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Posted to dev@whimsical.apache.org by Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com> on 2020/05/19 19:54:20 UTC

Mime types for new emeritus files for workbench

I've seen a number of emeritus files with the wrong svn:mime-type. They are fixed now (I think) but does the new secretary workbench set the mime-type for new documents received?

There are a number of places where the mime-type could be set. Can someone take a look?

Thanks,
Craig

Craig L Russell
clr@apache.org


Re: Mime types for new emeritus files for workbench

Posted by Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com>.
If we had to solve this puzzle for numerous files now and in future, I'd be happy to continue this discussion. But there was only one file. And none to come.

So I opened the file in question in handy text editor, changed it to remove formatting and saved it back.

So no more .rtf here, and I hope secretary never has to deal with another .rtf.

Ciao,
Craig

> On May 24, 2020, at 11:24 AM, Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net> wrote:
> 
> On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 7:17 PM Craig Russell <apache.clr@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>>> On May 22, 2020, at 4:29 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Fri, 22 May 2020 at 20:12, Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Sebb,
>>>> 
>>>> Yes, changing the svn:mime-type to text/pain makes Safari think that it's ok to display.
>>>> 
>>>> So I will change the mime-type for all such .eml files once I've gotten my round tuit.
>>>> 
>>>> Still have the problem with the .rtf that Safari insists on downloading. The only thing I can think of is to edit the file, change to plain text, and save as text/plain mime-type.
>>> 
>>> Why is that a problem?
>> 
>> When I look at a person using whimsy/www/committer and there are form links, it's nice to simply command-click on the file link and bring up the linked file in a browser tab. When done looking at it, I just close the tab. This will be needed to process the emeritus requests once the new buttons are added.
>> 
>> If the form link is a .rtf file, command-click opens a tab and either displays a message in the tab saying "Ok to download file?" or has a blank tab and the downloader indicates that a file has been downloaded. Then, the user has to click on the downloader button, find the downloaded .rtf file, click on it, which brings up the finder, double click on the file to open it in the user's selected ".rtf" opener, and go off to that application to read the file. Whole lotta nothing just to look at an rtf file, and then get back to Safari to continue.
> 
> Just a reminder, we have the entire resources of a web server at our disposal.
> 
> So, thinking outside of the box, and given that we are talking about
> the roster tool here, a sketch.
> 
> Add the following to the bottom of whimsy/www/roster/main.rb:
> 
> get %r{/documents/(.*)} do |document|
>  base = "https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/documents <https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/documents>"
>  auth = "--username #{env.user} --password #{env.password}"
>  content_type 'text/plain;charset=utf8'
>  `svn cat #{auth} #{base}/#{document}`
> end
> 
> With that in place, you should be able to fetch
> http://whimsy.local/roster/documents/README.txt <http://whimsy.local/roster/documents/README.txt>
> 
> There appears to be a utility to convert RTF to HTML available for Ubuntu:
> 
> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/man1/unrtf.1.html <http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/man1/unrtf.1.html>
> 
> It looks to be available via brew too.
> 
> Putting the pieces together, you could have a URL that fetches the RTF
> from SVN, uses unrtf to convert it to HTML, and then serves the result
> with the text/html mime type.
> 
> Once that is in place, you could change the committer page to link to
> this URL instead.  Either unconditionally, or conditionally based on
> the file extension.
> 
> - Sam Ruby
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>>> What should Safari do?
>> 
>> Open the file in a browser tab or window.
>> 
>>> What do other browsers do?
>> 
>> Chrome does the same as Safari but with somewhat different dialog. Same whole lotta clicks just to view the file in a different application.
>> 
>> Firefox does the same as Safari but with somewhat different dialog. Same whole lotta clicks just to view the file in a different application.
>> 
>> Craig
>>> 
>>>> Craig
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 21, 2020, at 4:53 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, 20 May 2020 at 15:48, Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Sebb,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks for that. I'm trying to get Safari to display the Emeritus file for users with .rtf and .eml suffixes and Safari wants to download them instead of viewing them. For other file types, changing the svn:mime-type on the file has fixed it (but I have no idea how Safari gets the mime-type).
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As an example, user ids scolebourne and skitching do not display the Emeritus file from the committer display. (These ids are publicly known so no security issue).
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you are referring to the 'Emeritus' link on the Whimsy committer
>>>>> page, then this is a URL of the form https://svn.apache.org/repos/...
>>>>> This is not served by Whimsy, but by the svn.apache.org server.
>>>>> The eml file for skitching is served with the content-type
>>>>> message/rfc822; this appears to be taken from the SVN mime-type
>>>>> property.
>>>>> I have temporarily changed the mime-type to text/plain, and Safari now
>>>>> displays the file rather than downloading it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Whether it makes sense to change the mime-type for all .eml files, I don't know.
>>>>> I suspect not, as some people may prefer to use a dedicated handler.
>>>>> 
>>>>> The alternative is to configure Safari to treat .eml files as text/plain.
>>>>> Whether that is possible, I have no idea.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Craig
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On May 20, 2020, at 7:20 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tue, 19 May 2020 at 20:54, Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I've seen a number of emeritus files with the wrong svn:mime-type. They are fixed now (I think) but does the new secretary workbench set the mime-type for new documents received?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Whether the mime-type is set depends on the file type.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> There are a number of places where the mime-type could be set. Can someone take a look?
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> The subversion client uses the following config files:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> /etc/subversion/config
>>>>>>> which can be overridden by
>>>>>>> ~/.subversion/config
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> AFAICT /etc/subversion/config is set up by the Puppet file:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> modules/subversionclient/files/config
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> which contains the following mime types
>>>>>>> *.doc = svn:mime-type=application/msword
>>>>>>> *.gif = svn:mime-type=image/gif
>>>>>>> *.gz = svn:mime-type=application/x-gzip
>>>>>>> *.ico = svn:mime-type=image/x-icon
>>>>>>> *.jpg = svn:mime-type=image/jpeg
>>>>>>> *.pdf = svn:mime-type=application/pdf
>>>>>>> *.png = svn:mime-type=image/png
>>>>>>> *.tar = svn:mime-type=application/octet-stream
>>>>>>> *.tgz = svn:mime-type=application/octet-stream
>>>>>>> *.tif = svn:mime-type=image/tiff
>>>>>>> *.tiff = svn:mime-type=image/tiff
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Additional types that could perhaps be added to the list:
>>>>>>> *.asc = text/plain
>>>>>>> *.eml = text/plain
>>>>>>> *.gpg = application/octet-stream
>>>>>>> *.rtf = application/rtf
>>>>>>> *.sig = application/octet-stream
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Craig
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Craig L Russell
>>>>>>>> clr@apache.org
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Craig L Russell
>>>>>> clr@apache.org
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Craig L Russell
>>>> clr@apache.org
>>>> 
>> 
>> Craig L Russell
>> clr@apache.org

Craig L Russell
clr@apache.org


Re: Mime types for new emeritus files for workbench

Posted by Sam Ruby <ru...@intertwingly.net>.
On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 7:17 PM Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > On May 22, 2020, at 4:29 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 22 May 2020 at 20:12, Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Sebb,
> >>
> >> Yes, changing the svn:mime-type to text/pain makes Safari think that it's ok to display.
> >>
> >> So I will change the mime-type for all such .eml files once I've gotten my round tuit.
> >>
> >> Still have the problem with the .rtf that Safari insists on downloading. The only thing I can think of is to edit the file, change to plain text, and save as text/plain mime-type.
> >
> > Why is that a problem?
>
> When I look at a person using whimsy/www/committer and there are form links, it's nice to simply command-click on the file link and bring up the linked file in a browser tab. When done looking at it, I just close the tab. This will be needed to process the emeritus requests once the new buttons are added.
>
> If the form link is a .rtf file, command-click opens a tab and either displays a message in the tab saying "Ok to download file?" or has a blank tab and the downloader indicates that a file has been downloaded. Then, the user has to click on the downloader button, find the downloaded .rtf file, click on it, which brings up the finder, double click on the file to open it in the user's selected ".rtf" opener, and go off to that application to read the file. Whole lotta nothing just to look at an rtf file, and then get back to Safari to continue.

Just a reminder, we have the entire resources of a web server at our disposal.

So, thinking outside of the box, and given that we are talking about
the roster tool here, a sketch.

Add the following to the bottom of whimsy/www/roster/main.rb:

get %r{/documents/(.*)} do |document|
  base = "https://svn.apache.org/repos/private/documents"
  auth = "--username #{env.user} --password #{env.password}"
  content_type 'text/plain;charset=utf8'
  `svn cat #{auth} #{base}/#{document}`
end

With that in place, you should be able to fetch
http://whimsy.local/roster/documents/README.txt

There appears to be a utility to convert RTF to HTML available for Ubuntu:

http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/bionic/man1/unrtf.1.html

It looks to be available via brew too.

Putting the pieces together, you could have a URL that fetches the RTF
from SVN, uses unrtf to convert it to HTML, and then serves the result
with the text/html mime type.

Once that is in place, you could change the committer page to link to
this URL instead.  Either unconditionally, or conditionally based on
the file extension.

- Sam Ruby





> > What should Safari do?
>
> Open the file in a browser tab or window.
>
> > What do other browsers do?
>
> Chrome does the same as Safari but with somewhat different dialog. Same whole lotta clicks just to view the file in a different application.
>
> Firefox does the same as Safari but with somewhat different dialog. Same whole lotta clicks just to view the file in a different application.
>
> Craig
> >
> >> Craig
> >>
> >>> On May 21, 2020, at 4:53 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, 20 May 2020 at 15:48, Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Sebb,
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks for that. I'm trying to get Safari to display the Emeritus file for users with .rtf and .eml suffixes and Safari wants to download them instead of viewing them. For other file types, changing the svn:mime-type on the file has fixed it (but I have no idea how Safari gets the mime-type).
> >>>>
> >>>> As an example, user ids scolebourne and skitching do not display the Emeritus file from the committer display. (These ids are publicly known so no security issue).
> >>>
> >>> If you are referring to the 'Emeritus' link on the Whimsy committer
> >>> page, then this is a URL of the form https://svn.apache.org/repos/...
> >>> This is not served by Whimsy, but by the svn.apache.org server.
> >>> The eml file for skitching is served with the content-type
> >>> message/rfc822; this appears to be taken from the SVN mime-type
> >>> property.
> >>> I have temporarily changed the mime-type to text/plain, and Safari now
> >>> displays the file rather than downloading it.
> >>>
> >>> Whether it makes sense to change the mime-type for all .eml files, I don't know.
> >>> I suspect not, as some people may prefer to use a dedicated handler.
> >>>
> >>> The alternative is to configure Safari to treat .eml files as text/plain.
> >>> Whether that is possible, I have no idea.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Craig
> >>>>
> >>>>> On May 20, 2020, at 7:20 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, 19 May 2020 at 20:54, Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I've seen a number of emeritus files with the wrong svn:mime-type. They are fixed now (I think) but does the new secretary workbench set the mime-type for new documents received?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Whether the mime-type is set depends on the file type.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> There are a number of places where the mime-type could be set. Can someone take a look?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The subversion client uses the following config files:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> /etc/subversion/config
> >>>>> which can be overridden by
> >>>>> ~/.subversion/config
> >>>>>
> >>>>> AFAICT /etc/subversion/config is set up by the Puppet file:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> modules/subversionclient/files/config
> >>>>>
> >>>>> which contains the following mime types
> >>>>> *.doc = svn:mime-type=application/msword
> >>>>> *.gif = svn:mime-type=image/gif
> >>>>> *.gz = svn:mime-type=application/x-gzip
> >>>>> *.ico = svn:mime-type=image/x-icon
> >>>>> *.jpg = svn:mime-type=image/jpeg
> >>>>> *.pdf = svn:mime-type=application/pdf
> >>>>> *.png = svn:mime-type=image/png
> >>>>> *.tar = svn:mime-type=application/octet-stream
> >>>>> *.tgz = svn:mime-type=application/octet-stream
> >>>>> *.tif = svn:mime-type=image/tiff
> >>>>> *.tiff = svn:mime-type=image/tiff
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Additional types that could perhaps be added to the list:
> >>>>> *.asc = text/plain
> >>>>> *.eml = text/plain
> >>>>> *.gpg = application/octet-stream
> >>>>> *.rtf = application/rtf
> >>>>> *.sig = application/octet-stream
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>> Craig
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Craig L Russell
> >>>>>> clr@apache.org
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Craig L Russell
> >>>> clr@apache.org
> >>>>
> >>
> >> Craig L Russell
> >> clr@apache.org
> >>
>
> Craig L Russell
> clr@apache.org
>

Re: Mime types for new emeritus files for workbench

Posted by Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>.
Doesn’t that require the browser have a plugin for RTF files? I remember
Konqueror used to support damn near everything KDE supported as a plugin,
but that’s not a popular browser by any means. Maybe MS Office still has a
plugin? Apple iWork?

On Sat, May 23, 2020 at 18:17 Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> > On May 22, 2020, at 4:29 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Fri, 22 May 2020 at 20:12, Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Sebb,
> >>
> >> Yes, changing the svn:mime-type to text/pain makes Safari think that
> it's ok to display.
> >>
> >> So I will change the mime-type for all such .eml files once I've gotten
> my round tuit.
> >>
> >> Still have the problem with the .rtf that Safari insists on
> downloading. The only thing I can think of is to edit the file, change to
> plain text, and save as text/plain mime-type.
> >
> > Why is that a problem?
>
> When I look at a person using whimsy/www/committer and there are form
> links, it's nice to simply command-click on the file link and bring up the
> linked file in a browser tab. When done looking at it, I just close the
> tab. This will be needed to process the emeritus requests once the new
> buttons are added.
>
> If the form link is a .rtf file, command-click opens a tab and either
> displays a message in the tab saying "Ok to download file?" or has a blank
> tab and the downloader indicates that a file has been downloaded. Then, the
> user has to click on the downloader button, find the downloaded .rtf file,
> click on it, which brings up the finder, double click on the file to open
> it in the user's selected ".rtf" opener, and go off to that application to
> read the file. Whole lotta nothing just to look at an rtf file, and then
> get back to Safari to continue.
>
> > What should Safari do?
>
> Open the file in a browser tab or window.
>
> > What do other browsers do?
>
> Chrome does the same as Safari but with somewhat different dialog. Same
> whole lotta clicks just to view the file in a different application.
>
> Firefox does the same as Safari but with somewhat different dialog. Same
> whole lotta clicks just to view the file in a different application.
>
> Craig
> >
> >> Craig
> >>
> >>> On May 21, 2020, at 4:53 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, 20 May 2020 at 15:48, Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hi Sebb,
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks for that. I'm trying to get Safari to display the Emeritus
> file for users with .rtf and .eml suffixes and Safari wants to download
> them instead of viewing them. For other file types, changing the
> svn:mime-type on the file has fixed it (but I have no idea how Safari gets
> the mime-type).
> >>>>
> >>>> As an example, user ids scolebourne and skitching do not display the
> Emeritus file from the committer display. (These ids are publicly known so
> no security issue).
> >>>
> >>> If you are referring to the 'Emeritus' link on the Whimsy committer
> >>> page, then this is a URL of the form https://svn.apache.org/repos/...
> >>> This is not served by Whimsy, but by the svn.apache.org server.
> >>> The eml file for skitching is served with the content-type
> >>> message/rfc822; this appears to be taken from the SVN mime-type
> >>> property.
> >>> I have temporarily changed the mime-type to text/plain, and Safari now
> >>> displays the file rather than downloading it.
> >>>
> >>> Whether it makes sense to change the mime-type for all .eml files, I
> don't know.
> >>> I suspect not, as some people may prefer to use a dedicated handler.
> >>>
> >>> The alternative is to configure Safari to treat .eml files as
> text/plain.
> >>> Whether that is possible, I have no idea.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Craig
> >>>>
> >>>>> On May 20, 2020, at 7:20 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Tue, 19 May 2020 at 20:54, Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I've seen a number of emeritus files with the wrong svn:mime-type.
> They are fixed now (I think) but does the new secretary workbench set the
> mime-type for new documents received?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Whether the mime-type is set depends on the file type.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> There are a number of places where the mime-type could be set. Can
> someone take a look?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The subversion client uses the following config files:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> /etc/subversion/config
> >>>>> which can be overridden by
> >>>>> ~/.subversion/config
> >>>>>
> >>>>> AFAICT /etc/subversion/config is set up by the Puppet file:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> modules/subversionclient/files/config
> >>>>>
> >>>>> which contains the following mime types
> >>>>> *.doc = svn:mime-type=application/msword
> >>>>> *.gif = svn:mime-type=image/gif
> >>>>> *.gz = svn:mime-type=application/x-gzip
> >>>>> *.ico = svn:mime-type=image/x-icon
> >>>>> *.jpg = svn:mime-type=image/jpeg
> >>>>> *.pdf = svn:mime-type=application/pdf
> >>>>> *.png = svn:mime-type=image/png
> >>>>> *.tar = svn:mime-type=application/octet-stream
> >>>>> *.tgz = svn:mime-type=application/octet-stream
> >>>>> *.tif = svn:mime-type=image/tiff
> >>>>> *.tiff = svn:mime-type=image/tiff
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Additional types that could perhaps be added to the list:
> >>>>> *.asc = text/plain
> >>>>> *.eml = text/plain
> >>>>> *.gpg = application/octet-stream
> >>>>> *.rtf = application/rtf
> >>>>> *.sig = application/octet-stream
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>> Craig
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Craig L Russell
> >>>>>> clr@apache.org
> >>>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Craig L Russell
> >>>> clr@apache.org
> >>>>
> >>
> >> Craig L Russell
> >> clr@apache.org
> >>
>
> Craig L Russell
> clr@apache.org
>
> --
Matt Sicker <bo...@gmail.com>

Re: Mime types for new emeritus files for workbench

Posted by Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com>.

> On May 22, 2020, at 4:29 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Fri, 22 May 2020 at 20:12, Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Sebb,
>> 
>> Yes, changing the svn:mime-type to text/pain makes Safari think that it's ok to display.
>> 
>> So I will change the mime-type for all such .eml files once I've gotten my round tuit.
>> 
>> Still have the problem with the .rtf that Safari insists on downloading. The only thing I can think of is to edit the file, change to plain text, and save as text/plain mime-type.
> 
> Why is that a problem?

When I look at a person using whimsy/www/committer and there are form links, it's nice to simply command-click on the file link and bring up the linked file in a browser tab. When done looking at it, I just close the tab. This will be needed to process the emeritus requests once the new buttons are added.

If the form link is a .rtf file, command-click opens a tab and either displays a message in the tab saying "Ok to download file?" or has a blank tab and the downloader indicates that a file has been downloaded. Then, the user has to click on the downloader button, find the downloaded .rtf file, click on it, which brings up the finder, double click on the file to open it in the user's selected ".rtf" opener, and go off to that application to read the file. Whole lotta nothing just to look at an rtf file, and then get back to Safari to continue.

> What should Safari do?

Open the file in a browser tab or window.

> What do other browsers do?

Chrome does the same as Safari but with somewhat different dialog. Same whole lotta clicks just to view the file in a different application.

Firefox does the same as Safari but with somewhat different dialog. Same whole lotta clicks just to view the file in a different application.

Craig
> 
>> Craig
>> 
>>> On May 21, 2020, at 4:53 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Wed, 20 May 2020 at 15:48, Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Sebb,
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for that. I'm trying to get Safari to display the Emeritus file for users with .rtf and .eml suffixes and Safari wants to download them instead of viewing them. For other file types, changing the svn:mime-type on the file has fixed it (but I have no idea how Safari gets the mime-type).
>>>> 
>>>> As an example, user ids scolebourne and skitching do not display the Emeritus file from the committer display. (These ids are publicly known so no security issue).
>>> 
>>> If you are referring to the 'Emeritus' link on the Whimsy committer
>>> page, then this is a URL of the form https://svn.apache.org/repos/...
>>> This is not served by Whimsy, but by the svn.apache.org server.
>>> The eml file for skitching is served with the content-type
>>> message/rfc822; this appears to be taken from the SVN mime-type
>>> property.
>>> I have temporarily changed the mime-type to text/plain, and Safari now
>>> displays the file rather than downloading it.
>>> 
>>> Whether it makes sense to change the mime-type for all .eml files, I don't know.
>>> I suspect not, as some people may prefer to use a dedicated handler.
>>> 
>>> The alternative is to configure Safari to treat .eml files as text/plain.
>>> Whether that is possible, I have no idea.
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Craig
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 20, 2020, at 7:20 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Tue, 19 May 2020 at 20:54, Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I've seen a number of emeritus files with the wrong svn:mime-type. They are fixed now (I think) but does the new secretary workbench set the mime-type for new documents received?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Whether the mime-type is set depends on the file type.
>>>>> 
>>>>>> There are a number of places where the mime-type could be set. Can someone take a look?
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> The subversion client uses the following config files:
>>>>> 
>>>>> /etc/subversion/config
>>>>> which can be overridden by
>>>>> ~/.subversion/config
>>>>> 
>>>>> AFAICT /etc/subversion/config is set up by the Puppet file:
>>>>> 
>>>>> modules/subversionclient/files/config
>>>>> 
>>>>> which contains the following mime types
>>>>> *.doc = svn:mime-type=application/msword
>>>>> *.gif = svn:mime-type=image/gif
>>>>> *.gz = svn:mime-type=application/x-gzip
>>>>> *.ico = svn:mime-type=image/x-icon
>>>>> *.jpg = svn:mime-type=image/jpeg
>>>>> *.pdf = svn:mime-type=application/pdf
>>>>> *.png = svn:mime-type=image/png
>>>>> *.tar = svn:mime-type=application/octet-stream
>>>>> *.tgz = svn:mime-type=application/octet-stream
>>>>> *.tif = svn:mime-type=image/tiff
>>>>> *.tiff = svn:mime-type=image/tiff
>>>>> 
>>>>> Additional types that could perhaps be added to the list:
>>>>> *.asc = text/plain
>>>>> *.eml = text/plain
>>>>> *.gpg = application/octet-stream
>>>>> *.rtf = application/rtf
>>>>> *.sig = application/octet-stream
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Craig
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Craig L Russell
>>>>>> clr@apache.org
>>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Craig L Russell
>>>> clr@apache.org
>>>> 
>> 
>> Craig L Russell
>> clr@apache.org
>> 

Craig L Russell
clr@apache.org


Re: Mime types for new emeritus files for workbench

Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On Fri, 22 May 2020 at 20:12, Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Sebb,
>
> Yes, changing the svn:mime-type to text/pain makes Safari think that it's ok to display.
>
> So I will change the mime-type for all such .eml files once I've gotten my round tuit.
>
> Still have the problem with the .rtf that Safari insists on downloading. The only thing I can think of is to edit the file, change to plain text, and save as text/plain mime-type.

Why is that a problem?
What should Safari do?
What do other browsers do?

> Craig
>
> > On May 21, 2020, at 4:53 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Wed, 20 May 2020 at 15:48, Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Sebb,
> >>
> >> Thanks for that. I'm trying to get Safari to display the Emeritus file for users with .rtf and .eml suffixes and Safari wants to download them instead of viewing them. For other file types, changing the svn:mime-type on the file has fixed it (but I have no idea how Safari gets the mime-type).
> >>
> >> As an example, user ids scolebourne and skitching do not display the Emeritus file from the committer display. (These ids are publicly known so no security issue).
> >
> > If you are referring to the 'Emeritus' link on the Whimsy committer
> > page, then this is a URL of the form https://svn.apache.org/repos/...
> > This is not served by Whimsy, but by the svn.apache.org server.
> > The eml file for skitching is served with the content-type
> > message/rfc822; this appears to be taken from the SVN mime-type
> > property.
> > I have temporarily changed the mime-type to text/plain, and Safari now
> > displays the file rather than downloading it.
> >
> > Whether it makes sense to change the mime-type for all .eml files, I don't know.
> > I suspect not, as some people may prefer to use a dedicated handler.
> >
> > The alternative is to configure Safari to treat .eml files as text/plain.
> > Whether that is possible, I have no idea.
> >
> >
> >> Thanks,
> >> Craig
> >>
> >>> On May 20, 2020, at 7:20 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On Tue, 19 May 2020 at 20:54, Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I've seen a number of emeritus files with the wrong svn:mime-type. They are fixed now (I think) but does the new secretary workbench set the mime-type for new documents received?
> >>>
> >>> Whether the mime-type is set depends on the file type.
> >>>
> >>>> There are a number of places where the mime-type could be set. Can someone take a look?
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> The subversion client uses the following config files:
> >>>
> >>> /etc/subversion/config
> >>> which can be overridden by
> >>> ~/.subversion/config
> >>>
> >>> AFAICT /etc/subversion/config is set up by the Puppet file:
> >>>
> >>> modules/subversionclient/files/config
> >>>
> >>> which contains the following mime types
> >>> *.doc = svn:mime-type=application/msword
> >>> *.gif = svn:mime-type=image/gif
> >>> *.gz = svn:mime-type=application/x-gzip
> >>> *.ico = svn:mime-type=image/x-icon
> >>> *.jpg = svn:mime-type=image/jpeg
> >>> *.pdf = svn:mime-type=application/pdf
> >>> *.png = svn:mime-type=image/png
> >>> *.tar = svn:mime-type=application/octet-stream
> >>> *.tgz = svn:mime-type=application/octet-stream
> >>> *.tif = svn:mime-type=image/tiff
> >>> *.tiff = svn:mime-type=image/tiff
> >>>
> >>> Additional types that could perhaps be added to the list:
> >>> *.asc = text/plain
> >>> *.eml = text/plain
> >>> *.gpg = application/octet-stream
> >>> *.rtf = application/rtf
> >>> *.sig = application/octet-stream
> >>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Craig
> >>>>
> >>>> Craig L Russell
> >>>> clr@apache.org
> >>>>
> >>
> >> Craig L Russell
> >> clr@apache.org
> >>
>
> Craig L Russell
> clr@apache.org
>

Re: Mime types for new emeritus files for workbench

Posted by Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com>.
Hi Sebb,

Yes, changing the svn:mime-type to text/pain makes Safari think that it's ok to display.

So I will change the mime-type for all such .eml files once I've gotten my round tuit.

Still have the problem with the .rtf that Safari insists on downloading. The only thing I can think of is to edit the file, change to plain text, and save as text/plain mime-type. 

Craig

> On May 21, 2020, at 4:53 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 20 May 2020 at 15:48, Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Sebb,
>> 
>> Thanks for that. I'm trying to get Safari to display the Emeritus file for users with .rtf and .eml suffixes and Safari wants to download them instead of viewing them. For other file types, changing the svn:mime-type on the file has fixed it (but I have no idea how Safari gets the mime-type).
>> 
>> As an example, user ids scolebourne and skitching do not display the Emeritus file from the committer display. (These ids are publicly known so no security issue).
> 
> If you are referring to the 'Emeritus' link on the Whimsy committer
> page, then this is a URL of the form https://svn.apache.org/repos/...
> This is not served by Whimsy, but by the svn.apache.org server.
> The eml file for skitching is served with the content-type
> message/rfc822; this appears to be taken from the SVN mime-type
> property.
> I have temporarily changed the mime-type to text/plain, and Safari now
> displays the file rather than downloading it.
> 
> Whether it makes sense to change the mime-type for all .eml files, I don't know.
> I suspect not, as some people may prefer to use a dedicated handler.
> 
> The alternative is to configure Safari to treat .eml files as text/plain.
> Whether that is possible, I have no idea.
> 
> 
>> Thanks,
>> Craig
>> 
>>> On May 20, 2020, at 7:20 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Tue, 19 May 2020 at 20:54, Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I've seen a number of emeritus files with the wrong svn:mime-type. They are fixed now (I think) but does the new secretary workbench set the mime-type for new documents received?
>>> 
>>> Whether the mime-type is set depends on the file type.
>>> 
>>>> There are a number of places where the mime-type could be set. Can someone take a look?
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> The subversion client uses the following config files:
>>> 
>>> /etc/subversion/config
>>> which can be overridden by
>>> ~/.subversion/config
>>> 
>>> AFAICT /etc/subversion/config is set up by the Puppet file:
>>> 
>>> modules/subversionclient/files/config
>>> 
>>> which contains the following mime types
>>> *.doc = svn:mime-type=application/msword
>>> *.gif = svn:mime-type=image/gif
>>> *.gz = svn:mime-type=application/x-gzip
>>> *.ico = svn:mime-type=image/x-icon
>>> *.jpg = svn:mime-type=image/jpeg
>>> *.pdf = svn:mime-type=application/pdf
>>> *.png = svn:mime-type=image/png
>>> *.tar = svn:mime-type=application/octet-stream
>>> *.tgz = svn:mime-type=application/octet-stream
>>> *.tif = svn:mime-type=image/tiff
>>> *.tiff = svn:mime-type=image/tiff
>>> 
>>> Additional types that could perhaps be added to the list:
>>> *.asc = text/plain
>>> *.eml = text/plain
>>> *.gpg = application/octet-stream
>>> *.rtf = application/rtf
>>> *.sig = application/octet-stream
>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Craig
>>>> 
>>>> Craig L Russell
>>>> clr@apache.org
>>>> 
>> 
>> Craig L Russell
>> clr@apache.org
>> 

Craig L Russell
clr@apache.org


Re: Mime types for new emeritus files for workbench

Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, 20 May 2020 at 15:48, Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Sebb,
>
> Thanks for that. I'm trying to get Safari to display the Emeritus file for users with .rtf and .eml suffixes and Safari wants to download them instead of viewing them. For other file types, changing the svn:mime-type on the file has fixed it (but I have no idea how Safari gets the mime-type).
>
> As an example, user ids scolebourne and skitching do not display the Emeritus file from the committer display. (These ids are publicly known so no security issue).

If you are referring to the 'Emeritus' link on the Whimsy committer
page, then this is a URL of the form https://svn.apache.org/repos/...
This is not served by Whimsy, but by the svn.apache.org server.
The eml file for skitching is served with the content-type
message/rfc822; this appears to be taken from the SVN mime-type
property.
I have temporarily changed the mime-type to text/plain, and Safari now
displays the file rather than downloading it.

Whether it makes sense to change the mime-type for all .eml files, I don't know.
I suspect not, as some people may prefer to use a dedicated handler.

The alternative is to configure Safari to treat .eml files as text/plain.
Whether that is possible, I have no idea.


> Thanks,
> Craig
>
> > On May 20, 2020, at 7:20 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On Tue, 19 May 2020 at 20:54, Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> I've seen a number of emeritus files with the wrong svn:mime-type. They are fixed now (I think) but does the new secretary workbench set the mime-type for new documents received?
> >
> > Whether the mime-type is set depends on the file type.
> >
> >> There are a number of places where the mime-type could be set. Can someone take a look?
> >>
> >
> > The subversion client uses the following config files:
> >
> > /etc/subversion/config
> > which can be overridden by
> > ~/.subversion/config
> >
> > AFAICT /etc/subversion/config is set up by the Puppet file:
> >
> > modules/subversionclient/files/config
> >
> > which contains the following mime types
> > *.doc = svn:mime-type=application/msword
> > *.gif = svn:mime-type=image/gif
> > *.gz = svn:mime-type=application/x-gzip
> > *.ico = svn:mime-type=image/x-icon
> > *.jpg = svn:mime-type=image/jpeg
> > *.pdf = svn:mime-type=application/pdf
> > *.png = svn:mime-type=image/png
> > *.tar = svn:mime-type=application/octet-stream
> > *.tgz = svn:mime-type=application/octet-stream
> > *.tif = svn:mime-type=image/tiff
> > *.tiff = svn:mime-type=image/tiff
> >
> > Additional types that could perhaps be added to the list:
> > *.asc = text/plain
> > *.eml = text/plain
> > *.gpg = application/octet-stream
> > *.rtf = application/rtf
> > *.sig = application/octet-stream
> >
> >> Thanks,
> >> Craig
> >>
> >> Craig L Russell
> >> clr@apache.org
> >>
>
> Craig L Russell
> clr@apache.org
>

Re: Mime types for new emeritus files for workbench

Posted by Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com>.
Hi Sebb,

Thanks for that. I'm trying to get Safari to display the Emeritus file for users with .rtf and .eml suffixes and Safari wants to download them instead of viewing them. For other file types, changing the svn:mime-type on the file has fixed it (but I have no idea how Safari gets the mime-type).

As an example, user ids scolebourne and skitching do not display the Emeritus file from the committer display. (These ids are publicly known so no security issue).

Thanks,
Craig

> On May 20, 2020, at 7:20 AM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> On Tue, 19 May 2020 at 20:54, Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> I've seen a number of emeritus files with the wrong svn:mime-type. They are fixed now (I think) but does the new secretary workbench set the mime-type for new documents received?
> 
> Whether the mime-type is set depends on the file type.
> 
>> There are a number of places where the mime-type could be set. Can someone take a look?
>> 
> 
> The subversion client uses the following config files:
> 
> /etc/subversion/config
> which can be overridden by
> ~/.subversion/config
> 
> AFAICT /etc/subversion/config is set up by the Puppet file:
> 
> modules/subversionclient/files/config
> 
> which contains the following mime types
> *.doc = svn:mime-type=application/msword
> *.gif = svn:mime-type=image/gif
> *.gz = svn:mime-type=application/x-gzip
> *.ico = svn:mime-type=image/x-icon
> *.jpg = svn:mime-type=image/jpeg
> *.pdf = svn:mime-type=application/pdf
> *.png = svn:mime-type=image/png
> *.tar = svn:mime-type=application/octet-stream
> *.tgz = svn:mime-type=application/octet-stream
> *.tif = svn:mime-type=image/tiff
> *.tiff = svn:mime-type=image/tiff
> 
> Additional types that could perhaps be added to the list:
> *.asc = text/plain
> *.eml = text/plain
> *.gpg = application/octet-stream
> *.rtf = application/rtf
> *.sig = application/octet-stream
> 
>> Thanks,
>> Craig
>> 
>> Craig L Russell
>> clr@apache.org
>> 

Craig L Russell
clr@apache.org


Re: Mime types for new emeritus files for workbench

Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, 19 May 2020 at 20:54, Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I've seen a number of emeritus files with the wrong svn:mime-type. They are fixed now (I think) but does the new secretary workbench set the mime-type for new documents received?

Whether the mime-type is set depends on the file type.

> There are a number of places where the mime-type could be set. Can someone take a look?
>

The subversion client uses the following config files:

/etc/subversion/config
which can be overridden by
~/.subversion/config

AFAICT /etc/subversion/config is set up by the Puppet file:

modules/subversionclient/files/config

which contains the following mime types
*.doc = svn:mime-type=application/msword
*.gif = svn:mime-type=image/gif
*.gz = svn:mime-type=application/x-gzip
*.ico = svn:mime-type=image/x-icon
*.jpg = svn:mime-type=image/jpeg
*.pdf = svn:mime-type=application/pdf
*.png = svn:mime-type=image/png
*.tar = svn:mime-type=application/octet-stream
*.tgz = svn:mime-type=application/octet-stream
*.tif = svn:mime-type=image/tiff
*.tiff = svn:mime-type=image/tiff

Additional types that could perhaps be added to the list:
*.asc = text/plain
*.eml = text/plain
*.gpg = application/octet-stream
*.rtf = application/rtf
*.sig = application/octet-stream

> Thanks,
> Craig
>
> Craig L Russell
> clr@apache.org
>

Re: Mime types for new emeritus files for workbench

Posted by Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com>.
While I have your (limited) attention, files that don't open automatically in my browser from the roster app: .eml types.

Does anyone know if we can simply set the mime-type to text/plain for .eml? There is nothing that I can see that is a standard mime-type for these files, and they seem to open just fine as text.

Thanks,
Craig


> On May 19, 2020, at 12:54 PM, Craig Russell <ap...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> I've seen a number of emeritus files with the wrong svn:mime-type. They are fixed now (I think) but does the new secretary workbench set the mime-type for new documents received?
> 
> There are a number of places where the mime-type could be set. Can someone take a look?
> 
> Thanks,
> Craig
> 
> Craig L Russell
> clr@apache.org
> 

Craig L Russell
clr@apache.org