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Question about spell check
I downloaded and installed
Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.3_Win_x86_install_en-GB.exe. To my distress, when
I first started it, it accepted "color" (US spelling) and rejected
"colour" (English spelling).
I thought perhaps it picked up my previous use of en-US from my profile,
but I got the same effect installing on a new Windows 10 computer that
has never run any OpenOffice before.
It is using English, not American, spellings in the user interface, but
I would have expected documents to also default to the installation
language.
What language is supposed to be used, by default, for user documents?
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Re: Question about spell check
Posted by Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie>.
On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 13:17:49 -0700
Patricia Shanahan <pa...@acm.org> wrote:
>
>
> On 10/4/2016 1:15 PM, Marcus wrote:
> > Am 10/04/2016 09:44 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan:
> >> I downloaded and installed
> >> Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.3_Win_x86_install_en-GB.exe. To my distress, when
> >> I first started it, it accepted "color" (US spelling) and rejected
> >> "colour" (English spelling).
> >>
> >> I thought perhaps it picked up my previous use of en-US from my profile,
> >> but I got the same effect installing on a new Windows 10 computer that
> >> has never run any OpenOffice before.
> >>
> >> It is using English, not American, spellings in the user interface, but
> >> I would have expected documents to also default to the installation
> >> language.
> >>
> >> What language is supposed to be used, by default, for user documents?
> >
> > it's the language from the underlying system.
> >
> > The same values are set when it comes to other formattings. E.g., you
> > will see "US-Dollar" for the currency and not "British Pound".
> >
> > However, the UI interface is the language from the installation file.
> >
> > *IMHO* it's OK that not all settings are set to the language of the
> > installation file. However, for the default spell check it's
> > discuss-worthy.
>
> I'll check that it is not a regression. If it isn't, we can put it aside
> for now. It does seem strange that I need to do more to get en-GB
> spelling after installing an en-GB AOO.
>
On the occasion a User reports this happening we recommend deleting or renaming the OO user profile so it generates a fresh profile on next startup.
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Re: Question about spell check
Posted by Marcus <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 10/04/2016 10:17 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan:
>
>
> On 10/4/2016 1:15 PM, Marcus wrote:
>> Am 10/04/2016 09:44 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan:
>>> I downloaded and installed
>>> Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.3_Win_x86_install_en-GB.exe. To my distress, when
>>> I first started it, it accepted "color" (US spelling) and rejected
>>> "colour" (English spelling).
>>>
>>> I thought perhaps it picked up my previous use of en-US from my profile,
>>> but I got the same effect installing on a new Windows 10 computer that
>>> has never run any OpenOffice before.
>>>
>>> It is using English, not American, spellings in the user interface, but
>>> I would have expected documents to also default to the installation
>>> language.
>>>
>>> What language is supposed to be used, by default, for user documents?
>>
>> it's the language from the underlying system.
>>
>> The same values are set when it comes to other formattings. E.g., you
>> will see "US-Dollar" for the currency and not "British Pound".
>>
>> However, the UI interface is the language from the installation file.
>>
>> *IMHO* it's OK that not all settings are set to the language of the
>> installation file. However, for the default spell check it's
>> discuss-worthy.
>
> I'll check that it is not a regression. If it isn't, we can put it aside
> for now. It does seem strange that I need to do more to get en-GB
> spelling after installing an en-GB AOO.
for me it's not that strange as I see the main purpose of the respective
language in the install file for the UI (menus, help, etc.).
Just think of installing 2-3 langpacks. So, what should now be the
default language? Hm ...
However, as written the setting the spell check language is
discuss-worthy. I can think of this as a secondary purpose when choosing
a specific language for OpenOffice.
Marcus
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Re: Question about spell check
Posted by Patricia Shanahan <pa...@acm.org>.
On 10/4/2016 1:15 PM, Marcus wrote:
> Am 10/04/2016 09:44 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan:
>> I downloaded and installed
>> Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.3_Win_x86_install_en-GB.exe. To my distress, when
>> I first started it, it accepted "color" (US spelling) and rejected
>> "colour" (English spelling).
>>
>> I thought perhaps it picked up my previous use of en-US from my profile,
>> but I got the same effect installing on a new Windows 10 computer that
>> has never run any OpenOffice before.
>>
>> It is using English, not American, spellings in the user interface, but
>> I would have expected documents to also default to the installation
>> language.
>>
>> What language is supposed to be used, by default, for user documents?
>
> it's the language from the underlying system.
>
> The same values are set when it comes to other formattings. E.g., you
> will see "US-Dollar" for the currency and not "British Pound".
>
> However, the UI interface is the language from the installation file.
>
> *IMHO* it's OK that not all settings are set to the language of the
> installation file. However, for the default spell check it's
> discuss-worthy.
I'll check that it is not a regression. If it isn't, we can put it aside
for now. It does seem strange that I need to do more to get en-GB
spelling after installing an en-GB AOO.
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Re: Question about spell check
Posted by Marcus <ma...@wtnet.de>.
Am 10/04/2016 09:44 PM, schrieb Patricia Shanahan:
> I downloaded and installed
> Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.3_Win_x86_install_en-GB.exe. To my distress, when
> I first started it, it accepted "color" (US spelling) and rejected
> "colour" (English spelling).
>
> I thought perhaps it picked up my previous use of en-US from my profile,
> but I got the same effect installing on a new Windows 10 computer that
> has never run any OpenOffice before.
>
> It is using English, not American, spellings in the user interface, but
> I would have expected documents to also default to the installation
> language.
>
> What language is supposed to be used, by default, for user documents?
it's the language from the underlying system.
The same values are set when it comes to other formattings. E.g., you
will see "US-Dollar" for the currency and not "British Pound".
However, the UI interface is the language from the installation file.
*IMHO* it's OK that not all settings are set to the language of the
installation file. However, for the default spell check it's discuss-worthy.
Marcus
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Re: Question about spell check
Posted by Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie>.
On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 12:56:14 -0700
Patricia Shanahan <pa...@acm.org> wrote:
> On 10/4/2016 12:49 PM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> > On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 12:44:51 -0700
> > Patricia Shanahan <pa...@acm.org> wrote:
> >
> >> I downloaded and installed
> >> Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.3_Win_x86_install_en-GB.exe. To my distress, when
> >> I first started it, it accepted "color" (US spelling) and rejected
> >> "colour" (English spelling).
> >>
> >> I thought perhaps it picked up my previous use of en-US from my profile,
> >> but I got the same effect installing on a new Windows 10 computer that
> >> has never run any OpenOffice before.
> >>
> >> It is using English, not American, spellings in the user interface, but
> >> I would have expected documents to also default to the installation
> >> language.
> >>
> >> What language is supposed to be used, by default, for user documents?
> >>
> >
> > What language is shown centre of Status Bar for the paragraph in question?
> >
> > You may need to use /Tools /Languages /For all text to change the text language to English (UK)
> >
>
> I can indeed force correct spelling using Tools/Languages.
>
> My question is what language should be the default. I expected the
> installation language, but it seems to be doing something different.
>
Normally installation of a language version (my experience is with en-GB) on a clean installation (i.e., no previous OO installation) should install the correct English dictionary.
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Re: Question about spell check
Posted by Patricia Shanahan <pa...@acm.org>.
On 10/4/2016 12:49 PM, Rory O'Farrell wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 12:44:51 -0700
> Patricia Shanahan <pa...@acm.org> wrote:
>
>> I downloaded and installed
>> Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.3_Win_x86_install_en-GB.exe. To my distress, when
>> I first started it, it accepted "color" (US spelling) and rejected
>> "colour" (English spelling).
>>
>> I thought perhaps it picked up my previous use of en-US from my profile,
>> but I got the same effect installing on a new Windows 10 computer that
>> has never run any OpenOffice before.
>>
>> It is using English, not American, spellings in the user interface, but
>> I would have expected documents to also default to the installation
>> language.
>>
>> What language is supposed to be used, by default, for user documents?
>>
>
> What language is shown centre of Status Bar for the paragraph in question?
>
> You may need to use /Tools /Languages /For all text to change the text language to English (UK)
>
I can indeed force correct spelling using Tools/Languages.
My question is what language should be the default. I expected the
installation language, but it seems to be doing something different.
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Re: Question about spell check
Posted by Rory O'Farrell <of...@iol.ie>.
On Tue, 4 Oct 2016 12:44:51 -0700
Patricia Shanahan <pa...@acm.org> wrote:
> I downloaded and installed
> Apache_OpenOffice_4.1.3_Win_x86_install_en-GB.exe. To my distress, when
> I first started it, it accepted "color" (US spelling) and rejected
> "colour" (English spelling).
>
> I thought perhaps it picked up my previous use of en-US from my profile,
> but I got the same effect installing on a new Windows 10 computer that
> has never run any OpenOffice before.
>
> It is using English, not American, spellings in the user interface, but
> I would have expected documents to also default to the installation
> language.
>
> What language is supposed to be used, by default, for user documents?
>
What language is shown centre of Status Bar for the paragraph in question?
You may need to use /Tools /Languages /For all text to change the text language to English (UK)
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