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This can not be true
Hello Apache, Hello OpenOffice-PMC, Hello Community,
I am absolutely horrified that in a situation where we have to overcome problems together, no reasonable planning takes place.
How can it be that even though *there was a help offer for the translation*, a press release is simply published in English without coordinating internationally?
How could appear the following article (which is supposed to be a press release) without waiting for possible translations?
https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the_apache_openoffice_project_announces
I disagree with this approach.
Jörg
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Re: This can not be true
Posted by Peter Kovacs <le...@gmail.com>.
+1
Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org> schrieb am Do., 13. Okt. 2016, 09:12:
> Jörg Schmidt wrote:
> > no reasonable planning takes place.
> > How can it be that even though *there was a help offer for the
> translation*, a press release is simply published in English without
> coordinating internationally?
>
> I agree with Joerg here. We did it for the release notes, and we can do
> it for the announcements (Press releases) too.
>
> Two thing must be said: there was no time for coordination since the
> press release had been accidentally made available before the planned
> date; and the press release is traditionally kept confidential before
> issuing it (while the Release notes are not).
>
> Still, I agree that translation volunteers must be given access to the
> Press Release so that they can translate it and issue it soon after the
> English one. We must make sure to do so starting with the next release.
>
> >
> https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the_apache_openoffice_project_announces
>
> Joerg, what if we create a copy of the Press Release on the CWiki and we
> append each translation as child page? Would it work? I'm going to do
> the same for Italian as soon as I have some time for it. And then we
> will edit the English blog post to link to translations.
>
> Regards,
> Andrea.
>
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Re: This can not be true
Posted by Hagar Delest <de...@gmail.com>.
French translation on-line: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.3+est+disponible
Hagar
Le 17/10/2016 13:38, Jrg Schmidt a crit :
>> Page created at
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.3
>> +Announcement
>> ; people interested in translating it can add a child page for their
>> language.
> the german translation is ready:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=65876043
>
> @Marcus:
> Can you please check your quotations in the translation
>
>
>
> Jrg
>
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Re: This can not be true
Posted by Jörg Schmidt <jo...@j-m-schmidt.de>.
> From: Marcus [mailto:marcus.mail@wtnet.de]
> thanks for your translation. Please exchange the quoted text
> parts into
> the following:
>
> "... ist eine gelegentliche Stille nicht ungewöhnlich ..."
>
> "... Das war bis vor kurzem auch bei OpenOffice der Fall ..."
done
Jörg
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Re: This can not be true
Posted by Marcus <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 10/17/2016 01:38 PM, schrieb J�rg Schmidt:
>
>> Page created at
>> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.3
>> +Announcement
>> ; people interested in translating it can add a child page for their
>> language.
>
> the german translation is ready:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=65876043
>
> @Marcus:
> Can you please check your quotations in the translation
thanks for your translation. Please exchange the quoted text parts into
the following:
"... ist eine gelegentliche Stille nicht ungew�hnlich ..."
"... Das war bis vor kurzem auch bei OpenOffice der Fall ..."
Thanks
Marcus
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Re: German release notes
Posted by Jörg Schmidt <jo...@j-m-schmidt.de>.
> From: Matthias Seidel [mailto:matthias.seidel@hamburg.de]
> @Jörg Schmidt:
>
> Small note for the german release notes at:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?page
> Id=65873798
>
> I found two occasions where it says "Openoffice" instead of
> "OpenOffice".
OK, corrected
Jörg
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German release notes
Posted by Matthias Seidel <ma...@hamburg.de>.
@Jörg Schmidt:
Small note for the german release notes at:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=65873798
I found two occasions where it says "Openoffice" instead of "OpenOffice".
But let me thank you personally for the translations!
regards
Matthias
Re: This can not be true
Posted by Jörg Schmidt <jo...@j-m-schmidt.de>.
> Page created at
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.3
> +Announcement
> ; people interested in translating it can add a child page for their
> language.
the german translation is ready:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=65876043
@Marcus:
Can you please check your quotations in the translation
Jörg
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Re: This can not be true
Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
J�rg Schmidt wrote:
>> From: Andrea Pescetti
>> Joerg, what if we create a copy of the Press Release on the
>> CWiki and we
>> append each translation as child page? Would it work?
> Yes, that would be a possibility.
Page created at
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.3+Announcement
; people interested in translating it can add a child page for their
language.
Regards,
Andrea.
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Re: This can not be true
Posted by Jörg Schmidt <jo...@j-m-schmidt.de>.
Hello,
> From: Andrea Pescetti [mailto:pescetti@apache.org]
> Two thing must be said: there was no time for coordination since the
> press release had been accidentally made available before the planned
> date; and the press release is traditionally kept confidential before
> issuing it (while the Release notes are not).
>
> Still, I agree that translation volunteers must be given
> access to the
> Press Release so that they can translate it and issue it soon
> after the
> English one.
Exactly, that is the problem.
I am ready to make a translation as quickly as possible, but I need practically at least 24-48 hours of time.
> Joerg, what if we create a copy of the Press Release on the
> CWiki and we
> append each translation as child page? Would it work?
Yes, that would be a possibility.
I have little time, because of my professional activity, but I will try to make the translation as fast as possible. I think within 48 hours.
Greetings,
Jörg
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Re: This can not be true
Posted by Marcus <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 10/13/2016 09:12 AM, schrieb Andrea Pescetti:
> J�rg Schmidt wrote:
>> no reasonable planning takes place.
>> How can it be that even though *there was a help offer for the
>> translation*, a press release is simply published in English without
>> coordinating internationally?
>
> I agree with Joerg here. We did it for the release notes, and we can do
> it for the announcements (Press releases) too.
>
> Two thing must be said: there was no time for coordination since the
> press release had been accidentally made available before the planned
> date; and the press release is traditionally kept confidential before
> issuing it (while the Release notes are not).
>
> Still, I agree that translation volunteers must be given access to the
> Press Release so that they can translate it and issue it soon after the
> English one. We must make sure to do so starting with the next release.
I'm sorry when something was not understood. I got the request from
Joerg (and Dick for Dutch) to translate it press release. However, there
was not hint that we should wait until this is ready. I really didn't
thought that this was important.
We will add this task to the cookbook and consider it for the next release.
Again, I'm sorry when the timing was not perfectly coordinated.
>> https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the_apache_openoffice_project_announces
>
> Joerg, what if we create a copy of the Press Release on the CWiki and we
> append each translation as child page? Would it work? I'm going to do
> the same for Italian as soon as I have some time for it. And then we
> will edit the English blog post to link to translations.
That's for sure a good idea. Then we can link to the translated text.
Marcus
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Re: This can not be true
Posted by Andrea Pescetti <pe...@apache.org>.
J�rg Schmidt wrote:
> no reasonable planning takes place.
> How can it be that even though *there was a help offer for the translation*, a press release is simply published in English without coordinating internationally?
I agree with Joerg here. We did it for the release notes, and we can do
it for the announcements (Press releases) too.
Two thing must be said: there was no time for coordination since the
press release had been accidentally made available before the planned
date; and the press release is traditionally kept confidential before
issuing it (while the Release notes are not).
Still, I agree that translation volunteers must be given access to the
Press Release so that they can translate it and issue it soon after the
English one. We must make sure to do so starting with the next release.
> https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the_apache_openoffice_project_announces
Joerg, what if we create a copy of the Press Release on the CWiki and we
append each translation as child page? Would it work? I'm going to do
the same for Italian as soon as I have some time for it. And then we
will edit the English blog post to link to translations.
Regards,
Andrea.
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Re: This can not be true
Posted by Jörg Schmidt <jo...@j-m-schmidt.de>.
> From: Patricia Shanahan [mailto:pats@acm.org]
> I have started a Wiki page on "How to Cook a Release",
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/How+to+Co
> ok+a+Release,
> so that we will know everything that needs to be done and how
> to do it.
> That should reduce the risk of something important getting
> missed. I'm
> adding a section on Translations.
yes I see. That's right so
> What documents, other than the release notes and the press release,
> should be translated?
At the moment I know nothing more
Jörg
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Re: This can not be true
Posted by Patricia Shanahan <pa...@acm.org>.
On 10/12/2016 11:55 PM, J�rg Schmidt wrote:
> Hello Apache, Hello OpenOffice-PMC, Hello Community,
>
> I am absolutely horrified that in a situation where we have to overcome problems together, no reasonable planning takes place.
I have started a Wiki page on "How to Cook a Release",
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/How+to+Cook+a+Release,
so that we will know everything that needs to be done and how to do it.
That should reduce the risk of something important getting missed. I'm
adding a section on Translations.
What documents, other than the release notes and the press release,
should be translated?
>
> How can it be that even though *there was a help offer for the translation*, a press release is simply published in English without coordinating internationally?
>
> How could appear the following article (which is supposed to be a press release) without waiting for possible translations?
>
> https://blogs.apache.org/foundation/entry/the_apache_openoffice_project_announces
>
>
>
> I disagree with this approach.
>
>
> J�rg
>
>
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