu, Nov 12, 2015 at 7:45 AM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
wrote:
> Looks good to me, consider my vote a +1 after seeing a good release.
>
> John
>
> On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 4:53 AM Luke Han <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > 1. v1.1.1-incubating release vote result link: http://s.apache.org/Zps
> >
> >
> >
> > Best Regards!
> > ---------------------
> >
> > Luke Han
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 5:52 PM, Luke Han <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi all,
> > > Apache Kylin's new release, v1.1.1-incubating, has been rolled out
> > > with KYLIN-999 fixed [1].
> > > Could you please help to check again and convert your -1 vote for
> > the
> > > graduation if possible.
> > >
> > > Really appreciated for your guide and help.
> > >
> > > Thanks.
> > > Luke
> > >
> > >
> > > Best Regards!
> > > ---------------------
> > >
> > > Luke Han
> > >
> > > On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 10:23 PM, Luke Han <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi there,
> > >> The new release (v1.1.1) already rolled out in IPMC for vote now
> > [1].
> > >>
> > >> The release vote in IPMC will send out later once vote pass in
> PPMC,
> > >> but it will perfect if someone could help to double check and test
> this
> > >> release if possible in advance. Just want to make sure such concern
> and
> > >> issue already be fixed in this release.
> > >>
> > >> Thank you very much.
> > >>
> > >> Luke
> > >>
> > >> [1]. *http://s.apache.org/kV2 <http://s.apache.org/kV2>*
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Best Regards!
> > >> ---------------------
> > >>
> > >> Luke Han
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Luke Han <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> The merge will happen after release, but we could apply this patch
> > first
> > >>> if community has concern about this.
> > >>>
> > >>> Thanks.
> > >>>
> > >>> Regards!
> > >>> Luke Han
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 7:57 PM -0800, "John D. Ament" <
> > >>> johndament@apache.org> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> That's a good way to fix it. Do you merge your release branches back
> to
> > >>>> master/next develop?
> > >>>> On Nov 3, 2015 22:04, "Luke Han" wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> > Anyway, removed such reference in Kylin's code, there's no more
> > Google
> > >>>> > Fonts or Adobe Fonts now.
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > Please help to check:
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kylin/commit/a2fa3e8e93765bf3db39f5da935aca3a588789f1
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > Thanks.
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > Best Regards!
> > >>>> > ---------------------
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > Luke Han
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 10:56 AM, Justin Mclean
> > >>>> > wrote:
> > >>>> >
> > >>>> > > Hi,
> > >>>> > >
> > >>>> > > > The referenced font is SIL OFL 1.1
> > >>>> > > >
> http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&id=OFL
> > >>>> > > >
> > >>>> > > > You're not technically bundling the font, but referencing it
> > via URL.
> > >>>> > > It's
> > >>>> > > > a good question for legal.
> > >>>> > >
> > >>>> > > The fonts are actually being bundled as well. [1] It just not
> > obvious
> > >>>> > from
> > >>>> > > their names.
> > >>>> > >
> > >>>> > > Thanks,
> > >>>> > > Justin
> > >>>> > >
> > >>>> > > 1.
> > >>>> > >
> > >>>> >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kylin/tree/1.x-staging/webapp/app/fonts
> > >>>> > >
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> > >>>>
> > >>
> > >
> >
>
Re: [Result][VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.
Looks good to me, consider my vote a +1 after seeing a good release.
John
On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 4:53 AM Luke Han <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 1. v1.1.1-incubating release vote result link: http://s.apache.org/Zps
>
>
>
> Best Regards!
> ---------------------
>
> Luke Han
>
> On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 5:52 PM, Luke Han <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> > Apache Kylin's new release, v1.1.1-incubating, has been rolled out
> > with KYLIN-999 fixed [1].
> > Could you please help to check again and convert your -1 vote for
> the
> > graduation if possible.
> >
> > Really appreciated for your guide and help.
> >
> > Thanks.
> > Luke
> >
> >
> > Best Regards!
> > ---------------------
> >
> > Luke Han
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 10:23 PM, Luke Han <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi there,
> >> The new release (v1.1.1) already rolled out in IPMC for vote now
> [1].
> >>
> >> The release vote in IPMC will send out later once vote pass in PPMC,
> >> but it will perfect if someone could help to double check and test this
> >> release if possible in advance. Just want to make sure such concern and
> >> issue already be fixed in this release.
> >>
> >> Thank you very much.
> >>
> >> Luke
> >>
> >> [1]. *http://s.apache.org/kV2 <http://s.apache.org/kV2>*
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Best Regards!
> >> ---------------------
> >>
> >> Luke Han
> >>
> >> On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Luke Han <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> The merge will happen after release, but we could apply this patch
> first
> >>> if community has concern about this.
> >>>
> >>> Thanks.
> >>>
> >>> Regards!
> >>> Luke Han
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 7:57 PM -0800, "John D. Ament" <
> >>> johndament@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> That's a good way to fix it. Do you merge your release branches back to
> >>>> master/next develop?
> >>>> On Nov 3, 2015 22:04, "Luke Han" wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> > Anyway, removed such reference in Kylin's code, there's no more
> Google
> >>>> > Fonts or Adobe Fonts now.
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Please help to check:
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kylin/commit/a2fa3e8e93765bf3db39f5da935aca3a588789f1
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Thanks.
> >>>> >
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Best Regards!
> >>>> > ---------------------
> >>>> >
> >>>> > Luke Han
> >>>> >
> >>>> > On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 10:56 AM, Justin Mclean
> >>>> > wrote:
> >>>> >
> >>>> > > Hi,
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > > The referenced font is SIL OFL 1.1
> >>>> > > > http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&id=OFL
> >>>> > > >
> >>>> > > > You're not technically bundling the font, but referencing it
> via URL.
> >>>> > > It's
> >>>> > > > a good question for legal.
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > The fonts are actually being bundled as well. [1] It just not
> obvious
> >>>> > from
> >>>> > > their names.
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > Thanks,
> >>>> > > Justin
> >>>> > >
> >>>> > > 1.
> >>>> > >
> >>>> >
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kylin/tree/1.x-staging/webapp/app/fonts
> >>>> > >
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> >>>> > >
> >>>> > >
> >>>> >
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >
>
Re: [Result][VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator
Posted by Luke Han <lu...@gmail.com>.
1. v1.1.1-incubating release vote result link: http://s.apache.org/Zps
Best Regards!
---------------------
Luke Han
On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 5:52 PM, Luke Han <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
> Apache Kylin's new release, v1.1.1-incubating, has been rolled out
> with KYLIN-999 fixed [1].
> Could you please help to check again and convert your -1 vote for the
> graduation if possible.
>
> Really appreciated for your guide and help.
>
> Thanks.
> Luke
>
>
> Best Regards!
> ---------------------
>
> Luke Han
>
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 10:23 PM, Luke Han <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi there,
>> The new release (v1.1.1) already rolled out in IPMC for vote now [1].
>>
>> The release vote in IPMC will send out later once vote pass in PPMC,
>> but it will perfect if someone could help to double check and test this
>> release if possible in advance. Just want to make sure such concern and
>> issue already be fixed in this release.
>>
>> Thank you very much.
>>
>> Luke
>>
>> [1]. *http://s.apache.org/kV2 <http://s.apache.org/kV2>*
>>
>>
>>
>> Best Regards!
>> ---------------------
>>
>> Luke Han
>>
>> On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Luke Han <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> The merge will happen after release, but we could apply this patch first
>>> if community has concern about this.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Regards!
>>> Luke Han
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 7:57 PM -0800, "John D. Ament" <
>>> johndament@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> That's a good way to fix it. Do you merge your release branches back to
>>>> master/next develop?
>>>> On Nov 3, 2015 22:04, "Luke Han" wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Anyway, removed such reference in Kylin's code, there's no more Google
>>>> > Fonts or Adobe Fonts now.
>>>> >
>>>> > Please help to check:
>>>> >
>>>> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-kylin/commit/a2fa3e8e93765bf3db39f5da935aca3a588789f1
>>>> >
>>>> > Thanks.
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Best Regards!
>>>> > ---------------------
>>>> >
>>>> > Luke Han
>>>> >
>>>> > On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 10:56 AM, Justin Mclean
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > > Hi,
>>>> > >
>>>> > > > The referenced font is SIL OFL 1.1
>>>> > > > http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&id=OFL
>>>> > > >
>>>> > > > You're not technically bundling the font, but referencing it via URL.
>>>> > > It's
>>>> > > > a good question for legal.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > The fonts are actually being bundled as well. [1] It just not obvious
>>>> > from
>>>> > > their names.
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Thanks,
>>>> > > Justin
>>>> > >
>>>> > > 1.
>>>> > >
>>>> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-kylin/tree/1.x-staging/webapp/app/fonts
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>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>
Re: [Result][VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator
Posted by Luke Han <lu...@gmail.com>.
Hi all,
Apache Kylin's new release, v1.1.1-incubating, has been rolled out
with KYLIN-999 fixed [1].
Could you please help to check again and convert your -1 vote for the
graduation if possible.
Really appreciated for your guide and help.
Thanks.
Luke
Best Regards!
---------------------
Luke Han
On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 10:23 PM, Luke Han <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi there,
> The new release (v1.1.1) already rolled out in IPMC for vote now [1].
>
> The release vote in IPMC will send out later once vote pass in PPMC,
> but it will perfect if someone could help to double check and test this
> release if possible in advance. Just want to make sure such concern and
> issue already be fixed in this release.
>
> Thank you very much.
>
> Luke
>
> [1]. *http://s.apache.org/kV2 <http://s.apache.org/kV2>*
>
>
>
> Best Regards!
> ---------------------
>
> Luke Han
>
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Luke Han <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> The merge will happen after release, but we could apply this patch first
>> if community has concern about this.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Regards!
>> Luke Han
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 7:57 PM -0800, "John D. Ament" <
>> johndament@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> That's a good way to fix it. Do you merge your release branches back to
>>> master/next develop?
>>> On Nov 3, 2015 22:04, "Luke Han" wrote:
>>>
>>> > Anyway, removed such reference in Kylin's code, there's no more Google
>>> > Fonts or Adobe Fonts now.
>>> >
>>> > Please help to check:
>>> >
>>> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-kylin/commit/a2fa3e8e93765bf3db39f5da935aca3a588789f1
>>> >
>>> > Thanks.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Best Regards!
>>> > ---------------------
>>> >
>>> > Luke Han
>>> >
>>> > On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 10:56 AM, Justin Mclean
>>> > wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > Hi,
>>> > >
>>> > > > The referenced font is SIL OFL 1.1
>>> > > > http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&id=OFL
>>> > > >
>>> > > > You're not technically bundling the font, but referencing it via URL.
>>> > > It's
>>> > > > a good question for legal.
>>> > >
>>> > > The fonts are actually being bundled as well. [1] It just not obvious
>>> > from
>>> > > their names.
>>> > >
>>> > > Thanks,
>>> > > Justin
>>> > >
>>> > > 1.
>>> > >
>>> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-kylin/tree/1.x-staging/webapp/app/fonts
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Re: [Result][VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator
Posted by Luke Han <lu...@gmail.com>.
Hi there,
The new release (v1.1.1) already rolled out in IPMC for vote now [1].
The release vote in IPMC will send out later once vote pass in PPMC,
but it will perfect if someone could help to double check and test this
release if possible in advance. Just want to make sure such concern and
issue already be fixed in this release.
Thank you very much.
Luke
[1]. *http://s.apache.org/kV2 <http://s.apache.org/kV2>*
Best Regards!
---------------------
Luke Han
On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Luke Han <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The merge will happen after release, but we could apply this patch first
> if community has concern about this.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Regards!
> Luke Han
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 7:57 PM -0800, "John D. Ament" <
> johndament@apache.org> wrote:
>
> That's a good way to fix it. Do you merge your release branches back to
>> master/next develop?
>> On Nov 3, 2015 22:04, "Luke Han" wrote:
>>
>> > Anyway, removed such reference in Kylin's code, there's no more Google
>> > Fonts or Adobe Fonts now.
>> >
>> > Please help to check:
>> >
>> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-kylin/commit/a2fa3e8e93765bf3db39f5da935aca3a588789f1
>> >
>> > Thanks.
>> >
>> >
>> > Best Regards!
>> > ---------------------
>> >
>> > Luke Han
>> >
>> > On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 10:56 AM, Justin Mclean
>> > wrote:
>> >
>> > > Hi,
>> > >
>> > > > The referenced font is SIL OFL 1.1
>> > > > http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&id=OFL
>> > > >
>> > > > You're not technically bundling the font, but referencing it via URL.
>> > > It's
>> > > > a good question for legal.
>> > >
>> > > The fonts are actually being bundled as well. [1] It just not obvious
>> > from
>> > > their names.
>> > >
>> > > Thanks,
>> > > Justin
>> > >
>> > > 1.
>> > >
>> > https://github.com/apache/incubator-kylin/tree/1.x-staging/webapp/app/fonts
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>> > >
>> >
>>
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Re: [Result][VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator
Posted by Luke Han <lu...@gmail.com>.
The merge will happen after release, but we could apply this patch first if community has concern about this.
Thanks.
Regards!
Luke Han
On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 7:57 PM -0800, "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
That's a good way to fix it. Do you merge your release branches back to
master/next develop?
On Nov 3, 2015 22:04, "Luke Han" wrote:
> Anyway, removed such reference in Kylin's code, there's no more Google
> Fonts or Adobe Fonts now.
>
> Please help to check:
>
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kylin/commit/a2fa3e8e93765bf3db39f5da935aca3a588789f1
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> Best Regards!
> ---------------------
>
> Luke Han
>
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 10:56 AM, Justin Mclean
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > > The referenced font is SIL OFL 1.1
> > > http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&id=OFL
> > >
> > > You're not technically bundling the font, but referencing it via URL.
> > It's
> > > a good question for legal.
> >
> > The fonts are actually being bundled as well. [1] It just not obvious
> from
> > their names.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Justin
> >
> > 1.
> >
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Re: [Result][VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.
That's a good way to fix it. Do you merge your release branches back to
master/next develop?
On Nov 3, 2015 22:04, "Luke Han" <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Anyway, removed such reference in Kylin's code, there's no more Google
> Fonts or Adobe Fonts now.
>
> Please help to check:
>
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kylin/commit/a2fa3e8e93765bf3db39f5da935aca3a588789f1
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> Best Regards!
> ---------------------
>
> Luke Han
>
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 10:56 AM, Justin Mclean <ju...@me.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > > The referenced font is SIL OFL 1.1
> > > http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&id=OFL
> > >
> > > You're not technically bundling the font, but referencing it via URL.
> > It's
> > > a good question for legal.
> >
> > The fonts are actually being bundled as well. [1] It just not obvious
> from
> > their names.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Justin
> >
> > 1.
> >
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> >
> >
>
Re: [Result][VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator
Posted by Luke Han <lu...@gmail.com>.
Anyway, removed such reference in Kylin's code, there's no more Google
Fonts or Adobe Fonts now.
Please help to check:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-kylin/commit/a2fa3e8e93765bf3db39f5da935aca3a588789f1
Thanks.
Best Regards!
---------------------
Luke Han
On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 10:56 AM, Justin Mclean <ju...@me.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> > The referenced font is SIL OFL 1.1
> > http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&id=OFL
> >
> > You're not technically bundling the font, but referencing it via URL.
> It's
> > a good question for legal.
>
> The fonts are actually being bundled as well. [1] It just not obvious from
> their names.
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
>
> 1.
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kylin/tree/1.x-staging/webapp/app/fonts
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Re: [Result][VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@me.com>.
Hi,
> The referenced font is SIL OFL 1.1
> http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&id=OFL
>
> You're not technically bundling the font, but referencing it via URL. It's
> a good question for legal.
The fonts are actually being bundled as well. [1] It just not obvious from their names.
Thanks,
Justin
1. https://github.com/apache/incubator-kylin/tree/1.x-staging/webapp/app/fonts
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Re: [Result][VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.
There's information about attribution from google fonts.
https://www.google.com/fonts/attribution
The referenced font is SIL OFL 1.1
http://scripts.sil.org/cms/scripts/page.php?site_id=nrsi&id=OFL
You're not technically bundling the font, but referencing it via URL. It's
a good question for legal.
On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 9:26 PM Luke Han <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> One more question: There's one line in AdminLTE (under MIT license)
> [1]: *@import
> url(
> https://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=Source+Sans+Pro:300,400,600,700,300italic,400italic,600italic
> <
> https://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=Source+Sans+Pro:300,400,600,700,300italic,400italic,600italic
> >);
> *
> Should any downstream (who using AdminLTE) also need add such stuff about
> Google Fonts and Adobe Fonts whatever use the font or not?
>
> Thanks.
>
> 1.
> https://github.com/almasaeed2010/AdminLTE/blob/master/dist/css/AdminLTE.css
>
>
>
> Best Regards!
> ---------------------
>
> Luke Han
>
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 9:59 AM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 8:54 PM Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Luke Han <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > To
> > > > keep things simple, the new release will continue mark as v1.1 since
> > > > there's no much code changes.
> > >
> > > The release will have a significant difference in content. Giving a
> > > distinct release an identical release number will not simplify things!
> > > I suggest you call it 1.1.1 or something.
> > >
> >
> > I agree, I don't see it explicitly called out in our release policy but I
> > would assume we cannot reuse release numbers.
> >
> > Julian, thank you very much for keeping an eye on this.
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Julian
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> >
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Re: [Result][VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator
Posted by Luke Han <lu...@gmail.com>.
One more question: There's one line in AdminLTE (under MIT license)
[1]: *@import
url(https://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=Source+Sans+Pro:300,400,600,700,300italic,400italic,600italic
<https://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=Source+Sans+Pro:300,400,600,700,300italic,400italic,600italic>);
*
Should any downstream (who using AdminLTE) also need add such stuff about
Google Fonts and Adobe Fonts whatever use the font or not?
Thanks.
1.
https://github.com/almasaeed2010/AdminLTE/blob/master/dist/css/AdminLTE.css
Best Regards!
---------------------
Luke Han
On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 9:59 AM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 8:54 PM Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Luke Han <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > To
> > > keep things simple, the new release will continue mark as v1.1 since
> > > there's no much code changes.
> >
> > The release will have a significant difference in content. Giving a
> > distinct release an identical release number will not simplify things!
> > I suggest you call it 1.1.1 or something.
> >
>
> I agree, I don't see it explicitly called out in our release policy but I
> would assume we cannot reuse release numbers.
>
> Julian, thank you very much for keeping an eye on this.
>
>
> >
> > Julian
> >
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Re: [Result][VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 8:54 PM Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Luke Han <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > To
> > keep things simple, the new release will continue mark as v1.1 since
> > there's no much code changes.
>
> The release will have a significant difference in content. Giving a
> distinct release an identical release number will not simplify things!
> I suggest you call it 1.1.1 or something.
>
I agree, I don't see it explicitly called out in our release policy but I
would assume we cannot reuse release numbers.
Julian, thank you very much for keeping an eye on this.
>
> Julian
>
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Re: [Result][VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator
Posted by Luke Han <lu...@gmail.com>.
Make sense, v1.1.1 is good one.
Will kickoff soon.
Thanks.
Best Regards!
---------------------
Luke Han
On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 9:54 AM, Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Luke Han <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > To
> > keep things simple, the new release will continue mark as v1.1 since
> > there's no much code changes.
>
> The release will have a significant difference in content. Giving a
> distinct release an identical release number will not simplify things!
> I suggest you call it 1.1.1 or something.
>
> Julian
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Re: [Result][VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator
Posted by Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 5:45 PM, Luke Han <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> To
> keep things simple, the new release will continue mark as v1.1 since
> there's no much code changes.
The release will have a significant difference in content. Giving a
distinct release an identical release number will not simplify things!
I suggest you call it 1.1.1 or something.
Julian
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Re: [Result][VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator
Posted by Luke Han <lu...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
The 1.x-staging branch is main development one for latest code base,
and the master branch is latest stable one which may delayed merge from the
development one, refer to the doc [1]:
** master: always point to the latest stable release (stable, but not
up to date)*
The KYLIN3-1095 [2] is opened try to updated the AdminLTE to latest
version and remove such google fonts.
A new release could be kicked off today with such commits for KYLIN-999
to make sure there's no such issue, and merge changes to all branches. To
keep things simple, the new release will continue mark as v1.1 since
there's no much code changes.
Please feel free to let's know your inputs and comments.
Thanks.
[1] http://kylin.incubator.apache.org/development/howto_contribute.html
[2]. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-1095
Best Regards!
---------------------
Luke Han
On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 8:23 AM, Justin Mclean <ju...@me.com> wrote:
> HI,
>
> Oddly in the 1.x-staging branch this has been done:
>
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kylin/commit/4e483dacd45933da90a3941e01991814430c684f
>
> I guess I didn’t explain clearly enough how the issue should be addressed,
> I’ll add the info to the JIRA.
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
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Re: [Result][VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator
Posted by Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org>.
I stand corrected.
I now agree that kylin-1.1-incubating has a licensing issue.
I must say, it did not help that KYLIN-999 was marked "fixed in 1.1"
and the innocuous-looking KYLIN-1095 opened in its place.
I think Kylin needs to have a clean release, with no licensing issues,
before graduation.
Julian
On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 4:23 PM, Justin Mclean <ju...@me.com> wrote:
> HI,
>
> Oddly in the 1.x-staging branch this has been done:
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kylin/commit/4e483dacd45933da90a3941e01991814430c684f
>
> I guess I didn’t explain clearly enough how the issue should be addressed, I’ll add the info to the JIRA.
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
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Re: [Result][VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@me.com>.
HI,
Oddly in the 1.x-staging branch this has been done:
https://github.com/apache/incubator-kylin/commit/4e483dacd45933da90a3941e01991814430c684f
I guess I didn’t explain clearly enough how the issue should be addressed, I’ll add the info to the JIRA.
Thanks,
Justin
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Re: [Result][VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.
Thanks Justin, I was going to respond similarly but wanted to get the mail
link as well.
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201510.mbox/%3C28A8C932-7B8D-492D-9934-389751E0CAFB%40classsoftware.com%3E
John
On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 7:06 PM Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>
wrote:
> HI,
>
> > I’d like to clarify one thing. I believe that the licensing issue [1]
> was fixed in release 1.1-incubating.
>
> It occurred and was fixed in an older release but then occurred again in
> the last incubating release and hasn’t been fixed yet. The old JIRA [1] was
> marks as resolved without making the required changes to the LICENSE file.
> This I think is the newly raised JIRA to fix the issue [2]. You can see
> that is issue is not currently fixed in 1.1 incubating [3] or the current
> branch. [4]
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
>
> 1. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-999
> 2. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-1095
> 3.
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kylin/blob/kylin-1.1-incubating/LICENSE
> 4. https://github.com/apache/incubator-kylin/blob/master/LICENSE
>
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Re: [Result][VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
HI,
> I’d like to clarify one thing. I believe that the licensing issue [1] was fixed in release 1.1-incubating.
It occurred and was fixed in an older release but then occurred again in the last incubating release and hasn’t been fixed yet. The old JIRA [1] was marks as resolved without making the required changes to the LICENSE file. This I think is the newly raised JIRA to fix the issue [2]. You can see that is issue is not currently fixed in 1.1 incubating [3] or the current branch. [4]
Thanks,
Justin
1. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-999
2. https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-1095
3. https://github.com/apache/incubator-kylin/blob/kylin-1.1-incubating/LICENSE
4. https://github.com/apache/incubator-kylin/blob/master/LICENSE
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Re: [Result][VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator
Posted by Julian Hyde <jh...@apache.org>.
I’d like to clarify one thing. I believe that the licensing issue [1] was fixed in release 1.1-incubating.
Issues were raised during the 1.1 release vote, and the vote may have had some procedural problems, and release 1.0 had the aforementioned problem, but release 1.1 is sound.
Julian
[1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-999
> On Nov 3, 2015, at 2:38 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Sure, to reiterate comments made in other threads.
>
> The issue started with a missing SGA. The SGA missing was problematic for
> a few reasons:
>
> - The discussion thread was started without all required pre-steps resolved.
> - The vote thread was started before the SGA was submitted to the secretary.
>
> In the meanwhile, a release vote was started for Kylin where supposedly
> previously fixed licensing issues were found to not be resolved. In that
> case, it was noted that the issue was raised before, the JIRA marked as
> resolved, however the issue wasn't actually resolved. From there, it seems
> that pressure was put on the IPMC member who had voted -1 to change his
> vote. From my point of view, a graduating podling shouldn't have licensing
> issues in releases, due to the risks that it raises. It seems odd to me
> that two major licensing problems came up so quickly for this one podling.
>
> At this point, licensing issues to me do block the graduation of Kylin. It
> can be resolved with a new release vote that fixes the licensing issue and
> I'll happy vote +1 if all licensing problems are resolved. I would
> encourage the mentors to closely compare Kylin to the recently proposed
> maturity model and see if there are any gaps.
>
> John
>
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 2:27 PM Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 5:06 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> At this point, I'd request that my vote remain listed as -1 on the board
>>> resolution.
>>
>> A -1 on a graduation resolution is significant. While a -1 on a release
>> VOTE
>> does not block the release, a -1 on a VOTE like graduation, entry into the
>> incubator, policy change, etc, ordinarily blocks progress.
>>
>> We handle things this way at Apache because consensus decision keeps
>> communities together. When issues are decided by majority rule, the
>> minority's opinions can be disregarded -- and the losing faction ends up
>> isolated. In contrast, when issues are decided by consensus, the majority
>> has
>> to go the extra mile to consider the opinions of the minority and possibly
>> adjust their proposals.
>>
>> So it would be helpful if you would please clarify whether you intend to
>> block
>> Kylin's graduation this month. If not, please consider changing your
>> position
>> to -0 on graduation. On the other hand, if you do intend to block
>> graduation,
>> please indicate what could persuade you to change your position.
>>
>> Marvin Humphrey
>>
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Re: [Result][VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.
Sure, to reiterate comments made in other threads.
The issue started with a missing SGA. The SGA missing was problematic for
a few reasons:
- The discussion thread was started without all required pre-steps resolved.
- The vote thread was started before the SGA was submitted to the secretary.
In the meanwhile, a release vote was started for Kylin where supposedly
previously fixed licensing issues were found to not be resolved. In that
case, it was noted that the issue was raised before, the JIRA marked as
resolved, however the issue wasn't actually resolved. From there, it seems
that pressure was put on the IPMC member who had voted -1 to change his
vote. From my point of view, a graduating podling shouldn't have licensing
issues in releases, due to the risks that it raises. It seems odd to me
that two major licensing problems came up so quickly for this one podling.
At this point, licensing issues to me do block the graduation of Kylin. It
can be resolved with a new release vote that fixes the licensing issue and
I'll happy vote +1 if all licensing problems are resolved. I would
encourage the mentors to closely compare Kylin to the recently proposed
maturity model and see if there are any gaps.
John
On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 2:27 PM Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>
wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 5:06 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > At this point, I'd request that my vote remain listed as -1 on the board
> > resolution.
>
> A -1 on a graduation resolution is significant. While a -1 on a release
> VOTE
> does not block the release, a -1 on a VOTE like graduation, entry into the
> incubator, policy change, etc, ordinarily blocks progress.
>
> We handle things this way at Apache because consensus decision keeps
> communities together. When issues are decided by majority rule, the
> minority's opinions can be disregarded -- and the losing faction ends up
> isolated. In contrast, when issues are decided by consensus, the majority
> has
> to go the extra mile to consider the opinions of the minority and possibly
> adjust their proposals.
>
> So it would be helpful if you would please clarify whether you intend to
> block
> Kylin's graduation this month. If not, please consider changing your
> position
> to -0 on graduation. On the other hand, if you do intend to block
> graduation,
> please indicate what could persuade you to change your position.
>
> Marvin Humphrey
>
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Re: [Result][VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator
Posted by Marvin Humphrey <ma...@rectangular.com>.
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 5:06 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> At this point, I'd request that my vote remain listed as -1 on the board
> resolution.
A -1 on a graduation resolution is significant. While a -1 on a release VOTE
does not block the release, a -1 on a VOTE like graduation, entry into the
incubator, policy change, etc, ordinarily blocks progress.
We handle things this way at Apache because consensus decision keeps
communities together. When issues are decided by majority rule, the
minority's opinions can be disregarded -- and the losing faction ends up
isolated. In contrast, when issues are decided by consensus, the majority has
to go the extra mile to consider the opinions of the minority and possibly
adjust their proposals.
So it would be helpful if you would please clarify whether you intend to block
Kylin's graduation this month. If not, please consider changing your position
to -0 on graduation. On the other hand, if you do intend to block graduation,
please indicate what could persuade you to change your position.
Marvin Humphrey
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Re: [Result][VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator
Posted by Luke Han <lu...@gmail.com>.
Hi John,
Will do and send to board with this adjustment.
Thank you very much.
Luke
Best Regards!
---------------------
Luke Han
On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 9:06 AM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi Luke,
>
> At this point, I'd request that my vote remain listed as -1 on the board
> resolution.
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
>
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 8:00 PM Luke Han <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi John,
> > In that case, how about to re-send the vote result to count your
> vote
> > to -1? Or would you like to change your mind?
> >
> > Back to the license discussion, it's already have been pointed out
> the
> > root cause and it's should not an issue now. Google Fonts has agreement
> > about that, AdminLTE has MIT license (as below) about that, such claim
> > already added into Apache Kylin's LICENSE on Apr 28, 2015 [1].
> > With discussion in release thread, such suggestion has been accepted
> > and added Google Fonts one too [2].
> >
> > So I would like to say that's what the podling needs to improve
> itself
> > (and already done) but not an "license issue".
> >
> > I'm so sorry to count your vote directly to +1 with my own
> assumption,
> > but really would like to ask you to considering again for this podling's
> > graduation status:)
> >
> > Thank you very much.
> >
> >
> > *--------*
> > *@import
> > url(
> >
> https://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=Source+Sans+Pro:300,400,600,700,300italic,400italic,600italic
> > <
> >
> https://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=Source+Sans+Pro:300,400,600,700,300italic,400italic,600italic
> > >);*
> > */*!*
> > * * AdminLTE v2.3.2*
> > * * Author: Almsaeed Studio*
> > * * Website: Almsaeed Studio <http://almsaeedstudio.com
> > <http://almsaeedstudio.com>>*
> > * * License: Open source - MIT*
> > * * Please visit http://opensource.org/licenses/MIT
> > <http://opensource.org/licenses/MIT> for more information*
> > *!*/*
> > */**
> > * * Core: General Layout Style*
> > * * -------------------------*
> > * */*
> >
> > [1]
> >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kylin/commit/0c8d7933df707e607537018c6c80a67523c74182
> > [2]
> >
> >
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kylin/commit/514fcf70997d78a20ed6a3f9b59d66e75980302c
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Best Regards!
> > ---------------------
> >
> > Luke Han
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 2:00 AM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Sorry, I missed this email.
> > >
> > > No, votes don't automatically convert, at least not in my case.
> > >
> > > After my vote was added, there was a release vote of Kylin which raised
> > new
> > > licensing issues. I wouldn't expect a graduating podling to still have
> > > licensing issues.
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > > On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 8:38 PM Luke Han <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi John,
> > > > Thank you to remind and I'm sorry I was count votes only
> > > > based on my understanding, per previous discussion and your
> > > > comments in vote thread about SGA [1], as a programmer,
> > > > I was thinking:
> > > > if ( SGA == confirmed) {
> > > > John's Vote = +1
> > > > } else {
> > > > John's Vote = -1
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > > that's why I count your vote to +1 since the SGA is confirmed
> > > > and the status file has been updated (2015-10-17, for the copyright).
> > > >
> > > > For the date you mentioned here (2015-06-10, for license), it's
> > > > updated during the first apache release [2] [3], added Apache
> > > > license header to all source files, cleaned up any GPL or other
> > > > one and updated LICENSE, NOTICE and other files. The majority
> > > > efforts happened during that time for license and copyright. That's
> > > > why I would like to continue to keep that date.
> > > > For v1.1 release, the situation already has been clarified
> > > > and LICENSE files has been updated [4].
> > > >
> > > > Would you mind to continue count your vote as +1 as my original
> > > > "brain computing logical":)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > *[1]:*
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > *Thanks Luke. If you can get a reference out to people and have
> > > > thekylin.xml updated to reflect the date, I'd be happy to add a +1
> > > > butotherwise its -1 for me for now.*
> > > > *[2]: **https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-669
> > > > <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-669>*
> > > > *[3]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-715
> > > > <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-715>*
> > > > *[4]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-999
> > > > <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-999>*
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Best Regards!
> > > > ---------------------
> > > >
> > > > Luke Han
> > > >
> > > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 7:53 AM, John D. Ament <
> john.d.ament@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Ted,
> > > > >
> > > > > After catching up on email, I see the SGA was now processed.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am concerned though after looking at their latest release vote
> that
> > > > we're
> > > > > still missing a few things related to "Verify distribution rights."
> > > It's
> > > > > not enough for me to say that they're far off, but after seeing the
> > > > issues
> > > > > related to both SGA and license/header declarations I can't say
> that
> > I
> > > > can
> > > > > give the podling a warm +1 on their graduation. Note that per the
> > > > > podling's status page they completed these steps on 2015-06-10.
> > > > >
> > > > > John
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 7:36 PM Ted Dunning <ted.dunning@gmail.com
> >
> > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > John,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Was this issue not rectified to your satisfaction?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 10:15 AM, John D. Ament <
> > > johndament@apache.org
> > > > >
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Luke,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Actually I voted -1 due to your open SGA issues.
> > > > > > > On Oct 22, 2015 11:24 PM, "Luke Han" <lu...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The vote for Apache Kylin to become a top-level project has
> > > passed
> > > > > > > > with 27 +1 votes and no 0 or -1 votes.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thank you everyone for taking the time to review and cast
> your
> > > > vote.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > We will now prepare a resolution for the next Board meeting.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 10 binding:
> > > > > > > > * Henry Saputra
> > > > > > > > * Andrew Purtell
> > > > > > > > * Bertrand Delacretaz
> > > > > > > > * Julian Hyde
> > > > > > > > * P. Taylor Goetz
> > > > > > > > * Ted Dunning
> > > > > > > > * Edward J. Yoon
> > > > > > > > * Alexander Bezzubov
> > > > > > > > * John D. Ament
> > > > > > > > * Owen O'Malley
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 17 non-binding:
> > > > > > > > * Luke Han
> > > > > > > > * Shaofeng Shi
> > > > > > > > * Jason Zhong
> > > > > > > > * Qianhao Zhou
> > > > > > > > * Dong Li
> > > > > > > > * Droopy Hu
> > > > > > > > * Xiaoyong Bai (lostitle)
> > > > > > > > * Qi Liu (Goroutine)
> > > > > > > > * Yerui Sun
> > > > > > > > * Xu Jiang
> > > > > > > > * Debashis Saha
> > > > > > > > * Yang Li
> > > > > > > > * Chad Chun
> > > > > > > > * Atri Sharma
> > > > > > > > * Hao Chen
> > > > > > > > * Eddy Cai
> > > > > > > > * Naresh Agarwal
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Luke
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Re: [Result][VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.
Hi Luke,
At this point, I'd request that my vote remain listed as -1 on the board
resolution.
Thanks,
John
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 8:00 PM Luke Han <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi John,
> In that case, how about to re-send the vote result to count your vote
> to -1? Or would you like to change your mind?
>
> Back to the license discussion, it's already have been pointed out the
> root cause and it's should not an issue now. Google Fonts has agreement
> about that, AdminLTE has MIT license (as below) about that, such claim
> already added into Apache Kylin's LICENSE on Apr 28, 2015 [1].
> With discussion in release thread, such suggestion has been accepted
> and added Google Fonts one too [2].
>
> So I would like to say that's what the podling needs to improve itself
> (and already done) but not an "license issue".
>
> I'm so sorry to count your vote directly to +1 with my own assumption,
> but really would like to ask you to considering again for this podling's
> graduation status:)
>
> Thank you very much.
>
>
> *--------*
> *@import
> url(
> https://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=Source+Sans+Pro:300,400,600,700,300italic,400italic,600italic
> <
> https://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=Source+Sans+Pro:300,400,600,700,300italic,400italic,600italic
> >);*
> */*!*
> * * AdminLTE v2.3.2*
> * * Author: Almsaeed Studio*
> * * Website: Almsaeed Studio <http://almsaeedstudio.com
> <http://almsaeedstudio.com>>*
> * * License: Open source - MIT*
> * * Please visit http://opensource.org/licenses/MIT
> <http://opensource.org/licenses/MIT> for more information*
> *!*/*
> */**
> * * Core: General Layout Style*
> * * -------------------------*
> * */*
>
> [1]
>
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kylin/commit/0c8d7933df707e607537018c6c80a67523c74182
> [2]
>
> https://github.com/apache/incubator-kylin/commit/514fcf70997d78a20ed6a3f9b59d66e75980302c
>
>
>
>
> Best Regards!
> ---------------------
>
> Luke Han
>
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 2:00 AM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Sorry, I missed this email.
> >
> > No, votes don't automatically convert, at least not in my case.
> >
> > After my vote was added, there was a release vote of Kylin which raised
> new
> > licensing issues. I wouldn't expect a graduating podling to still have
> > licensing issues.
> >
> > John
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 8:38 PM Luke Han <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi John,
> > > Thank you to remind and I'm sorry I was count votes only
> > > based on my understanding, per previous discussion and your
> > > comments in vote thread about SGA [1], as a programmer,
> > > I was thinking:
> > > if ( SGA == confirmed) {
> > > John's Vote = +1
> > > } else {
> > > John's Vote = -1
> > > }
> > >
> > > that's why I count your vote to +1 since the SGA is confirmed
> > > and the status file has been updated (2015-10-17, for the copyright).
> > >
> > > For the date you mentioned here (2015-06-10, for license), it's
> > > updated during the first apache release [2] [3], added Apache
> > > license header to all source files, cleaned up any GPL or other
> > > one and updated LICENSE, NOTICE and other files. The majority
> > > efforts happened during that time for license and copyright. That's
> > > why I would like to continue to keep that date.
> > > For v1.1 release, the situation already has been clarified
> > > and LICENSE files has been updated [4].
> > >
> > > Would you mind to continue count your vote as +1 as my original
> > > "brain computing logical":)
> > >
> > >
> > > *[1]:*
> > >
> > >
> > > *Thanks Luke. If you can get a reference out to people and have
> > > thekylin.xml updated to reflect the date, I'd be happy to add a +1
> > > butotherwise its -1 for me for now.*
> > > *[2]: **https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-669
> > > <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-669>*
> > > *[3]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-715
> > > <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-715>*
> > > *[4]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-999
> > > <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-999>*
> > >
> > >
> > > Best Regards!
> > > ---------------------
> > >
> > > Luke Han
> > >
> > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 7:53 AM, John D. Ament <john.d.ament@gmail.com
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Ted,
> > > >
> > > > After catching up on email, I see the SGA was now processed.
> > > >
> > > > I am concerned though after looking at their latest release vote that
> > > we're
> > > > still missing a few things related to "Verify distribution rights."
> > It's
> > > > not enough for me to say that they're far off, but after seeing the
> > > issues
> > > > related to both SGA and license/header declarations I can't say that
> I
> > > can
> > > > give the podling a warm +1 on their graduation. Note that per the
> > > > podling's status page they completed these steps on 2015-06-10.
> > > >
> > > > John
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 7:36 PM Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > John,
> > > > >
> > > > > Was this issue not rectified to your satisfaction?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 10:15 AM, John D. Ament <
> > johndament@apache.org
> > > >
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Luke,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Actually I voted -1 due to your open SGA issues.
> > > > > > On Oct 22, 2015 11:24 PM, "Luke Han" <lu...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > The vote for Apache Kylin to become a top-level project has
> > passed
> > > > > > > with 27 +1 votes and no 0 or -1 votes.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thank you everyone for taking the time to review and cast your
> > > vote.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > We will now prepare a resolution for the next Board meeting.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 10 binding:
> > > > > > > * Henry Saputra
> > > > > > > * Andrew Purtell
> > > > > > > * Bertrand Delacretaz
> > > > > > > * Julian Hyde
> > > > > > > * P. Taylor Goetz
> > > > > > > * Ted Dunning
> > > > > > > * Edward J. Yoon
> > > > > > > * Alexander Bezzubov
> > > > > > > * John D. Ament
> > > > > > > * Owen O'Malley
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 17 non-binding:
> > > > > > > * Luke Han
> > > > > > > * Shaofeng Shi
> > > > > > > * Jason Zhong
> > > > > > > * Qianhao Zhou
> > > > > > > * Dong Li
> > > > > > > * Droopy Hu
> > > > > > > * Xiaoyong Bai (lostitle)
> > > > > > > * Qi Liu (Goroutine)
> > > > > > > * Yerui Sun
> > > > > > > * Xu Jiang
> > > > > > > * Debashis Saha
> > > > > > > * Yang Li
> > > > > > > * Chad Chun
> > > > > > > * Atri Sharma
> > > > > > > * Hao Chen
> > > > > > > * Eddy Cai
> > > > > > > * Naresh Agarwal
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Luke
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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Re: [Result][VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator
Posted by Luke Han <lu...@gmail.com>.
Hi John,
In that case, how about to re-send the vote result to count your vote
to -1? Or would you like to change your mind?
Back to the license discussion, it's already have been pointed out the
root cause and it's should not an issue now. Google Fonts has agreement
about that, AdminLTE has MIT license (as below) about that, such claim
already added into Apache Kylin's LICENSE on Apr 28, 2015 [1].
With discussion in release thread, such suggestion has been accepted
and added Google Fonts one too [2].
So I would like to say that's what the podling needs to improve itself
(and already done) but not an "license issue".
I'm so sorry to count your vote directly to +1 with my own assumption,
but really would like to ask you to considering again for this podling's
graduation status:)
Thank you very much.
*--------*
*@import
url(https://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=Source+Sans+Pro:300,400,600,700,300italic,400italic,600italic
<https://fonts.googleapis.com/css?family=Source+Sans+Pro:300,400,600,700,300italic,400italic,600italic>);*
*/*!*
* * AdminLTE v2.3.2*
* * Author: Almsaeed Studio*
* * Website: Almsaeed Studio <http://almsaeedstudio.com
<http://almsaeedstudio.com>>*
* * License: Open source - MIT*
* * Please visit http://opensource.org/licenses/MIT
<http://opensource.org/licenses/MIT> for more information*
*!*/*
*/**
* * Core: General Layout Style*
* * -------------------------*
* */*
[1]
https://github.com/apache/incubator-kylin/commit/0c8d7933df707e607537018c6c80a67523c74182
[2]
https://github.com/apache/incubator-kylin/commit/514fcf70997d78a20ed6a3f9b59d66e75980302c
Best Regards!
---------------------
Luke Han
On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 2:00 AM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> Sorry, I missed this email.
>
> No, votes don't automatically convert, at least not in my case.
>
> After my vote was added, there was a release vote of Kylin which raised new
> licensing issues. I wouldn't expect a graduating podling to still have
> licensing issues.
>
> John
>
> On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 8:38 PM Luke Han <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi John,
> > Thank you to remind and I'm sorry I was count votes only
> > based on my understanding, per previous discussion and your
> > comments in vote thread about SGA [1], as a programmer,
> > I was thinking:
> > if ( SGA == confirmed) {
> > John's Vote = +1
> > } else {
> > John's Vote = -1
> > }
> >
> > that's why I count your vote to +1 since the SGA is confirmed
> > and the status file has been updated (2015-10-17, for the copyright).
> >
> > For the date you mentioned here (2015-06-10, for license), it's
> > updated during the first apache release [2] [3], added Apache
> > license header to all source files, cleaned up any GPL or other
> > one and updated LICENSE, NOTICE and other files. The majority
> > efforts happened during that time for license and copyright. That's
> > why I would like to continue to keep that date.
> > For v1.1 release, the situation already has been clarified
> > and LICENSE files has been updated [4].
> >
> > Would you mind to continue count your vote as +1 as my original
> > "brain computing logical":)
> >
> >
> > *[1]:*
> >
> >
> > *Thanks Luke. If you can get a reference out to people and have
> > thekylin.xml updated to reflect the date, I'd be happy to add a +1
> > butotherwise its -1 for me for now.*
> > *[2]: **https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-669
> > <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-669>*
> > *[3]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-715
> > <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-715>*
> > *[4]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-999
> > <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-999>*
> >
> >
> > Best Regards!
> > ---------------------
> >
> > Luke Han
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 7:53 AM, John D. Ament <jo...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Ted,
> > >
> > > After catching up on email, I see the SGA was now processed.
> > >
> > > I am concerned though after looking at their latest release vote that
> > we're
> > > still missing a few things related to "Verify distribution rights."
> It's
> > > not enough for me to say that they're far off, but after seeing the
> > issues
> > > related to both SGA and license/header declarations I can't say that I
> > can
> > > give the podling a warm +1 on their graduation. Note that per the
> > > podling's status page they completed these steps on 2015-06-10.
> > >
> > > John
> > >
> > > On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 7:36 PM Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > John,
> > > >
> > > > Was this issue not rectified to your satisfaction?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 10:15 AM, John D. Ament <
> johndament@apache.org
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Luke,
> > > > >
> > > > > Actually I voted -1 due to your open SGA issues.
> > > > > On Oct 22, 2015 11:24 PM, "Luke Han" <lu...@apache.org> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > The vote for Apache Kylin to become a top-level project has
> passed
> > > > > > with 27 +1 votes and no 0 or -1 votes.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thank you everyone for taking the time to review and cast your
> > vote.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We will now prepare a resolution for the next Board meeting.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 10 binding:
> > > > > > * Henry Saputra
> > > > > > * Andrew Purtell
> > > > > > * Bertrand Delacretaz
> > > > > > * Julian Hyde
> > > > > > * P. Taylor Goetz
> > > > > > * Ted Dunning
> > > > > > * Edward J. Yoon
> > > > > > * Alexander Bezzubov
> > > > > > * John D. Ament
> > > > > > * Owen O'Malley
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 17 non-binding:
> > > > > > * Luke Han
> > > > > > * Shaofeng Shi
> > > > > > * Jason Zhong
> > > > > > * Qianhao Zhou
> > > > > > * Dong Li
> > > > > > * Droopy Hu
> > > > > > * Xiaoyong Bai (lostitle)
> > > > > > * Qi Liu (Goroutine)
> > > > > > * Yerui Sun
> > > > > > * Xu Jiang
> > > > > > * Debashis Saha
> > > > > > * Yang Li
> > > > > > * Chad Chun
> > > > > > * Atri Sharma
> > > > > > * Hao Chen
> > > > > > * Eddy Cai
> > > > > > * Naresh Agarwal
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Luke
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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Re: [Result][VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator
Posted by Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>.
Kylin did have successful releases without licensing issue: 0.7.1 and 0.7.2.
Especially with 0.7.1, the community did another re-VOTE to address
Justin concern about license issue:
http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/incubator-general/201506.mbox/%3cCAKmQrObLERr-Kuv+qtbm2LLxaB+qu6g2xOZ_gVUSP9AoWb_Mcg@mail.gmail.com%3e
As one of the mentors of the project that been work closely with the
community, I think the community is ready to graduate more than others
we have let graduated before.
Also, the proposed PMCs have several members of the ASF that could
help the community keep growing and learning as part of top level
project in Apache.
I hope this would help convince John to change his mind about Kylin
readiness to graduate.
- Henry
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 6:39 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 8:26 PM Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 5:17 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Actually, 5/5 releases were done without the SGA. I'm not too worried
>> > about that for a number of reasons.
>> >
>>
>> The missing SGA was a defect in form, but not in substance. All of the
>> original code came from eBay who had a strong commitment to open sourcing
>> the code as evidenced by their placing the code on github under ALS.
>>
>>
>> > 1. We imported the full history from the original repository, the podling
>> > has built upon that instead of flattening the commit.
>> >
>>
>> ?!
>>
>> How is this a defect? It increases transparency.
>>
>
> The 4 items I listed aren't necessarily problems, just observations
> explaining why I'm not too concerned about there being a missed/late SGA.
> I actually prefer to see the full history imported for this exact reason.
>
>
>>
>>
>> > 2. The code coming in was already AL v2 compliant, so its really a
>> question
>> > as to whether releases were proper.
>> >
>>
>> Correct modulo the kinds of nits that tend to be surfaced by incubator
>> reviews.
>>
>>
>> > 3. From continuing to look into this, I also noticed we're missing an IP
>> > Clearance for the donation. In addition, there are 31 contributors per
>> > github, but the project proposal includes 8, the current roster shows 13
>> +
>> > 5 mentors. So there is a potential gap related to IP.
>> >
>>
>> All of the original contributors to the code were employees of eBay and
>> thus, there was no IP problem from then. Later contributors may have been
>> from outside of the committer circles, but all commits were pulled into
>> Apache by a committer. The Apache push logs record exactly who brought the
>> commits into Apache while commits themselves record who actually authored
>> the original code. This is relatively standard for git operations at
>> Apache.
>>
>>
>> >
>> > 4. We've had prior cases where podlings failed to get the SGA done
>> properly
>> > before starting incubation. It happens, and as long as we can find an
>> SGA
>> > indicating the initial import we should be fine
>>
>>
>> We have that.
>>
>>
>> > Sorry, I feel like every time I dig into this I find something new. :/
>> >
>>
>> I am sorry you get that impression.
>>
>> Other than the SGA (now filed, acknowledged by the project to be late in
>> obsequious subsequent prostrations) and the font license (covered by the
>> acks in the containing package and the overall project acknowledgements and
>> difficult to mark otherwise) what new actual issues have you uncovered?
>>
>> My own opinion is that each of the issue you just mentioned are actually
>> virtues rather than vices.
>>
>
> I think seeing a release from the podling that has no licensing issue would
> be great.
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Re: [Result][VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 8:26 PM Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 5:17 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Actually, 5/5 releases were done without the SGA. I'm not too worried
> > about that for a number of reasons.
> >
>
> The missing SGA was a defect in form, but not in substance. All of the
> original code came from eBay who had a strong commitment to open sourcing
> the code as evidenced by their placing the code on github under ALS.
>
>
> > 1. We imported the full history from the original repository, the podling
> > has built upon that instead of flattening the commit.
> >
>
> ?!
>
> How is this a defect? It increases transparency.
>
The 4 items I listed aren't necessarily problems, just observations
explaining why I'm not too concerned about there being a missed/late SGA.
I actually prefer to see the full history imported for this exact reason.
>
>
> > 2. The code coming in was already AL v2 compliant, so its really a
> question
> > as to whether releases were proper.
> >
>
> Correct modulo the kinds of nits that tend to be surfaced by incubator
> reviews.
>
>
> > 3. From continuing to look into this, I also noticed we're missing an IP
> > Clearance for the donation. In addition, there are 31 contributors per
> > github, but the project proposal includes 8, the current roster shows 13
> +
> > 5 mentors. So there is a potential gap related to IP.
> >
>
> All of the original contributors to the code were employees of eBay and
> thus, there was no IP problem from then. Later contributors may have been
> from outside of the committer circles, but all commits were pulled into
> Apache by a committer. The Apache push logs record exactly who brought the
> commits into Apache while commits themselves record who actually authored
> the original code. This is relatively standard for git operations at
> Apache.
>
>
> >
> > 4. We've had prior cases where podlings failed to get the SGA done
> properly
> > before starting incubation. It happens, and as long as we can find an
> SGA
> > indicating the initial import we should be fine
>
>
> We have that.
>
>
> > Sorry, I feel like every time I dig into this I find something new. :/
> >
>
> I am sorry you get that impression.
>
> Other than the SGA (now filed, acknowledged by the project to be late in
> obsequious subsequent prostrations) and the font license (covered by the
> acks in the containing package and the overall project acknowledgements and
> difficult to mark otherwise) what new actual issues have you uncovered?
>
> My own opinion is that each of the issue you just mentioned are actually
> virtues rather than vices.
>
I think seeing a release from the podling that has no licensing issue would
be great.
Re: [Result][VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator
Posted by Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 5:17 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> Actually, 5/5 releases were done without the SGA. I'm not too worried
> about that for a number of reasons.
>
The missing SGA was a defect in form, but not in substance. All of the
original code came from eBay who had a strong commitment to open sourcing
the code as evidenced by their placing the code on github under ALS.
> 1. We imported the full history from the original repository, the podling
> has built upon that instead of flattening the commit.
>
?!
How is this a defect? It increases transparency.
> 2. The code coming in was already AL v2 compliant, so its really a question
> as to whether releases were proper.
>
Correct modulo the kinds of nits that tend to be surfaced by incubator
reviews.
> 3. From continuing to look into this, I also noticed we're missing an IP
> Clearance for the donation. In addition, there are 31 contributors per
> github, but the project proposal includes 8, the current roster shows 13 +
> 5 mentors. So there is a potential gap related to IP.
>
All of the original contributors to the code were employees of eBay and
thus, there was no IP problem from then. Later contributors may have been
from outside of the committer circles, but all commits were pulled into
Apache by a committer. The Apache push logs record exactly who brought the
commits into Apache while commits themselves record who actually authored
the original code. This is relatively standard for git operations at Apache.
>
> 4. We've had prior cases where podlings failed to get the SGA done properly
> before starting incubation. It happens, and as long as we can find an SGA
> indicating the initial import we should be fine
We have that.
> Sorry, I feel like every time I dig into this I find something new. :/
>
I am sorry you get that impression.
Other than the SGA (now filed, acknowledged by the project to be late in
obsequious subsequent prostrations) and the font license (covered by the
acks in the containing package and the overall project acknowledgements and
difficult to mark otherwise) what new actual issues have you uncovered?
My own opinion is that each of the issue you just mentioned are actually
virtues rather than vices.
Re: [Result][VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator
Posted by "John D. Ament" <jo...@apache.org>.
Actually, 5/5 releases were done without the SGA. I'm not too worried
about that for a number of reasons.
1. We imported the full history from the original repository, the podling
has built upon that instead of flattening the commit.
2. The code coming in was already AL v2 compliant, so its really a question
as to whether releases were proper.
3. From continuing to look into this, I also noticed we're missing an IP
Clearance for the donation. In addition, there are 31 contributors per
github, but the project proposal includes 8, the current roster shows 13 +
5 mentors. So there is a potential gap related to IP.
4. We've had prior cases where podlings failed to get the SGA done properly
before starting incubation. It happens, and as long as we can find an SGA
indicating the initial import we should be fine.
Sorry, I feel like every time I dig into this I find something new. :/
John
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 1:51 PM David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote:
> 5 releases of software, and 4 of them before an SGA appeared is troubling.
> The code being imported and writable at all at the ASF prior to a
> valid SGA being filed appears to be a violation of Incubator policy[1]
>
> This, plus John's comments are troubling and give me pause
>
> --David
>
> [1]
> http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html#initial-import-code-dump
>
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 1:00 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > Sorry, I missed this email.
> >
> > No, votes don't automatically convert, at least not in my case.
> >
> > After my vote was added, there was a release vote of Kylin which raised
> new
> > licensing issues. I wouldn't expect a graduating podling to still have
> > licensing issues.
> >
> > John
> >
> > On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 8:38 PM Luke Han <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi John,
> >> Thank you to remind and I'm sorry I was count votes only
> >> based on my understanding, per previous discussion and your
> >> comments in vote thread about SGA [1], as a programmer,
> >> I was thinking:
> >> if ( SGA == confirmed) {
> >> John's Vote = +1
> >> } else {
> >> John's Vote = -1
> >> }
> >>
> >> that's why I count your vote to +1 since the SGA is confirmed
> >> and the status file has been updated (2015-10-17, for the copyright).
> >>
> >> For the date you mentioned here (2015-06-10, for license), it's
> >> updated during the first apache release [2] [3], added Apache
> >> license header to all source files, cleaned up any GPL or other
> >> one and updated LICENSE, NOTICE and other files. The majority
> >> efforts happened during that time for license and copyright. That's
> >> why I would like to continue to keep that date.
> >> For v1.1 release, the situation already has been clarified
> >> and LICENSE files has been updated [4].
> >>
> >> Would you mind to continue count your vote as +1 as my original
> >> "brain computing logical":)
> >>
> >>
> >> *[1]:*
> >>
> >>
> >> *Thanks Luke. If you can get a reference out to people and have
> >> thekylin.xml updated to reflect the date, I'd be happy to add a +1
> >> butotherwise its -1 for me for now.*
> >> *[2]: **https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-669
> >> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-669>*
> >> *[3]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-715
> >> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-715>*
> >> *[4]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-999
> >> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-999>*
> >>
> >>
> >> Best Regards!
> >> ---------------------
> >>
> >> Luke Han
> >>
> >> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 7:53 AM, John D. Ament <jo...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Ted,
> >> >
> >> > After catching up on email, I see the SGA was now processed.
> >> >
> >> > I am concerned though after looking at their latest release vote that
> >> we're
> >> > still missing a few things related to "Verify distribution rights."
> It's
> >> > not enough for me to say that they're far off, but after seeing the
> >> issues
> >> > related to both SGA and license/header declarations I can't say that I
> >> can
> >> > give the podling a warm +1 on their graduation. Note that per the
> >> > podling's status page they completed these steps on 2015-06-10.
> >> >
> >> > John
> >> >
> >> > On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 7:36 PM Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> > > John,
> >> > >
> >> > > Was this issue not rectified to your satisfaction?
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 10:15 AM, John D. Ament <
> johndament@apache.org
> >> >
> >> > > wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > > Hi Luke,
> >> > > >
> >> > > > Actually I voted -1 due to your open SGA issues.
> >> > > > On Oct 22, 2015 11:24 PM, "Luke Han" <lu...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> > > >
> >> > > > > The vote for Apache Kylin to become a top-level project has
> passed
> >> > > > > with 27 +1 votes and no 0 or -1 votes.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Thank you everyone for taking the time to review and cast your
> >> vote.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > We will now prepare a resolution for the next Board meeting.
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > 10 binding:
> >> > > > > * Henry Saputra
> >> > > > > * Andrew Purtell
> >> > > > > * Bertrand Delacretaz
> >> > > > > * Julian Hyde
> >> > > > > * P. Taylor Goetz
> >> > > > > * Ted Dunning
> >> > > > > * Edward J. Yoon
> >> > > > > * Alexander Bezzubov
> >> > > > > * John D. Ament
> >> > > > > * Owen O'Malley
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > 17 non-binding:
> >> > > > > * Luke Han
> >> > > > > * Shaofeng Shi
> >> > > > > * Jason Zhong
> >> > > > > * Qianhao Zhou
> >> > > > > * Dong Li
> >> > > > > * Droopy Hu
> >> > > > > * Xiaoyong Bai (lostitle)
> >> > > > > * Qi Liu (Goroutine)
> >> > > > > * Yerui Sun
> >> > > > > * Xu Jiang
> >> > > > > * Debashis Saha
> >> > > > > * Yang Li
> >> > > > > * Chad Chun
> >> > > > > * Atri Sharma
> >> > > > > * Hao Chen
> >> > > > > * Eddy Cai
> >> > > > > * Naresh Agarwal
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > > Luke
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
> >> > > > >
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Re: [Result][VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator
Posted by Henry Saputra <he...@gmail.com>.
Hi David,
It was a mis-step of not filing SGA early, but I the issue just being
brought up after several releases had been made and being +1 voted to
go on.
I don't there is nothing we could do to un-do the existing releases.
But the error has been fixed and other than that I do not see any
other concern.
It was the error from the mentors that forgot to remind to send SGA.
The community had been operated in the open and following the Apache way.
I believe they are ready to graduate.
John's comment, even though it is valid, has been addressed completely.
- Henry
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 10:50 AM, David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us> wrote:
> 5 releases of software, and 4 of them before an SGA appeared is troubling.
> The code being imported and writable at all at the ASF prior to a
> valid SGA being filed appears to be a violation of Incubator policy[1]
>
> This, plus John's comments are troubling and give me pause
>
> --David
>
> [1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html#initial-import-code-dump
>
> On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 1:00 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Sorry, I missed this email.
>>
>> No, votes don't automatically convert, at least not in my case.
>>
>> After my vote was added, there was a release vote of Kylin which raised new
>> licensing issues. I wouldn't expect a graduating podling to still have
>> licensing issues.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 8:38 PM Luke Han <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi John,
>>> Thank you to remind and I'm sorry I was count votes only
>>> based on my understanding, per previous discussion and your
>>> comments in vote thread about SGA [1], as a programmer,
>>> I was thinking:
>>> if ( SGA == confirmed) {
>>> John's Vote = +1
>>> } else {
>>> John's Vote = -1
>>> }
>>>
>>> that's why I count your vote to +1 since the SGA is confirmed
>>> and the status file has been updated (2015-10-17, for the copyright).
>>>
>>> For the date you mentioned here (2015-06-10, for license), it's
>>> updated during the first apache release [2] [3], added Apache
>>> license header to all source files, cleaned up any GPL or other
>>> one and updated LICENSE, NOTICE and other files. The majority
>>> efforts happened during that time for license and copyright. That's
>>> why I would like to continue to keep that date.
>>> For v1.1 release, the situation already has been clarified
>>> and LICENSE files has been updated [4].
>>>
>>> Would you mind to continue count your vote as +1 as my original
>>> "brain computing logical":)
>>>
>>>
>>> *[1]:*
>>>
>>>
>>> *Thanks Luke. If you can get a reference out to people and have
>>> thekylin.xml updated to reflect the date, I'd be happy to add a +1
>>> butotherwise its -1 for me for now.*
>>> *[2]: **https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-669
>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-669>*
>>> *[3]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-715
>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-715>*
>>> *[4]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-999
>>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-999>*
>>>
>>>
>>> Best Regards!
>>> ---------------------
>>>
>>> Luke Han
>>>
>>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 7:53 AM, John D. Ament <jo...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> > Ted,
>>> >
>>> > After catching up on email, I see the SGA was now processed.
>>> >
>>> > I am concerned though after looking at their latest release vote that
>>> we're
>>> > still missing a few things related to "Verify distribution rights." It's
>>> > not enough for me to say that they're far off, but after seeing the
>>> issues
>>> > related to both SGA and license/header declarations I can't say that I
>>> can
>>> > give the podling a warm +1 on their graduation. Note that per the
>>> > podling's status page they completed these steps on 2015-06-10.
>>> >
>>> > John
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 7:36 PM Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > > John,
>>> > >
>>> > > Was this issue not rectified to your satisfaction?
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 10:15 AM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org
>>> >
>>> > > wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > > > Hi Luke,
>>> > > >
>>> > > > Actually I voted -1 due to your open SGA issues.
>>> > > > On Oct 22, 2015 11:24 PM, "Luke Han" <lu...@apache.org> wrote:
>>> > > >
>>> > > > > The vote for Apache Kylin to become a top-level project has passed
>>> > > > > with 27 +1 votes and no 0 or -1 votes.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Thank you everyone for taking the time to review and cast your
>>> vote.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > We will now prepare a resolution for the next Board meeting.
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > 10 binding:
>>> > > > > * Henry Saputra
>>> > > > > * Andrew Purtell
>>> > > > > * Bertrand Delacretaz
>>> > > > > * Julian Hyde
>>> > > > > * P. Taylor Goetz
>>> > > > > * Ted Dunning
>>> > > > > * Edward J. Yoon
>>> > > > > * Alexander Bezzubov
>>> > > > > * John D. Ament
>>> > > > > * Owen O'Malley
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > 17 non-binding:
>>> > > > > * Luke Han
>>> > > > > * Shaofeng Shi
>>> > > > > * Jason Zhong
>>> > > > > * Qianhao Zhou
>>> > > > > * Dong Li
>>> > > > > * Droopy Hu
>>> > > > > * Xiaoyong Bai (lostitle)
>>> > > > > * Qi Liu (Goroutine)
>>> > > > > * Yerui Sun
>>> > > > > * Xu Jiang
>>> > > > > * Debashis Saha
>>> > > > > * Yang Li
>>> > > > > * Chad Chun
>>> > > > > * Atri Sharma
>>> > > > > * Hao Chen
>>> > > > > * Eddy Cai
>>> > > > > * Naresh Agarwal
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > > Luke
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
>>> > > > >
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Re: [Result][VOTE] Graduate Apache Kylin from the Apache Incubator
Posted by David Nalley <da...@gnsa.us>.
5 releases of software, and 4 of them before an SGA appeared is troubling.
The code being imported and writable at all at the ASF prior to a
valid SGA being filed appears to be a violation of Incubator policy[1]
This, plus John's comments are troubling and give me pause
--David
[1] http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html#initial-import-code-dump
On Mon, Nov 2, 2015 at 1:00 PM, John D. Ament <jo...@apache.org> wrote:
> Sorry, I missed this email.
>
> No, votes don't automatically convert, at least not in my case.
>
> After my vote was added, there was a release vote of Kylin which raised new
> licensing issues. I wouldn't expect a graduating podling to still have
> licensing issues.
>
> John
>
> On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 8:38 PM Luke Han <lu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi John,
>> Thank you to remind and I'm sorry I was count votes only
>> based on my understanding, per previous discussion and your
>> comments in vote thread about SGA [1], as a programmer,
>> I was thinking:
>> if ( SGA == confirmed) {
>> John's Vote = +1
>> } else {
>> John's Vote = -1
>> }
>>
>> that's why I count your vote to +1 since the SGA is confirmed
>> and the status file has been updated (2015-10-17, for the copyright).
>>
>> For the date you mentioned here (2015-06-10, for license), it's
>> updated during the first apache release [2] [3], added Apache
>> license header to all source files, cleaned up any GPL or other
>> one and updated LICENSE, NOTICE and other files. The majority
>> efforts happened during that time for license and copyright. That's
>> why I would like to continue to keep that date.
>> For v1.1 release, the situation already has been clarified
>> and LICENSE files has been updated [4].
>>
>> Would you mind to continue count your vote as +1 as my original
>> "brain computing logical":)
>>
>>
>> *[1]:*
>>
>>
>> *Thanks Luke. If you can get a reference out to people and have
>> thekylin.xml updated to reflect the date, I'd be happy to add a +1
>> butotherwise its -1 for me for now.*
>> *[2]: **https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-669
>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-669>*
>> *[3]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-715
>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-715>*
>> *[4]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-999
>> <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/KYLIN-999>*
>>
>>
>> Best Regards!
>> ---------------------
>>
>> Luke Han
>>
>> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 7:53 AM, John D. Ament <jo...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Ted,
>> >
>> > After catching up on email, I see the SGA was now processed.
>> >
>> > I am concerned though after looking at their latest release vote that
>> we're
>> > still missing a few things related to "Verify distribution rights." It's
>> > not enough for me to say that they're far off, but after seeing the
>> issues
>> > related to both SGA and license/header declarations I can't say that I
>> can
>> > give the podling a warm +1 on their graduation. Note that per the
>> > podling's status page they completed these steps on 2015-06-10.
>> >
>> > John
>> >
>> > On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 7:36 PM Ted Dunning <te...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > > John,
>> > >
>> > > Was this issue not rectified to your satisfaction?
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Sun, Oct 25, 2015 at 10:15 AM, John D. Ament <johndament@apache.org
>> >
>> > > wrote:
>> > >
>> > > > Hi Luke,
>> > > >
>> > > > Actually I voted -1 due to your open SGA issues.
>> > > > On Oct 22, 2015 11:24 PM, "Luke Han" <lu...@apache.org> wrote:
>> > > >
>> > > > > The vote for Apache Kylin to become a top-level project has passed
>> > > > > with 27 +1 votes and no 0 or -1 votes.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Thank you everyone for taking the time to review and cast your
>> vote.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > We will now prepare a resolution for the next Board meeting.
>> > > > >
>> > > > > 10 binding:
>> > > > > * Henry Saputra
>> > > > > * Andrew Purtell
>> > > > > * Bertrand Delacretaz
>> > > > > * Julian Hyde
>> > > > > * P. Taylor Goetz
>> > > > > * Ted Dunning
>> > > > > * Edward J. Yoon
>> > > > > * Alexander Bezzubov
>> > > > > * John D. Ament
>> > > > > * Owen O'Malley
>> > > > >
>> > > > > 17 non-binding:
>> > > > > * Luke Han
>> > > > > * Shaofeng Shi
>> > > > > * Jason Zhong
>> > > > > * Qianhao Zhou
>> > > > > * Dong Li
>> > > > > * Droopy Hu
>> > > > > * Xiaoyong Bai (lostitle)
>> > > > > * Qi Liu (Goroutine)
>> > > > > * Yerui Sun
>> > > > > * Xu Jiang
>> > > > > * Debashis Saha
>> > > > > * Yang Li
>> > > > > * Chad Chun
>> > > > > * Atri Sharma
>> > > > > * Hao Chen
>> > > > > * Eddy Cai
>> > > > > * Naresh Agarwal
>> > > > >
>> > > > > Luke
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
>> > > > >
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