RE: [OT] RE: Java / J2EE Developer

["Hookom, Jacob" <Ja...@redline.mckhboc.com>]

Please stop discussing this on the STRUTS-USER mailing list.

Thanks

-----Original Message-----
From: Peter Abbot [mailto:Peter.Abbot@wcc.govt.nz] 
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 1:34 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: [OT] RE: Java / J2EE Developer

Maybe you should have taken your own advice and maybe I should have too,
but your comments are too "one eyed american" not to comment.

Improving your self doesn't mean you would have to change jobs, you
surely have spare time to learn and read new things and there is plenty
of trial software out there to play with.

Don't think that because you are american you are special and the only
one in this situation. It is occuring all around the world, and that is
why people go to other countries because the same situation is occuring
in their own country. Maybe you should take note and go overseas to see
that there is other cultures than just the US.

-----Original Message-----
From: Smith, Darrin [mailto:Darrin.Smith@OraMetrix.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, 17 February 2004 7:39 a.m.
To: 'Struts Users Mailing List'
Subject: RE: Java / J2EE Developer


I know better to get involved in this but...

Improve yourself?  How will that protect you unless that improvement
happens to mean lowering your salary 80% or so?

This is a problem to us in the US.  Maybe folks from other countries
don't care, and that is understandable, but it doesn't mean that we
Americans shouldn't stand up and fight. I wonder why we allow people to
come over to the US, attend our colleges, work in our firms, and then
leave to better their countries...not ours.  It doesn't make any sense
to me.  Maybe back in the late 90's when there was a lot of work, but
now?

BTW, I have been both outsourced (other country) and downsized (with
only non-US workers left).  No, they were not better...but they were a
lot cheaper.



-----Original Message-----
From: James Mitchell [mailto:jmitchell@apache.org]
Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 12:28 PM
To: Struts Users Mailing List
Subject: RE: Java / J2EE Developer


Looks like the only way to compete is to improve yourself.  That works
for me, what about you?



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James Mitchell
Software Engineer / Open Source Evangelist
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andy Engle [mailto:struts@andyengle.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2004 12:59 PM
> To: Struts Users Mailing List
> Subject: RE: Java / J2EE Developer
>
>
> deepak saini <de...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Come to India, there are lots of jobs for you here.
>
> This drives me crazy -- our future is being exported and nobody seems 
> to care.
>
> http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/12.02/india.html
>
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