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Posted to dev@openoffice.apache.org by Xin Li <lx...@gmail.com> on 2012/12/18 08:22:06 UTC

[UX] Design Exploration - Task Pane Content Panel User Interface Design

Hi all,

I have been exploring on Task Pane framework and content panel design.  I
have post the 9 proposals on AOO UX wiki.

See:
http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/AOO_UX_Design_Exploration_-_Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_User_Interface_Design_Proposals#Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_UX_Design_propoals

Capture any thoughts or feedback in the discussion section of the wiki
page. Thanks.

<http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/AOO_UX_Design_Exploration_-_Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_User_Interface_Design_Proposals#Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_UX_Design_propoals>
-- 
Best regards,
Xin Li   李欣
UX designer

Re: [UX] Design Exploration - Task Pane Content Panel User Interface Design

Posted by Ariel Constenla-Haile <ar...@apache.org>.
Hi Shenfeng Liu,

On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 01:22:46PM +0800, Shenfeng Liu wrote:
> > - about the chosen colours: they shouldn't be hard-coded, and system
> > settings should be used (where available)
> >
> 
> IMHO, it depends. system settings vary and can be customized which
> will make our application look ugly some time. So if we can define
> good scheme for ourselves (of course, not necessary to be hard-coded),
> I will say: "Why not?"

Because we should strive to better system integration. The Symphony
build (as offered here
http://people.apache.org/~zhangjf/symphony/build/) is a good example of
what not-to-do in very importante cases (comments below based on how the
UI is painted on my Linux system), important items are not painted
following the system's style settings:

- the popup window in the color-related toolbar controllers

- the rulers

- the whole sidebar

- the tabs in Calc

IMO AOO should strive at better system integration by using native
widget painting where possible, or system color settings at least.


Regards
-- 
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina

Re: [UX] Design Exploration - Task Pane Content Panel User Interface Design

Posted by Shenfeng Liu <li...@gmail.com>.
Ariel,
  My comments below:

2012/12/19 Ariel Constenla-Haile <ar...@apache.org>

> Hi,
>
> On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 03:22:06PM +0800, Xin Li wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have been exploring on Task Pane framework and content panel design.
> > I have post the 9 proposals on AOO UX wiki.
> >
> > See:
> >
> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/AOO_UX_Design_Exploration_-_Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_User_Interface_Design_Proposals#Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_UX_Design_propoals
> >
> > Capture any thoughts or feedback in the discussion section of the wiki
> > page. Thanks.
> >
> > <
> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/AOO_UX_Design_Exploration_-_Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_User_Interface_Design_Proposals#Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_UX_Design_propoals
> >
>
> It would be nice to have all the sidebar related pages under the same
> category.
>

You can start from :
http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/AOO_4.0_Dockable_Task_Pane_%28Task_Bar%29_Design_Exploration.
And in section 5.2, you can find the link to Xin's page above.
Or you can go to our planning wiki for find the entrance:
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.0+sidebar .


>
> Concerning the feature:
>
> - the jargon used in the different sidebar related pages is somehow hard
>   to understand, it would be nice to use the same terminology and have
>   a piRegardscture where this terminology is described
>

+1 for a terminology table. Perhaps in:
http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/AOO_4.0_Dockable_Task_Pane_%28Task_Bar%29_Design_Exploration?


>
> - about the chosen colours: they shouldn't be hard-coded, and system
>   settings should be used (where available)
>

IMHO, it depends. system settings vary and can be customized which will
make our application look ugly some time. So if we can define good scheme
for ourselves (of course, not necessary to be hard-coded), I will say: "Why
not?"


- Shenfeng (Simon)



>
>
> Regards
> --
> Ariel Constenla-Haile
> La Plata, Argentina
>

Re: [UX] Design Exploration - Task Pane Content Panel User Interface Design

Posted by Ariel Constenla-Haile <ar...@apache.org>.
Hi,

On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 03:22:06PM +0800, Xin Li wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
> I have been exploring on Task Pane framework and content panel design.
> I have post the 9 proposals on AOO UX wiki.
> 
> See:
> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/AOO_UX_Design_Exploration_-_Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_User_Interface_Design_Proposals#Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_UX_Design_propoals
> 
> Capture any thoughts or feedback in the discussion section of the wiki
> page. Thanks.
> 
> <http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/AOO_UX_Design_Exploration_-_Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_User_Interface_Design_Proposals#Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_UX_Design_propoals>

It would be nice to have all the sidebar related pages under the same
category.

Concerning the feature:

- the jargon used in the different sidebar related pages is somehow hard
  to understand, it would be nice to use the same terminology and have
  a piRegardscture where this terminology is described

- about the chosen colours: they shouldn't be hard-coded, and system
  settings should be used (where available)


Regards
-- 
Ariel Constenla-Haile
La Plata, Argentina

Re: [UX] Design Exploration - Task Pane Content Panel User Interface Design

Posted by Xin Li <lx...@gmail.com>.
Rob, thanks for post the design on Facebook.

Yes, I agree with you that it could be a good way to engage with our users.
I see there already have more than 10 responses. Wish will get more. :)

2012/12/20 Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>

> On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 2:22 AM, Xin Li <lx...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have been exploring on Task Pane framework and content panel design.  I
> > have post the 9 proposals on AOO UX wiki.
> >
>
> I put the question up on our Facebook page:
> https://www.facebook.com/ApacheOO/posts/395424523873910
>
> 5 responses in less than 30 minutes.  I think this could be a good way
> to engage with our users.
>
> -Rob
>
>
> > See:
> >
> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/AOO_UX_Design_Exploration_-_Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_User_Interface_Design_Proposals#Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_UX_Design_propoals
> >
> > Capture any thoughts or feedback in the discussion section of the wiki
> > page. Thanks.
> >
> > <
> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/AOO_UX_Design_Exploration_-_Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_User_Interface_Design_Proposals#Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_UX_Design_propoals
> >
> > --
> > Best regards,
> > Xin Li   李欣
> > UX designer
>



-- 
Best regards,
Xin Li   李欣
UX designer

Re: [UX] Design Exploration - Task Pane Content Panel User Interface Design

Posted by Rob Weir <ro...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 2:22 AM, Xin Li <lx...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I have been exploring on Task Pane framework and content panel design.  I
> have post the 9 proposals on AOO UX wiki.
>

I put the question up on our Facebook page:
https://www.facebook.com/ApacheOO/posts/395424523873910

5 responses in less than 30 minutes.  I think this could be a good way
to engage with our users.

-Rob


> See:
> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/AOO_UX_Design_Exploration_-_Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_User_Interface_Design_Proposals#Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_UX_Design_propoals
>
> Capture any thoughts or feedback in the discussion section of the wiki
> page. Thanks.
>
> <http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/AOO_UX_Design_Exploration_-_Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_User_Interface_Design_Proposals#Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_UX_Design_propoals>
> --
> Best regards,
> Xin Li   李欣
> UX designer

Re: [UX] Design Exploration - Task Pane Content Panel User Interface Design

Posted by Xin Li <lx...@gmail.com>.
Hi Joost,

Thanks for sharing your thought. Looking forward more to give your feedback
and share your thoughts. Thanks!:)

2012/12/18 Joost Andrae <Jo...@gmx.de>

> Hi,
>
> I prefer version 3C. Such a task pane should work like the task pane
> control in Impress.
>
> Am 18.12.2012 08:22, schrieb Xin Li:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I have been exploring on Task Pane framework and content panel design.  I
> > have post the 9 proposals on AOO UX wiki.
> >
> > See:
> >
> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/AOO_UX_Design_Exploration_-_Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_User_Interface_Design_Proposals#Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_UX_Design_propoals
> >
> > Capture any thoughts or feedback in the discussion section of the wiki
> > page. Thanks.
> >
> > <
> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/AOO_UX_Design_Exploration_-_Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_User_Interface_Design_Proposals#Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_UX_Design_propoals
> >
> >
>
> Kind regards, Joost
>
>


-- 
Best regards,
Xin Li   李欣
UX designer

Re: [UX] Design Exploration - Task Pane Content Panel User Interface Design

Posted by Joost Andrae <Jo...@gmx.de>.
Hi,

I prefer version 3C. Such a task pane should work like the task pane
control in Impress.

Am 18.12.2012 08:22, schrieb Xin Li:
> Hi all,
> 
> I have been exploring on Task Pane framework and content panel design.  I
> have post the 9 proposals on AOO UX wiki.
> 
> See:
> http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/AOO_UX_Design_Exploration_-_Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_User_Interface_Design_Proposals#Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_UX_Design_propoals
> 
> Capture any thoughts or feedback in the discussion section of the wiki
> page. Thanks.
> 
> <http://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/AOO_UX_Design_Exploration_-_Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_User_Interface_Design_Proposals#Task_Pane_Content_Panel_-_UX_Design_propoals>
> 

Kind regards, Joost