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Posted to general@incubator.apache.org by Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com> on 2011/08/03 10:00:12 UTC
Re: Retire Olio?
Pinging on this thread.
Are there alternatives other than retiring? ie) Things that could be
done to bring it to life? Other communities it could join?
Hen
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 11:07 PM, Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1 (non-binding).
>
> Note that they've not signed off on their copyright item, so we should
> delete the svn tree or get that signed off before hand.
>
> Hen
>
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Noel J. Bergman <no...@devtech.com> wrote:
>> I see no development in 18 months. Is it time to terminate?
>>
>> --- Noel
>>
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Re: Retire Olio?
Posted by Craig L Russell <cr...@oracle.com>.
Nothing like that has been filed.
Craig
On Aug 3, 2011, at 4:11 PM, Shanti Subramanyam (gmail) wrote:
> It was called the web2.0kit or some such.
>
> Shanti
>
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Craig L Russell <craig.russell@oracle.com
> >wrote:
>
>> Hi Shanti,
>>
>> I don't see a ccla or grant from sun for olio. What was the
>> original name
>> of the technology?
>>
>> Craig
>>
>>
>> On Aug 3, 2011, at 3:12 PM, Shanti Subramanyam (gmail) wrote:
>>
>> I had made sure that all the original contributors had signed the
>> Apache
>>> ICLA. I also had Sun sign the software grant agreement (forgot
>>> what it was
>>> called). So we should be good on that front - can you please check
>>> that
>>> Apache has these agreements?
>>>
>>> Shanti
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Craig L Russell <craig.russell@oracle.com
>>>> **wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Shanti,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Aug 3, 2011, at 1:31 PM, Shanti Subramanyam (gmail) wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Craig,
>>>>
>>>>> Where can I find info on the copyright/CLA stuff?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> It's in the incubator guides. Basically, everyone who wrote code,
>>>> doc, or
>>>> tests for any of the components needs to have an ICLA on file. If
>>>> we can
>>>> verify all the code was written by folks with an ICLA on file,
>>>> then all
>>>> we
>>>> need is to update the status file to reflect that.
>>>>
>>>> Since it's an existing code base, a grant from Oracle (would have
>>>> been
>>>> Sun)
>>>> would be nice to have.
>>>>
>>>> Craig
>>>>
>>>> As I mentioned in my board report, nobody seems interested in
>>>> maintaining
>>>>
>>>>> the project. Some folks have been kind enough to submit a few
>>>>> patches
>>>>> for
>>>>> problems they ran into which I have checked in. Beyond that, I'm
>>>>> not
>>>>> hearing
>>>>> anything and activity on the user list has dropped off as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Personally, I'm happy to continue to help maintain the project.
>>>>> I am
>>>>> most
>>>>> familiar with the PHP and to a certain extent the Java
>>>>> implementation of
>>>>> the
>>>>> app, but the rails version is the big gap. I can maintain the
>>>>> workload
>>>>> portion for all 3 as well.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Shanti
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Craig L Russell
>>>>> <cr...@oracle.com>****wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> We need to at least complete the copyright/CLA/grant process in
>>>>> order
>>>>> for
>>>>>
>>>>>> the work we have done here to *not* be wasted.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Of all the folks who have downloaded the project and are using
>>>>>> it, is
>>>>>> there
>>>>>> any interest in seeing it continue?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Even with a small number of folks who know how it works and can
>>>>>> maintain
>>>>>> it, we could see it continue as a sub-project in Apache.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Other ideas?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Craig
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Date: August 3, 2011 1:00:12 AM PDT
>>>>>>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: Retire Olio?
>>>>>>> Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Pinging on this thread.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Are there alternatives other than retiring? ie) Things that
>>>>>>> could be
>>>>>>> done to bring it to life? Other communities it could join?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 11:07 PM, Henri Yandell <flamefew@gmail.com
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> +1 (non-binding).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Note that they've not signed off on their copyright item, so we
>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>> delete the svn tree or get that signed off before hand.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hen
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Noel J. Bergman <noel@devtech.com
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I see no development in 18 months. Is it time to terminate?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --- Noel
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Craig L Russell
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Architect, Oracle
>>>>>> http://db.apache.org/jdo
>>>>>> 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@oracle.******com <
>>>>>> Craig.Russell@oracle.com>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Craig L Russell
>>>> Architect, Oracle
>>>> http://db.apache.org/jdo
>>>> 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@oracle.****com <
>>>> Craig.Russell@oracle.com>
>>>> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>> Craig L Russell
>> Architect, Oracle
>> http://db.apache.org/jdo
>> 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@oracle.**com <Craig.Russell@oracle.com
>> >
>> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
>>
>>
Craig L Russell
Architect, Oracle
http://db.apache.org/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@oracle.com
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
Re: Retire Olio?
Posted by "Shanti Subramanyam (gmail)" <sh...@gmail.com>.
It was called the web2.0kit or some such.
Shanti
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 3:39 PM, Craig L Russell <cr...@oracle.com>wrote:
> Hi Shanti,
>
> I don't see a ccla or grant from sun for olio. What was the original name
> of the technology?
>
> Craig
>
>
> On Aug 3, 2011, at 3:12 PM, Shanti Subramanyam (gmail) wrote:
>
> I had made sure that all the original contributors had signed the Apache
>> ICLA. I also had Sun sign the software grant agreement (forgot what it was
>> called). So we should be good on that front - can you please check that
>> Apache has these agreements?
>>
>> Shanti
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Craig L Russell <craig.russell@oracle.com
>> >**wrote:
>>
>> Hi Shanti,
>>>
>>>
>>> On Aug 3, 2011, at 1:31 PM, Shanti Subramanyam (gmail) wrote:
>>>
>>> Craig,
>>>
>>>> Where can I find info on the copyright/CLA stuff?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> It's in the incubator guides. Basically, everyone who wrote code, doc, or
>>> tests for any of the components needs to have an ICLA on file. If we can
>>> verify all the code was written by folks with an ICLA on file, then all
>>> we
>>> need is to update the status file to reflect that.
>>>
>>> Since it's an existing code base, a grant from Oracle (would have been
>>> Sun)
>>> would be nice to have.
>>>
>>> Craig
>>>
>>> As I mentioned in my board report, nobody seems interested in maintaining
>>>
>>>> the project. Some folks have been kind enough to submit a few patches
>>>> for
>>>> problems they ran into which I have checked in. Beyond that, I'm not
>>>> hearing
>>>> anything and activity on the user list has dropped off as well.
>>>>
>>>> Personally, I'm happy to continue to help maintain the project. I am
>>>> most
>>>> familiar with the PHP and to a certain extent the Java implementation of
>>>> the
>>>> app, but the rails version is the big gap. I can maintain the workload
>>>> portion for all 3 as well.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Shanti
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Craig L Russell
>>>> <cr...@oracle.com>****wrote:
>>>>
>>>> We need to at least complete the copyright/CLA/grant process in order
>>>> for
>>>>
>>>>> the work we have done here to *not* be wasted.
>>>>>
>>>>> Of all the folks who have downloaded the project and are using it, is
>>>>> there
>>>>> any interest in seeing it continue?
>>>>>
>>>>> Even with a small number of folks who know how it works and can
>>>>> maintain
>>>>> it, we could see it continue as a sub-project in Apache.
>>>>>
>>>>> Other ideas?
>>>>>
>>>>> Craig
>>>>>
>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> Date: August 3, 2011 1:00:12 AM PDT
>>>>>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>>>>>> Subject: Re: Retire Olio?
>>>>>> Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pinging on this thread.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Are there alternatives other than retiring? ie) Things that could be
>>>>>> done to bring it to life? Other communities it could join?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hen
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 11:07 PM, Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> +1 (non-binding).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Note that they've not signed off on their copyright item, so we
>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>> delete the svn tree or get that signed off before hand.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hen
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Noel J. Bergman <no...@devtech.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I see no development in 18 months. Is it time to terminate?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --- Noel
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> ------------------------------******--------------------------**
>>>>>>>> --**--**
>>>>>>>> ---------
>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.******
>>>>>>>> apache.org<
>>>>>>>> general-**unsubscribe@**incubator.apache.**org<general**
>>>>>>>> -unsubscribe@incubator.apache.**org<ge...@incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.**
>>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>> **org<general-help@incubator.****apache.org<general-help@**
>>>>>>>> incubator.apache.org <ge...@incubator.apache.org>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
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>>>>>> ****org<
>>>>>> general-help@incubator.**apach**e.org <http://apache.org> <
>>>>>> general-help@incubator.**apache.org<ge...@incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Craig L Russell
>>>>>>
>>>>> Architect, Oracle
>>>>> http://db.apache.org/jdo
>>>>> 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@oracle.******com <
>>>>> Craig.Russell@oracle.com>
>>>>>
>>>>> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Craig L Russell
>>> Architect, Oracle
>>> http://db.apache.org/jdo
>>> 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@oracle.****com <
>>> Craig.Russell@oracle.com>
>>> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
>>>
>>>
>>>
> Craig L Russell
> Architect, Oracle
> http://db.apache.org/jdo
> 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@oracle.**com <Cr...@oracle.com>
> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
>
>
Re: Retire Olio?
Posted by Craig L Russell <cr...@oracle.com>.
Hi Shanti,
I don't see a ccla or grant from sun for olio. What was the original
name of the technology?
Craig
On Aug 3, 2011, at 3:12 PM, Shanti Subramanyam (gmail) wrote:
> I had made sure that all the original contributors had signed the
> Apache
> ICLA. I also had Sun sign the software grant agreement (forgot what
> it was
> called). So we should be good on that front - can you please check
> that
> Apache has these agreements?
>
> Shanti
>
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Craig L Russell <craig.russell@oracle.com
> >wrote:
>
>> Hi Shanti,
>>
>>
>> On Aug 3, 2011, at 1:31 PM, Shanti Subramanyam (gmail) wrote:
>>
>> Craig,
>>> Where can I find info on the copyright/CLA stuff?
>>>
>>
>> It's in the incubator guides. Basically, everyone who wrote code,
>> doc, or
>> tests for any of the components needs to have an ICLA on file. If
>> we can
>> verify all the code was written by folks with an ICLA on file, then
>> all we
>> need is to update the status file to reflect that.
>>
>> Since it's an existing code base, a grant from Oracle (would have
>> been Sun)
>> would be nice to have.
>>
>> Craig
>>
>> As I mentioned in my board report, nobody seems interested in
>> maintaining
>>> the project. Some folks have been kind enough to submit a few
>>> patches for
>>> problems they ran into which I have checked in. Beyond that, I'm not
>>> hearing
>>> anything and activity on the user list has dropped off as well.
>>>
>>> Personally, I'm happy to continue to help maintain the project. I
>>> am most
>>> familiar with the PHP and to a certain extent the Java
>>> implementation of
>>> the
>>> app, but the rails version is the big gap. I can maintain the
>>> workload
>>> portion for all 3 as well.
>>>
>>>
>>> Shanti
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Craig L Russell
>>> <cr...@oracle.com>**wrote:
>>>
>>> We need to at least complete the copyright/CLA/grant process in
>>> order for
>>>> the work we have done here to *not* be wasted.
>>>>
>>>> Of all the folks who have downloaded the project and are using
>>>> it, is
>>>> there
>>>> any interest in seeing it continue?
>>>>
>>>> Even with a small number of folks who know how it works and can
>>>> maintain
>>>> it, we could see it continue as a sub-project in Apache.
>>>>
>>>> Other ideas?
>>>>
>>>> Craig
>>>>
>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>
>>>> From: Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com>
>>>>
>>>>> Date: August 3, 2011 1:00:12 AM PDT
>>>>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>>>>> Subject: Re: Retire Olio?
>>>>> Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Pinging on this thread.
>>>>>
>>>>> Are there alternatives other than retiring? ie) Things that
>>>>> could be
>>>>> done to bring it to life? Other communities it could join?
>>>>>
>>>>> Hen
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 11:07 PM, Henri Yandell <flamefew@gmail.com
>>>>> >
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> +1 (non-binding).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Note that they've not signed off on their copyright item, so we
>>>>>> should
>>>>>> delete the svn tree or get that signed off before hand.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hen
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Noel J. Bergman <noel@devtech.com
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I see no development in 18 months. Is it time to terminate?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --- Noel
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ------------------------------****----------------------------
>>>>>>> **--**
>>>>>>> ---------
>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-
>>>>>>> unsubscribe@incubator.****apache.org<
>>>>>>> general-**unsubscribe@incubator.apache.**org<general-unsubscribe@incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> help@incubator.apache.**
>>>>>>> **org<general-help@incubator.**apache.org<general-help@incubator.apache.org
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Craig L Russell
>>>> Architect, Oracle
>>>> http://db.apache.org/jdo
>>>> 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@oracle.****com <
>>>> Craig.Russell@oracle.com>
>>>>
>>>> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>> Craig L Russell
>> Architect, Oracle
>> http://db.apache.org/jdo
>> 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@oracle.**com <Craig.Russell@oracle.com
>> >
>> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
>>
>>
Craig L Russell
Architect, Oracle
http://db.apache.org/jdo
408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@oracle.com
P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
Re: Retire Olio?
Posted by "Shanti Subramanyam (gmail)" <sh...@gmail.com>.
I had made sure that all the original contributors had signed the Apache
ICLA. I also had Sun sign the software grant agreement (forgot what it was
called). So we should be good on that front - can you please check that
Apache has these agreements?
Shanti
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Craig L Russell <cr...@oracle.com>wrote:
> Hi Shanti,
>
>
> On Aug 3, 2011, at 1:31 PM, Shanti Subramanyam (gmail) wrote:
>
> Craig,
>> Where can I find info on the copyright/CLA stuff?
>>
>
> It's in the incubator guides. Basically, everyone who wrote code, doc, or
> tests for any of the components needs to have an ICLA on file. If we can
> verify all the code was written by folks with an ICLA on file, then all we
> need is to update the status file to reflect that.
>
> Since it's an existing code base, a grant from Oracle (would have been Sun)
> would be nice to have.
>
> Craig
>
> As I mentioned in my board report, nobody seems interested in maintaining
>> the project. Some folks have been kind enough to submit a few patches for
>> problems they ran into which I have checked in. Beyond that, I'm not
>> hearing
>> anything and activity on the user list has dropped off as well.
>>
>> Personally, I'm happy to continue to help maintain the project. I am most
>> familiar with the PHP and to a certain extent the Java implementation of
>> the
>> app, but the rails version is the big gap. I can maintain the workload
>> portion for all 3 as well.
>>
>>
>> Shanti
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Craig L Russell
>> <cr...@oracle.com>**wrote:
>>
>> We need to at least complete the copyright/CLA/grant process in order for
>>> the work we have done here to *not* be wasted.
>>>
>>> Of all the folks who have downloaded the project and are using it, is
>>> there
>>> any interest in seeing it continue?
>>>
>>> Even with a small number of folks who know how it works and can maintain
>>> it, we could see it continue as a sub-project in Apache.
>>>
>>> Other ideas?
>>>
>>> Craig
>>>
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>
>>> From: Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com>
>>>
>>>> Date: August 3, 2011 1:00:12 AM PDT
>>>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>>>> Subject: Re: Retire Olio?
>>>> Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Pinging on this thread.
>>>>
>>>> Are there alternatives other than retiring? ie) Things that could be
>>>> done to bring it to life? Other communities it could join?
>>>>
>>>> Hen
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 11:07 PM, Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> +1 (non-binding).
>>>>>
>>>>> Note that they've not signed off on their copyright item, so we should
>>>>> delete the svn tree or get that signed off before hand.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hen
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Noel J. Bergman <no...@devtech.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I see no development in 18 months. Is it time to terminate?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --- Noel
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ------------------------------****----------------------------**--**
>>>>>> ---------
>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscribe@incubator.****apache.org<
>>>>>> general-**unsubscribe@incubator.apache.**org<ge...@incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: general-help@incubator.apache.**
>>>>>> **org<ge...@incubator.apache.org>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>> >
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>>>> general-help@incubator.**apache.org <ge...@incubator.apache.org>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Craig L Russell
>>> Architect, Oracle
>>> http://db.apache.org/jdo
>>> 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@oracle.****com <
>>> Craig.Russell@oracle.com>
>>>
>>> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
>>>
>>>
>>>
> Craig L Russell
> Architect, Oracle
> http://db.apache.org/jdo
> 408 276-5638 mailto:Craig.Russell@oracle.**com <Cr...@oracle.com>
> P.S. A good JDO? O, Gasp!
>
>
Re: Retire Olio?
Posted by Craig L Russell <cr...@oracle.com>.
Hi Shanti,
On Aug 3, 2011, at 1:31 PM, Shanti Subramanyam (gmail) wrote:
> Craig,
> Where can I find info on the copyright/CLA stuff?
It's in the incubator guides. Basically, everyone who wrote code, doc,
or tests for any of the components needs to have an ICLA on file. If
we can verify all the code was written by folks with an ICLA on file,
then all we need is to update the status file to reflect that.
Since it's an existing code base, a grant from Oracle (would have been
Sun) would be nice to have.
Craig
> As I mentioned in my board report, nobody seems interested in
> maintaining
> the project. Some folks have been kind enough to submit a few
> patches for
> problems they ran into which I have checked in. Beyond that, I'm not
> hearing
> anything and activity on the user list has dropped off as well.
>
> Personally, I'm happy to continue to help maintain the project. I am
> most
> familiar with the PHP and to a certain extent the Java
> implementation of the
> app, but the rails version is the big gap. I can maintain the workload
> portion for all 3 as well.
>
>
> Shanti
>
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Craig L Russell
> <cr...@oracle.com>wrote:
>
>> We need to at least complete the copyright/CLA/grant process in
>> order for
>> the work we have done here to *not* be wasted.
>>
>> Of all the folks who have downloaded the project and are using it,
>> is there
>> any interest in seeing it continue?
>>
>> Even with a small number of folks who know how it works and can
>> maintain
>> it, we could see it continue as a sub-project in Apache.
>>
>> Other ideas?
>>
>> Craig
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>> From: Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com>
>>> Date: August 3, 2011 1:00:12 AM PDT
>>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>>> Subject: Re: Retire Olio?
>>> Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org
>>>
>>>
>>> Pinging on this thread.
>>>
>>> Are there alternatives other than retiring? ie) Things that could be
>>> done to bring it to life? Other communities it could join?
>>>
>>> Hen
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 11:07 PM, Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> +1 (non-binding).
>>>>
>>>> Note that they've not signed off on their copyright item, so we
>>>> should
>>>> delete the svn tree or get that signed off before hand.
>>>>
>>>> Hen
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Noel J. Bergman
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>>>>> I see no development in 18 months. Is it time to terminate?
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Re: Retire Olio?
Posted by "Shanti Subramanyam (gmail)" <sh...@gmail.com>.
Craig,
Where can I find info on the copyright/CLA stuff?
As I mentioned in my board report, nobody seems interested in maintaining
the project. Some folks have been kind enough to submit a few patches for
problems they ran into which I have checked in. Beyond that, I'm not hearing
anything and activity on the user list has dropped off as well.
Personally, I'm happy to continue to help maintain the project. I am most
familiar with the PHP and to a certain extent the Java implementation of the
app, but the rails version is the big gap. I can maintain the workload
portion for all 3 as well.
Shanti
On Wed, Aug 3, 2011 at 11:18 AM, Craig L Russell
<cr...@oracle.com>wrote:
> We need to at least complete the copyright/CLA/grant process in order for
> the work we have done here to *not* be wasted.
>
> Of all the folks who have downloaded the project and are using it, is there
> any interest in seeing it continue?
>
> Even with a small number of folks who know how it works and can maintain
> it, we could see it continue as a sub-project in Apache.
>
> Other ideas?
>
> Craig
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com>
>> Date: August 3, 2011 1:00:12 AM PDT
>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: Retire Olio?
>> Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org
>>
>>
>> Pinging on this thread.
>>
>> Are there alternatives other than retiring? ie) Things that could be
>> done to bring it to life? Other communities it could join?
>>
>> Hen
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 11:07 PM, Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> +1 (non-binding).
>>>
>>> Note that they've not signed off on their copyright item, so we should
>>> delete the svn tree or get that signed off before hand.
>>>
>>> Hen
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Noel J. Bergman <no...@devtech.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I see no development in 18 months. Is it time to terminate?
>>>>
>>>> --- Noel
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Fwd: Retire Olio?
Posted by Craig L Russell <cr...@oracle.com>.
We need to at least complete the copyright/CLA/grant process in order
for the work we have done here to *not* be wasted.
Of all the folks who have downloaded the project and are using it, is
there any interest in seeing it continue?
Even with a small number of folks who know how it works and can
maintain it, we could see it continue as a sub-project in Apache.
Other ideas?
Craig
Begin forwarded message:
> From: Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com>
> Date: August 3, 2011 1:00:12 AM PDT
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Retire Olio?
> Reply-To: general@incubator.apache.org
>
> Pinging on this thread.
>
> Are there alternatives other than retiring? ie) Things that could be
> done to bring it to life? Other communities it could join?
>
> Hen
>
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 11:07 PM, Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> +1 (non-binding).
>>
>> Note that they've not signed off on their copyright item, so we
>> should
>> delete the svn tree or get that signed off before hand.
>>
>> Hen
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Noel J. Bergman
>> <no...@devtech.com> wrote:
>>> I see no development in 18 months. Is it time to terminate?
>>>
>>> --- Noel
>>>
>>>
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Re: Retire Olio?
Posted by "William A. Rowe Jr." <wr...@rowe-clan.net>.
On 8/17/2011 12:47 AM, Henri Yandell wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 10:40 PM, William A. Rowe Jr.
> <wr...@rowe-clan.net> wrote:
>> On 8/17/2011 12:37 AM, Henri Yandell wrote:
>>> The copyright item isn't signed off at
>>> https://incubator.apache.org/projects/olio.html.
>>>
>>> So would need to delete the code (assuming a successful retirement vote).
>>
>> Where are the mentors?
>>
>> Wondering how conflicted-providence IP would hit svn in the first place.
>
> Digging a bit:
>
> "Initial Olio code dump from Sun" by clr. r700550
> "Added rails webapp" by wsobel. r705828
> "Adding Web20Emulator" by sheetal. r706388
>
> There were other large adds, but those were the three initial big ones.
>
> I don't see any software grants relating to Olio. I see lots in the
> board reports about struggling to get committer diversity because the
> committers were at 3 corporations.
>
> I don't believe that conflicted-providence IP would have hit svn, yet
> if it's not signed off and (assuming no one steps up to say otherwise)
> I think delete is the only option we have.
Agreed. Unless the mentors can check off that checkbox prior to the
project's dormancy, svn will need to be rm'ed.
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Re: Retire Olio?
Posted by Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Aug 16, 2011 at 10:40 PM, William A. Rowe Jr.
<wr...@rowe-clan.net> wrote:
> On 8/17/2011 12:37 AM, Henri Yandell wrote:
>> The copyright item isn't signed off at
>> https://incubator.apache.org/projects/olio.html.
>>
>> So would need to delete the code (assuming a successful retirement vote).
>
> Where are the mentors?
>
> Wondering how conflicted-providence IP would hit svn in the first place.
Digging a bit:
"Initial Olio code dump from Sun" by clr. r700550
"Added rails webapp" by wsobel. r705828
"Adding Web20Emulator" by sheetal. r706388
There were other large adds, but those were the three initial big ones.
I don't see any software grants relating to Olio. I see lots in the
board reports about struggling to get committer diversity because the
committers were at 3 corporations.
I don't believe that conflicted-providence IP would have hit svn, yet
if it's not signed off and (assuming no one steps up to say otherwise)
I think delete is the only option we have.
Hen
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Re: Retire Olio?
Posted by "William A. Rowe Jr." <wr...@rowe-clan.net>.
On 8/17/2011 12:37 AM, Henri Yandell wrote:
> The copyright item isn't signed off at
> https://incubator.apache.org/projects/olio.html.
>
> So would need to delete the code (assuming a successful retirement vote).
Where are the mentors?
Wondering how conflicted-providence IP would hit svn in the first place.
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Re: Retire Olio?
Posted by Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com>.
The copyright item isn't signed off at
https://incubator.apache.org/projects/olio.html.
So would need to delete the code (assuming a successful retirement vote).
Hen
On Mon, Aug 15, 2011 at 8:26 PM, Noel J. Bergman <no...@devtech.com> wrote:
> I don't see anything that suggests the community is viable. No response to
> Hen's ping, for example.
>
> Should we move ahead with moving the project to dormant status? Do we have
> provenance such that we can leave a read-only SVN?
>
> --- Noel
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Henri Yandell [mailto:flamefew@gmail.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 4:00
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: Retire Olio?
>
>
> Pinging on this thread.
>
> Are there alternatives other than retiring? ie) Things that could be
> done to bring it to life? Other communities it could join?
>
> Hen
>
> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 11:07 PM, Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> +1 (non-binding).
>>
>> Note that they've not signed off on their copyright item, so we should
>> delete the svn tree or get that signed off before hand.
>>
>> Hen
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Noel J. Bergman <no...@devtech.com>
> wrote:
>>> I see no development in 18 months. Is it time to terminate?
>>>
>>> --- Noel
>>>
>>>
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RE: Retire Olio?
Posted by "Noel J. Bergman" <no...@devtech.com>.
I don't see anything that suggests the community is viable. No response to
Hen's ping, for example.
Should we move ahead with moving the project to dormant status? Do we have
provenance such that we can leave a read-only SVN?
--- Noel
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From: Henri Yandell [mailto:flamefew@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, August 03, 2011 4:00
To: general@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Retire Olio?
Pinging on this thread.
Are there alternatives other than retiring? ie) Things that could be
done to bring it to life? Other communities it could join?
Hen
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 11:07 PM, Henri Yandell <fl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1 (non-binding).
>
> Note that they've not signed off on their copyright item, so we should
> delete the svn tree or get that signed off before hand.
>
> Hen
>
> On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Noel J. Bergman <no...@devtech.com>
wrote:
>> I see no development in 18 months. Is it time to terminate?
>>
>> --- Noel
>>
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