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Posted to dev@openoffice.apache.org by Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> on 2013/01/01 17:15:27 UTC
Re: [PROPOSAL] New Apache OpenOffice 4 logo proposals...
Hi Michael,
I like the logo - a lot.
I have a problem with the video that is significant. You are using the same music that Microsoft is using for its Surface Advertising on TV. Also, at the end you are using a non-standard Apache Software Foundation logo and feather placement.
Although we want people and institutions to use Apache OpenOffice and not Microsoft Office, we cannot be subversive about it.
Please keep up with your work and contributions, just be careful that you aren't appropriating others images and music.
For fun here is a more original version of the music.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYyzBbWPV5w
Best Regards and Happy New Year,
Dave
On Dec 26, 2012, at 8:07 PM, Michael Acevedo wrote:
> Greetings to all in the mailing list and those in this AOO Logo Proposal
> subject,
>
> In this email, I would like to mention that I have added two new logo
> proposals to the Apache OpenOffice Logo exploration wiki article. Now let
> me explain what this new logo it's all about.
>
> The new logo design does away with the orb and changes it for a gull ring
> that rests under a blue background which itself rests on circles which are
> inspired on the Adobe Flex logo multicolor scheme. The new gull ring while
> being new, retains the familiar circular shape of the current OpenOffice
> logo, but at the same time is a new take that pays respect to the orb. All
> of these elements are wrapped in a modern black gradient icon than makes
> the logo stand out. Furthermore, the new logo actually changes the look of
> the word OpenOffice into a more modern non-capitalized "openoffice" word
> design (also an inspiration from the Adobe Flex project logo). The latter
> serves the function of highlighting Apache as the owner of the project
> (whose name is in capital letters), yet the non-capitalized "openoffice"
> names takes presence by being written in a larger size font. Overall, the
> new logo design is simple, clean, and modern.
>
> Now that I have given a sense of the new logo, I would like to show you a
> reveal video:
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AC-tOuhTm9Y
>
> But there is one last detail, which actually is a testament to the power of
> OpenOffice. The detail is that the logo that you see at the end of the
> video was 99% made in Apache OpenOffice Draw.
>
> Hope you liked the logo and the reveal video.
>
> Happy Holidays!
>
> You can see the formal proposal in the Cwiki at Apache:
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.x+-+Logo+Explorations
>
>
> On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 11:20 PM, Michael Acevedo <ve...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Greetings Kevin, I would not mind posting the logos to that AOO UX wiki.
>> Thing is I don't know where it is or whether it is on the cwiki or mwiki
>> (if it is on the latter, I need to request an account).
>>
>> Let me know.
>>
>>
>> On Saturday, December 22, 2012, Kevin Grignon wrote:
>>
>>> Michael,
>>>
>>> Great work. Design is very iterative. Keep pushing!
>>>
>>> Using the design explorations is a great way to stimulate a conversation
>>> which can help us better understand the requirements. Perhaps we could
>>> harvest the criteria for success in the thread and capture in the wiki
>>>
>>> Then we can make the design review process less subjective by having
>>> people review design explorations relative to stated goals.
>>>
>>> Also, the mailing list is tough place to review designs, can you post the
>>> design explorations to the AOO UX wiki?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> Kevin
>>>
>>>
>>> On Dec 23, 2012, at 10:56 AM, Michael Acevedo <ve...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I think I've come up with something that is simplistic on the eye but
>>>> beautiful an lively.
>>>>
>>>> Still working on it but stay tuned.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 10:43 PM, Michael Acevedo <ve...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> RGB,
>>>>>
>>>>> I see the ring as something different. The blue to me represents the
>>> open
>>>>> blue sky, and the ring around it as a frame to an opening of an open
>>> world.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 8:16 AM, RGB ES <rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> 2012/12/22 janI <ja...@apache.org>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am no designer, but I have tried to make a suggestion to better
>>>>>> explain
>>>>>>> what I mean.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The current proposals all have squares / circles etc. and apart from
>>> the
>>>>>>> original similarity with windows8 that has a special signal value.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A surface (square/circle etc) especially with a border, signal:
>>>>>>> - limitation or positive a product that fullfills a single purpose
>>>>>>> - closeness or positive a product the specialize in one function
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> AOO is in my mind much more, we are open at levels where normal
>>> products
>>>>>>> can only dream to go:
>>>>>>> - AOO is used in nearly every corner of the earth.
>>>>>>> - AOO is open for translation to no matter how small a language group
>>>>>>> - AOO is open for developers who want to hack their own specialized
>>>>>>> versions
>>>>>>> - AOO is open for repackaging supplying the core of a wider extented
>>>>>>> product.
>>>>>>> I could go on.....
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think it is important that our logo signals this freedom and
>>> openess
>>>>>>> after all we are OPEN office.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> +1. The ring around the orb give the idea of boundaries, limits, and
>>> we
>>>>>> are
>>>>>> trying to go beyond every limit ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I know my design is not professional, it is NOT meant to be so please
>>>>>> dont
>>>>>>> judge it on that. It is simply a "thought out of the box", and
>>>>>> hopefully it
>>>>>>> can trigger some ideas.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You can see my "proposal" here:
>>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~jani/aoo.png
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I like the idea. No sure if it fits well on a page header,
>>>>>> but definitely is a good idea for announcements, t-shirts and a lot of
>>>>>> other situations where a big logo is needed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> Ricardo
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Have a nice christmas, whereever you are in the world.
>>>>>>> Jan I.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 21 December 2012 20:56, Michael Acevedo <ve...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks for the links with logos Armin, I will examine them
>>> shortly...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Have a good afternoon...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Armin Le Grand <
>>>>>> Armin.Le.Grand@me.com
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Michael,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> this (
>>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/**asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/**
>>>>>>>>> content/images/AOO_logos/<
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>> <https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Best,
>> Michael
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Best,
> Michael
Re: [PROPOSAL] New Apache OpenOffice 4 logo proposals...
Posted by Kay Schenk <ka...@gmail.com>.
On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 8:15 AM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Hi Michael,
>
> I like the logo - a lot.
>
> I have a problem with the video that is significant. You are using the
> same music that Microsoft is using for its Surface Advertising on TV. Also,
> at the end you are using a non-standard Apache Software Foundation logo and
> feather placement.
>
> Although we want people and institutions to use Apache OpenOffice and not
> Microsoft Office, we cannot be subversive about it.
>
> Please keep up with your work and contributions, just be careful that you
> aren't appropriating others images and music.
>
> For fun here is a more original version of the music.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYyzBbWPV5w
>
> Best Regards and Happy New Year,
> Dave
>
Dave, thanks for the day brightener! :)
>
> On Dec 26, 2012, at 8:07 PM, Michael Acevedo wrote:
>
> > Greetings to all in the mailing list and those in this AOO Logo Proposal
> > subject,
> >
> > In this email, I would like to mention that I have added two new logo
> > proposals to the Apache OpenOffice Logo exploration wiki article. Now let
> > me explain what this new logo it's all about.
> >
> > The new logo design does away with the orb and changes it for a gull ring
> > that rests under a blue background which itself rests on circles which
> are
> > inspired on the Adobe Flex logo multicolor scheme. The new gull ring
> while
> > being new, retains the familiar circular shape of the current OpenOffice
> > logo, but at the same time is a new take that pays respect to the orb.
> All
> > of these elements are wrapped in a modern black gradient icon than makes
> > the logo stand out. Furthermore, the new logo actually changes the look
> of
> > the word OpenOffice into a more modern non-capitalized "openoffice" word
> > design (also an inspiration from the Adobe Flex project logo). The latter
> > serves the function of highlighting Apache as the owner of the project
> > (whose name is in capital letters), yet the non-capitalized "openoffice"
> > names takes presence by being written in a larger size font. Overall, the
> > new logo design is simple, clean, and modern.
> >
> > Now that I have given a sense of the new logo, I would like to show you a
> > reveal video:
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AC-tOuhTm9Y
> >
> > But there is one last detail, which actually is a testament to the power
> of
> > OpenOffice. The detail is that the logo that you see at the end of the
> > video was 99% made in Apache OpenOffice Draw.
> >
> > Hope you liked the logo and the reveal video.
> >
> > Happy Holidays!
> >
> > You can see the formal proposal in the Cwiki at Apache:
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.x+-+Logo+Explorations
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 11:20 PM, Michael Acevedo <ve...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Greetings Kevin, I would not mind posting the logos to that AOO UX wiki.
> >> Thing is I don't know where it is or whether it is on the cwiki or mwiki
> >> (if it is on the latter, I need to request an account).
> >>
> >> Let me know.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Saturday, December 22, 2012, Kevin Grignon wrote:
> >>
> >>> Michael,
> >>>
> >>> Great work. Design is very iterative. Keep pushing!
> >>>
> >>> Using the design explorations is a great way to stimulate a
> conversation
> >>> which can help us better understand the requirements. Perhaps we could
> >>> harvest the criteria for success in the thread and capture in the wiki
> >>>
> >>> Then we can make the design review process less subjective by having
> >>> people review design explorations relative to stated goals.
> >>>
> >>> Also, the mailing list is tough place to review designs, can you post
> the
> >>> design explorations to the AOO UX wiki?
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Kevin
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Dec 23, 2012, at 10:56 AM, Michael Acevedo <ve...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I think I've come up with something that is simplistic on the eye but
> >>>> beautiful an lively.
> >>>>
> >>>> Still working on it but stay tuned.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 10:43 PM, Michael Acevedo <ve...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> RGB,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I see the ring as something different. The blue to me represents the
> >>> open
> >>>>> blue sky, and the ring around it as a frame to an opening of an open
> >>> world.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 8:16 AM, RGB ES <rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> 2012/12/22 janI <ja...@apache.org>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I am no designer, but I have tried to make a suggestion to better
> >>>>>> explain
> >>>>>>> what I mean.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The current proposals all have squares / circles etc. and apart
> from
> >>> the
> >>>>>>> original similarity with windows8 that has a special signal value.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> A surface (square/circle etc) especially with a border, signal:
> >>>>>>> - limitation or positive a product that fullfills a single purpose
> >>>>>>> - closeness or positive a product the specialize in one function
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> AOO is in my mind much more, we are open at levels where normal
> >>> products
> >>>>>>> can only dream to go:
> >>>>>>> - AOO is used in nearly every corner of the earth.
> >>>>>>> - AOO is open for translation to no matter how small a language
> group
> >>>>>>> - AOO is open for developers who want to hack their own specialized
> >>>>>>> versions
> >>>>>>> - AOO is open for repackaging supplying the core of a wider
> extented
> >>>>>>> product.
> >>>>>>> I could go on.....
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I think it is important that our logo signals this freedom and
> >>> openess
> >>>>>>> after all we are OPEN office.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> +1. The ring around the orb give the idea of boundaries, limits, and
> >>> we
> >>>>>> are
> >>>>>> trying to go beyond every limit ;)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I know my design is not professional, it is NOT meant to be so
> please
> >>>>>> dont
> >>>>>>> judge it on that. It is simply a "thought out of the box", and
> >>>>>> hopefully it
> >>>>>>> can trigger some ideas.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> You can see my "proposal" here:
> >>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~jani/aoo.png
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I like the idea. No sure if it fits well on a page header,
> >>>>>> but definitely is a good idea for announcements, t-shirts and a lot
> of
> >>>>>> other situations where a big logo is needed.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>> Ricardo
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Have a nice christmas, whereever you are in the world.
> >>>>>>> Jan I.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 21 December 2012 20:56, Michael Acevedo <ve...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks for the links with logos Armin, I will examine them
> >>> shortly...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Have a good afternoon...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Armin Le Grand <
> >>>>>> Armin.Le.Grand@me.com
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hi Michael,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> this (
> >>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/**asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/**
> >>>>>>>>> content/images/AOO_logos/<
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>> <
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best,
> >> Michael
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best,
> > Michael
>
>
--
----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
MzK
"No act of kindness, no matter how small, is ever wasted."
--
Aesop
Re: [PROPOSAL] New Apache OpenOffice 4 logo proposals...
Posted by Michael Acevedo <ve...@gmail.com>.
Dave,
The video as far as I know will never see the light of day beyond these
mailing lists. Number two, the video was done for the purpose of showing
the proposal logo so I was not being strictly official while making it.
On Tue, Jan 1, 2013 at 11:15 AM, Dave Fisher <da...@comcast.net> wrote:
> Hi Michael,
>
> I like the logo - a lot.
>
> I have a problem with the video that is significant. You are using the
> same music that Microsoft is using for its Surface Advertising on TV. Also,
> at the end you are using a non-standard Apache Software Foundation logo and
> feather placement.
>
> Although we want people and institutions to use Apache OpenOffice and not
> Microsoft Office, we cannot be subversive about it.
>
> Please keep up with your work and contributions, just be careful that you
> aren't appropriating others images and music.
>
> For fun here is a more original version of the music.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RYyzBbWPV5w
>
> Best Regards and Happy New Year,
> Dave
>
> On Dec 26, 2012, at 8:07 PM, Michael Acevedo wrote:
>
> > Greetings to all in the mailing list and those in this AOO Logo Proposal
> > subject,
> >
> > In this email, I would like to mention that I have added two new logo
> > proposals to the Apache OpenOffice Logo exploration wiki article. Now let
> > me explain what this new logo it's all about.
> >
> > The new logo design does away with the orb and changes it for a gull ring
> > that rests under a blue background which itself rests on circles which
> are
> > inspired on the Adobe Flex logo multicolor scheme. The new gull ring
> while
> > being new, retains the familiar circular shape of the current OpenOffice
> > logo, but at the same time is a new take that pays respect to the orb.
> All
> > of these elements are wrapped in a modern black gradient icon than makes
> > the logo stand out. Furthermore, the new logo actually changes the look
> of
> > the word OpenOffice into a more modern non-capitalized "openoffice" word
> > design (also an inspiration from the Adobe Flex project logo). The latter
> > serves the function of highlighting Apache as the owner of the project
> > (whose name is in capital letters), yet the non-capitalized "openoffice"
> > names takes presence by being written in a larger size font. Overall, the
> > new logo design is simple, clean, and modern.
> >
> > Now that I have given a sense of the new logo, I would like to show you a
> > reveal video:
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AC-tOuhTm9Y
> >
> > But there is one last detail, which actually is a testament to the power
> of
> > OpenOffice. The detail is that the logo that you see at the end of the
> > video was 99% made in Apache OpenOffice Draw.
> >
> > Hope you liked the logo and the reveal video.
> >
> > Happy Holidays!
> >
> > You can see the formal proposal in the Cwiki at Apache:
> >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.x+-+Logo+Explorations
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 11:20 PM, Michael Acevedo <ve...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Greetings Kevin, I would not mind posting the logos to that AOO UX wiki.
> >> Thing is I don't know where it is or whether it is on the cwiki or mwiki
> >> (if it is on the latter, I need to request an account).
> >>
> >> Let me know.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Saturday, December 22, 2012, Kevin Grignon wrote:
> >>
> >>> Michael,
> >>>
> >>> Great work. Design is very iterative. Keep pushing!
> >>>
> >>> Using the design explorations is a great way to stimulate a
> conversation
> >>> which can help us better understand the requirements. Perhaps we could
> >>> harvest the criteria for success in the thread and capture in the wiki
> >>>
> >>> Then we can make the design review process less subjective by having
> >>> people review design explorations relative to stated goals.
> >>>
> >>> Also, the mailing list is tough place to review designs, can you post
> the
> >>> design explorations to the AOO UX wiki?
> >>>
> >>> Regards,
> >>> Kevin
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Dec 23, 2012, at 10:56 AM, Michael Acevedo <ve...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I think I've come up with something that is simplistic on the eye but
> >>>> beautiful an lively.
> >>>>
> >>>> Still working on it but stay tuned.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 10:43 PM, Michael Acevedo <ve...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> RGB,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I see the ring as something different. The blue to me represents the
> >>> open
> >>>>> blue sky, and the ring around it as a frame to an opening of an open
> >>> world.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 8:16 AM, RGB ES <rg...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> 2012/12/22 janI <ja...@apache.org>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I am no designer, but I have tried to make a suggestion to better
> >>>>>> explain
> >>>>>>> what I mean.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The current proposals all have squares / circles etc. and apart
> from
> >>> the
> >>>>>>> original similarity with windows8 that has a special signal value.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> A surface (square/circle etc) especially with a border, signal:
> >>>>>>> - limitation or positive a product that fullfills a single purpose
> >>>>>>> - closeness or positive a product the specialize in one function
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> AOO is in my mind much more, we are open at levels where normal
> >>> products
> >>>>>>> can only dream to go:
> >>>>>>> - AOO is used in nearly every corner of the earth.
> >>>>>>> - AOO is open for translation to no matter how small a language
> group
> >>>>>>> - AOO is open for developers who want to hack their own specialized
> >>>>>>> versions
> >>>>>>> - AOO is open for repackaging supplying the core of a wider
> extented
> >>>>>>> product.
> >>>>>>> I could go on.....
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I think it is important that our logo signals this freedom and
> >>> openess
> >>>>>>> after all we are OPEN office.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> +1. The ring around the orb give the idea of boundaries, limits, and
> >>> we
> >>>>>> are
> >>>>>> trying to go beyond every limit ;)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I know my design is not professional, it is NOT meant to be so
> please
> >>>>>> dont
> >>>>>>> judge it on that. It is simply a "thought out of the box", and
> >>>>>> hopefully it
> >>>>>>> can trigger some ideas.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> You can see my "proposal" here:
> >>>>>>> http://people.apache.org/~jani/aoo.png
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I like the idea. No sure if it fits well on a page header,
> >>>>>> but definitely is a good idea for announcements, t-shirts and a lot
> of
> >>>>>> other situations where a big logo is needed.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>> Ricardo
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Have a nice christmas, whereever you are in the world.
> >>>>>>> Jan I.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On 21 December 2012 20:56, Michael Acevedo <ve...@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks for the links with logos Armin, I will examine them
> >>> shortly...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Have a good afternoon...
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 1:23 PM, Armin Le Grand <
> >>>>>> Armin.Le.Grand@me.com
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hi Michael,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> this (
> >>>>>> https://svn.apache.org/repos/**asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/**
> >>>>>>>>> content/images/AOO_logos/<
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>> <
> https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/ooo-site/trunk/content/images/AOO_logos/
> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Best,
> >> Michael
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > Best,
> > Michael
>
>
--
Best,
Michael