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Posted to user@karaf.apache.org by Jörg Jansen <Jo...@inform-software.com> on 2021/05/19 18:44:07 UTC

Memory usage camel-activemq & karaf 4.3.1

Good evening everybody,

Currently I’m using camel-3.7.4 and karaf 4.3.1.
I’ve recognized a strange behavior, when using camel-activemq feature.

It seems, that from karaf version 4.3.1 the memory usage “explodes”, as soon as the temporary data are created during startup.
After a while, the memory usage is decreasing again but at startup it rexerved up to ~2GB of memory.

In the picture below, you can see the occupied memory, in case I startup karaf without the camel-activemq feature. Here, the allocated memory is 512MB wihch is fine.
[cid:image002.png@01D74CEF.91EC5BC0]

In the following picture, you can see the startup with camel-activemq as a boo feature.
[cid:image001.png@01D74CEE.F5E4A9D0]

I hope this is the correct mailing list, or should belong the camel one?
In that case please bothering you 😊

Wondering if anyone else recognized this behavior.

Any help would be very appreciated!

Kind regards,
Joerg

Re: Memory usage camel-activemq & karaf 4.3.1

Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Hi Joerg,

Thanks for sharing. I will update camel-jms documentation, you are right it’s confusing ;)

Regards
JB

> Le 25 mai 2021 à 15:41, Jörg Jansen <Jo...@inform-software.com> a écrit :
> 
> Hi JB,
>  
> once again, thanks for your reply.
> Replacing camel-activemq by camel-jms solved the memory consumption.
>  
> There were only two items, whichI  would like to share, or anyone who might be affected:
>  
> When using pax-jms  in combination with the maven-bundle-plugin, I had to remove the headers Import-Service,Export-Service. Otherwise the connection factory could not be found.
> The camel-jms documentation still recommends to use camel-activemq, which is quite confusing.
>  
> Also the provided example (https://github.com/apache/karaf/tree/main/examples/karaf-jms-example/karaf-jms-example-features <https://github.com/apache/karaf/tree/main/examples/karaf-jms-example/karaf-jms-example-features>) was very helpful. 
>  
> Thanks again,
> Joerg
>  
> From: Jörg Jansen 
> Sent: Donnerstag, 20. Mai 2021 08:00
> To: user <us...@karaf.apache.org>
> Subject: RE: Memory usage camel-activemq & karaf 4.3.1
>  
> Hi JB,
>  
> thanks for your feedback.
>  
> Currently, we are using both, camel-activemq and the activemqbroker. 
> But the displayed difference is only when adding the camel-activemq feature.
>  
> As the application was based on servicemix before, this behavior is still an old relict 😉.
> I’ll try to change everything to jms and come back  with the result.
>  
> If camel-activemq is still based on camel2, might it be a good idea, to mark it as deprecated, with the hint to replace it by camel-jms?
>  
> Kind regards,
> Joerg
>  
> From: Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb@nanthrax.net <ma...@nanthrax.net>> 
> Sent: Donnerstag, 20. Mai 2021 06:06
> To: user <user@karaf.apache.org <ma...@karaf.apache.org>>
> Subject: Re: Memory usage camel-activemq & karaf 4.3.1
>  
> Hi Joerg,
>  
> Do you install "just" camel-activemq feature or activemq-broker one as well ?
>  
> I guess it doesn’t happen if you use camel-jms ?
>  
> Generally speaking, I recommend to use camel-jms instead of camel-activemq. The main reason is that camel-activemq is still Camel 2.x and you are using Camel 3.x. You can achieve quite the same thing with camel-jms.
>  
> Regards
> JB
>  
> 
> Le 19 mai 2021 à 20:44, Jörg Jansen <Joerg.Jansen@inform-software.com <ma...@inform-software.com>> a écrit :
>  
> Good evening everybody, 
>  
> Currently I’m using camel-3.7.4 and karaf 4.3.1.
> I’ve recognized a strange behavior, when using camel-activemq feature.
>  
> It seems, that from karaf version 4.3.1 the memory usage “explodes”, as soon as the temporary data are created during startup.
> After a while, the memory usage is decreasing again but at startup it rexerved up to ~2GB of memory.
>  
> In the picture below, you can see the occupied memory, in case I startup karaf without the camel-activemq feature. Here, the allocated memory is 512MB wihch is fine.
> <image002.png>
> 
> In the following picture, you can see the startup with camel-activemq as a boo feature.
> <image001.png>
>  
> I hope this is the correct mailing list, or should belong the camel one?
> In that case please bothering you 😊
>  
> Wondering if anyone else recognized this behavior.
>  
> Any help would be very appreciated!
>  
> Kind regards,
> Joerg


RE: Memory usage camel-activemq & karaf 4.3.1

Posted by Jörg Jansen <Jo...@inform-software.com>.
Hi JB,

once again, thanks for your reply.
Replacing camel-activemq by camel-jms solved the memory consumption.

There were only two items, whichI  would like to share, or anyone who might be affected:


  1.  When using pax-jms  in combination with the maven-bundle-plugin, I had to remove the headers Import-Service,Export-Service. Otherwise the connection factory could not be found.
  2.  The camel-jms documentation still recommends to use camel-activemq, which is quite confusing.

Also the provided example (https://github.com/apache/karaf/tree/main/examples/karaf-jms-example/karaf-jms-example-features) was very helpful.

Thanks again,
Joerg

From: Jörg Jansen
Sent: Donnerstag, 20. Mai 2021 08:00
To: user <us...@karaf.apache.org>
Subject: RE: Memory usage camel-activemq & karaf 4.3.1

Hi JB,

thanks for your feedback.

Currently, we are using both, camel-activemq and the activemqbroker.
But the displayed difference is only when adding the camel-activemq feature.

As the application was based on servicemix before, this behavior is still an old relict 😉.
I’ll try to change everything to jms and come back  with the result.

If camel-activemq is still based on camel2, might it be a good idea, to mark it as deprecated, with the hint to replace it by camel-jms?

Kind regards,
Joerg

From: Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net>>
Sent: Donnerstag, 20. Mai 2021 06:06
To: user <us...@karaf.apache.org>>
Subject: Re: Memory usage camel-activemq & karaf 4.3.1

Hi Joerg,

Do you install "just" camel-activemq feature or activemq-broker one as well ?

I guess it doesn’t happen if you use camel-jms ?

Generally speaking, I recommend to use camel-jms instead of camel-activemq. The main reason is that camel-activemq is still Camel 2.x and you are using Camel 3.x. You can achieve quite the same thing with camel-jms.

Regards
JB

Le 19 mai 2021 à 20:44, Jörg Jansen <Jo...@inform-software.com>> a écrit :

Good evening everybody,

Currently I’m using camel-3.7.4 and karaf 4.3.1.
I’ve recognized a strange behavior, when using camel-activemq feature.

It seems, that from karaf version 4.3.1 the memory usage “explodes”, as soon as the temporary data are created during startup.
After a while, the memory usage is decreasing again but at startup it rexerved up to ~2GB of memory.

In the picture below, you can see the occupied memory, in case I startup karaf without the camel-activemq feature. Here, the allocated memory is 512MB wihch is fine.
<image002.png>

In the following picture, you can see the startup with camel-activemq as a boo feature.
<image001.png>

I hope this is the correct mailing list, or should belong the camel one?
In that case please bothering you 😊

Wondering if anyone else recognized this behavior.

Any help would be very appreciated!

Kind regards,
Joerg


RE: Memory usage camel-activemq & karaf 4.3.1

Posted by Jörg Jansen <Jo...@inform-software.com>.
Hi JB,

thanks for your feedback.

Currently, we are using both, camel-activemq and the activemqbroker.
But the displayed difference is only when adding the camel-activemq feature.

As the application was based on servicemix before, this behavior is still an old relict 😉.
I’ll try to change everything to jms and come back  with the result.

If camel-activemq is still based on camel2, might it be a good idea, to mark it as deprecated, with the hint to replace it by camel-jms?

Kind regards,
Joerg

From: Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net>
Sent: Donnerstag, 20. Mai 2021 06:06
To: user <us...@karaf.apache.org>
Subject: Re: Memory usage camel-activemq & karaf 4.3.1

Hi Joerg,

Do you install "just" camel-activemq feature or activemq-broker one as well ?

I guess it doesn’t happen if you use camel-jms ?

Generally speaking, I recommend to use camel-jms instead of camel-activemq. The main reason is that camel-activemq is still Camel 2.x and you are using Camel 3.x. You can achieve quite the same thing with camel-jms.

Regards
JB


Le 19 mai 2021 à 20:44, Jörg Jansen <Jo...@inform-software.com>> a écrit :

Good evening everybody,

Currently I’m using camel-3.7.4 and karaf 4.3.1.
I’ve recognized a strange behavior, when using camel-activemq feature.

It seems, that from karaf version 4.3.1 the memory usage “explodes”, as soon as the temporary data are created during startup.
After a while, the memory usage is decreasing again but at startup it rexerved up to ~2GB of memory.

In the picture below, you can see the occupied memory, in case I startup karaf without the camel-activemq feature. Here, the allocated memory is 512MB wihch is fine.
<image002.png>

In the following picture, you can see the startup with camel-activemq as a boo feature.
<image001.png>

I hope this is the correct mailing list, or should belong the camel one?
In that case please bothering you 😊

Wondering if anyone else recognized this behavior.

Any help would be very appreciated!

Kind regards,
Joerg


Re: Memory usage camel-activemq & karaf 4.3.1

Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofre <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Hi Joerg,

Do you install "just" camel-activemq feature or activemq-broker one as well ?

I guess it doesn’t happen if you use camel-jms ?

Generally speaking, I recommend to use camel-jms instead of camel-activemq. The main reason is that camel-activemq is still Camel 2.x and you are using Camel 3.x. You can achieve quite the same thing with camel-jms.

Regards
JB

> Le 19 mai 2021 à 20:44, Jörg Jansen <Jo...@inform-software.com> a écrit :
> 
> Good evening everybody, 
>  
> Currently I’m using camel-3.7.4 and karaf 4.3.1.
> I’ve recognized a strange behavior, when using camel-activemq feature.
>  
> It seems, that from karaf version 4.3.1 the memory usage “explodes”, as soon as the temporary data are created during startup.
> After a while, the memory usage is decreasing again but at startup it rexerved up to ~2GB of memory.
>  
> In the picture below, you can see the occupied memory, in case I startup karaf without the camel-activemq feature. Here, the allocated memory is 512MB wihch is fine.
> <image002.png>
> 
> In the following picture, you can see the startup with camel-activemq as a boo feature.
> <image001.png>
>  
> I hope this is the correct mailing list, or should belong the camel one?
> In that case please bothering you 😊
>  
> Wondering if anyone else recognized this behavior.
>  
> Any help would be very appreciated!
>  
> Kind regards,
> Joerg