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Posted to users@spamassassin.apache.org by Evan Platt <ev...@espphotography.com> on 2006/11/21 21:33:36 UTC

Them spammers are getting smarter..

So used to be mail from Richard Smith, subject "Me again Richard". 
Now they're using the last name, ie "Me again Smith"

I'm almost at the point of rejecting anything with the subject Me again..."

Off topic:

In postfix in header_checks, can I specity something at the START? ie if I say
/Me again/		Reject

I only want to reject
"Me again Smith" but not "Hey, it's Me again..."

Thanks. :)

Evan



Re: Them spammers are getting smarter..

Posted by Kelson <ke...@speed.net>.
Theo Van Dinter wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 21, 2006 at 12:33:36PM -0800, Evan Platt wrote:
>> So used to be mail from Richard Smith, subject "Me again Richard". 
>> Now they're using the last name, ie "Me again Smith"
> 
> FWIW, this is why it's pointless to try keeping up with those things.
> There's an infinite number of ways they can change around the
> subject/from/etc that there's no point in trying to keep up.

Yep.  Given how easy it would be for them to do more random subjects, 
I'm of the opinion that these are being offered up as decoys.  Dangle an 
obvious sign in front of the spamfighters, wait for us to grab it, then 
snatch it away at the last minute.

It's just a way of tweaking us and keeping us busy.

Meanwhile, Bayes + SARE Stocks + header checks are catching these 
easily, regardless of the subject.  Admittedly I've bumped BAYES_99 up 
to 4.7 points.

(On a side note, I have to laugh at the phrase, "Make it huge with 
nanotechnology."  Part of it is the huge/nano contrast, but "make it 
huge" sounds more typical of another category of spam entirely...)

-- 
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Re: Them spammers are getting smarter..

Posted by Ruggero Ferretti - BitDesign Snc <ru...@bitdesign.it>.
Anyhow, you can use:

/^Me again/

it looks for "Me again" at the beginning of the expression; it detects 
"Me again", but also "Me again Richard", etc.

Theo Van Dinter wrote:
> On Tue, Nov 21, 2006 at 12:33:36PM -0800, Evan Platt wrote:
>> So used to be mail from Richard Smith, subject "Me again Richard". 
>> Now they're using the last name, ie "Me again Smith"
> 
> FWIW, this is why it's pointless to try keeping up with those things.
> There's an infinite number of ways they can change around the
> subject/from/etc that there's no point in trying to keep up.
> 

Re: Them spammers are getting smarter..

Posted by Theo Van Dinter <fe...@apache.org>.
On Tue, Nov 21, 2006 at 12:33:36PM -0800, Evan Platt wrote:
> So used to be mail from Richard Smith, subject "Me again Richard". 
> Now they're using the last name, ie "Me again Smith"

FWIW, this is why it's pointless to try keeping up with those things.
There's an infinite number of ways they can change around the
subject/from/etc that there's no point in trying to keep up.

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Re: Them spammers are getting smarter..

Posted by Tony Finch <do...@dotat.at>.
On Tue, 21 Nov 2006, Evan Platt wrote:

> So used to be mail from Richard Smith, subject "Me again Richard". Now
> they're using the last name, ie "Me again Smith"

Their fake Received: line is still the same.

Tony.
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Re: Them spammers are getting smarter..

Posted by Karl Auer <ka...@biplane.com.au>.
On Tue, 2006-11-21 at 12:33 -0800, Evan Platt wrote:
> In postfix in header_checks, can I specity something at the START? ie if I say
> /Me again/		Reject
> 
> I only want to reject
> "Me again Smith" but not "Hey, it's Me again..."

Put a caret at the start of the pattern: "/^Me again/". To anchor at the
end of the line, put a dollar sign at the end of the pattern: "/Me again
$/".

Regards, K.

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