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Drop Java 9 and 10 from asfMavenTlpStdBuild()

Friends,

can someone drop those version from the Jenkins config? They aren't 
supported anymore and were short term releases anyway.

Michael

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Re: Drop Java 9 and 10 from asfMavenTlpStdBuild()

Posted by Tibor Digana <ti...@apache.org>.
Does it mean that combinations of Maven and JDK reached the disk limit?
I am using JDK 7, 8, 11, 12 and Maven 3.2, 3.3 and 3.5.
So 12 combinations altogether.
Each makes cleanup, and the archiver stores totally 240 Mega Bytes per
build.
We have 10 surefire builds which makes 2.4 GB per Linux. Windows is a bit
smaller.
If I could remove JDK 12, we would save only 25% on the disk.
Sometimes the archived ZIP files are investigated and often a lost
connection is found.

T

On Tue, Dec 25, 2018 at 8:38 PM Robert Scholte <rf...@apache.org> wrote:

> Java 9 and 10 have the same status as Java 1.7 right now.
> Knowing that the majority of Java projects/developers will go from 1.8 to
> 11 (because this is in the first LTS for some vendors) it probably makes
> sense to drop these versions by default.
> I'll remove them.
>
> Robert
>
> On Tue, 25 Dec 2018 19:16:11 +0100, Michael Osipov <mi...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Friends,
> >
> > can someone drop those version from the Jenkins config? They aren't
> > supported anymore and were short term releases anyway.
> >
> > Michael
> >
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Re: Drop Java 9 and 10 from asfMavenTlpStdBuild()

Posted by Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>.
FWIW, we are supporting Java 8 and 11 at work. We are skipping 9 and 10.

Gary

On Tue, Dec 25, 2018, 14:38 Robert Scholte <rfscholte@apache.org wrote:

> Java 9 and 10 have the same status as Java 1.7 right now.
> Knowing that the majority of Java projects/developers will go from 1.8 to
> 11 (because this is in the first LTS for some vendors) it probably makes
> sense to drop these versions by default.
> I'll remove them.
>
> Robert
>
> On Tue, 25 Dec 2018 19:16:11 +0100, Michael Osipov <mi...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Friends,
> >
> > can someone drop those version from the Jenkins config? They aren't
> > supported anymore and were short term releases anyway.
> >
> > Michael
> >
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Re: Drop Java 9 and 10 from asfMavenTlpStdBuild()

Posted by Karl Heinz Marbaise <kh...@gmx.de>.
Hi,

On 26/12/18 00:05, Sylwester Lachiewicz wrote:
> Hi,
> for Java 12 we have MNG-6522:
> - we have PR to enable ITs with Java 12 ready (in review)
> - builds Maven Core under Linux and pass all ITs with success [1]
> 
> To do and nice to have:
> - install Maven 3.6 on build boxes and enable builds in the jenkinsEnv
> matrix - now we are building only with 3.5.4


Created an INFRA-17500[1] ticket for this.


[1]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17500

> - on Windows machines we need JDK 12-ea installed - now tests fail (locally
> all test pass)


For this an infra ticket[2] is already there.


Kind regards
Karl Heinz Marbaise

[2]: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-17384

> 
> All code in branches MNG-6552 in maven and ITs at gitbox repo.
> 
> Sylwester
> 
> [1]
> https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/Maven/job/maven-box/job/maven/job/MNG-6522/
> 
> 
> wt., 25 gru 2018 o 22:36 Robert Scholte <rf...@apache.org> napisał(a):
> 
>> On Tue, 25 Dec 2018 22:18:59 +0100, Enrico Olivelli <eo...@gmail.com>
>>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> We could join jdk outreach quality process
>>
>> We're already on that list[1] for quite a while.
>>
>> Robert
>>
>> [1] https://wiki.openjdk.java.net/display/quality/Quality+Outreach

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Re: Drop Java 9 and 10 from asfMavenTlpStdBuild()

Posted by Sylwester Lachiewicz <sl...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
for Java 12 we have MNG-6522:
- we have PR to enable ITs with Java 12 ready (in review)
- builds Maven Core under Linux and pass all ITs with success [1]

To do and nice to have:
- install Maven 3.6 on build boxes and enable builds in the jenkinsEnv
matrix - now we are building only with 3.5.4
- on Windows machines we need JDK 12-ea installed - now tests fail (locally
all test pass)

All code in branches MNG-6552 in maven and ITs at gitbox repo.

Sylwester

[1]
https://builds.apache.org/view/M-R/view/Maven/job/maven-box/job/maven/job/MNG-6522/


wt., 25 gru 2018 o 22:36 Robert Scholte <rf...@apache.org> napisał(a):

> On Tue, 25 Dec 2018 22:18:59 +0100, Enrico Olivelli <eo...@gmail.com>
>
> wrote:
>
> > We could join jdk outreach quality process
>
> We're already on that list[1] for quite a while.
>
> Robert
>
> [1] https://wiki.openjdk.java.net/display/quality/Quality+Outreach
>
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Re: Drop Java 9 and 10 from asfMavenTlpStdBuild()

Posted by Robert Scholte <rf...@apache.org>.
On Tue, 25 Dec 2018 22:18:59 +0100, Enrico Olivelli <eo...@gmail.com>  
wrote:

> We could join jdk outreach quality process

We're already on that list[1] for quite a while.

Robert

[1] https://wiki.openjdk.java.net/display/quality/Quality+Outreach

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Re: Drop Java 9 and 10 from asfMavenTlpStdBuild()

Posted by Enrico Olivelli <eo...@gmail.com>.
+1 for dropping j9 and j10.

 +1 for adding jdk12 soon, in my company we are already running all builds
(with Maven 3.6.0) on ea and all is working fine.

We could join jdk outreach quality process

Enrico

Il mar 25 dic 2018, 21:11 Robert Scholte <rf...@apache.org> ha scritto:

> On Tue, 25 Dec 2018 20:44:33 +0100, Michael Osipov <mi...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Am 2018-12-25 um 20:38 schrieb Robert Scholte:
> >> Java 9 and 10 have the same status as Java 1.7 right now.
> >
> > I don't think so. Java 7 still receives updates whereas 9 and 10 are
> > dead. You can go to OpenJDK 7 or Zulu 7, this is what I use for testing.
>
> It all depends on the vendor and licensing. OpenJDK doesn't have any LTS,
> Zulu has something called MTS for Java 9[1].
> We might need to discuss this once we get issues related to unsupported
> JDKs and how to handle them. For now it is too early and for me not worth
> it. It could very well be this situation won't occur.
>
> Robert
>
> ps. in the beginning of next year we should start adding Java 12 to the
> defaults, to confirm all is still working fine.
>
> [1] https://www.azul.com/products/azul_support_roadmap/
>
>
> >
> >> Knowing that the majority of Java projects/developers will go from 1.8
> >> to 11 (because this is in the first LTS for some vendors) it probably
> >> makes sense to drop these versions by default.
> >> I'll remove them.
> >
> > Thanks, dropping 9 and 10 will speed up Jenkins jobs.
> >
> >> Robert
> >>  On Tue, 25 Dec 2018 19:16:11 +0100, Michael Osipov
> >> <mi...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Friends,
> >>>
> >>> can someone drop those version from the Jenkins config? They aren't
> >>> supported anymore and were short term releases anyway.
> >>>
> >>> Michael
> >>>
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-- Enrico Olivelli

Re: Drop Java 9 and 10 from asfMavenTlpStdBuild()

Posted by Robert Scholte <rf...@apache.org>.
On Tue, 25 Dec 2018 20:44:33 +0100, Michael Osipov <mi...@apache.org>  
wrote:

> Am 2018-12-25 um 20:38 schrieb Robert Scholte:
>> Java 9 and 10 have the same status as Java 1.7 right now.
>
> I don't think so. Java 7 still receives updates whereas 9 and 10 are  
> dead. You can go to OpenJDK 7 or Zulu 7, this is what I use for testing.

It all depends on the vendor and licensing. OpenJDK doesn't have any LTS,  
Zulu has something called MTS for Java 9[1].
We might need to discuss this once we get issues related to unsupported  
JDKs and how to handle them. For now it is too early and for me not worth  
it. It could very well be this situation won't occur.

Robert

ps. in the beginning of next year we should start adding Java 12 to the  
defaults, to confirm all is still working fine.

[1] https://www.azul.com/products/azul_support_roadmap/


>
>> Knowing that the majority of Java projects/developers will go from 1.8  
>> to 11 (because this is in the first LTS for some vendors) it probably  
>> makes sense to drop these versions by default.
>> I'll remove them.
>
> Thanks, dropping 9 and 10 will speed up Jenkins jobs.
>
>> Robert
>>  On Tue, 25 Dec 2018 19:16:11 +0100, Michael Osipov  
>> <mi...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Friends,
>>>
>>> can someone drop those version from the Jenkins config? They aren't  
>>> supported anymore and were short term releases anyway.
>>>
>>> Michael
>>>
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Re: Drop Java 9 and 10 from asfMavenTlpStdBuild()

Posted by Michael Osipov <mi...@apache.org>.
Am 2018-12-25 um 20:38 schrieb Robert Scholte:
> Java 9 and 10 have the same status as Java 1.7 right now.

I don't think so. Java 7 still receives updates whereas 9 and 10 are 
dead. You can go to OpenJDK 7 or Zulu 7, this is what I use for testing.

> Knowing that the majority of Java projects/developers will go from 1.8 
> to 11 (because this is in the first LTS for some vendors) it probably 
> makes sense to drop these versions by default.
> I'll remove them.

Thanks, dropping 9 and 10 will speed up Jenkins jobs.

> Robert
> 
> On Tue, 25 Dec 2018 19:16:11 +0100, Michael Osipov <mi...@apache.org> 
> wrote:
> 
>> Friends,
>>
>> can someone drop those version from the Jenkins config? They aren't 
>> supported anymore and were short term releases anyway.
>>
>> Michael
>>
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Re: Drop Java 9 and 10 from asfMavenTlpStdBuild()

Posted by Robert Scholte <rf...@apache.org>.
Java 9 and 10 have the same status as Java 1.7 right now.
Knowing that the majority of Java projects/developers will go from 1.8 to  
11 (because this is in the first LTS for some vendors) it probably makes  
sense to drop these versions by default.
I'll remove them.

Robert

On Tue, 25 Dec 2018 19:16:11 +0100, Michael Osipov <mi...@apache.org>  
wrote:

> Friends,
>
> can someone drop those version from the Jenkins config? They aren't  
> supported anymore and were short term releases anyway.
>
> Michael
>
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