[DISCUSS] Voting (was: Moving the wicket-extension's repeater package to core)

[Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com>]

On 12/5/06, Sylvain Wallez <sy...@apache.org> wrote:
> Right, but what haven't you stated this when voting -1? That would have
> helped people realize that another approach is possible, especially when
> it's as simple as not deprecating ListView.

>From my original -1 vote:
> I don't like to deprecate listview. It has enough good usecases to
> keep it and promote its use. And furthermore, I would like to know
> *which* repeaters move to core...

I think that is clear enough.

> I don't see it like that. A vote was started, whose propositions led you
> to raise a veto. Now although a veto blocks the modification, it should
> be justified [1] to allow further discussion and alternative proposals,
> i.e. trigger the community dynamics.

Where in my replies do I imply that I don't want further discussion? I
can't see it.

I just didn't want this proposal to go through without it being clear
what we're voting on.

> Such alternative proposals can then
> lead to a new vote, which is what happened here.

No.... people were amending their own votes with new
possibilities/requirements outside the scope of the original proposal.
This led to different meanings of the original proposal.

What does a +1 on deprecating and moving mean when others are voting
+1 on just moving, or adding additional requirements?

I am not against discussions, nor modifying a proposal. But I don't
like changing the items we're voting on in a votes thread.

Martijn

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Re: Re: [DISCUSS] Voting (was: Moving the wicket-extension's repeater package to core)

[Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com>]

I can read everything and use all my time to track what is happening
to Wicket. My time is limited. I pick the discussions I have time for.

As far as I see the votes, I was not the only one with a concern with
deprecating listview given the number of core contributors that
amended their votes.

Martijn

On 12/5/06, Jean-Baptiste Quenot <jb...@apache.org> wrote:
> Martijn,
>
> You  could also  have  raised your  voice  before voting  happens.
> We  are discussing  the  issue  for a  while  now  and you  didn't
> participate at all.   This way, the call for vote  would have been
> closer to what you expect.
>
> Cheers,
> --
>      Jean-Baptiste Quenot
> aka  John Banana   Qwerty
> http://caraldi.com/jbq/
>


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Re: [DISCUSS] Voting (was: Moving the wicket-extension's repeater package to core)

[Jean-Baptiste Quenot <jb...@apache.org>]

Martijn,

You  could also  have  raised your  voice  before voting  happens.
We  are discussing  the  issue  for a  while  now  and you  didn't
participate at all.   This way, the call for vote  would have been
closer to what you expect.

Cheers,
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     Jean-Baptiste Quenot
aka  John Banana   Qwerty
http://caraldi.com/jbq/